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skylar0808 · 2 years
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JunJun: *was about to have a scene so emotional that he had to vomit blood*
His lp: 🕺🕺🕺
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kgimv-cosplay · 9 months
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“若我不是来日无多,能似安吉四贤般与知己诗酒江湖,仗剑天涯,不务正业地了此余生,岂不甚好。”- 周子舒
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jeriafterdark · 2 years
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May 3, 2022 - 813 - the Reprise Part 8.1/? KEEP CALM and "ZZH"'s new video
Masterpost here
F*ck I have so much work to do but I feel it's necessary to make a post on this.
New video posted on his hacked instagram, check it for yourself.
Zhehanzi has posted an ENG subbed version here.
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All right, I will activate my research scientist brain for this. Although I'm out of the field now, I was an NSF Graduate Fellow (National Science Foundation) in the US and was lucky to receive valuable and advanced training in research science (biochemistry/structural biology) in undergrad and during my PhD in a few research universities, I think it's time to use this skill, my one logical brain cell left is for this moment >:(
As background, when looking at a problem, I will lead you through the steps that researchers will ask and take in order to solve a problem. I think in these times of emergency, it's important to force yourself out of your own shoes and look at the big picture, then zoom in on the details, separate yourself from the facts at hand, ONLY then can we actually start finding out what's happening.
For example, if we want to create a new vaccine for a disease, we ask, what is the problem at hand? An example answer, there is a new infectious disease and it's causing deaths in the population. Then we ask, what is the new virus? What is it made of, what is the outer envelope or shell made of? What do we ALREADY know? We compare it to similar viruses. We try to completely understand the virus inside and outside. Then when we have full knowledge of it, can we develop a strategy to combat it, i.e. creating a vaccine (its own long steps).
Let's try it with what happened with this video today.
What is the problem?
How did it happen? Why is it important?
Why did this information come out now? Is it believable? What is the method we should use to break this down? Do we need repeat trials in duplicate, triplicate and what are the statistically significant facts?
What can we conclude and how do we move forward in future directions? Why would someone fake this?
Follow the money.
Let's begin:
1 - What is the problem?
Facts: A video was posted on ZZH's instagram featuring his likeness and vocal affectations. An english subbed video is linked above. He discusses these issues ONLY: the cp fandom, his merchandise, his journey to learning poetry and guitar, and blaming/flaming people for his current state.
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2 - How did it happen? Why is it important?
There were three sources of "ZZH" - the WeChat profile of ZSJ (now gone), Li XueZheng Uncle Li (his weibo is now deleted), and this hacked instagram account.
The video was uploaded to his known-to be hacked instagram. We can glean that this instagram is hacked because of QuelleVous2 and various videos debunking each and every new post on his instagram. I, myself, have also made a post debunking the ZSJ (Zhang Sanjian) video that accidentally showed a portion of the guitarist's face/chin - this was posted on the ZSJ WeChat profile that is now deleted.
We know that ZZH's instagram was hacked because Xie Yihua, his ex music manager in 2021's son, Abner, liked to talk up his connections to famous people back then. He made a post saying that many people have access to ZZH's account, and the phone number linked to it isn't even ZZH's phone number. He didn't realize that people would be going through all his comments and posts to find out what he's said.
This is important because he has an ongoing legal case against CAPA. Anything that affects his image will affect public perception, will affect government perception, will thus AFFECT HIS CASE.
3 - Why did this information come out now? Is it believable?
Timing: Today is the fandom's happiest day, the anniversary of the Word of Honor / Shan He Ling concerts. It's also CPF's happiest days. The timing of this video is in itself, suspicious. Why post it today of all days? I have two answers: 1) To have maximum impact against ZZH/GJ's fandom and break CPF's hearts. 2) In having this maximum impact, it was either HIS OWN intention to do so, OR whoever orchestrated this video's intention to use their strongest weapon against us, and therefore, HIM.
Is it believable?
Deep Fakes exist. It uses computational AI to calculate and map out a person's facial features, and in doing so can manipulate those features into different expressions. AI is trained to do this by just going through large databases of human faces and expressions and slowly forms an algorithm that the user can manipulate. One can also do this with voices. Look at this famous deep fake of Tom cruise. I'm NOT saying it's a deep fake, because with sufficient technology, it's hard to actually TELL that it's a deep fake, it's just ONE possibility.
