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#kind of because it also makes me feel weird like yeah it wasn't mutual but there's something about
blushweddinggowns · 7 months
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if it hasn’t been asked yet, prompt 18 has incredible steddie potential. no pressure tho! love your work, hope your brain feels better<3
Aww ty and it is feeling a lil better 💗 And here's some pre-steddie for ya! I might do a part two of this because the vibes leave room for some uh, not sfw material. She has some energy.
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Steve liked to complain about driving the kids around, but in all honesty? He loved it. He loved how lively they all were, he loved the silly arguments they would have, he liked just being around them, especially Dustin.
But holy shit did he hate picking him up from Hellfire. Because for some fucking reason, Dustin was never just waiting outside. He was always waiting outside with Eddie Munson, his brand new hero.
Steve had no idea what Dustin saw in the guy. He was such a dick, even when they barely talked for five minutes a week Eddie never missed the chance to be a snarky little bitch.
Which is why he wasn't too excited to see Eddie smoking alone outside of their club room, no Dustin in sight. Steve frowned as he got out of his car, looking around like Dustin might magically appear.
It wasn't helping that Eddie was staring right at him, an amused smile on his face, "You looking for something?"
Steve rolled his eyes at the question, "Just tell me where Dustin is."
"Inside," Eddie said as he took a drag, still staring at Steve. It always made Steve feel weird, the way Eddie would look at him. HIs eyes were too big or something, too intense. It always made him squirm, "On the phone, talking to his girlfriend. It's kind of gross actually, how mushy they are. He managed to scare everyone off but me."
That sounded about right. But that also meant that now Steve was stuck with standing next to this guy. And he really wasn't in the mood for awkward small talk.
"I'll wait in the car then," Steve said dismissively, stopping when he heard Eddie snort behind him.
"Too much of a princess to stand around with the undesirables huh?"
Steve spun around, his face hot at the weird insult, "What the hell is that supposed to mean?"
Eddie shrugged, dropping his cigarette to the ground, "It means I think you're an uppity bitch. Tell me Steve, is hating me your only personality trait? Or do you get off on acting like a pissy kitten? That pretty face can only take you so far you know. "
This, this right here is what he hated the most about Eddie Munson. He was a dick yes, but he was so specific about it. Always calling Steve stupid shit like princess, kitten, bitch and now pretty. It was weird, emasculating, and...confusing. Very confusing on why the first thing it always did was make him blush. He didn't make Steve mad in the right way. He made him feel off kilter and anxious, his heart almost always going into overdrive whenever he had to talk to the guy.
But that didn't mean he was going to take all of that laying down, "Says you? I'm surprised you don't have a I hate Jocks tattoo on your forehead. For an 'undesirable' you sure are judgmental as fuck."
Eddie laughed at that, like Steve was an old friend who made a hilarious joke, instead of someone who was actively trying to get under his skin, "Do you still count as a jock? Because if you do I might have to re-evaluate that. I never said I hated you, princess."
Oh great. So that was just a nickname now. Steve opened his mouth to snap back at him, to ask why he was such an ass if their wasn't mutual hatred between them.
But then Dustin was popping out of the club room, a big smile on his face as he waved at Steve, "Sorry I'm late! Suzie called and she heard about this new theory she had to tell me about and-"
"And you can tell me in the car," Steve interrupted, avoiding Eddie's eyes as he dragged Dustin away. The asshole smirked at him as they drove away, like he could just tell how much he was driving Steve crazy.
Yeah, Steve would never understand what Dustin saw in that guy.
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pryllee · 1 month
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Delirious
Blade x Fem! Reader
Blades kinda ooc, slight mention/use of ’red string’ theory, feelings became mutual, slight use of daydreaming/delusions, stellaron hunters, kinda took inspo from smt. Reader was set up lowkey. Reader taking the initiative for a kiss??? , also not proofread
A/N: Kinda hate this with the weird often transitions and overuse of some words, I don't have that big of a vocabulary though so...
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Working under a slave of destiny was... interesting? Kind of. The thought of warping to every planet every week or so really wasn't for you.
However, the one colleague that always caught your eye was Blade. You couldn't help but be drawn to him for some reason—like you were attached to him, his blank expression was indeed odd but it lowkey is hot.
And you also couldn't help but imagine that thin line on his face slightly tilting upwards into a small smile if he ever felt the same about you.
You always saw him somewhere or had an encounter with him almost everyday, till one had a girl in it, oh Aeons. Recounting the memory is already such a pain.
During one of the missions you'd been assigned to with him, a pair of girls talking saw him in one of his... ’disguises’ yet one whispered to the other making the other laugh hitting at the girls back, as they looked back with a look of admiration, you shot them a death stare back.
"What?" He asked. And you shook your head in response with a visible annoyed frown on your face.
"How come you're acting like a child again? I won't know what to say if you don't speak." Bit unusual he seemed to talk more this time to engage in a convo.
He clearly still remembered that time where you didn't talk to him for days on end because his replies were so unbelievably dry like you didn't matter—well technically you didn't...or don't really matter to him... And that does hurt a bit.
"Nothing. Those girls prob' would've reported us if they found out." Making up an excuse on the spot, a dumb one infact.
Yet somehow, you ended up in this position where Silver Wolf was ordering French fries, nuggets, and a large bucket of mayo.
"... Do you really need that much mayo?"
"Yeah, what about it?" She asked, clicking her tongue. "Nothing..." You irked up a brow seemingly disgusted at the taste of so much mayonnaise on one nugget, or fry.
"I'll get an iced coffee," Kafka smiled.
You glanced at Blade, still with a monotone face as usual. "...What about you?" You said in a quizzical tone, leading him to shake his head slightly in response like a statue... A perfect scuplture in fa— I mean...
You sat opposite of Kafka, and Silver Wolf. Still seemingly irked at the bucket of Mayo as she dips a nugget double fry combo in it... well more like drowning it.
You glanced over your shoulder, looking at Blade who still just stood as still as a statue.
"What?" He scowled, avoiding your gaze to look out the rain filled window. "Why come if you won't even have anything...?" You said, popping a single fry into your mouth.
"Because–" He paused. "Because what?" Again having him shake his head slightly in response. The sudden change of behavior was peculiar to you, was this really the same ”Blade” you knew... ? Feels like the real ones probably locked up away somewhere else.
"Calm down, hes real." Kafka waved at you knowingly,
"Kafkas right–" Silver Wolf mumbled, still eating with a bulge showing through her cheeks "Whenever you look at Blade, your thoughts become kinda obvious."
Her words made you flush a slight red, as you swiftly grabbed alot of fries and nuggets drowning them in Mayo shoving it in her mouth making her choke a little,
"Ugh— Do you want me dead?!" She complained, holding on her slightly sore throat, while Kafka decided to observe for a little longer sipping on her coffee.
"No, just bothered me how little you take a time but drown it in SO much mayo." You replied, making Kafka chuckle a little.
"I do NOT drown my food in sauce! It's a perfectly fine amount!" She slammed her hands on the table, making the food fling up shortly as you slammed on the table back in response.
"Oh reeeaaally? How come?" You spoke through clenched teeth, "Listen to me, calm down you two." Kafka waved her hand, as you both sunk back into your seats.
"That bad, hm?" Blade asked in a dull tone.
"Shut up before I forcefully shove fries and a nugget down your throat too." You threatnened, as he shot a look of; ’Try me.’ making you furrow your brows in annoyance pouting slightly in sarcasm as you looked away.
Suddenly someone gripped onto your chin, making you turn to them as they forced a nugget into your mouth. "Too bad, I did it first." He spoke, yet this time it was in a different tone—a smug one that pissed you off. You felt like tearing his vocal cords off but you're actually somewhat surprised he ’fed’ you something.
"Ooh...~" Silver Wolf teased with the ’also smug smile’. "Shut." You bit your lip in embarrassment, as you fiddled with your fingers. You wondered what his lips would taste like—hoping for an occasion for you both to be alone as... Ahem.
Your train of thought is interrupted as someone busts the door open making you jerk upwards a little at the sound, screaming for the ’intergalatic criminals’ or whatever to come out.
"Uugggghhgghg..." Silver Wolf groaned, "We barely even ate any, can't I just bring this with me?"
"Just store it in your technique menu console thing, can't you do that?" You asked, as she shook her head a doubtful ’no’.
"Dunno, don't think so. I'll eat this basket of fries on the go." She said as she dumped the whole bucket of Mayo making you irk up a brow once again.
"You four, hands up!" The officer demanded, but Blade almost instantly just threw his sword into the poor guys chest hurrying you to get out of the booth so he could take it back.
You felt a small lump in your throat as he pulled out the sword, blood pooling out from under the officer.
"Don't feel bad now," Kafka whispered into your ear, softly saying your name. As Silver Wolf opened up a path to somewhere else. "C'mon, hurry."
You took one last glance at the people in the place, seeing their bewildered faces were kind of laughable.
But why exactly does Silver Wolf need to worry about the food if she can just open a path up...?
You sat down on the grassy field, staring into the sky seemingly in a daze with the scenic location.
"Where are we?" You asked Silver Wolf.
"Dunno, just chose a random spot that looked nice so I could eat my food 'n peace. Kinda sucks though since it's making my fries cold and soggy."
"You shouldn't have poured the whole bucket of Mayo on it..." You criticized, making her scoff in response. You just sat there, admiring the sunset with how wide this field of grass was. It felt soft to the touch, so peaceful. If you were apart of the Garden of Recollection you would probably engrave this into your mind forever as you sat on a small hill.
You felt someone obviously staring at you, causing you to glance over at the source as you just make eye contact with Blade before he turns around, walking away to Aeons know where.
"Where are you going, Bladie?" Kafka asks, turning around making him pause for a bit. "Somewhere. Oddly familiar with this place."
You actually somewhat could relate. This place felt nostalgic with a sliver of mechanoly hidden in it. It feels like you've been here before.
