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lt-kaollumn · 6 months
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spocktober day 16- meditation
list and concept by @rubbertplant and @spocksjuul
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captain-let-me-help · 3 months
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Nothing reminds me of Spock like "Wild Geese."
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hellweaver · 4 months
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Young vulcan comprehends The Way of Kolinahr on the plateau of Gol
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sporkandpringles · 2 years
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It’s pretty gay to seek kolinahr, actually. What emotions are you trying to purge? Your feelings for other men?
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dig-jules · 1 month
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who got that one picture of Spock in the original tmp kolinahr robes where he’s butt ass naked with a fishing net covered in beads on him I Need it
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Most romantic thing in the world to me actually would be if Spock went thru with kolinahr and everything went to plan and he was genuinely fine and comfortable with himself afterwards but he deeply regrets it still bc he realizes it wasn't logical to have gone through with it when he only did it to be accepted and there was nothing ever wrong with him, purging emotions isn't some superior state of being it's just a different mode of existence that is no more valuable than the former, and Jim's wellbeing is still very important to him as his t'hy'la bc mutual relationships are not the product of emotion they are a fundamentally important part of life whether u have feelings or not and Jim does have feelings and it was fucked up of him to damage them over his obsession with fitting in to Vulcan society, and a few weeks after he comes back he tells Jim he loves him softly while tryna calm him down from something and he's like no you fucking don't please dont say that to me it hurts more knowing you'd lie about it and Spock's like I'm not lying I do love you and Jim pulls himself up and looks him in the eyes like ok what does that mean and he goes I don't think it matters that I can't feel emotion anymore when I know what loving you felt like. It's in my core. If it can transcend life, actual material existence then why wouldn't it be able to transcend the emotion itself. Don't you think it's bigger than any of that. I love you because I know I do
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ibelieveinhomer · 2 years
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@casual-marriage-in-space I stole your post sorry
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celestialvoyeur · 4 months
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💛💙SPIRK FIC REC💙💛
Ooo this TOS fic was soooo gooood!
Spock undertakes the Kolinahr at Gol and while there he is psychically and emotionally abused by a lecherous Vulcan Master who manipulates and takes advantage of his sexual thoughts about Jim. After a while he falls ill and becomes completely paralysed, trapped in his own body with no way to communicate except when melded with.
Kirk and his crew become aware of their friends plight and race against the clock to try and discover what happened and how they can cure Spock. There are some great links to previous TOS episodes woven throughout the story.
This fic also has one of my favourite ever original characters. Prepare to completely fall in love with Staff Priest Soram of the Shi’Kahr Hospital. 🥰🖖
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theshadowrealmitself · 8 months
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Was trying to think of what the average human would think about kolinahr since there’s not really a human equivalent before I had the stray thought of “oh I guess the closest thing would be the hanahaki removal surgery” and I don’t know why but that made me burst out laughing
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trek-tracks · 2 years
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Vulcans at Kolinahr like
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lt-kaollumn · 6 months
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i feel like im breaking some secret tumblr rule showing my face but i can trust you guys? right? right?
Look i made a vulcan robe it took months of hand-sewing cause i dont have a sewing machine
hand embroidered! and then i met jonathan frakes at a convention! i got a picture with him but it’s Just For Me
based on spock’s kolinahr robes from the movies
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lt-cmdr-titties · 2 years
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lee correy - the abode of life - p 142
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p 143
i'm fucking vibrating rn i can't deal with these two
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thaern · 1 year
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Did somebody was going to tell me that after Jim's death, Spock tried and succeed to do the kolinahr after passing by a loss of emotional control by his death?
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ichayalovesyou · 2 years
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I thought of a “wonder” question while waiting for the lights and a/c to be restored. How do Vulcan monks handle going through Ponn Farr? I’ve always read that meditating won’t cut it. I’ve also thought that perhaps there are people who remedy the situation; don’t know if I read it or imagined it. Any ideas ?
Now that is a VERY interesting question.
I’m narrowing this down specifically to monks who practice Kolinahr. As we’ve got little to no information on any other major spiritual practices that present monkhood as an option.
Do Kolinahru Still Experience Pon Farr?
Is Arousal An Emotion?
Sexual drive, like the impulses of hunger, thirst, and sleep, are necessary in perpetuating one’s species in the most immediate terms. However, in Humans, while eating and hydrating and sleeping are life and death needs, sex is not.
Nor is it a universal desire in all Humans, individuals exist across a broad spectrum of libido, including none. Many aromantic individuals don’t experience romantic love. Many asexual individuals experience no libido. Many people on that spectrum experience varied or fluctuating experiences in both those aspects, but do not need sex or romance to live fulfilling lives.
We as an evolved species can choose to have sex only for pleasure without reproducing, or choose to reproduce, or choose not to have sex at all. Even in animals, one’s individual survival, food, water, shelter, takes precedent over libido, which the brain represses until those needs are met in many cases. After all, in species whose young cannot survive without their parents, those children must have a parent who is able to survive and provide survival for their young after they’re born.
Another truth about sexual attraction is that it cannot be untangled from emotion. Emotion plays a heavy role in what turns people on and off, in what people are aroused by, and in what makes them act upon that arousal. That particular impulse cannot be disentangled as purely a physical reaction or a purely emotional one.
For Vulcans, unlike us, this peculiar cocktail of emotional and physical reaction is a matter of life and death. Though Pon Farr is, canonically, not purely solved by sexual gratification.
What Exactly Is Pon Farr?