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2. Another example of someone using deep fake technology to play around with ZZH's face on a woman's body lol
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3i - What method should we use to break this down?
So the next question is, is the video authentic?
First, it could be a deep fake (like above).
Second, since sometimes we can't even believe our own eyes and ears in today's world of advanced technology, I have to rely on what I KNOW from previous years. Compare the data to known data sets, known circumstances.
Facts we know: From LXZ's audio interview, ZZH is very focused on gaining back his name and reputation and his fight against CAPA. This instagram video, however, mentions NOTHING about his case against CAPA. Which we know, for a FACT, that he's filing with the Beijing Police Department against CAPA. Uncle Li showed this. Who could possibly benefit from distracting us, the public, and fandom from CAPA SO MUCH? HM? WHO.
3ii - ZZH's vocal affectations are free-style, but not in this new video.
Also in this audio interview, and previous interviews if you've watched his, ZZH tends to make very deep statements in REAL time. So he's often just freethinking and word vomitting and sometimes it doesn't make sense. lol. He says "uh", "um", "and," a lot. Compared to the instagram video, that insta video is definitely scripted. He's very smooth here and it's like practiced lines, which is against his character to do so.
Just listen to his birthday live stream and compare it to the new insta video, it sounds noticeably different, you don't even need to know mandarin??
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Compare ZZH's audio interview with LXZ vs this new video, notice the difference? This is also AFTER the trauma of 813. Why would there be such a marked difference between when Uncle Li posted the video and now?
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ZZH himself said in interviews for SHL/WOH that he rarely read his lines before the day of filming, he liked to read them right before or the morning of so he could really get the feeling of what he's saying and not wear it out.
Conclusion so far: This "ZZH" is different from what we know. He's distracting from his own legal case. His speaking cadence is different. He's reading off of a script. It DOESN'T mean that it isn't him, but it casts a lot of doubt on the circumstances of this video, doesn't it?
What else do we know about ZZH? He hates making fans spend money on shit that's out of their comfort zones. He's apologized to fans for his albums costing them money. THIS IS ZZH. In this video, this "ZZH" is peddling his new merch, which is notoriously overpriced and costs a few bucks to make, but is charging like 10x the cost. It's also PROVEN TO BE REUSED DESIGNS from other idols that Xie Yihua has managed.
3iii - Xie Yihua's history: She's been known to have many failed/de-registered trademarks. She's been involved in a company with CAPA's president, and she's lost a lot of money and may be in bigtime debt $$$.
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Why would a person who is in massive debt want to suddenly start shilling merch for a cancelled idol? And that idol couldn't speak up or else it would jeopardize his legal case? And the fans are so desperate for his safety and well-being that they'd be fooled into purchasing these outlandishly priced items? Is this not too convenient a case for her to pass up? Free money to pay back her debts? It's certainly a possibility.
In most scandals, most cases, as you would know if you've lived in this world long enough, all you have to do is follow the money.
Follow the money: Let's not FORGET that Xie Yihua and her sister own 100% shares of the company that sells this "ZZH" / "ZSJ" merchandise. THIS IS A FACT. It's public information and listed, check QV's tweets for it. I don't have time to go find it rn. SO, if Xie Yihua is so indebt and attached to CAPA, is it not in her interest to distract us SO BADLY that ppl stop caring about CAPA? That ZZH truly loses his fans for good? That she can use him to make a quick buck to pay off her loan sharks and debtors? IT absolutely is. Always follow the money.
IF IT WERE TRULY HIM, why wouldn't this company be registered under ZZH or his mom? He's said so in interviews that he doesn't even look at his own bank account bc his mom handles all of that. He owes his mom so much, she gave up their house, her job, her life to make sure he succeeded as an actor. Of course he would give her and trust her with his money. It's not even illogical to make this leap, it's just fact?
Other items from this instagram have been debunked:
The handwritten letter was already debunked bc the handwriting style is different, the signature is TOTALLY different, the thumb is photoshopped, the shadows are unnatural. And this video mentions the fake letter as being real, so does it not cast doubt on the authenticity of the video itself? That it tries to make a fake letter real? Then what does it mean? The video itself seems fake, then. Just by the transitive property. A=B, B=C, therefore A=C. The letter is fake, so the account is fake. If the account is fake, the video is fake.