"Enjoying the place I picked out?" The silver haired asked, as you just reluctantly nod even though you clearly knew it was meant to lowkey mock you...
"I'm gonna go find a spot to try play the Violin." Kafka hummed, walking away to somewhere nearby where she'd still be in sight but as a small figure.
The abrupt change from a weird restaraunt with a mix of a cafe due to the iced coffee to such a calming nostalgic place was odd, but you see weirder things everytime on a mission, so who are you to complain?
Hearing the soft yet elegant demeanor thrumming of a violin made the atmosphere all more peaceful. It perplexes you though, how come it's so... Quiet and nice here? This is like a ’once in a life time chance’.
The bodies of water drew you in though, causing you to go closer when you hear a muffled yell from behind,
"Don't go near the water!" It sounded like Silver Wolf, but her voice rang in your ears sharply, and you touch the clear water with the colors of a pretty sunset. It looked like one of those art pieces a true master would make back in the old days really—
As you come back to your senses when you hear loud rhythms of thuds behind you—presumably footsteps, the body of water drags you in shocking you.
"What the fuck?—" You spoke, yet it echoed out loud and clear. You were stuck in some weird place under the water, but somehow could breathe freely.
Being in such a narrow place wasn't your cup of tea though, the thought of being stuck here in such a small place made your eyes narrow speeding up your beating hearts pace. Suddenly, your surroundings change to a cave, with Blade inspecting some weird murals on the walls.
"...Uhm. Blade?" You asked, cocking your head to the side perplexed. Blade seemingly immersed in observing the mural, you suddenly realize it felt like he was stuck in place—yet his head slightly turned around to glance at you when the water spat you out abruptly.
You coughed up some water aggressively still confused as fuck, "What just happened? Why was Blade looking at a dang wall?" You shake your head, trying to dry off thinking it'll work with you even though it's mainly for dogs...
"... Uhh, you saw Blade?" Silver Wolf asked in a concerned tone as she whispered something to Kafka. Your confusion only got worse when Kafkas expression was slightly changed to show a slight sliver of surprise.
"Oh my!" The lady laughed in a teasing manner, "I never thought you really knew Blade that way."
Processing what she said for a second, your cheeks suddenly dusted a low tint of red as you try to play dumb thinking what you think it might be, "What? Knew what about Blade?"
While Blade noticed your figure, seemingly stuck in a box floating with your hair drifting upwards as you held your palms out but seemed to be restricted.
He was slightly confused seeing your wide eyed expression, as he was about to call your name out in a quizzical tone, you disappeared.
As worried as he was, he tried to find his way back to where you all warped to.
"What happened?" He asks, having Silver Wolf say nothing happened, yet as he recounts the previous memory both of the girls eyes widen with a ’knowing’ look.
"Oh, I see...! I think we should, uhm, go back now to the base!" Silver Wolf spoke in an awkward tone, making both of you confused, well you can't see if Blade really was confused or not... It's like he has no face muscles to smile. You just nod in response running your fingers through your wet hair.
A few days had passed again, after that... Water incident. From time to time Kafka and Silver Wolf would smile and laugh about something whenever you and Blade were there.
Silver Wolf had asked you to do something—which was to give something to him. Apparently from Elio or whatever. You found yourself growing tired when you looked through each corridor and room till you realized he was probably out on the rooftop. Ugh, seriously?
Opening the door, you finally found him...with a girl?
Are you seeing things right? A girl. Presumably one of the other newer colleagues, was laughing and smiling with him. You had no idea what his expression was since his back was turned.
You felt your heart drop as you clearly saw her hand over a letter with a heart stamp seal.
Too bad you couldn't back out in handing whatever Silver Wolf gave you to him now if it really is one of Elios.
Putting on a fake measly smile, you walked closer as you called out to him saying Silver Wolf had something to give to him. Ugh. Couldn't she have sent it through the phone if it's a text?
"Hm—What is that...?" The girl pouted making you cringe a little. And you take that as your cue to leave, telling them to have a ’good’ time walking away back to the door with an empty pit inside of your stomach.
Yet when you need to close the door you somehow accidentally slammed it loudly, making a loud noise echo in 'n out as you hurried down stairs before someone went to check making you embarrassed.
You then find Silver Wolf in the same spot, reporting to her that her dumb request is done.
"Huh? Whats with the sudden gloomy vibe? You were so carefree when I asked you like 30 minutes ago." She asked, blowing gum before it popped taking it back inside her mouth chewing it.
"What gloomy vibe? I'm the same as before." Putting on a fake annoyed smile again at her remark making her tell you to chill and you could go.
As you closed the door behind you in your room, you threw yourself into the bed screaming into your pillow.
It didn't matter how much you'd scream since this place is soundproof for ’disguise’.
"Who the actual FUCK was that bitch?!" You spoke in a mildly loud annoyed tone, scratching your head aggressively messing up a part of your hair when you suddenly hear a few rhythmical knocks on your door. Who the crack could it be now?
You unlock the door, opening it to see Kafka wave as she sat down on your bed inviting herself inside.
"I didn't say you could come in." You scoffed.
"Thats true, but were you the one who slammed the door to the rooftop?" She asked, looking at you with those same gentle hypnotizing eyes tilting her heading slightly. The question embarrassed you, how does she even know that?
"... How do you know that?"
"Silver Wolf. Blade. Girl." She listed how one by one, as you shot her a confused look.
"Doesn't matter though, I just needed to know that—but another thing, why slammed the door after confessing to him?"
Confessing? Confess what? What exactly did you give to him that Silver Wolf wanted you to hand over?
"What?" You deadpan.
"Oh, y'know... The thing. The thing you gave to him." She recounted your memory of it as you felt yourself flush a bright red, yelling at her to get out and that you have NO idea what shes talking about as you lock the door again in a hurry to go to sleep and forget.
Since it was finally the time for the sweeeeet time off, you could just relax at the base—however your encounters with him became more frequent.
As you saw him with Kafka following from behind from afar in a corridor slowly walking closer, also remembering what Kafka said, and how Blade seemed to look at you differently. You instantly turned the other way walking to the closest next hallway you could find trying to avoid his sight.
"Hmm? Thats odd, she usually joins us for a walk when you're here, Bladie."
But he just stays silent, seemingly confused at why you walked away so quickly when you saw him and you were clearly trying to go somewhere. He only continued to walk without a word assuming you went the wrong way
However, that same thought couldn't be kept with how frequent your "wrong ways" became.
When you sat down for a leisure cup of coffee with Kafka and Silver Wolf, you somehow knew he was behind you, but not too close or too far. You glugged the piping hot cup down your throat not caring about the after effects, as you slam your hands down onto the table; "I need to go, just remembered something important."
"Hm? Is it not a good time to relax?" Kafka spoke with a clear sarcastic tone, leading you to swiftly walk away with a hurting mouth, throat, and stomach.
The loud slam caught his attention, noticing how you walked away in a hurry was out of character for you. Don't you usually like coffee times where you three sit down to talk about stuff? Well I guess it should be more like ’tea’ time. Haha, get it?
And another, when you were in your room just chilling sitting in front of your desk on your phone, you heard a few knocks. You asked who was there, but in response was pure silence. So you just reluctantly open the door.
Looking down, "Yes, whos there..." speaking with a lazy tone with a sliver of annoyance looking up to find their eyes, you immediately slammed the door locked when it was Blade who was about to speak.
You immediately curled up into a ball in front of the door out of pure embarrassment. When you finally heard footsteps going away, you got up with extreme wobbling legs walking to your bed.
Also after that, you stayed in your room for the whole day ignoring any knocks on your door, even if it was rhythmical probably being Kafka or a barrage of impatient knocks which was usually Silver Wolf.
And one of the most recent ones were much like the first, in a corridor. You were trying to find a vending machine when you saw him heading your way. His eyes somewhat seemed to light up slightly when he noticed you.
But you were not gonna walk away this time—instead of that, you avoided making eye contact as you kept walking in the same direction, completely ignoring him.
He was shocked, genuinely. Probably pissed too. Why are you the one ignoring him after you'd basically confessed to him? You were talking to everyone expect him.
Blade couldn't help but realize how genuinely depressing his already annoying life was without you, though he knew he couldn't have any of those feelings again with how he planned to finally die after finishing whatever Elio promised.
But it hurt a little. It wasn't fair. Wasn't fair for neither of you. Why even are you avoiding him if you like him so much? At some times you think about finally talking to him and he'd accept your feelings—but you brushed that ’useless’ thought away assuming he thinks you're a creep for wanting him...especially with the weird fantasies you've had.
Kafka eventually noticed Blade seeming to be more out of it than usual. It looked like he was sulking hugging his almost broken sword as he leaned against a pillar.
"Uh. What's wrong with him...?" Silver Wolf pointed his peculiar behavior out. Kafka only shrugged in response with a concerned sigh, "Whats wrong, Bladie?"
"Nothing." He mumbled to himself.
"Oh please, I feel like shes influenced you with the blatant lying." Silver Wolf scoffed, clearly referring to you.
"Speaking of her, is she the reason?" Kafka took a turn to ask. But he was just silent. Probably thinking if you really are the reason.
"I'm guessing thats a yes." Kafka smiled, "Lets go find her, shall we?" Gesturing for Blade to follow. Silver Wolf only stayed behind knowing exactly why.
"So, why are you avoiding Blade?" She asked, with the atmosphere being tense as Blade just sat Beside you. You were sandwiched in the middle by these people.
You had no way to escape now. Your heart thrummed heavily.
"I don't know what you're talki–."
"You've been avoiding me for almost the whole break." Blade interrupted with a stern tone making the atmosphere worse making your eye twitch from how awkward it was.
"I'll leave the room so you two can be more honest with each other." Kafka abruptly got up, as your hand extended out slightly to tell her to stay with how you didn't want to stay here all alone with him, but your voice felt like it disappeared when you saw him staring at your hand from the side.
"Ah..." You mumbled, taking your hand back placing it on your lap trying to avoid making eye contact.
