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lit-in-thy-heart · 9 months
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i respect one (1) knight in le morte darthur and that knight is sir dinadan
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I am not going to lie, a highlight of malorydaily will be getting to read the scene where lancelot gets shot in the ass as a collective
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Confessions of a medievalist: I have never read Mallory’s Morte Darthur cover to cover.
So I now present to you things I didn’t realize about Morte Darthur chapter 1:
Kay was still “nourishing” and was handed off to another woman so his mother could “nourish”baby Arthur. Meaning he was not old enough to get weened. So Kay and Arthur’s age difference is smaller then the three years (as I had always assumed) and probably no more then one.
Sir Ector (Kay’s dad, Arthur’s foster dad) knew the king was giving him this baby and got a lot of rewards for it. Yet when Arthur pulled the sword he was shocked and confesses Arthur’s blood was of a higher status then he’d assumed. This leads me to believe that he thought he was Igraine’s child by her first husband and the king was just getting rid of him like he did with all of Igraine’s daughters (marrying them of and then putting the youngest in a nunnery)
Morgan is sent to a nunnery and then married off. Which seems odd to me. But I guess Uther just didn’t want to raise her until she was ready to be married off.
Oh and Uther goes and gets himself into a war two years after arthur is born. It seems to be implying that’s why he never went to go get him. Which makes sense…but I still don’t like this guy, he killed a woman’s husband to sleep with her, raped her, didn’t tell her the baby was his and left her stressing about it for a good while, sent all her children away. If Merlin’s gonna manipulate him on his deathbed to secure Arthur’s throne I am not gonna shed a tear over it.
It didn’t say Arthur was 15. It’s left quite vague. All we know is he’s older then two. Which, I sure hope so
Kay knows what the sword is the second he sees it. It’s Arthur who doesn’t. Kay immediately goes “oh I guess I’m king now” and goes to tell his dad but is completely willing to explain that Arthur found it and seems not to care that Arthur gets the crown.
Arthur swore as long as he lived he’d never let anyone but Kay be steward. Like that’s an oath he takes. Explains a lot about the Dutch tradition and why he never gets fired.
The aristocracy kept trying to delay his coronation. It’s kinda funny.
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dreamsrunfaster · 1 year
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hotspurpercy · 1 year
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i'm usually very suspicious of retellings, yet reading le morte darthur for class has got me thinking.... prettyhands...
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alchemylive · 1 year
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sorry but my saturday night is booked (snoozin)
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katabay · 9 months
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PERCEVAL THE UNHAPPY, THE MISERABLE, THE UNFORTUNATE, THE FISHER KING!
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Perceval, de Troyes (trans. Burton Raffel)
ALRIGHT alright. so previously I did an illustration that explained the premise of all this, that it's inspired by the narrative choices that Bresson made in his film Lancelot du Lac etc
to dive in more into it (because this is something like derivative fiction. I'm putting concepts into a blender and seeing what comes out of it): the setting is haunted by the previously existing narratives that started cannibalizing each other until it regurgitates itself into the more well known narrative beats, and something else about the invasive rot of christianity and empire mythmaking into settings. it's an intertextual haunting, if you will! and this scene takes place during the grail quest narrative, but the temptation of Perceval plays out differently.
in both Chretien (and Wolfram's) Perceval narratives, what 'wakes' Perceval up (in more ways than one. desire and self actualization in one go!) is seeing knights, something his mother tried hard to keep him from. so instead of the temptation of lust & etc in the Morte narrative taking the form of a lady, it takes the form of a knight. the temptation to renounce one's faith to serve something else remains.
so Perceval still stabs himself, but instead of continuing on the grail quest in the shadow of Galahad, he becomes the narrative's Fisher King because his earlier state of being as a the grail quest hero is creeping back into his marrow. it was waiting for an opening, and stabbing yourself in the thigh is one hell of a parallel!!!
that wound isn't going to heal buddy, and the state of the setting will now be reflected on your body. sure hope that Arthur hasn't like. corrupted the justice of the land or anything. that sure would suck for your overall health.
all the red in this sequence is because in de Troyes' Perceval, Perceval takes the armor of the Red Knight and becomes known as the Knight in Red.
and now for the citations, which I will try to order in a way that makes sense!
Seeing Knights For The First Time
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Perceval, de Troyes (trans. Burton Raffel)
The Temptation of Perceval
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Le Morte Darthur, Mallory (modernized by Baines)
The Fisher King, and Perceval The Unfortunate
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Perceval, de Troyes (trans. Burton Raffel)
On Perceval and Gender, etc.
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Clothes Make The Man: Parzival Dressed and Undressed, Michael D. Amey
On Wounds
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Wounded Masculinity: Injury and Gender in Sir Thomas Malory's Le Morte Darthur, Kenneth Hodges
The Red Knight
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Perceval, de Troyes (trans. Burton Raffel)
On Arthur and the Corruption of Justice
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The Failure of Justice, the Failure of Arthur, L.K. Bedwell
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valsansretovr · 2 years
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a fun thing abt me is that I will get drunk and I will start handing out my belongings
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simmyfrobby · 13 days
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maniculum · 5 months
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“Sir, then will I do it,” said Sir Lancelot.
“Also, sir, I charge you that you eat no flesh as long as you be in the quest of the Holy Grail, neither shall you drink wine, and that you hear mass daily and you may do it.”