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As much as we love to say Pon Farr is “fuck or die” that is an oversimplification. Pon Farr is not a build up of “horniness” but rather a period of extreme emotional dysregulation within the Vulcan mind. Disregulation so strong that cannot easily be controlled by traditional means of meditation.
Like taking your ADHD medication while menstruating, the usual chemical balancing act does not work when you’re already disregulated by a natural biological cycle. It is not the inability to “get off” sexually that kills a Vulcan, it is the physical stress born from the emotional stress that kills them.
There’s a reason Spock didn’t just pair off with somebody to get rid of his Pon Farr. There’s a reason it had to be T’Pel, even just an facsimile of her, to free Tuvok of his Pon Farr. There’s a reason Vorik pursues B’Eleanna, someone he already cares about, when faced with his first Pon Farr. There’s a reason bondmates exist in Vulcan culture. Someone must know you, body and soul, to connect with you, to complete you, in order to effectively help you with Pon Farr.
Spock is so torn up about his tumultuous engagement with T’Pring, the Pon Farr almost kills him. Tuvok misses his wife so very badly it nearly kills him. Vorik, feeling that his betrothed/bondmate has abandoned him, had it not been for B’Eleanna, the stress would have killed him.
Pon Farr is kept at bay and in regulation by one of two extremely emotional acts. Reuniting (and often having intercourse) with someone they have an extremely strong emotional attachment to. Or, committing an act of extreme violence against someone they have strong emotional attachment to. Although hypothetically there is intense meditation that can resolve it, we have never seen it as the preferred method nor as a successful one.
In Spock & Vorik’s cases, it’s a little bit of both. Neither confrontation ended in sex, and both were primarily fueled by emotional need. Spock could not reconcile the dichotomy of his emotions toward Starfleet/Jim and T’Pring, which ultimately results in him (temporarily) murdering Jim. Vorik cannot reconcile his sense of abandonment and rejection regarding B’Eleanna, they have a violent confrontation over it that frees them both.
It is an emotional affair, “the price they pay for having no emotions the rest of the time” to quote a certain doctor. Which is why their evolutionary cousins the Romulans who choose to embrace emotion, no longer experience that vestige of their evolution. At least not nearly to the same disruptive degree that Vulcans do.
A Kolinahr Student’s Greatest Challenge: Love
We have met two different Vulcans who nearly became Kolinahru. Spock, who failed to complete his Kolinahr. Tuvok, who chose to deliberately abandon his Kolinahr. Both did not complete their training for the same reason, love.
Love and loneliness are the most complex and in all likelihood most difficult to shed emotions. Anyone who wants to (healthily, functionally) release all emotions and attachments from their personal life is going to have to do some serious work on themselves not to need to be loved, not to want to be wanted. Not everyone is going to, or is going to want to release that aspect of themselves.
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Tuvok already knows himself well enough that when he meets T’Pel, he cannot complete Kolinahr, so he logically desists in his attempt. He willingly stops Kolinahr because he can see the emotions that his eventual wife and mother of his children provoke will keep him from succeeding. For now, he is comfortable, even contented with that reality. The sorrows and joys of having a family currently, and may forever, outweigh the achievement of becoming a Kolinahru.
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“One often meets his destiny on the path he takes to avoid it.” Spock attempts Kolinahr in order to essentially berid himself his connection to his friends, to Jim his t’hy’la in particular. However, to become Kolinahru you must understand why those emotions exist, examine them, abstract them, then release them in order for it to be effective. This is why Spock fails, he cannot release what he doesn’t understand. When he does finally understand “this simple feeling” he has for Jim, like Tuvok, he decides to abandon his Kolinahr as well.
How A True Kolinahru Defeats Pon Farr
Pon Farr is in all likelihood the greatest challenge any Kolinahr student faces. But, like their usual opponent, it is emotion and nothing more.
Kolinahr dismantles emotion, it takes away its bite, it’s visible, tangible affect on the person. You don’t master an emotion by repressing or ignoring it, you master it by questioning it. You embrace the emotion to understand it, once you understand it you can reason with it, once you can reason with it you can remove it’s affect on you.
Eventually the act of dismantling emotion becomes as reflexive as any other skillful control Vulcans canonically have over their autonomic reflexes. The same control that allows them to enter healing torpor or actively regulate their body temperature, even feign death.
If you master the emotional response through logic, you master the physical response through discipline, and not even Pon Farr could kill you. One cannot be destroyed by the same emotions that no longer dictate their actions to them.
It may be more difficult to manage and take longer to master than any other aspect of Kolinahr training. Kolinahr students who had or still have worldly connections may be forced to fall back on them early on to survive. But eventually Pon Farr is little more than training weights on an already enlightened mind. Until eventually one grows old enough they cease experiencing Pon Farr at all.
In conclusion, Kolinahr students may still fall prey to the whims of Pon Farr and must act accordingly, but Kolinahru do not.
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dig-jules · 1 month
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Spock not wanting to admit to anyone that he didn't actually do kolinahr and just coming back acting extra stiff and like at some point he has a panic attack and Jim's like woah ok and Spock goes yes I am not actually experiencing emotions such as fear my nervous system is just responding to old stimulus by making my heart race and my breathing shallow :| it is only slightly distracting :| but if you held me that would probably be beneficial because my heartbeat will sync up to yours :| purely in the physical sense :| and Jim's like fully aware that he's lying thru his teeth and has been for a while but hasn't found a way to get him to talk yet so he's like of course sweetheart does ur nervous system need to know that you're safe and I'm here and I love u
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