"Why?" He asked, leaving you confused.
"Why what...?"
"The ’avoiding’." He quoted, like it was a movie title for some reason.
"I—...uhm. Thats erm." You tried to find a good excuse for the moment, but the way he suddenly placed his hand on one of yours made you speechless.
Why the actual fuck is he suddenly so intimate? Well I guess Kafka could've gave him a tip or two.
"Do you wanna... kiss?" He bluntly asked, making you cringe a little in perplexation. What exactly type of tips did Kafka give him? Like the consent thing is nice and all but...???????????
You sigh, since hes the one that asked, I guess it won't really matter.
You grab onto his collar with both hands pulling him closer, kissing him like an amateur. As you pull away you feel yourself heat up when you clearly see his frown slightly lift into a small—almost unnoticeable smile.
He kisses you back this time, as your grip on him loosened melting into the kiss. You knew he couldn't hug you due to the injuries on his body, but it's fine.
Nothing else mattered. Atleast for now.
But for some reason, you only got shyer from there. Sure you've always wanted to be with him but...
Blade would randomly hold onto your hand sometimes and you'd shake it off quickly with a bright red face. He didn't find it offensive at all, more like he found it funny. His expressions were still pretty much blank around you but it was still nice to see a small smile a few select of times.
It didn't help with how he only got bolder from there—randomly kissing you during missions leaving either Silver Wolf or Kafka in a state of shock if they happened to see it.
Silver Wolf would just walk away in disgust and tell you both to go get a room. Well, in a joking manner.
Kafka would laugh and tease about it for a whole week making you pissed, it didn't help with how Blade managed to be there by your side each time too.
"Stop following me around like a lost puppy..." You spoke in a low, awkward tone.
"I'm pretty sure you like that."
"Touché– But don't you have anything else to do other than cling onto me whenever we see each other?"
"I do. I just like doing it with you."
First of all, that sentence was horribly worded. Sure he had no idea what it sounds like, but you on the other hand imploded into a red brighter like nothing else before.
"Wrong phrasing, Blade." Silver Wolf replied for you.
Till one thought came to you... What happened to that girl that confessed to him?
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hint: someone killed her :)
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fuckthemforthis · 6 months
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And what if... Ne Bi Smel isn't about the kind of cheating we think? What if it's actually about "cheating" the band and especially Kris?
We know the second album consists of more authentic Bojan's experiences, but we also know he once emphasised he never cheated. Yet the song feels highly personal, so...
Rad bi vedel kaj lahko nardim
Da mikro kozmos tvoj nazaj dobim
(I would love to know what I can do
to get your microcosm back)
-> We've noticed, especially lately, Bojan singing these words to Kris directly. We also know it was their creative differences behind pausing the band, and that the band "wasn't really cohesive and harmonious" before the pause. Hence the wondering how to get their little universe back. Both the band's, and Kris'.
Ni besed pravilnih, celo noč sem jih iskal
Razen, da iskreno rečem da neskončno mi je žal
(There are no right words, I've searched for them all night
Besides honestly saying that I'm infinitely sorry)
-> When talking about it, he looks serious and melancholic. And I can imagine him tapping his pen all night when realisation hit him, just to write this, because really, what else can he say? Even with this song, he can't find a way to take away the pain he feels he caused. And he still looks at Kris while singing this part, because again, it was their creative differences and he's possibly putting most blame on himself. Even though it's behind them now and they're stronger for it, it's probably one of the hardest experiences they shared and that bond makes him look at Krisko with all the love.
Čez resnico sem potresu svoj pepel
Večno kriv, nikoli cel
(I sprinkled my ashes over the truth
Eternally guilty, never whole)
-> He repented privately and publicly, maybe even through this song. Without getting back his band and the full depth of the relationship he shared with Kris and the rest, he could never feel whole. Like he said, he realised loneliness and solo career weren't satisfactory for him and repentantly came back.
Vem da ne bi smel, a drugače nisem znal
Ugasniti tišine, bežati od bližine
(I know I shouldn't, but I knew no better way
To turn off the silences, run away from closeness)
-> Even while writing "solo artist appropriate songs", he knew he shouldn't have been doing that. But instead of music, the band's unsynchronization provided silences that haunted him. He needed to turn them off, and rather than working on getting back their mojo and closeness, he chose the seemingly easy way out and ran away from trying.
Rane puščam si odprte, da jih objame sol
Če ne vrneš se domov
(I'm leaving my wounds open for salt to cover them
If you don't come back home)
-> He chose to not only accept - but invite the pain if he doesn't get his band back. The safety of their bond and mutual understanding prior to these mistakes felt like home. His weird ass dynamic with Kris felt like home. And if he somehow couldn't get him to fall back into what they shared, get him to forgive and come home, Bojan wasn't going to try to heal, because he believed he would deserve to suffer.
Izdal te za trenutek lažne sreče
Zdaj pa spet me k tebi vleče
(I betrayed you for a moment of false happiness
But now I'm drawn to you again)
-> He betrayed the band, and most of all Kris for what he though would be his big break and make him happy, but he realised quickly enough it was the opposite - very superficial and not doing it for him. And that is when he was drawn back to where he belonged. Kris playing Gola for him only helped cement it. Their creative differences may have helped put the band on pause, but it was probably only them that also could've - and have - resumed it.
So yeah. This is my headcanon now. Anyway...
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ratgirlcopia · 29 days
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Nah, i think what you said in your lore opinion makes a lot of sense, actually, and as your token mutual who is (unfortunately, here) very fond of terzo and meliora, i think, from a 'what is ghost to someone just getting into it' perspective its probably the most coherent way to approach it!
(My migraine addled brain last night suggested it's like. Vampires before and after Dracula. Prequelle and Impera are putting a definite and more specific thing together. The earlier albums and papas play with a premise, and it's not that there's *not* stories there, but. If you're writing a dracula story you don't really have to integrate other earlier, potentially contradictory, vampire concepts unless you want to, because we've got a single, specific iteration we're working with now. The previous papas and how they interact with copia's lore are functionally, as you say, more like fun AUs than equal canon)
yeah i think this is a really good way of looking at it! the previous papas are essential to how the concept evolved, but they're just not part of it anymore, they were a separate thing, and that time is pretty much over. sorry in advance for how long this is, this ask just made me start thinking about it again and i think it's an extremely interesting topic.
it's sort of wild, because i guess they figured that in order to keep people invested, copia had to be part of the "same" universe, and there had to be background characters carrying over across eras to bridge the gap, but the longer it goes on, the more it becomes obvious that the story probably would've benefited a lot from doing something like, "hey, the three previous guys were all from, say, the swedish location of the ghost ministry, but now we're going to talk about all-new characters from the los angeles location and it's a separate thing." but the decision to keep imperator and nihil as characters who have always been orchestrating things across eras (thus retconning a lot of stuff in the process) means we have these very ambiguous connections that weigh down the narrative.
even nihil's whole existence is contradictory. they present him as if he's been "papa" forever, we also have the "there can only be one papa" rule copia throws out during the ascension show, so then we're left with...what, nihil was papa before, then his kids were papa, then he went back to being papa? if the title is that easy to toss back and forth, it doesn't really mean anything. but if we view nihil-imperator-copia as their own universe, with nihil holding onto that title forever because there just isn't anybody else who's good enough for it, his whole deal makes a lot more sense.
the previous three are killed off SO unceremoniously, and because they are literally never brought up again, it just feels like (again, understandably) the writing at the beginning of the prequelle era was pretending there's a connection to the past eras that wasn't really there, to convince people to stay invested in what was essentially a brand-new thing. but now that it's worked and people are invested in copia, there aren't any more call-backs to previous eras, because they don't need them. but that weird "is it the same thing or isn't it" connection is still there because they relied on it in the beginning of the prequelle era.
it's the kind of thing that would drive me absolutely crazy if i was responsible for figuring out how to tell a coherent story, but thankfully that's not on me so i can just watch.
i think ghost is probably a very, very difficult thing to write for because of all this, which is part of why i'm so interested to see what the ghovie ends up doing. i think it could be a really cool opportunity to retcon the parts that don't make sense and try to edit all the weird, ambiguous loose ends together into a good, internally consistent story. they'd have to be willing to risk going "hey, these things aren't connected at all, sorry," more openly than they have before (even though that's basically the reality, with the current era not acknowledging the previous guys at all), but i think it would be worth the risk in terms of turning out a story that can stand on its own as a logically sound thing.
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Hiiii, Jazzy! For the ask game: 🍓 🥑 🔪 🌿 🪲 (hehe sorry djsakgjkdg <3)
Hi Sparrow!!
🍓 ⇢ how did you get into writing fanfiction? 
I’m a long time fanfic reader, but I didn’t start really writing anything until 2021. I think, probably, because of the pandemic and needing some kind of outlet for creating things (and also because the Miraculous Ladybug plotlines were haunting my dreams, rattling their chains around in my brain until I finally caved and wrote some actual communication/emotional resolution for the characters that I wasn't getting from the show)
🥑 ⇢ you accidentally killed somebody, which mutual(s) do you text for help?
You and @waterloou lol
🔪 ⇢ what's the weirdest topic you researched for a writing project?
Bahaha there are SO many, because I frequently have to look things up to write all the fun little facts Wylan has in his head. But I’m not sure researching poisons and how to build bombs/fireworks is all that weird, to be honest.
I’m going to go with the time I was writing a Good Omens fic, and I used google street view to virtually walk from the Ritz to around where Aziraphale’s bookshop would be in soho, so I could know exactly what it looked like and if/when they would likely pass by St. James’s park on the way, and what named streets would be on that route. (I’m not even sure that’s that weird. Maybe I need to be weirder...)
🌿 ⇢ give some advice on writer's block and low creativity
I do generally believe in the whole “not forcing it and take breaks if you need to” thing usually, but as for advice:
Consume some type of media you really like. Movie, show, book, an old favorite fic, anything that inspires you. I also like going back to the source material for things like fic because it gives me ideas or gets me into the right mental place to write the characters, and I like reading my own fics to brush up on my own interpretations/style.