The guitar and phone-drop video was debunked by a sound engineer, and several other people lol.
The photoshoots were probably older and already been debunked. His necklace seemed to be photoshopped on because you could see the reflections in it that didn't reflect the buildings of the Forbidden City. His earrings were probably for promoting Ambush, could've been an endorsement that didn't go through. Also on Bluebirdmuppet's twitter or QV's, go check it.
3 iv - ZZH's character as we know it is different from what this video shows
In an unofficially published set of interviews, ZZH talked about his motivations as an actor and career goals. It was pre-813, last year. He talks about having responsibility to criticism, to shaking off the bad feedback, to focus on moving forward.
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This ZZH is consistent with the LXZ Zhang Zhehan. He takes all the hits on the chin, he picks himself back up, he believes in procedural justice, he takes things slowly, and life slowly. He doesn't jeopardize his own case even when his whole world was shutting down in 813. SO why speak up now? He wouldn't. The timing is for MAXIMUM hurt for us, the CPF's. The fandom that Xie Yihua has been trying to break up. The fandom who loves Gong Jun, who Xie Yihua hates, and has been actively goading her ZSJ stans to attack. The Gong Jun who has had to endure cyberviolence the past couple of weeks, who had his private information leaked.
ZZH's character isn't one to point and blame, if he doesn't like you, he just won't listen to you, but he won't call you out on it. He's said so, if the fans want him to do something, he won't listen, he just does whatever and if you like it, you like it, he's not gonna go after you for it. He's a grown man who has real shit to deal with? Not fandom disputes all the time.
3v - Do we need repeated trials of his character? How do we compare this version with previous? How many instances do we need?
If you can't trust your eyes and ears, and you need more information, rely on information that's already been confirmed. On facts that are already out there. In science, if a new virus emerges, we immediately compare it to what we know, what DNA/RNA sequences does it have in common with other viruses? What protein structures? What infection mechanism is it using that's similar? This will guide us on how to analyze the new virus. It's the same here.
We know ZZH wouldn't goad his fans into fighting, wouldn't sell his merchandise vs getting on with his own legal case, wouldn't speak from a script instead of from the heart. These are valid conclusions based on his previous actions, interviews, interactions, and observations of personality. There are HUNDREDS if not thousands of instances that we can compare this ONE video from a DEBUNKED instagram account to. That's how many trials we have, how many repeated observations we've made.
This video is statistically insignificant compared to the literally boundless endless piles of evidence we have that this isn't "ZZH" as we know him.
4 - So then what? What can we conclude? How do we move forward?
So now that we've established the facts:
Follow the money: Xie Yihua is involved in many failed companies and trademarks, and may be in debt enough to manipulate an easy target (ZZH) and milking him and his fans out of their $$$. Why wouldn't his ZSJ merchandise be registered under him and his mother? And why do all proceeds go towards Xie Yihua and her sister?
ZZH's voice and vocal affectations are different from this instagram video, which may mean the video is scripted
ZZH's personality is calm and chill, even after 813 as shown during LXZ's audio interview with him about his case against CAPA
This new ZZH's personality is markedly different: cold, and harsh, and pointed. Especially at CP fans.
Deep fakes exist. It can mimic both faces and voices and bodies.
So the answer to, "Is this video authentic?" can be
1) No, it's not because of all the previous evidence listed above.
OR 2) Yes, it is, and he's being coerced into saying these things as we know how shadowy and corrupt c-ent actually is. His face does not look okay. He doesn't look healthy and happy.
OR 3) Yes, it is real, and he's a changed person, which is a conclusion that is easy to make at first glance, but does not benefit him AT ALL. It only serves to break up his fandoms, drain him of his support in the public eye, and distracts from his case against CAPA.
Point 1 is what I believe. Point 2 is possible. Point 3 is what I believe Xie Yihua and the minions behind the instagram account want us to believe. Point 3 easily knocks out all of her problems, doesn't it?
