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smolcinnamonchipmunk · 2 years

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Willingness

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(This contains MAJOR spoilers for Lesson 38 in Obey Me and the second ‘season’ of Obey Me in general (Lessons 20-40). Don’t read if you don’t want to be spoiled. Most of the dialogue for Solomon and Lucifer is basically ripped from the chapters script. This is mostly just focusing on how I, as MC, was kind of panicking on the other side of my screen and how I would feel in that situation.

Other warnings include self-blame, near major character death, near death experience, etc. Basically, psychological stuff and dark-ish themes.)

“We currently have no way to sever the ring… and your powers will continue to manifest in more and more destructive and predictable ways,” Solomon said. “Eventually, there will be no way to stop it at all. No way to stop the impact it has on the world, on all of us, and even on you yourself.”

I had just told Lucifer “Good night” after a day of hanging out only three minutes ago, how could everything devolve into this? This mess that already made the last week of amnesiac Lucifer worse. I’d been trying so, so, *so* hard to not beat myself up over it.

After all, it wasn’t *MY* fault that I was born with angel’s blood and I didn’t know making a pact with all seven brothers was something so outlandish. This whole week felt like one revelation after the other, from finding out that humans weren’t supposed to command demons - especially several at once without regard that they were the most POWERFUL demons - with as much apparent ease as I could to the fact that all three worlds were liable to being torn apart from my existence and actions. But, Solomon, Diavolo, and Simeon had a plan.

They were *supposed* to have a plan. Solomon was smart, he was thousands of years old like Diavolo and Simeon. As much as I didn’t like stepping back, there wasn’t much I could do aside from try to keep the brothers in high spirits while Solomon did his research. Which.. He did. The artifact just… wasn’t powerful enough.

“Well, but what if I break all of my pacts,” I asked after a few seconds, trying to think of alternatives. “Then I’ll sever off my magical connection to the Devildom at least, right?”

“That’s… not the same as severing the ring, I’m afraid. It doesn’t work that way, even if you did sever your pacts. It wouldn’t sever the ring. And -” Solomon firmed his voice ever so slightly to cut me off as I opened my mouth in confusion. “- while it’s true that severing the ring would void your pacts, it’s a side effect of severing the ring, not one of the causes. But, don’t worry, the story doesn’t end here, I have more to say.”

“Oh?” I perked up a bit, hoping that he’d say *something* positive, even though he’d started the conversation with ‘it’s all bad news’.

“Yes, it’s… clear that we weren’t going to be able to use the Night Dagger like we’d hoped. But, I couldn’t think of any other magic item that could potentially sever the ring, so I looked into whether or not it might be possible to restore the Night Dagger’s power. Which brings me to my second piece of bad news…”

Oh no… My stomach dropped, any relief or hope extinguishing with dread.

“What is it,” I urged cautiously, trying to temper my expectations.

Solomon sucked in a breath, obviously not happy to break any of this to me, before replying, “There is only one way to restore the Dagger’s power… It must be thrust into the body of a powerful demon, whose power it will absorb. I suppose that’s how it got it’s reputation as a dagger ‘with the power to kill even demons’...”

“Wait, what? You’re talking about *killing* a demon,” I asked, caught off guard. He had said *powerful* too, and as someone living in a house with the seven most powerful demons… I didn’t want to hear the rest of anything.

“Yes… and not just any demon,” Solomon seemed a little hesitant to continue, but did so without much waiting. “Lucifer, Acatar of Pride himself.”

“What,” my eyes widened in shock, my voice coming out in a borderline whisper.

“Lucifer, Avatar of Pride. Most powerful of the seven rulers of the underworld,” Solomon repeated, nailing the hammer home.

I almost recoiled physically, snapping, “I fucking heard you the first time, Solomon, I just…”

“For the Night Dagger to be restored, it must be used on a demon of Lucifer’s power,” Solomon was far calmer than I felt. Then again, he’d known this information and had more time to process it. “If we don’t take action, it’s likely that the ring will bring about the destruction of all three worlds, and there’s no guarantee the other brothers won’t be affected like Lucifer has as well… I’m not sure how long you’ll be able to hold out before you fall victim to it yourself. It comes down to the choice between Lucifer and all three worlds… One, or the other…”

Lucifer or the fate of all three realms… Mathematically and logically, I knew that it should be an easy choice. But I just… I…

“You have to act now, before it’s too late” Solomon’s voice caught me off guard, making me jolt. I blinked at him a bit, briefly wondering if my eyes were dry. “Listen carefully, Kat.”