🪲 ⇢ add 50 words to your current wip and share the paragraph here
Oh...did you say 50? becuase I slipped and wrote 283...
(from Jesper's pov of the bookshop scene in ch 1 of Everyday)
At some point he loses Wylan to an art book he seems keen on and quietly drifts away with, leaving Jesper to talk to the enthusiastic bookeep on his own.
Jesper’s arms are getting progressively heavier with book recommendations, and the bookkeeper is somehow still holding at least twice as many. He doesn’t understand where they're even coming from at this rate, because more just seem to, to appear each time he looks away. 
He thinks about Kaz and his sleight of hand, and wonders at the chance that the bastard of the Barrel has been giving magic lessons to Wijnstraat booksellers in his free time. 
He actually has read some of the books the man recommends, either because they were commonly popular in his parents house or on the frontier, or from his short stint in university.
Unfortunately, mentioning that prompts the bookeep to ask, “Ah, so you’re a student, then?”
“Er—” Jesper blanches, in such a pitifully uncomposed way that he’s sure he can just feel Kaz shaking his head in judgemental spirit. The bookeep raises one solitary eyebrow, and Jesper, for some reason—probably because he’s Jesper—keeps bloody talking. “Yea-up. Yeah,” he bobs his head in a jerky nod, “Students, at the university. Good ol’ U of K. Woo...” Jesper cheers. Actually cheers. 
Great fucking work Fahey, very believable.
The bookkeep raises his other eyebrow, but smiles kindly. “That must be exciting. What are you studying?”  “Business,” Jesper answers quickly, and makes a concerted effort to not let it sound like a question. 
His fingers twitch, longing to trace over the pearl handles of his revolvers, but they’re hidden deep under the folds of his coat, and—apparently—he’s a university student now. 
I'm probably (definitely) going to be late to my fist class today now, but I really don't regret it.
Thanks for the questions!! 💖
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abruisedmuse · 5 months
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One thing that makes me laugh is when people have said that in Azriel’s bonus chapter, the part with Elain, made them uncomfortable, e/riel’s will say we can’t handle kink or what should we expect of a 500 year old man. Azriel’s bonus chapter wasn’t even kinky. Silver Flames wasn’t kinky either. If anything, Manon & Dorian’s sex scenes in Empire of Storms and Kingdom of Ash were more kinky than Silver Flames and that bonus chapter. What made people uncomfortable was the lack of depth and romance. Azriel’s self shame and how he kept talking about Elain felt like some purity kind of thing, if that makes sense, was weird. (I don’t know how to explain it in words but it makes sense in my head). Azriel is supposedly in love with Elain, but if you take away the sexual attraction/lust we got nothing. Nothing about if he had actual romantic feelings for Elain, about her as a person, what he knows about her other than she likes to bake and garden and she’s beautiful.
E/riel’s say they’re close friends and have a deep connection, but we didn’t get anything about that. Not if they had deep/meaningful conversations or spent a lot of time together. It’s in literal text that it had never gone anywhere beyond glances and brushes of their fingers. If Elain was trying to be a spy (like e/riel’s love to claim) we would have also gotten something about that. And the necklace was a generic gift. It was superficial. If it wasn’t, he wouldn’t have given it away. The necklace wasn’t anything deep.
“Azriel and Elain want each other,” all I got was Azriel wanted her out of lust and jealousy and we don’t know if Elain wanted him out of lust/as a rebound for Graysen or if she actually has romantic feelings for him. We didn’t get her pov so we don’t know. Azriel didn’t stand up to Rhys or say that he’s starting to develop romantic attraction to her. If he told Rhys that (or alluded to having genuine feelings), I’m sure his brother would’ve been more understanding. There were some people who actually shipped e/riel, but after reading the bonus chapter got completely turned off from it. I think that’s saying something. Sorry for the long ask and rant.
putting my response under the keep reading cause it's long
I agree with your points. Yeah acosf, it wasn't kinky i don't believe it was ever intended to be it's just more adult and more sexually forward then the rest of acotar. There's dirty talk but that's not really kinky. Manon and Dorian's scenes in EOS/KOA you know they were up to kinky shit cause the text leads into it. Yeah it's not going to be as detailed as acosf because the entirety of tog is young adult. If it was adult we'd all need cold showers after every Manorian sex scene lmao.
Azriel was never in love with Elain. Never. It's never stated that he even has a slight romantic thought towards her. He literally just wants to fuck her thats it. End of story. Rhys even asks him this in Az's bonus chapter and Azriel hadn't thought beyond that night nor the political implications or anything. He just wants sex. Mind blowing concept but romance and sex are not mutually exclusive. You can fuck someone without being in love or without any romantic feelings whatsoever. Nesta slept with many Illyrians didn't mean she was in love with them. Helion has like nightly orgies doesn't mean he wants to date them. Sex is sex. It's not that deep.
From the context of EVERY acotar book, it seems to be that Az and Elain are just acquaintances, they're not that close. He, like the rest of the IC see the surface of Elain and nothing more. I hate that necklace for so many reasons let me tell you nonnie. First, the meaning behind a frozen flower. It's stuck in time just like that. Never growing, never learning. Which is literally what Elain is doing. Him giving her that necklace says to me that he's okay with her being like this. Never growing and finding herself the way Feyre did and Nesta was in the process of. I also hate it cause of the regifting. Sir, my guy, why are we doing this? You're suppose to be the male who doesn't need to resort to poetry and shit yet you're regifting a necklace? okay.
Azriel doesn't stand up to Rhys because he knows he's right. Risking so much, wanting to kill Lucien and leave Elain feeling like a part of her is missing til the end of her days. And for what? to get his dick wet? His view point when it comes to Elain is selfish. Regardless of how she feels towards him. Like you pointed out we have zero clues if Elain just wants sex or if she's crushing and possibly wanting a romance. If it was the later I feel so bad for her she deserves better than some male who doesn't want the same.
If Elain and Azriel were to be romantic in the books everything would be different. His bonus chapter he would've said something about his feelings, their friendship and flirting would be on page for the reader to see this. But it's not. Sorry not sorry. E/riel is a fanon ship and it will always be a fanon ship. That's not a bad thing. There's a lot of amazing fanon ships out there. For some reason alot of, not all, but aloot of E/riels seem to think their ship being fanon is a bad thing.
It's wild because no one is telling them they can't ship it. Just that it's not a canon endgame. Before acosf and the infamous Az chapter I thought, in a fanon sense, the pairing would be cute. I never thought they'd be canon. Not once. But since that bonus chapter it just gave me the ick so bad that I had to leave the ship behind.
Don't apologize for the rant! Please rant away!
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I've had the suspicion she wasn't the one who did the breakup since the first breakup articles. The first one from ET was fairly succint on the why and clearly stated it was a mutual decision, but shortly after that it came out the People article which as we know it's her PR's favorite. And that one gave a lot more. For starters they decided to suddenly say they had rough patches before and the friends thought this was another one (because swifties are illiterate they took it as they were like on and off so the breakup made sense, which seems like it was the purpose all along), but then in the same article they also decided to say for some reason that they had been talking about marriage just a few months ago (again fueling the swiftie hatred. And low key it seems to confirm the rumours that were never denied about them being engaged were true. Coincidence that months after Taylor releases a song hinting at marriage?).
The most dawning thing for me though was that in this article they decided to not leave the narrative that it was mutual. It starts that way, but they literally went yes it was mutual but it was more of HER decision to break up because she felt they weren't going to work out in the long run. And it has always been weird to me why they decided to do that as to make her coming on top as some kind of winner or whatever.
And it makes things funnier cause why were they talking about marriage if she was the one that didn't see them working out. So he wasn't the one that didn't want it then, like the narrative that's being widespread. And for how long was the rough patch going on since there were marriage talks? One moment you are thinking about marriage, the other you are struggling and then breakup. I feel like if you are talking about marriage in a serious way the relationship has to be in a good place.
And people might ask but if she wasn't the one to call the dibs why wouldn't he call her out but like would it be worth it? Start a war with her PR team? Because at the end of the day would he even care if that was the story she decided to spun around? I know if it was me, I would be like you want to say it was you but we both know the truth? Go ahead, whatever makes you sleep better at night. Actually it might even be beneficial to me not to deny and you get the girl boss moment you want
the whole thing seemed very convoluted to me. like yeah everyone and their dog is obviously going to have an article about the split, but the way that taylor’s pr team just kept feeding more shit week after week until she had someone new to date was sus but moreso just ridiculous. the wording and the way she jumped at the chance to “correct” the story with pr planted articles tells me everything i need to know about who called it off.
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goatpaste · 1 year
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Is it ok to ask why you don't like jjba part 5 golden wind as a whole?
So I will say, I like it more than part 2 and mmm it ans part 7 kinda have similar issue on my dislike for it, but that's so hard because I think the lucy plot line ultimately is worse than any of the issues p5 had, but I like the cast of characters and setting more than p5
All in all my dislike for part 5 is simply?? I think its boring
Like I'm so sorry I think this will get me nailed to a cross and I respect and love ppl and mutuals who love this part
But I think it mostly just kinda isn't my favirote
I think
Bruno and trish are the best characters in that part, I really like them and wish trish got to play a bigger part while bruno felt like he was more of a main character with a much more convincing conviction as a character that spoke to me. His storyline was done the best imo
And I enjoy naracia and mista because their very fun, but idk? I don't have anything against them I really do like them but they feel a lil lacking but doing p ok
I just dont like abbacchio and I KNOW this is something that isn't share among my pears lol
But I geniuenly don't like abbacchio I kinda just find him.... meh? I don't really like him! Also he's a cop, and kinda died sad he wasn't a good cop.. like I get reading his character certain ways but I think he's just not my thing I don't care him sorry everyone
Fugohas grown on me a lil, I think he is one of the better written characters of the group, and it is kind of a shame we didn't see more of him even just away from the group yknow
Then.. I'm sorry but I don't care about giorno. LIKE I don't hate giorno and I think his intro character was very fun and parts of him were fun. But I think he was just ultimately kinda boring to me. It felt like he got sidelined in his own part? I wish they were more 'intense' with his character traits. I wish him and the whole gang stayed weirder
Then the plots
Fine
It's fine I don't hate it, it's a decent plot. Maybe my issue is more I think it was paced weird?
