Question,
It's not gay, right—
To close your eyes and
think of your best friend while referring them as your most important person Taisetsunahito
that you've sacrifice your form for just to bring them back and
also feeling jealous that you might get replaced and they'll be better off without you
but then both of your resolutions is for you both to stay in the darkness and you'll be okay because you got each other and
then it's also not gay right,
that you become your best friend's dream eater just to save him and
even when you sacrifice yourself just to save your best friend and
you begin having dreams of where your missing best friend is
But it's not gay, rightttt?
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Thinking about
“Roxas, was it? You’re pretty good!”
“Heh, well, you ain’t so bad yourself.”
Like, I know it’s literally the only piece of dialogue between Roxas and Ventus in the entirety of Kingdom Hearts
But what makes it special to me is that Roxas doesn’t have any negative feelings towards Ventus, at least not after hearing that complement
You’d think after the events of KH2, he’d feel the need to establish his identity when facing someone who looks exactly like him. But no one treats him any different, no one confuses the two for each other, and better yet the new guy is so freakin pure of heart that he initiates their friendship with a complement
I like that. I hope Roxas and Ventus remain good friends in future games
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KH Japanese Translations Part 6
Part 5
Series where I discuss fantranslations and this time it's on Vanitas
Ever since seeing Vanitas backstory in the novels I became more interested in him, I already loved him as a character but the novels really increased that. So I'm going to look at some of the fantranslated kh3 scenes
Everyone knows how the translations can be off, now translations aren't perfect in general but its kinda odd when there are entirely new meanings or censored in the localization.
I'm glad I looked up translations for his death because it's so much more. It's more about freedom to choose and it's not even about darkness that much.
Sora: That face is—
Vanitas: I am Ventus' missing piece. You made up for the missing part of Ventus' heart. That's why my appearance came from you. I am made from you both, Ventus and Sora. We're brothers who make up for what the other lacks.
Sora: If you think that, why are you fighting us? We should be working together
Vanitas: It's my reason for being born. It is because I am darkness, that you both belong to the light, able to exist there. If that isn't 'working together' I don't know what is.
Sora: But I never—
Ventus: But I never asked for that.
Ventus: There's no need to divide which one is the light and which one is the darkness. I am me and you are you, just live freely the way we want.
Vanitas: Freedom? Ah, I am living freely... like this.
Ventus: Is living trapped in darkness freedom to you?
Vanitas: That's the way I chose to live
Ventus: I see
Sora: Is that really okay? Vanitas!
And it's just great, it's bittersweet. I like it a lot more. It shows that Vanitas decides to be trapped with darkness and is working with them so they could live and exist in the light. And it makes me wonder if he wasn't, would Sora and Ventus be unable to exist or live in the light. That's just something. All three of them affect the others. And these FT explains the appearance better and how they relate to the other.
I spent time looking at fan translations through various websites, people's comments, old posts, YouTube videos comments— and especially content relating to SR because those are the people who tend to care more.
Eng:
Sora: Your face!
Vanitas: I am the piece of Ventus that was taken away. And you're the piece Ventus needed to be whole again. So why shouldn't you and I look exactly the same? You define me Sora, the same way Ventus does. We are brothers who together, make a greater whole.
Sora: Then why don't you stand by our side instead with darkness?
Vanitas: Because I am darkness. And I do stand by your side. I'm the shadow that you cast. How much closer could I be?
Sora: But I didn't —
Ventus: But I didn't ask for this. To be sifted apart nice and neat. We should be free to choose. Not just light, not just darkness. We decide what we are.
Vanitas: But Ventus, I did decide who I am. You see?
Ventus: And what you are is darkness ?
Vanitas: What I am is darkness
Ventus: Okay
Sora: How is that okay? Vanitas?
And there's differences and it's honestly moreso the whole concept about freedom to choose is left out. The official translation focuses on darkness and him being darkness because that's what he is when it's honestly not just that. I feel like he's more than just darkness but that's my take. The JPN also explains how Vanitas appearance is better and the separation between Ven and Vanitas as well was stated better as well.
And I bring it up because I once was talking about how I thought the ships were odd because he calls them his brothers and someone mentioned that it was just an English translation thing, people can ship whatever they want I'm not here to stop that but does that mean the person say something incorrect?
Now I'm going through the monster's inc where Vanitas realizes where Ven is and he says this line.
JPN:
Vanitas: Ventus! So you were hiding in such a place all along, remnant of my heart.
ENG:
Vanitas: Ventus. What a strange place to slither off to... you insignificant speck
Now I want to point out how the phrasing in such a place is said as an insult. It is stated that somewhere like that is worthless as if Sora is worthless. Then he insults him by saying you are little of his heart. Like he isn't worth much. The changes here make sense and it kinda flows better. Like insignificant speck is an insult that clearly from the way the original statement was said.
Final Words:
As much as it would be interesting to have Roxas also there, it wouldn't really fit. The only relation he has to Vanitas is through Sora by looking the same as Ventus. Roxas is a great character but for that scene in particular it made sense that he wasn't present. Now it be cool if we got a reaction to seeing him in another scene.
Sora is the one that helped both Ven and Vanitas. He saved both of their hearts. Vanitas gained his form and appearance by Sora ability to connect with them. Sora saved Ven's heart from being destroyed and Vanitas—a being that was with Ven so long merged with his heart that when he was taken out it affected Ven. This is stated in re: mind, speaking of remind someone said something that I honestly think is interesting:
Post Notes:
I once heard that Vanitas referring to them as brothers was only a localization thing so I wanted to look into that, but I couldn't find anything through all the sources I used. I even listen to jpn audio and he still says kyōdai which means brother. Not sure why someone once said that
And I bring it up because It was about how I thought the ships were odd because he calls them his brothers and someone mentioned that it was just an English translation thing, and they aren't like that in the JPN version people can ship whatever they want I'm not here to stop that but it seems like they still do so why did that person say it?
Unless they're referring the the remind scene when Ven is like we're not brothers we're the same but Vanitas tells him you're naïve for believing that I've been with you for a long time and is another being entirely. But that's all the English version and I didn't really look at any translations for that scene... If anyone does know more about that scene....
Also Vanitas is my second favorite character now 😌
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