#karedevil

[castlesprincess]

#izy.oc #the defenders #the punisher #frank castle #karedevil #karen page #matt murdock #foggy nelson #daredevil #vanessa fisk #jessica jones #fratt #nmcu #mcu #marvel

[lesbiandardevil]

decided to pile up some super old bangers in one post just so i can have more art here (do click on them for quality because eh m...)

#first two were supposed to be a series of drawings but i forgot #first ones song is wolves without teeth by of mice and men #and second ones a poem we dont talk about it cause it's in italian #so theres no reason to cause nobody gets it but me (the target audience) #anyway ! #daredevil stuff #daredevil #daredevil comics #matt murdock #elektra #elektra natchios #mattelektra #karen page #mattkaren #karedevil #my art

[corkwooood]

You're a hero. Welcome home.

DAREDEVIL

#daredevil #daredeviledit #karedevil #karedeviledit #mcuedit #karen page #matt murdock

[hiddenvioletsgrow]

anyhow here’s more of these

#daredevil #daredevil text posts #daredevil text post #matt murdock #foggy nelson #karen page #elektra natchios #bullseye #benjamin poindexter #karedevil #marvel netflix

[saintluil]

ring ring

#matt murdock #karen page #daredevil #daredevil comics #daredevil fanart #karedevil #they got engaged btw #nothing bad ever happened i swear

[dovelywind]

ꕥ| Matt Murdock ft. Jen Walters, Elektra Natchios, & Karen Page

#te he he #ceo of flirting #matt murdock #marvel #mcu #daredevil #jen walters #elektra natchios #karen page #mattjen #mattelektra #karedevil #mcu daredevil #nmcu daredevil #daredevil season 2 #she hulk #matt x jen #matt x elektra #matt x karen #mcu fanart #womenofmcu #marvel fanart #i colored it!!! #my art lol #dovelywind #dovely draws #artists on tumblr

[mattfroggy]

Bruce Springsteen, Racing in the Street & Daredevil s03e08 Upstairs/Downstairs, s03e09 Revelations, s03e01 Resurrection, s03e11 Reunion, s03e03 No Good Deed

#mine #maggie #matt #karen #mattkaren #jackmaggie #matt murdock #maggie murdock #karen page #jack murdock #daredevil #karedevil #bruce springsteen #daredeviledit #tagging the shit outta this cause it took hours

[daredoodles]

thank you @lesbiandardevil for all your amazing karedevil art that has inspired this

sketch below!

#matt murdock #karen page #karedevil #daredevil fanart #daredevil comics #eliott draws things

[charliethomascoxuniverse]

Omg, I was just browsing through Paul Anthony Jones's "The Cabinet of Linguistic Curiosities", and did you all know flirting is technically ILLEGAL in New York??? 👀👀👀 (*** See below)

The real question is whether Mr Summa Cum Laude, officer of the law, Matt Murdock, is in fact well aware of that and has just been insouciantly going around committing more acts of criminality than just vigilantism all this time. 😂

I'm sorry, but you can't look at this shameless hussy and tell me he doesn't know exactly what he's doing! 🥴

He's relentless! You just can't take him anywhere! 😅💗

Not to mention Mr Sounds-Like-We're-Getting-Married/You're-Not-Gonna-Kiss-Me/Cross-My-Heart over here.🥰💕

And where to start with these two? I can't even. 😏🔥

Okay, he wasn't in New York here, so we'll give him a pass this time...

In summary, the gentleman is a tramp. 🤭

I love him, Your Honour. 💋

Don't let the innocent act fool you, ladies and gentlemen of the jury -- that is the handsome face of a shameless flirt!! ☝️☝️☝️

*throws panties the book at him*

(***)

So he's really only innocent of fault in the case of Claire, because they weren't in public, but he's guilty as sin in all the other cases. 🤣

(Sorry, but I have a nerd's sense of humour, therefore this is very funny to me, if not necessarily anyone else. *shrug* 😅)

#when my miscellaneous reading and Daredevil intersect 😂😂😂 #matt murdock #charlie cox #daredevil #claire temple #karen page #foggy nelson #elektra natchios #jennifer walters #matt x claire #karedevil #matt x foggy #mattelektra #mattifer #shedevil #rosario dawson #deborah ann woll #elden henson #elodie yung #tatiana maslany #she hulk: attorney at law #my random ramblings #long post

[breckstonevailskier]

Yeah that doesn't exactly sound compelling.

Karen and Foggy are the two most important people in Matt's life in Daredevil. They're more important to him than Stick, Claire, Father Lantom, Elektra, etc. Kiling them off just for the sake of a new status quo reeks of some of the issues Secret Invasion had.

#matt murdock #karen page #foggy nelson #karedevil #daredevil #daredevil: born again #mcu critical

[ceterisparibus116]

Hey. Why do you think Karen Page is a character people seem to hate so much? I’m fairly new to the fandom and I’ve seen people even badmouthing the actress as well, which is awful. I am curious to know what you think about it.

Welcome to the fandom! 💖 I'm so excited for you and I'm super happy that, despite being newish, you're interacting like this. (It took me an embarrassing amount of time to be brave enough to send asks to people lol.)

Also, this is such an interesting question.

I want to address the attacks against Deborah Ann Woll first. No matter how anyone feels about a character, it's absolutely despicable to attack the actor over it. Most of the attacks I've seen have been about her looks, or about her acting abilities. It's fine to critique acting abilities, but looks should be off the table. But even the critiques of her acting abilities aren't actually critiques - they're just, like you said, badmouthing, with little to no analysis. To me, that indicates that they're hating on the actress just because they're emotional (angry or annoyed) over the character.