I think the beginning and end are SO SLOW and SUCH a drag to watch through. While the middle? I like the middle it was much more fast paced and whatever. I liked the characters best there
And then fights are hit or miss to me
I really like the fights narancia, bruno and trish had they were probably my favirotes. The truth one time and time again make me wish trish played a bigger role, got to do a team up fight with bruno and also get to kill her dad
But yeah no the easiest way to put it, is that I just generally find the part lackluster with a meh ending. I just think araki has done better (and worse) in other parts
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its-ares · 2 years
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Coming clean // j.b
contents: Jon Bernthal x Male Reader
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"A warm welcome to Jon Bernthal," calls the host and claps along with the audience. Jon comes on stage with a smile and waves to the audience. The presenter approaches him and greets the actor with a big smile and a hug.
"Nice to have you here Jon. I'll be honest, I've been looking forward to you coming to my show all week," says the host with a nice smile and Jon feels relaxed about it. He sits down on the yellow armchair and makes himself comfortable. The audience is still clapping. Jon smiles widely and puts his hand on his heart. "Thank you very much for the nice reception, I'm also very happy to be here," laughs Jon and turns slightly to the presenter, who has taken a seat in the other chair.
"So Jon, how were you feeling? I can't even begin to imagine how hectic the last few days and weeks have been for you," the moderator says with compassion. Jon nods and licks his lips. “Yes, the last time has been really exhausting and nerve-wracking. Every day so many people wanted something from me, my cell phone really rang from morning to night until I finally turned it off. In the long run, my ringtone really upset me,” the actor grins and the audience can't help but laugh too.
The host nods in understanding and gives him an encouraging smile, so Jon continues. "But aside from all the hustle and bustle, I, we are fine. In the beginning it was very, how should I put it, weird. Does it make sense? Suddenly everyone knew and really everyone wants to add their two cents and supposedly everyone always knows something, but over time it has gotten better. But that took a while, so for us as a couple it was a completely different number,” explains Jon and takes a sip of his water.
The host listened to him carefully and didn't even interrupt him, which doesn't happen often. “Wow, that all sounds pretty harsh. And how did your partner react to the fact that everyone suddenly knew about you? That must have been pretty exhausting for him, too,” she says, sounding genuinely interested.
Jon nods and takes a deep breath. "Yeah, it wasn't easy for him either. He was also bombed from all sides. He got an incredible amount of hate messages. He also kept it to himself for a long time about the messages because he didn't want to stress me out any more. I noticed what was going on, but he hid it really well from me, but then my ex-wife said something along those lines and we sat down and he told me about it and I was really shocked What kind of messages he got there, wow,” says Jon and you can see his anger.
The host and the audience look shocked. She shakes her head says „Incredibly these people, ha!“
But then she blushes a little. Jon laughs at this and raises an eyebrow. "What?" he asks, laughing. She laughs and mumbles in embarrassment, "I'm embarrassed now." Jon grins and slides further forward in the chair.
"Well, tell me, now I want to know," he smiles. The audience laughs and everyone calls in for her to say it. "Alright, alright. So, you now have a partner. You were previously married to Erin, with whom you also have children. You got divorced a year ago…” she falters.
Jon nods. "Yes, that's right. Erin and I divorced a year ago and I have a partner, my boyfriend M/N. I've always known that I like men too. Erin knew it from the start, too. Many people asked in the comments if I cheated on her, I didn't. I wanted to make that clear. I met my boyfriend, I think three years ago. I went to dinner with Erin and other friends at the time and M/N came along too. He just moved here and was invited by a mutual friend. We got along well from the start. And over time we fell in love. Erin and I have also been separated for a long time, we realized that we weren't really a couple anymore but more like friends. We then amicably separated and she was pretty smart and noticed that I felt something for M/N. She was happy for me and then wanted to set us up and sent us on the weirdest dates. Once we were in a restaurant where you couldn't talk. I have no idea what she was thinking, we really sat there like idiots for two hours. When we were done we went out and laughed“, Jon laughs and leans back a bit in the chair.
The audience laughs too. They shout something in, which makes Jon grin. The host wipes the tears from her eyes. "Oh my God," she laughs and can't stop herself. "Phew. How did she come up with the idea of sending you there?”, she asks laughing and Jon gets in again. "I have no idea, honestly. I asked her about it after the date. At first she didn't understand why I was asking that until she noticed it herself. Then she had to laugh at herself."
"Jon, thank you for your candor today. I wish you and M/N all the best and hope that you can now recover a little from the stress," says the presenter and smiles. Jon nods and puts one hand to his heart. “I have to thank you for the nice conversation and thanks to the great audience. I thought long and hard about coming today. Actually, I don't owe anyone an answer about my private life, but I wanted to clarify a few things once and for all." He gets up and the host hugs him.
She says goodbye to Jon and he waves goodbye to the audience. He goes backstage where M/N is waiting for him. His boyfriend grins broadly and hugs him. "I'm proud of you," he whispers in Jon's ear and kisses him. Jon just grins.
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therev28 · 6 months
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20 Fanfic Questions
Tagged by @bioticbooty (indirectly). Thank you!
Tagging @infiwrites, @ryqoshay and anyone else who feels so inclined!
How many works do you have on AO3?
99! Definitely hitting 100 by the end of the year ^_^
2. What's your total AO3 words count?
496,196
I'm 100% hitting half a mill by the end of the year, which is nuts to think about
3. What fandoms do you write for?
Lately it's been a lot of Project Sekai, but I still write some Love Live fic and the occasional one-off when a new fandom really grabs me.
4. What are your top 5 fics by kudos?
Love Live! Nijigasaki Shipping Anthology - Exactly what it says on the tin. It's an anthology fic containing a single ~1000 word chapter for every possible Nijigasaki ship. I'm currently at 49/55 done!
Personal Choices - A Lycoris Recoil ChisaTaki fic. In fact, it was the third fic in the tag, written after episode 3 of the anime. The show went on to be fairly popular, and because I got in the tag early, it did some really good numbers.
Mutual Fantasies - Another LycoReco ChisaTaki fic, and this was the first smut fic in the tag, lol. Similar to above, it's done numbers by dint of being there first. (I do think it's pretty good, but certainly not my best work.)
A Sellout Night - A Bocchi the Rock NijiBocchi fic. Another case of a fandom being much bigger than my normal ones and thus giving bigger stats than typical. Tho I wrote for a slightly smaller ship, which makes me happier that it did well. I'm also pretty proud of it.
Leo/need Shipping Week - 2022 - Again, exactly what it says on the tin, lol. Because there are 4 members of Leo/need, there are six possible ships. Add a free day (aka, poly ship), and you've got a whole week! This was my first real time writing Project Sekai fic, and Leo/need wasn't nearly as popular back then. (They're still not the most popular, but the whole fandom is bigger.) Very proud of how this one turned out!
5. Do you respond to comments? Why or why not?
Absolutely! I love replying to comments. It just feels like the right thing to do? Like, someone took the time to leave a comment and tell me how my story made them feel! The least I could do is reply and let them know I saw it and that it was appreciated. And depending on the type of comment, I can sometimes talk about themes/motifs/motivations/etc. that I might not really get to talk about much otherwise.
6. What's the fic you wrote with the angstiest ending?
Honestly, not many of my fics end ansty? I'm very much a proponent of angst with a happy ending. I don't mind making my characters sad, but I want them to eventually be ok.
7. What's the fic you wrote with the happiest ending?
Considering I live for fluff, happy endings are like 99% of my catalogue, lmao. But it's probably the 42k slow burn, Passion's Growth. The main leads spend years coming to understand the depths of their feelings for each other, and it was pretty satisfying to write them finally getting together.
8. Do you get hate on fics?
Haven't yet, no. I've gotten some weird comments, but no hate.
9. Do you write smut. If so what kind?
I do, yeah. I'm incapable of writing "quick" smut. Almost all of mine has at least a few thousand words of build up. I tend to write couples (or polycules on occasion) experiencing something new in bed. Whether it's literally their first time together or they're deciding to try something new, I just like exploring how that might play out.
10. Do you write crossovers? What's the craziest one you've written?
Not really, no. I wrote a short Love Live/Project Sekai fic, but that's about it.
11. Have you ever had a fic stolen?
Don't believe so.
12. Have you ever had a fic translated?
I have! One in Spanish for sure (it's a related work on AO3), and I think two in Russian on a different site? (They asked for permission, I just never saw the end result.)
13. Have you ever cowritten a fic before?
Once, with some friends over a decade ago (on ffnet (hi @bioticbooty, lol)). Honestly, it didn't get very far off the ground before we all kind of dropped it. It was really hard to juggle between the four of us, and while I did enjoy it at the end of the day, I don't think I'll ever do it again. Not really for me.
14. What's your all-time favourite ship?
God, this one's hard, lmao. Recency bias would have me say Setsuna/Ayumu from Love Live, but I think if I'm being truly honest with myself, I think it'd have to be Shepard/Garrus from Mass Effect.
15. What's a WIP you want to finish, but doubt you ever will?
I guess I could say my old ME self-insert, but honestly, I don't even want to finish it anymore. That fic is well and truly dead. Besides that, I make it a point not to start a fic unless I feel confident I can finish it.
16. What are your writing strengths?
Dialogue and inner monologue.
17. What are your writing weaknesses?
Descriptive prose. I've been trying to get better at it, but it's a slow process.
18. Thoughts on writing dialogue in another language for a fic?
Eh, no real thoughts. If it makes sense to do, do it. Otherwise I don't see much of a point.