Solomon practically seemed to produce the Night Dagger out of nothing, but I also wasn't paying too much attention to his hands until he took one of my hands and pressed the hilt of the Night Dagger into my palm while curling my fingers around it with his own.

"Solomon-?"

"You need to take this dagger, hold it as tight as you can, and thrust it straight into his chest," Solomon instructed, his hand tightening on my own over the Dagger before releasing, as though to make sure I wouldn't drop it once he drew away.

I could only stare at him for a second before turning my gaze down to the blade in my hand, the blade that was glowing faintly and had the power to kill *demons*. My hand didn't feel like my own, feeling like I was watching someone else's hand holding the Dagger. After a second or two of silence, or what felt like it, I began to whisper out, "S-Solomon, n-no, I-"

"Just kidding," his remark made my head snap up to look up at him in surprise. He smiled apologetically, though it was still sad. "I know you could never do that…"

"Wha- no shit, of course I couldn't," I snapped, thinking this was a very poor fucking joke for him to pull. "I feel like that goes without saying, Solomon!"

"I'm sorry, I didn't mean to make you angry," Solomon shifted his stance, closing himself off a bit by crossing his arms and sighing a little. "Kat… just like Diavolo puts the interests of the Devildom above all else, I feel the same about the Human World. Nothing is more important to me than its peace and stability."

I blinked a bit, deflating from my anger. My eyes searched over him as he spoke and took in his posture. He'd never divulged much to me about his past….

"I've spent countless years watching over the people of our world. It's my duty, as the "witty sorcerer", to make sure the lives and livelihoods are secure, for now and for the future. Therefore… If I have to sacrifice the life of a demon to do so, I'll do it without a moment's hesitation…

"Or, that's what I told myself," Solomon's smile became more sad as he watched me process what he'd just said. "That's what I thought I'd be able to do when I came back… but, you'd be angry with me if I did that, wouldn't you?..."

He gave me a couple seconds, probably waiting to see me burst angrily, snap at him and tell him 'Of fucking course!'. But, this felt far too serious for my normal snarkiness and "feisty" behavior. I was in shock.

"I can't stand the thought of making you upset," Solomon continued. "... the thought of you hating me… so, now I'm not quite sure what to do. What are we going to do, Kat?"

Solomon sighed while my brain looped in denial. Why was he asking me?! I didn't have any answers!

"If we don't do anything, we'll both end up dead," the sorcerer remarked, but at this point I wasn't sure if he was twisting the metaphorical knife in me or if he was just talking out loud. Either way, I jolted a bit at the statement.

"No," I said angrily, making him flinch a little in surprise. Defiance and anger laced my voice, refusing to let the others suffer for me. "There *has* to be another way. And we'll find it."

"Kat, I've already researched every possible avenue, every possible source I could think of," Solomon retorted calmly. He opened his mouth, ready to probably continue telling me that we were out of options. But, something caught his attention behind me, something that made him recoil a bit and quiet immediately.

Instinctively, I turned to see what it was and felt my face pale.

Lucifer stood in my doorway, quietly staring at Solomon and I as we discussed his potential death. A suffocating silence blanketed the room, only breaking when Solomon spoke next.

"Lucifer…"

"... I couldn't shake the feeling that something was going on that I wouldn't like," Lucifer slowly started, nudging the door enough that it was ajar compared to wide open. "So I came to see what was happening… is what you just said true?..."

"Yes…" Solomon frowned, somber. "... I'm sorry…"

Another uncomfortable silence fell, seconds ticking by. I wondered what Lucifer thought, how he felt at having just walked in on our conversation given the subject…

"I want to talk with Kat, alone," Lucifer said firmly, taking a few steps further into my room. A shudder of panic ran up my spine. "Solomon, go home."

Solomon jolted at the command, brow furrowing angrily as he replied, "Now hold on a second. I'm not going anywhere until we figure this out-."