So why do people get so emotional over Karen?

I think the easiest explanation is: ship wars. Some people struggle to enjoy their favorite ship without tearing down competitor ships. And since Karedevil is one of the few ships that was actually canon (albeit temporarily, but S3 ended with them being pretty flirty again), Karen becomes a huge target.

Another explanation is that Karen appears to be written inconsistently. Personally, I don't think she actually is (except perhaps in The Punisher; I'm not sure because I've only seen S1 of The Punisher). The argument goes: "She loves Daredevil until she finds out Daredevil is Matt, and then she treats it like an addiction, despite being supportive of Frank."

The counter-argument, to me, is clear: she still loves Daredevil, but she hates being lied to and put on a pedestal. Matt did both of those things. Frank (for the most part) did neither of those things. Her issue is with Matt, not Daredevil (which she makes explicitly clear in S3E1, but people still apparently confused on this point). With that in mind, I think she's written consistently in an incredibly nuanced way.

Another explanation is that Karen is a character who doesn't learn from her mistakes. She's rash and reckless and she lies just as much as Matt, and more often than not, people end up dead because of it. Ben is the most obvious and chilling example. Yet even after her actions get Ben killed, and she expresses serious guilt and remorse, she continues to do the same thing. That makes people wonder: is she stupid? Or, worse: was her guilt and remorse only an expression of her personal grief, and not actually the result of evaluating her actions affected Ben?

This, to me, is the most fair critique of Karen, and I sympathize with people who dislike her because of it. I will point out, however, that Matt and Foggy also repeat the same mistakes. It's obvious with Matt; it's talked about less often with Foggy, but I roll my eyes every time he acts like Matt and Karen are being reckless for wanting to operate outside the law - despite the fact that every time they limit their plans to operating inside the law, people end up dead. This makes me wonder: is Foggy stupid? Or does he simply care more about keeping Matt and Karen alive (and out of jail) than he cares about other people dying?

The actual explanation, I think, is that Daredevil is a show about very flawed and surprisingly realistic characters. People rarely shake off old habits and bad ways of thinking quickly. No matter how many times you tell a person that their friends are there for them, they (like Matt) may continue to push people away if that's their coping mechanism. No matter how many times you tell a person to ask for help before doing something alone, they (like Karen) may continue to go rogue if that gives them some feeling of control over their lives. No matter how many times you tell a person that the systems they want to trust are broken, they (like Foggy) may continue insisting that everyone should trust the system if they continue seeing the world through a lens of privilege.

Can it be frustrating to watch? Absolutely. Is it a good reason to hate a character? I'd say no, but I guess that's more subjective. Is it a reminder to all of us to be gentle and patient both with ourselves and with other people when we find ourselves making the same mistakes over and over? I hope so!

I've said before that I sometimes feel self-conscious over the fact that, in my longer stories, a character's growth is rarely linear. It's usually what I think of as a spiral. They make a mistake, they learn from it...and then the stakes rise, and so they fall back on that old mistake again, since it's comfortable and familiar, rather than trying a new approach. Or the character tries to blend the old mistake with the new approach, to varying degrees of success. Sometimes I worry that this feels repetitive, or like the character isn't learning.

But from the comments I've received, people seem to appreciate it more often than not. They resonate with it and relate to it.

So now that I think of it...maybe the root problem is simply that Daredevil doesn't have author's notes telling us why Karen (and Foggy and Matt) are making the same mistake again. 😅

Or maybe people are more compassionate towards characters in fanfiction than on TV? Or maybe people are more compassionate towards the main character than the side character? Or maybe it's misogyny? Or maybe people are just less compassionate towards Karen in particular because she threatens their favorite ship.

Aaaaand this post has come full circle.

#karen page #matt murdock #foggy nelson #daredevil #karedevil #meta #asks #ask me things i'm friendly

[koytix]

I am not immune to MattKaren

#koyart #daredevil #matt murdock #karen page #mattkaren #yes this is based on their Netflix designs I’m sorry comic truthers #karedevil

[lesbiandardevil]

60s mattkaren always in my mind ..

so there's these pictures of young robert redford and jane fonda ... (↓)

mattkaren To Me!!! can't believe they didn't make a movie with them back then .. anyway silly meme becauseeee yeah .. (it can go both ways btw)

#its literally them idk idk whatever #i love them sm they make me sickkkk #love is real !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #i fall and pictures of them scatter all over the floor #drawing more as we speak .. theres so many pictures thats just #them . . radiating mattkaren #scribbles #my art #daredevil stuff #daredevil #matt murdock #karen page #mattkaren #karedevil #matt x karen #daredevil comics #daredevil fanart

[corkwooood]

So if I stop now, I get to keep this one perfect night and also have a chance of keeping it going tomorrow. And the day after. And the day after that.

#daredevil #daredeviledit #mcuedit #charlie cox #deborah ann woll #karedevil #karedeviledit #i just miss them

[superfandomcorp]

Karen ❤️

#marvel #marvel studios #daredevil tv series #daredevil netflix #deborah ann woll/ karen page #deborah ann woll #karen page #karen p #karen page x matt murdock #karedevil

[helen-draws]

One of my favourite moments.

#art #fanart #marvel #mcu #digital art #daredevil #karedevil #matt murdock #karen page #matt x karen #charlie cox #deborah ann woll