19. First fandom you wrote for?
Mass Effect.
20. Favourite fic you've ever written?
You're gonna make me pick just one???
I think I'll pick When Everything Changes. This was the first long fic I wrote after almost 10 years of not writing much at all. After a series of oneshots, writing (and finishing) this fic made me really feel like I was back. Not to mention that it has some of my favorite hurt/comfort, smut, and angst, all in a single chapter! And in that order, too! I often joke that it's my masterpiece, but taken in the traditional sense of "a work that proves one has the skills to become a master," it kind of fits.
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A couple things I was wondering is how did you figure out you had BPD? I know there's a couple disorders that can often get diagnosed beforehand, so I guess how did you know there was more going on? Secondly, what kind of therapy do you feel was the most helpful, if any? I have issues keeping a therapist because they tuxedo mask away after realizing I already have CBT down (which only kind of helps me). Thank you for being open about BPD! I feel like there's so much unnecessary stigma.
hiiiiii!! sorry i didnt reply yesterday i spent all day writing my silly sims stories 😴 i will talk about my experience under the cut!! ty for being curious about it!! <3
umm tbh i was diagnosed in a really weird way lol. so, like, where i went to high school was a really conservative and religious town, and when i was a freshman in high school i was one of the only trans/lgbt kids that was vocally out at my school. there were more of them, my friend group was basically all lgbt ppl, but i was the only person in my school who would demand staff to call me a different name/use different pronouns. but anyways so my lgbt friend group was being bullied pretty badly so our school hired this counselor training in lgbt issues that would talk to us individually about our experiences as lgbt kids who were bullied and such. it was actually really cool you know! but anyways i was one of the students who had to participate in this and the lady who was talking to me realized that i was, like, a really troubled kid lol. and on top of that i was failing all my classes and i had been struggling in school my entire life (like consistently making report cards with at least 5/7 of the classes being failed type of shit) sooooo they basically had this like idk meeting with my parents? where they were super adamant that they take me to a doctor and put me into therapy bc i was struggling really badly and yeah. after that my parents put me into therapy and got in touch w a doctor and i got some treatment and eventually a bpd diagnosis. but yea it only happened cuz of my school forcing them to take me ha.
the truth is i didn't really suspect anything was wrong with me because the way i grew up, i thought everyone acted like me 🤷‍♂️ i think the only time i started really thinking i might have bpd was when i got my first boyfriend at 16, that's when my codependency and attachment issues really started to manifest, and those have always consistently been the bpd symptoms i struggle the most with. but even back then i didn't really know what bpd was, so it wasn't like i was specifically thinking i was suffering w bpd. more so that i knew something was Off about me but i couldn't really explain what it was
unfortunately i haven't gone to therapy in a long time :( and the last time i went it wasn't for bpd treatment at all. so i really can't say what could help you there in terms of therapy. i did group therapy during my bpd treatment but it didn't really help me much.
you're probably not gonna like this answer lmao but i use weed to medicate my intense mood swings and that helps a lot. also just being able to recognize when i need to cool off and being able to use my words to tell ppl that i need to be alone for a minute to clear my head, that helps too. basically just being mindful of ur changing emotions and giving yourself room to feel those emotions and allow them to pass u, without feeling guilt for this, and without projecting those emotions onto other ppl bc at the end of the day it isn't really anyone else's fault that u feel the way you do.
also just try to give ppl the benefit of the doubt in general, ik my bpd makes me SO sensitive like for example. ik we make jokes about this but you guys im not kidding, my favorite mutual reblogging a post from someone else instead of me hurts my feelings so bad some days i have to just log off and go cry about it. CRY ABOUT IT YOU GUYS! it's really awful and totally not grounded in reality 😭 but like it's there, it's something i experience and deal with, and it isn't anyone's fault that it happens, it's just the cards i was dealt with.
so instead of projecting that feeling onto my beloved mutuals and being like Ohhhhh so you actually hate me! You actually want me to kill myself! You've actually never cared about me ever, person I've had two conversations with in total! yeah instead of working myself up for something so silly... i just try to put myself in other ppls shoes, try to remember that when i do things it is not with malicious intent and most people are also not doing things with malicious intent. bc for me, my bpd tends to dehumanize ppl... they arent people with nuance and depth and complex and at times contradictory lives, theyre my Favorite Person, person who does no wrong, person who could never do any wrong no matter how hard they try, and that's dehumanizing, that's unfair to the person!! so by humanizing the other person, by remembering we are all people with rich inner lives and struggles and most of us just want to do our best even when we slip and fall... it helps calm me down from those spirals where im like, ohhhhh god everyone hates me because they didn't reblog a text post from meeeee!!! lol
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Just made up a Black Lagoon OC heavily inspired by Jiren from DBS. Currently drawing him, but his name is Rejin Greyblood, nicknamed by most crime organizations as the "Monochrome Menace". He's given that nickname by the way because of him being the scariest mercenary and vanguard anyone can come across, he's also nomadic, meaning he can work with anyone however he pleases.
Though he wasn't intentionally going for the crime scenery, instead, before he became what he currently is, all he wanted to be a rockstar and form a band called the "Troops of Pride" or something like that, but ended up becoming a skilled merc-vanguard after coming into the crosshairs of Roberta's Blood Trail.
Though he didn't become a rockstar, he does have a taste in rock music, especially ones like Bon Jovi and the like. He often quotes the song "It's My Life" whenever he has a conversation with Revy or Rock.
Speaking of Rock, Rejin has a liking towards him, to the point where it's unknown if it's romantic or platonic. Though, by obvious standards, it's both.
FUN FACTS ABOUT REJIN GREYBLOOD!
Fun Fact #1: Though he has "Greyblood" as his name, he is born Japanese-raised-American. Hence his liking towards Rock, who is Japanese.
Fun Fact #2: Though not a parental figure or married to some degree (simply put, he's single and unmarried), he does treat most of the other mercenaries as if they're his own kids (for example, Hansel and Gretel), so he's not only skilled in murder but he's also skilled in parenting.
Fun Fact #3: Though identifying as a male, both mentally and biologically, he does like to crossdress at times. Though, he only does it when he feels pretty.
Fun Fact #4: Rejin has the same meaning as Jiren's name, it's just the Japanese word for "stove", just with a few letters rearranged to make a new name. This also makes up a new meaning with that new arrangement, meaning "King", "Precious", or "Extraordinary", which kind of fits, given Rejin's character as being extraordinary to the others.
Fun Fact #5: He knows of Roberta and her Blood Trail, as he was the one to witness all the blood that she spreads (well that's a weird way to say it), but also because of them later gaining mutual respect the more they meet each other during battle. (Which that whole thing is of course a reference to my poll, pitting Jiren against Roberta on Tumblr.)
Fun Fact #6: He takes insults as compliments, especially when he has conversations with Revy. (At one point, Revy called Rejin a "f*ggot" when regarding Rejin's platonic-romantic relationship with Rock, and he took it as a fact, stating "That's what he is". I mean, to be fair, Revy calling him that might be accurate so yeah.)
Fun Fact #7: His birthday is October 9th, 1960, making him (according to my sources) 35 years old, considering Black Lagoon is set in the mid-1990s, though if we put it in today's date; he'd be 63 years old by now. (Although Jiren's age is relatively unknown, I just decided to give Rejin my birthday, October 9th, because I can. Besides, I've done it before so what's stopping me from doing it again? Plus, his birthday is on a Sunday, which for most religious people is going-to-Church day, which is ironic considering Rejin is like a quarter away from being gay for Rock, if it's not obvious from the very start, and him not a religious person. So yeah.)
Fun Fact #8: Though he has a somewhat skinny physique, he's relatively muscular, with all the weight of firearms that he has been blasting and carrying throughout most of his time as a menace.
Fun Fact #9: His hair is naturally grey, despite him being 35, which for Japanese people only happens in their late 30s.
Fun Fact #10: He is quite an insomniac, due to him having to take missions during the night time and him not having a proper sleep schedule. Making him paler, sickly, and almost zombie-like to say the least. Which sort of describes the Grey Alien concept a bit more.
Fun Fact #11: Though he is not religious, Eda mentions how his outfit resembles church clothes most people wear when they go to worship God. He states to Eda that "he'll only consider worshipping a god when the world is on the brink of extinction". (Simply put, Rejin is an atheist)
Fun Fact #12: He's not a natural smiler, only able to smirk and grin at things he knows are intentional. He only genuinely smiles when Rock is in the room or when he is near Rock.
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"It's my life, it's now or never, I ain't gonna live forever, I just wanna live when I'm alive."
Day 6: Human Form (Black Lagoon)
My OC Rejin Greyblood, AKA Jiren if he's from the Black Lagoon Universe instead of the Dragon Ball Universe.