Saw this passage in Le Morte Darthur, where a hermit is having Lancelot take some vows, and it struck me as odd. This is a holy man helping Lancelot on a holy quest for a holy relic and he’s just barred him from taking communion. No wine, no communion. And you’d think that engaging in church rituals would be encouraged on a quest of this nature, not banned.
“Ah,” you might say, “but transubstantiation*! The wine isn’t wine!”
Okay, sure. But if the wine is really blood, it follows that the bread is really flesh. And he can’t have that either, so he still can’t take communion. It gets you coming and going.
I want to see this guy’s hermitting license.
*a word which autocorrect believes is supposed to be “tea substance”
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lit-in-thy-heart · 10 months
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when you need a secret identity but creativity isn’t your forte:
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[ID: a cropped picture of a page from Book 8 ('Sir Tristram de Lyonesse') of Thomas Malory's Le Morte Darthur. The highlighted line, spoken by Sir Tristram in disguise in Ireland, reads: 'my name is Tramtrist'. End ID.]
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gellavonhamster · 5 months
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If one can set aside, for just a moment, the major objection that Christine de Pizan would have had to Isode’s and Guinevere’s adultery, it is worth observing how they both in fact possess many of the traits she believed made a good queen. Christine advises queens to gain support of powerful people, and both Isode and Guinevere appear to be politically adept, as they secure the support of allies: the barons defend Isode when she drinks from Morgan’s horn, and Guinevere reclaims support after the poisoned apple incident, re-establishing her allies in the roll call that signals her Maying expedition. Christine also promotes charity, and warns princesses not to overindulge in their wealth, one of the main ‘temptacions’ that can plague the rich; while the day-to-day accounting and practical affairs of a queen are rarely, if ever, recorded in romance, Isode demonstrates that she is no slave to wealth when she offers to live with Tristram in poverty, and Guinevere is willing to spend a small fortune on the recovery of Lancelot following his madness. Christine suggests that a sensible queen will ‘tendra discrete maniere meismement vers ceulx que elle saura bien qui ne l’aimeront pas, et qui aront envie sur elle’ [maintain a discreet bearing even towards those who do not like her very much, and who will be jealous of her]. While Christine warns against those who envy queens for their power rather than beauty, her advice might still work as a relevant backdrop for Malory’s two queens, who show no signs of jealousy at all despite being constantly compared to each other by their admirers. The solidarity of women in Le Morte Darthur is also extended between women of different social status: Isode has a good relationship with Brangwain, as well as Guinevere, again adhering to Christine’s advice for ladies, for she stresses the importance of having the favour ‘de tous les estaz de ses subgiez’ [of all the estates/classes of subjects], and, in particular, of ladies in waiting and female companions. While the French Iseut plots against her maid and contemplates killing her at one point, Malory omits this entire episode completely, strengthening my claim that his women may be positioned as much-needed models of civility and empathy for the envy-ridden knights.
— Women of Words in Le Morte Darthur: The Autonomy of Speech in Malory’s Female Characters by Siobhán M. Wyatt
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fruitageoforanges · 1 year
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loving each other won’t save us, but it won’t hurt either…
my two favourite underrated knights, sir urry and sir lavain. i was struck by how close they seem in the closing part of the morte, particularly how they stick by each other and lancelot as everything starts to unravel. thus, an imagined moment during the siege of joyous guard.
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paddymayne · 1 year
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i need u all to read this bit in le Morte Darthur where Lancelot sleeps in an empty bed and the knight whose house it is “““mistakes lancelot for his wife’”” and tries to sleep with him. and then they fight about it. culminating in the knight ‘yielding himself to lancelot’ which is a normal medieval way of saying surrender but like…sure
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joshym · 1 month
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le morte darthur progress update ? 🥹
this is where the word count is currently sitting, & i’d say there’s still around 5,000 to 7,000 more words yet to be written 🫣 the goal is to be finished by this weekend! 🤍
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but, i do have a little something in mind for a sneak peek tonight, if anyone is interested!
is that something you all would be interested in? 🫶🏻 lmk! 🤍
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malorydaily · 6 months
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[...] Women did have (and were expected to have) an interest in chivalry that could lead them in their reading to identify with knights rather than with ladies or to imagine the ladies as active in defense of their own interests. The tendency of romance to focus on battles between men and to present women as needing men’s help is a stylization of gender relations. While Armstrong is right that the Round Table oath does imagine women as vulnerable, that is not the only way available to medieval authors to represent women, and Malory has a number of female characters who have more complex and active chivalric roles. Active women were not automatically bad; assertive women were not automatically subversive.
Malory does of course include bad women within his text, but he includes good ones as well; and not to include bad women would have been either to dismiss women as so powerless as to lack the ability to do significant harm or as so idealized that they cease to be human. Lyones, Nyneve, both Elaines, Percivale’s sister, and others all come across as sympathetic women acting on their own interests.To dismiss some of these women as patriarchal tools because their actions advance the interests of men is unfair, for a woman that desires to be altruistic or political in the Morte Darthur would almost of necessity have to work with men. Likewise, to attribute to “patriarchal gynophobia” any woman’s act that contributes to the final collapse of Arthur’s realm seems overly simplistic; while women (Guinevere, Morgause) contribute to the final fall of the Round Table, so do men (Mordred, Gawain, Launcelot, Arthur).While Malory is not a modern feminist, neither is he a stereotypical medieval misogynist.
– Kenneth Hodges, Forging Chivalric Communities in Malory's Le Morte Darthur
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