"LEAVE," Lucifer's voice hardened, as did his demeanor a bit. He didn't look like he was going to budge on whatever he wanted to talk to me about. It wasn't anywhere near like when he was angry and about to turn into his demon form, but the steely anger was scary in its own right.

Solomon himself looked like he was ready to argue back, but closed his eyes for a moment to calm himself and relented, "Alright, fine.

"Kat, we'll continue this tomorrow," Solomon turned his attention to me intently and nodded in a small attempt to reassure me. "I'll stop by again and bring Diavolo and Barbatos as well."

He tried to give me another reassuring look as he walked to my door, glancing back at Lucifer. I followed his gaze and saw Lucifer staring at him to make sure he left the room. The door clicked behind Solomon as he left Lucifer and I alone.

Desperate, I couldn't stop myself from blurting out after a second or two of trying to contain my panic, "L-Lucifer, don't worry. We're.. We're *going* to find another way. When Solomon comes back tomorrow, we-!"

Lucifer raised a hand to stop me and I felt my eyes sting, felt a tear or two well up.

"I may have lost my memory," he said quietly, but his voice didn't waver. Not like mine did. "... but you and my brothers are still dear to me. That feeling has remained… Even now, I want to protect all of you. So, if my power is what it takes to ensure you're all safe, then take it."

"Wha-" No, no, we still had *time*, we had to have time. "Lucifer!"

"Without this blade," Lucifer stepped closer, gesturing to the Dagger in my hand that I’d forgotten I was holding. "Without this Night Dagger, it's possible that you'll end up getting hurt, right? So, it's okay, Kat. If it means saving all of your lives, then it’s worth it. Now, take the dagger, point it at my chest, and thrust forward as hard as you can."

“... L-Lucifer,” I choked out after a few seconds of silence, my throat threatening to close under the myriad of emotions flooding over me and my hand shaking around the Dagger as I resisted the urge to just throw it to the side.”I-I can’t just do that.”

“This… feels familiar, almost like we’ve been here before,” Lucifer mused, catching me off guard. “You holding a dagger, looking very upset.”

“What?”

“Have we acted this out before, like in a play or something,” he asked, tilting his head a little as he waited for confirmation.

“Th-That’s what you’re remembering,” I couldn’t help the laugh of disbelief that bubbled up in my chest, forcing the tears welled up in my eyes to fall slowly. “The fucking play?”

“Kat, look at it this way,” Lucifer had a small smile on his face. I wasn’t sure whether it was at seeing me laugh or at getting his confirmation. He took another step closer, within striking distance. “You just have to do what you did then, this isn’t any different.”

“Lucifer, this isn’t the same thing,” I hissed out, trying to retain the distance between us but he just walked closer and carefully grabbed my wrist before I could back away further. It was gentle, but firm enough that I couldn’t squirm away. Terrified that he’d take the dagger and stab himself, I tightened my grip as I said, “Lucifer, let go.”

He just chuckled a bit sadly, moving his fingers. But, instead of prying my fingers open to take the Night Dagger, he used both of his hands to make me hold the dagger in both hands and kept his own over them. “Just think of the play.”

I watched, mortified, as he began to guide my hands into position, pointing the dagger at his own chest. Immediately, I began to protest and try to fight against it, my hands and arms shaking in his collected hold that offered no resistance. “L-Lucifer, stop. This isn’t anything like that, we can.. We can do something else…”

“It’s either me or everything else,” Lucifer said, trying to convince me to stop fighting him.

I could feel his hands tense over my own, my mind racing over potential options or ways to convince *him*. But, he seemed dead set on his decision. But, a cold wash of clarity stilled everything for me, my eyes widening.

The phenomena between the three realms was because of *me*. Lucifer lost his memory because of *me*, and everyone else was in danger because of *me*. A thought that had crossed my mind briefly throughout the week surfaced once more in full-force as Lucifer’s actions kicked in my fight or flight instinct.

I felt Lucifer’s hands brace to shove my own upwards to plunge to dagger into his chest and jolted. Spurred by adrenaline and taking advantage of the fact that he was ready to force me to keep going and probably wasn’t ready for me to change direction, I jerked my hands in his hold and pointed the Night Dagger towards my own chest. Closing my eyes, I braced for the sharp pain and ignored Lucifer’s cry of “Kat, NO!”.