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Super long explanation about what happened with Sean that I recorded and then put into text
He and I met in September, we met at a debate competition. He was flirting with everyone there, including me. He said it was just for jokes, he's not looking for anything serious. He's not in a relationship, nothing like that. He's happy being single and blah, blah, blah, whatever bus ride back. He's like groping my thigh and he's like saying all this stuff flirting with me and I was like going along with it because I again thought it was just for jokes and I'm a very touchy touchy person. So like I didn't mind it and it wasn't until he got a little weird with it that I was really uncomfortable, but I didn't say anything because we were only like 10 minutes away from the school at that point. And I didn't want to make a big fuss or whatever for like 10 minutes. And then November rolls around. specifically November 21st rolls around. That date is important. and again, he's, he said he tells me, oh, nothing serious. Nothing like that. And it's freezing. It is freezing cold. I'm freezing. And again I'm a very touchy person. He said he's not in a relationship. Nothing serious. And I'm, I'm very touchy with my friends so I didn't think anything of it. And he's like, only flirting with me this time, only me and he's like, all over me and he's like, constantly, like touching me in some way or having his jacket wrapped around me or blah, blah, blah, something like that. I found out later that two of the friends that we met there were actually super uncomfortable with what happened. They were like, "yeah, I know you looked really uncomfortable" and I really was looking back. On the ride back. We had to sit in separate seats. Thank God. and then New Year rolls around. I get his number from a mutual friend. He's flirting with me all the time. I'm flirting back because I think it's like, I think we're joking and then he tells me at the end of January he goes, "oh ha ha. Yeah no, my girlfriend, like, you know, her math husband, like he asked her to be his Valentine and she said yes. And now they're a "couple". So I don't have anyone" and I was like, "oh, man, I didn't realize you had a girlfriend, like you never said anything". And he goes, "oh, yeah. No. Like, it's kind of new, you know, like, it's nothing like, it's like we're kind of new and whatever." And then he tells theme a few days later, he's like, "hey, do you have any plans for Valentine's Day?" And I said no. And he goes, "oh, maybe we could do something." I was like, "oh, are you asking me out?" He said yes. So we started going out, then I met his girlfriend and then I found out he had another girlfriend. They were in a polycule and I was like, oh, that, that's a little weird. Not super upsetting. I wish he had told me but, and they seemed cool with me. So they apparently knew about me. I just didn't know about them, which is like red flags all around but whatever. And then March rolls around. We go to the girlfriend's I previously mentioned math husband. We went to his birthday party. I only know him(ex), the friend and the two girlfriends. I only know them. And halfway through the party he turns to me and he's laughing and he goes, "I don't even know why we're together" and everyone looks at him like you did not just say that to your girlfriend.
And then so I left, upset, and then later I went over to the girlfriend's house and, her name's Roze, I went over to her house and I talked to her. I was like, this is, that was really shitty. Like I feel awful. And like, also I'm like, I feel really uncomfortable when he calls me his boyfriend and like only uses, he/him pronouns for me and like only uses masculine compliments. Like he never ever uses anything feminine for me. And she tells me, yeah, I know it's super weird that he is doing that. And then we called the other girlfriend and we kind of put everything together and I was like, hey, when did you guys get together? And then Rose, she told me they got together November 20th and I was like, what? And she goes, yeah. And I was like, he told me he wasn't in a relationship on November 21st and she goes "seriously?" and I said, "yeah". And then the other girlfriend on the phone, she chimes in, she goes, "he and I started going out in August!" and then we're all sitting there like, oh my God, this guy's a fucking asshole. He's been lying to us and then we're talking with the friend, the math husband or whatever. And he tells us that he's actually been faking his anemia issues and that he only uses a cane because he, like, wants sympathy from people. Like he wants people to think that he's disabled but he's not actually, and he's actually talked about how he's not actually disabled and how he wants an excuse to use the cane, which, like, you can just use a cane, like you don't have to be disabled to use one. It looks cool no matter what. And so that was just like the whole situation and that's pretty much what happened
Apologies for the amount of times I said the word like and if this didn't make any sense, it's midnight rn and im really out of it-
DAMN
I skimmed it coz I’m at like four percent
but damn asshole
boooo
I’ll throw that mf in the Thames frfr
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jesuisici33 · 1 year
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technically wasn't tagged but a couple of mutuals said if i hadn't been tagged to count myself tagged when they did this so here i go!
Rules: post the top 5 works you’re most proud of that you released in 2022 (not necessarily your most popular), your top 4 current WIPs that you’re excited to release in the new year, your top 3 biggest improvements in your writing over the past year, your top 2 resolutions (ways you wish to improve your writing/blog) for the new year, and your number 1 favorite line you’ve written this year!
5 works you're most proud of
Clandestine Meetings: my first fic in the fandom (and a smutty one lol) i wrote this because i was feeling frustrated that at the time there weren't a lot of pwps that i wanted to read so i did what every writer did and wrote one myself. and thus began my schitt's creek fanfic writer journey!
Sunshine: a little drabble about the first time patrick calls david sunshine. i found it kinda weird that the show did this one off pet name patrick gave for david in one episode and then kind of dropped it unlike with david's honeys for patrick and i wanted to figure out that sunshine came to be and this is what happened
Drabble Life 2022: i loved doing these fun challenges every week and each time i got more and more into the character's voices so it was a win-win for me
A Lesson In Flirting: okay who doesn't love dumb, oblivious patrick? writing this 5+1 fic was a blast and having it been inspired and gifting it to @smallumbrella369 was even greater
Public Relations: okay, i know it's not completed yet, but i'm super proud to know that i can write an actual multichapter fic with a plot i find that amazing of me. also im super proud of making a trope slightly original (a fake dating that's actually fake dating and both of the fake daters falling in love with other people? come one who wouldn't want to read that?) so yeah, this one takes the cake
4 current wips:
my main focuses in my google docs are:
i have a hair salon owner david wip
a jewelry thief patrick wip
a lovers-exes-lovers wip based on noah reid's two songs never gonna get my love and false alarms that i lovingly call my richasshole!patrick au
and i have a kevin from work au that i have a rough idea of
3 biggest improvements in my writing:
so i've only started writing again this year so i think my improvements are kinda small but i will say:
description, i've been pretty shit at description and awesome at dialogue so i feel like i've been getting a lot better at describing how people are feeling/doing at the moment in the story
editing, before i never edit, now i sometimes edit which tbh is not much better but is still an improvement
i guess trying to relax with validation? like trying to reassure myself my fics don't have to immediately become number one hits and that there are people who do love them and overall i'm writing for me and that's all that matters in the end.
2 resolutions:
don't rush-my writing will get there when it gets there. and to not pressure myself into getting x thing done in like five minutes. slow and steady wins the race
again with the validation, i'm still learning to write for me and not for everyone else although it's still nice to know that people like my stuff, writing for me is most important
1 favorite line i've written:
I really like this line from chapter nine of public relations, which is when patrick and david get together.
"But kissing was still at the top of the list. Especially since every time he did kiss David, David would immediately give Patrick a crooked smile that always meant he was charmed by Patrick’s kisses. And who was Patrick to stop if it brought out that particular smile out of David? Patrick was only one man."
tagging all of the people who don't get tagged in things and want to be a part of the tagged games
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simmonsized · 2 years
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Hehe it’s okay, I expected that to happen since it just came out.
Anyway, wanna give us a Bro Strider relationship status update with people he has interacted with so far in this fic?
(WARNING FROM FUTURE ME: this post is VERY long. I'm SO sorry.)
LFKSFJ:IJF:OWIJW:O THE WAY YOU HAVE WORDED THIS IS SO FUNNY
i honesty don't know where to start with this guy LOL ummmm i will be honest we could be here literally all day. it's kind of hard to get into the idea of explaining this without stating exactly how far we've come but it really has come from "my god if only i could be alone for five fucking years wow what a world" to "my god if only i could be alone for five fucking seconds jesus christ" SO. not that much of an improvement but. an improvement!
i'm going to do this in bullet points slap-dashed real quick and dirty like bc there are SO many of them (<- second note from future me this was my hubris talking) (ps i got bro meta all mixed up in there i'm so sorry)
PREFACE: i think a lot of what comes across as "gentle" early bro strider stems from like, well u know all the fucked up shit with his soul, kind of slowly reanimating from Machine to Human Again, Dirk Strider (Bro Strider) with a Purpose, a single-minded idea of how things Have to Be, to a place where "i shouldn't be here i was supposed to be done and now i'm not sure how to proceed"
not to quote my own fic but this is a lot of our starting point:
"Your technique was a major shit show.” “Yeah, I’m starting to realize that now.” “Kinda surprising you didn’t realize it sooner.” It’s not, really. “Yeah, I--” He cuts himself off and you tense up, watch the lines of his shoulders for movement. “I don’t know.”
The point here was never, "Bro Strider is an Irredeemable Monster", but it was also never going to be "Bro Strider feels bad about what he did" because to start, he most definitely fucking doesn't. LOL. I think he saw the way he raised Dave as a necessity, and that it was the most logical path to follow, and that it never mattered if either of them liked it (i don't think bro liked much of anything back then, except for puppets lmao) because it was the path of least resistance with the highest likelihood for success. (I will not get into the way homestuck sets us up like it's a master-apprentice anime joke only to shit on people about it later, because i already made that whole post abt bro and dave and shit u know.) I see him very much the way we see early Dirk Strider, before his disaster with Jake, back when he really thought that pushing his friends to be their "Best Selves" was doing them a favor. Take that as you will.
From here we see Bro change from Before (purpose) to After (lack of purpose, no sense of self) and this influenced a lot of the way i ended up writing him. Which! basically he starts defaulting to how he raised Dave before training because he has. Absolutely no fucking clue how to handle Dave now that they're not strifing anymore, now that there's no game to train for. (Bro would rather he was not anything, anymore but. we won't get into that.)
ANYWAY
Dave(no-longer-a-sprite): a lot of their relationships started as ultra guilt-based on both ends. not from the past, but really just centering the part both of them played in Bro's death. i know we don't have canon proof of bro dying for davesprite but it's my world and i say he did bc it rly does make a weird amount of sense and follows my Guardian's Obligation to Keep Their Player Alive at All Costs. yes even doomed offshoots of their kid. ANYWAY. the two of them have benefited (yikes) from Dave's struggle with depression and his desperation not to let Bro's death be his fault (even though obviously it wasn't) and just their mutually weird "i was supposed to die but now i'm here. what do i do?" Dave didn't have the same revelation as Dave about all his shit with Bro, and he never had an outlet. He just internalized. But this also leads to our first apology! wow so early on and yet there are 50+ chapters that trail after it. It's almost like I believe that saying sorry is the first step or something! Basically their relationship went from revolving around death and a lack of purpose to the first kind of tentative, actual attempt at something of a familial relationship. I can't call Dave a trial run, because that's not fair, nor is it accurate, but Dave(sprite) is a more forgiving figure due to his isolation, and is more likely (not good) to forgive Bro his slip-ups than the other Dave. Also Dave says some alarming ass shit to him and I think that was probably something of a wake-up call for him, like a call to arms or somethin'. Basically, they are trying their best. Or I think they are! :)
Dave (not a sprite and never has been, this is why we call them apple and orange fellas): His relationship takes more effort and more time. Dave has a relationship with Dirk now, that is more positive than whatever he had with Bro (obviously) and it's not like he doesn't NEED Bro, because fuckssake they're still kids (you left a good ask about this but i forgot to answer because i'm a mess) and they need guardians but they're like. These two are the EPITOME of the concept of "you can love someone and want a relationship with them even if they hurt you so bad you can never forgive them." That is their baseline. It permeates every interaction. Dave is almost never not thinking about who Bro used to be, versus the way he's changed. He's jealous of Dave(sprite, for simplicity), he's jealous of Dirk, he's jealous of Old Dave, but he doesn't know how to ask for... whatever it is he wants! Not to mention Dave now has his own personal experience with Bro dying right in front of him, or preventing his death (sort of twice, i s'pose) and having a direct hand in that gave him a weird kind of catharsis, some kind of choice he never got to make as a thirteen-year old (and wouldn't have, anyway, as he confesses at some point). They are genuinely working some shit out. I just think it'll take more time.