No one would be around to debunk her shit bc mostly CPF's do it or people who like both GJ and ZZH as individuals like QV/Blue. This shitshow will take over weibo and cause public opinion to turn back, after the leader of the justice for the people movement - Uncle Li - was deleted. It will cause a distraction against the real ZZH's legal case against CAPA. AND CAPA will be let off the hook because no one will be around to care anymore. See? In what way would point 3 make sense? He's actively advocating for his own social and legal suicide? No.
So how to move forward? The journey is the same. I still support him and his case to clear his name. I still support THEM and their love, which after hundreds if not thousands of interactions and so-called "candies" have already proven. This one video is NOT enough evidence to debunk thousands of things, although it may be the MOST emotionally provocative - as it is its intention to be.
Now I have to go do actual work now, I thank you for reading this far and hanging in there. Wait for the next days. I will update as I see fit.
Hold onto your rational brain cells, everyone
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umasou-tooj78 · 6 months
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In other news, Junjun definitely came 😊
A lil word play on the word "come"
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citrus1640 · 9 months
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i was scrolling throught my twitter profile and i came across that time when i posted these pictures so why not posting them on tumblr too.
cr.并蒂·1129x0511
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51129imherealways · 2 years
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ଘ(੭ˊ꒳ˋ)੭✧ more photos from BTS
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nancy-loveincamelot · 2 years
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《翘臀总裁和他的冤种保镖》《bodyguard 》
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fourseasonsfigs · 2 years
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Cooking Dog Jun and Mystery Flower Cat Zhe
Zhehan's figure was indeed a mystery blind box.
Here was the sales image, and then even the image on the box when you received it:
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The sales link stated that it was a mystery blind box single wife figure, and it would only be revealed at the end, don't ask, people. (you know people still asked 😄 )
The two figs were actually made by different sellers - you're going to see that more in posts to come, where different fig sellers collaborate with each other. It's a lot of fun! My Excel fig tracker spreadsheet gets a workout.
I love this set so much because I love the inspiration for it so much. Without further ado, here is one of my all time favorite pictures of Zhehan:
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File this in the dictionary under "Sunshine and Happiness" please.
Cabbage Cook Jun is from Junjun's stint on Chinese Restaurant Season 5.
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In the depths of my fig tracking spreadsheet I call these Cabbage Cook Jun and Mystery Laopo / Biergarten Han, but that's just me.
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LOOK at these rosy-cheeked cuties! Junjun's chef hat! Zhehan's little red scarf!
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The LITTLE TAILS. The leaf and flower HATS.
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(My husband says, I know you're doing something fig-related because you're just staring glazed-eyed whispering, cute, cuuuuuuuute)
Here's a better angle of their respective aprons:
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A little Easter egg to the fans here - Zhehan's apron says:
浪浪钉 啤酒
Làng làng dīng píjiǔ
Làng làng dīng (LLD) is the official CPF (couple fandom) name. Zhehan is serving up LLD beer!
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I bought both of these figures off of Xianyu, a Chinese secondary marketplace, since it pre-dated my ability/knowledge on how to buy these figures directly. The fan I bought this from put in this magnet, which was the purchase bonus with Flower Cat Zhe.
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Material: PVC
Fig Count: 30
Diorama Count: 3
Snowglobe Count: 1
Rating: Cute...cuuuuuuuuute
[link back to Master Fig Index for more posts]
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kgimv · 2 years
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Junzhe edit as gift for my friend 🥰
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wanderingcassandra · 2 years
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So I'm just shooting the shit here, but someone write some fanfic please where either
1)ZZH and GJ have agreed to this. Like, all this drama keeps ZZH on everyone's minds. So he makes a video denouncing their coupledom while there's all this "candy" out there showing they are. It keeps ppl wondering, right?
2) China is still a pretty homophobic society at large and the latest gov crackdowns on danmei and "sissy girls" show that officially it's getting to be more difficult for non-het people. What if ZZH is coerced into denouncing GJ and the CPFs as a condition for saving his career? He can become the poster boy for homophobia.
But look: even if one or both of them are gay, it would mean the end of their career if they came out. We all know that. So yeah, someone might suggest that just the presence of CPFs is offensive and makes people not want to help his case in this political climate. And so he tries to push CPFs away.
3) It was all fake to begin with. The flirting, the concert hug, the rumors, the RINGS! All manufactured for an active, engaged (ha) fandom. Like, this is the most cynical take I can think of, but it's a pretty corrupt industry so who knows?