It took a moment for me to realize that there was no pain, blinking my eyes open from holding them shut so tight that I saw colors. Simeon’s hand was placed over Lucifer’s and mine, holding the Dagger in place. I stared in surprise before looking up at the angel, seeing Lucifer was also caught off guard at his sudden appearance.

“Don’t worry, there’s no need for that,” Simeon said, giving a soft smile. “I can’t imagine how difficult this has been for you. But, I have something here you should have.”

The angel used both Lucifer’s and my shock to carefully take Lucifer’s hands off my own, prying one of mine off of the Night Dagger to slip a ring onto one of my fingers. The ring practically emitted warmth and suddenly I got a brief feeling of it traveling up my arm, only able to suck in a startled breath before my vision suddenly turned white.

I expected to wake up, probably knocked unconscious for an indeterminate amount of time. But, I was aware of this white void, and I could feel myself within it. Where the fuck was I?

“Hello there, Kat,” a voice echoed around me. Or maybe it was in my head, it was difficult to tell. Either way, a sigh *rattled* through me before it continued. “Here I am, finally getting to talk to you, and it had to be a situation like this… Can you hear me, Kat?”

“Who the fuck are you and where am I,” I demanded nervously.

“Ah, that’s right. You haven’t actually met me, have you,” the voice asked. “Don’t worry, I’m a friend.”

I mean, that’s something an entity that wanted to fuck around with me would say, but I was too tired to be hyper-critical of the sudden voice and void around me. I had questions, but the voice spoke again before I could. Because why not?

“Do you remember what happened before you ended up here?”

I stiffened, very much remembering what happened, and asked, “Where’s Lucifer? What happened to him?”

“Don’t worry, he’s safe,” the voice reassured me, making me sigh in relief. As long as it was telling the truth. “You pointed the Night Blade at yourself. Could you tell me why you did that?”

“To sever the ring, of course,” I answered, frowning. What was this, a test?

The voice was quiet for a couple seconds before speaking again, sounding solemn and upset, “... So, you were willing to sacrifice your own life and save Lucifer, the three worlds, and everything in them?... Not so long ago, you were an ordinary human, and to think that you were forced to make such a heart-wrenching decision… I’m sorry…”

The genuine sadness in the voice’s… well, voice, caught me off guard. But, not as much as the voice continuing to say, “I must admit that I’m jealous of you, Kat.”

“Wha- jealous?!” I jolted in surprise, feeling a bit of irritation creep up. What the fuck was it jealous of?! Having to choose between killing itself or one of its best friends? Jealous of me almost being forced to stab my friend?

“Yes. I wish I could have been more like you. I loved Lucifer and his brothers, and I lost them. Maybe things could have been different…”

Oh…. Was this… was this Micheal? Or maybe someone else that had known the brothers before they’d fallen. I debated giving my condolences.

All right, I’ve heard all I needed to hear,” the voice interrupted my thoughts. “I’d better go ahead and send you back now. It looks like Lucifer and the others are worried about you. I pray for your happiness and well-being. From now on, that ring will help protect you. Considering how much Lucifer and his brothers adore you, I assumed you’d turn into a well and truly wicked person, bit it seems I was worried over nothing. Until we meet again, Kat.

“May you be blessed with joy and good fortune.”

“Huh,” I exclaimed in surprise. “Wait- You still didn’t tell me who you are!”

The voice didn’t reply and everything suddenly went dark. But, with that darkness came an awareness of my limbs and some yelling that started muffled that quickly became louder.

"... Kat. Kat! Kat!"

I gasped awake, jolting up into a sitting position and almost headbutting the demon currently kneeled by my side. Panting a bit, I looked towards Lucifer, taking in his very not stabbed appearance. He was looking at me with a bit of surprise, but I didn't care, immediately placing my hands on his face.

"Oh thank fucking God you're okay," I exclaimed, looking for any potential damage.

"Funnily enough, I was going to say something similar," Lucifer said, his surprised expression turning into a soft smile. Carefully, he pulled my hands away from his face and looked mine over, asking, "*Are* you okay?"