Mom: Wow! His best friend from a past life where he was cruel and awful but also at one point may have had feelings and emotions and could have been a person but never so much as he wanted to be, and he's definitely jealous of her, and he also knows that she is imperfect, the same way all guardians tend towards a lack of perfection, but they balance each other out. They are both what I would call "opposite sides of the extreme" if u know what I mean. He is the most comfortable with her because he does not have to pretend, and does not have to be gentle, and she will take his shit because she wants to, and he doesn't want her to, but he can sort of.... She is the first person Bro Strider trusts again, I think. Or he wants to. I think he's just now starting to realize that maybe it's not all bullshit, when people believe in him.
Nanna Egbert (and Hass I spose): Resentment for a life that he was always supposed to leave vs the first adult who ever showed him kindness vs growing up mean and crooked vs the way that she forgives, so so easily, too easily. But he wants her to be proud of him but no he doesn't but yes he does. He would probably bend over backwards for Nanna to make her smile. He would also let Hass put him in a chokehold but only as long as it would take to fucking suplex him into a table. He would never admit to these residual attachments because they are all mixed up in who he used to be, and he doesn't know yet how to separate them from who he is trying to be now.
Dirk: I am not getting into my dirk vs bro vs dirk meta but it went from: This is just me and he is not a real person because he's me so who cares what i say to him -> He is me but now i see that he is also a person who reflects who i used to be and i don't like that -> i'm embarrassed -> I understand him and he understands me to a point and i REALLY don't like that -> beginning to see Dirk as his own person mixed up with "sometimes he's Dirk, sometimes he's you". Dirk meta. we could go all day.
Rose: I already made a whole post about Bro and Rose LOL. Rose wants something from Bro. Bro feels obligated because she's related to Roxy, but it's also maybe the first outside relationship where someone knows who he is from the start and still... appears to want to know him?
Roxy: Mom Lalonde Jr. Feels weirdly comfortable with her. Or at least less likely to snap at her. Thinks she's funny. Doesn't really know how to deal with kids sometimes but he tries, with her. She's kind of the only one (outside of u know).
Alpha Rose: Absolutely Not.
The other Guardians: Amused but tolerant. Annoyed but intrigued. Willing to put up with their bullshit from a sense of obligation he cannot explain and that frustrates him (it's just because they remind him of Nanna and Hass, he swears)
Alpha Dave (flavor: Pacific Cooler): Wow. We could be here for LITERALLY all day. No one has asked for my Bro vs Alpha Dave meta. I'd rather not get into it but alpha Dave was built as a reflection of Dave's worst traits but also as more of a direct parallel to Bro. They understand each other. They don't want to understand each other. Bro has basically gone from "wow who the FUCK is this douchebag it has been so long since i have met another adult who would probably kill someone without blinking" to "i guess he's okay." That is where we are, and doesn't that speak a thousand words.
Hal: It is not Hal's fault that their first interaction went so poorly. I know we don't talk about Cal as a juju but man fucked up ARquiussprite was all mixed up in there right. What the fuck. ANYWAY i think he has reached exasperation on a Dirkesian level with Hal, but also perhaps the beginnings of "oh he's a kid" and thus we have. Gestures to all of the black text in the new chapter. Bro thinks of himself as so far removed from the identity of "Dirk Strider" that he sometimes makes decisions other people would find "bad" and "not very good". Still, Hal is a kid. He knows Hal is a kid. He can kind of tell he's a lonely kid, even if he won't admit it (because Bro was a lonely kid, once upon a time.) I think he thinks Hal is annoying. Has no qualms about blocking him without a second thought. But he won't stop him from pestering him, either! :)
THIS IS UM. TOO LONG?????????????????? This is all i can think of i am sure i am missing someone but fuck me what a cast am i right.
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eisforeidolon · 1 year
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Jensen and Jared play the same prank with Misha and Alex, Ruth played the same prank with Misha and even said she wasn't even friends with M at the time, Jensen, Jared and Danneel have been friends for years, they're intimate enough to make any joke with M. another, some people like to create unnecessary drama. By the way, Jared's fans treated him like he was 10 years old, he's an adult like everyone there, there's a lot of hypocrisy in this fandom.
I don’t know. I thought it was just a friend busting balls. I mean Jared and Jensen have talked about how they pretty much did the same thing to Misha when he first showed up as a guest star. Which one could argue is worse behavior because Misha was new, and Danneel has been friends w/ Jared for a long time. It feels like making mountains out of molehills.
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I mean, I think that is absolutely the way Jensen intended the story to be heard and I really doubt anyone involved sees it in any other way than just joking around. From the way Jensen tells the story to the way the rest of the guests on stage react it's meant to be about just joking around.
However, we've seen J2+M make these kinds of jokes mutually about each other right in front of us for years. While they very well might, we don't have that kind of history with Danneel where the ribbing is clearly mutual. And hell, look at the way some fans still freak out about those! Heck, we've barely seen her interact with her husband that much, let alone any of the other people involved. So while we've been told they're all good friends, we really haven't seen it the same way. So if you hear Jensen relating what she said without being very aware of that context ... yeah, I get why it comes off badly. IIRC, J2 told a story previously about laughing at something she did awkwardly that day, and even just retelling that here would have made this come off a little more clearly as a mutual goofing around rather than making her sound like an actress who hadn't worked in years telling the long-term leads of a show how to do their jobs, which is yikes even if they are all close.
Do I think people are wayyyy overreacting in kind of skeevy ways including the typical infantilization of Jared? Oh yes. Did I myself cringe at the story? Also yes.
As to the comparison of this to the story of Misha's first day? J2 were talking about them saying to each other, not Misha, that he came off weird and intense, not them questioning his acting to his face. That's a pretty crucial difference there, as large as having previous friendships or not.
Transcribing the particular story from Vancon 2022 for context below.
Question: My question for Jensen is, we know you worked with Danneel on Ten Inch Hero [...] what is the biggest difference - or in what way was it different - acting with her again when she was on the show?
Jensen: When she came on Supernatural? It was much like it is in the kitchen on a normal basis. She calls out the fact that I'm not on my mark and she's like, 'Are you really gonna say it like that?' Yeah.
Mark S.: I'll believe it.
Jensen: Yeah, I'll be like [puts on exaggerated serious face] getting into my Dean thing and she's like, [makes disgusted face] 'Oh, why. What is [gestures], what are you doing?' And I'll be like, 'This is the how I ... this is the ... 15 years!' She's like, 'I know, but, really? Are we, is anybody believing the voice at this point?' And I'm like, 'You're kind of embarrassing me in front of my crew right now.' And she's like, 'You've been embarrassing yourself for 15 seasons [unintelligible]'. That's what it was like.
Misha: That's pretty spot on, by the way. I'm laughing because it's true.
Jensen: And that's why I love her because she keeps me honest. No, it was very much like working with anybody that you get along with in real life, it makes the work not work at all. It makes it fun. When you get to do that kind of stuff, and you get to play, and you get to find the nuance? And I think that's something that this show carried for 15 seasons in a way that I haven't seen - I haven't experienced anything like it. Every player got to really play. And so Danneel was like, 'Oh, this is what you guys do all day long. And I thought you were working.' That's what it was like.
Misha: It was great having her up on the show. It really was.
Jensen: Do you remember the first, her very first scene? Was the three of us, you, me, and Jared walk up, and it's outside that motel or something, and she's like, 'He's up there.' About Lucifer? And Jared comes in and like, comes in hot, he's like [exaggerated intensity] 'Where is he?!' And no joke, she did it to him, she goes [visibly pulls back] 'Oh. Is that how you're gonna do it?'
Misha: I remember that.
Jensen: Put him on his ass. Like, he was just like, '... what? huh?' Yeah, he came in a little hot in that moment. Listen, we all - we don't always hit home runs every take. And Danneel is a little bit of a, she's kind of a brutal honest kind of a person. She has a filter but just decides never to use it? In that moment I was so beaming with, like, pride and looking at people like, 'Haha, see what it feels like?'
Misha: See what it feels like? [fakes cringing away] Don't hit me!
Jensen: Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry! [also fakes cringing away] So that's what it's like.
Mark S.: Did he panic? Did he panic?
Jensen: There was a little shudder. 'Wha- what do ya mean?' She's like, 'Never mind.' And then for the rest of that whole scene he was like, trying to figure out how to do what he needed to do. I'm like, aw, she's playin dirty. She's a sniper, that one. Much like this one [points at Ruth], this one here.
Ruth: I would never!
Jensen: No, no you -
Ruth: I did say to Misha one time though, when we didn't know each other very well? He only just heard me [to Misha] You were doing a bit where you were possessed or something on the ground, I don't know what you were doing. And I said -
Jensen: I think that was just - I think he was on lunch.
Ruth: And I said, 'Oh. Is that the way you're gonna do that?' Do you remember?
Misha: Yes, yes, yes.
Ruth [???] friends.
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