(Yes I saw the video and he looks like shit and I am so sad. I want it to be fake too.)
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skylar0808 · 2 years
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Just GJ casually calling ZHH "Baobei".
Baobei means Baby and Babe in Chinese.
He said: Baby you have to say that line first.
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kgimv-cosplay · 3 months
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The only light you still might own is near you
Watch closely
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jeriafterdark · 2 years
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Part 4/4: GJ being loud and Married - The Ring Saga
Part One
Part Two
Part Three
The final part (whew), this has taken a lot longer than I expected lol. Here is our boy, GJ, flaunting that ring.
What if GJ just wears these rings for fun? or just for work? Is it a big deal?
Normally, GJ doesn't really wear rings to my knowledge. Also, he's very obvious about work commitments vs personal commitments. He doesn't really mesh the two? Here's an example.
When he was filming Dream Garden, he was given a cp ring as part of the prop for the scene. He actually waits til he's about to do the scene to put the ring on.
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And then when he's done with the scene, he immediately takes it off.
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He's a person with very strong personal boundaries, as you may have seen as he scooches away from almost everyone he meets lol. Esp during that Vogue event where he's just sitting there... thinking about his life, in the finest clothes, in the midst of a party of super stars. He's just like... nahhh, I'm gonna be on my phone kthx. This man literally just hiding at the bar.
2. Filming Chinese Restaurant
He also wore his ring during his filming of Chinese Restaurant. He actually cooked along with Zhou Ye, the actress for A-Xiang, along with a bunch of other people.
He's shown as putting his hand behind his back when he -just- gets picked up by the bus. We assume that he was taking off his ring here. His hand shows up as oddly.. blurry, as if someone took a photoshop smudge tool and tried to smudge out that ring on his ring finger again (remember part 2-3?)
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And then in the scenes where they're sitting around and chatting. You can see that he's HOLDING THAT RING AGAIN. He didn't even want to put it in his pocket lol.
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DO YOU SEE THAT EDGE ON THAT RING? IT'S NOT CIRCULAR? It's almost.. hexagon-shaped?!?!?!?! - foams at the mouth -
Here's some more images of him sitting around with that ring, he's such a playful puppy, look familiar?
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One final note, someone asked the Tasaki representatives to ID the rings that GJ/ZZH wore, and the rep actually said it's the same ring.
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^ I can't remember the tweet this was from, but it's from Amber's collection!
3. Recent appearance at Global Chinese Music on CCTV - Apr 23, 2022
People noticed that his recent appearance (on the same stage that two years ago, ZZH appeared on wearing white as well), he had a peculiar tan line on his ring finger.
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Bonus: ZZH still wore that ring in leaked pictures from a variety show he was filming before 813
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To conclude: This is the saga that destroyed my sanity, and caused me to dive face-first into every JunZhe/LLD candy there is. I firmly believe that if it weren't for this evidence, I may not have joined this part of the fandom at all lol. I just can't deny that it's clearly an attempt to hide the fact that they're connected/married/engaged. This including the deleted BTS of the WOH concert / WOH filming, where ZZH is always threatening to kiss GJ for various reasons?? You could be the most homophobic person in the entire world, and still can't deny this. C'mon now. (I joke).
If RPS makes you uncomfortable, of course you don't have to believe in it. Do what you wanna do. This is just some international fan's observations. I firmly believe that I'm supporting a real couple, not shipping a "cp." This is only ONE ASPECT of the evidence of their relationship, by the way lol. ONE ASPECT. And it took me FOUR PARTS. I just love them, I love how loyal and sweet GJ is. I love how defiant ZZH is. And I'm heartbroken about what happened to him. If anything, I just want those two to be able to walk out into the light again.
I'll be doing more series on JunZhe/LLD to try and convert all my saved materials into some organized content for this blog, thank you for joining me on this small recollection! I hope you had fun!
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umasou-tooj78 · 1 year
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HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ZHANG ZHEHAN AND GONGJUN. Many many many blessings! 💙❤
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citrus1640 · 10 months
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matchy matchy Junzhe
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51129imherealways · 2 years
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More bts 乁( • ω •乁)
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