My smile widened a bit and my eyes stung as more tears welled up, my voice cracking as I shakily replied, "... I-I don't know."

#shall we vore #non vore #obey me #cinnwrites #lesson 38

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hecate-spawn · 2 years

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y'all I'm on lesson 38, so first of all spoilers for that lesson

Second of all Solomon just straight up told me

"mkay so you gotta kill Lucifer or everyone is fucked cuz the damn dagger won't work"

And I'm also playing miitopia so it's just like "💀bro. You can't leave me on a cliffhanger like that"

#shall we date obey me #obey me one master to rule them all #Sucks cuz I'm low on grimm and can't level up my cards 💀#And low on devil points so I can't hoard glow sticks as much #Lesson 38

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inhuman-obey-me · 4 months

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The Authoritarianism of "Father's" Celestial Realm (NB Season 2)

OKAY, life got crazy for a while, but we're finally all caught up on Nightbringer's main story, and PHEW we've got some things to talk about. So let's dive right in, starting with one of our favorite topics:

God and the Celestial Realm actually kinda suck in the OM universe!!!

(spoilers up to NB lesson 38!)

Now, this been a consistent pattern for most of OM's story and lore, but we're going to be focusing here mostly on Lessons 37 and 38 in particular this time, because they had a lot to talk about in that regard.

In Lesson 37, we are introduced to the underworld, specifically Cocytus at the very bottom layer of it.

One interesting note, however, is that this region is territory of the Celestial Realm, despite it being geographically in the Devildom, and the Celestial Realm is the one that doles out punishments relating to it -- usually. We'll dive more into that whole conspiracy in another post, but it's certainly an interesting geopolitical fact of the Three Realms.

As for the underworld itself, the idea of multiple layers of hell is a common one which originates from Dante's Inferno, the first section of the Divine Comedy, and we see that Cocytus here is taken pretty directly from that as well. Just like Dante describes in the Divine Comedy, Simeon informs us that there are four regions that make up Cocytus, made up of four concentric circles of growing intensity according to their corresponding offenses. Specifically, each layer of Cocytus is related to a type of betrayal: of family, of homeland, of guests, and finally, as the very worst type of betrayal, of "him".

The design of that is immediately very telling about how the Celestial Realm views these offenses. Other offenses may land a person in the underworld in general, but these specific types of betrayal are the worst. And among those worsts, betraying God is the ultimate offense, absolutely beyond anything else one could ever do.

Now, these levels of Cocytus almost directly match Dante's Inferno take on them -- with one major, interesting distinction. In the Divine Comedy, Judecca is for "traitors to masters and benefactors." In OM, it is traitors to "him." Considering that the rest of the levels are a direct match, this suggests that, in OM, their father is the master who must never be betrayed.

And as Mammon notes, that's exactly what our beloved demon brothers did, with Lucifer in the lead.

That brings us to the present situation, with Lucifer chained and suffering at the very center of the bottom of the underworld. The worst of the worst offenders.

Simeon, Luke, and MC arrive to find Lucifer in a screaming rage, noting that same fact. Lucifer is in such pain and rage that he's creating dangerously massive gusts of wind, and as he worries about MC and then his brothers, it only gets worse. Suddenly, Raphael appears to read Lucifer his charges. And then, we get this conversation:

There's a lot going on there, but to go piece by piece, Luke is obviously distraught upon hearing the brothers' decreed fate. He wants to protest it and argue against it. Simeon stops him because Luke absolutely must not say another word -- as a reminder, arguing against Lilith's punishment was the catalyst for the whole rebellion that ensued, which is the entire reason Lucifer is being punished like this now!

Simeon, however, has recently been demoted. We know he was a seraph at the time of the rebellion; the official Nightbringer website specifies that he was demoted for "covering for" the brothers, though we don't know the specifics of what happened there. Simeon has always been a little daring on speaking truth to power, and considering he's already been demoted, it seems he's willing to take the potential consequence of speaking up again here. So he does, expressing his questions and concerns about the whole situation going on. And, finally, he calls out Raphael on also feeling the same as he and Luke both do.

It is perhaps the most telling moment we've gotten to date of how Raphael has felt about this whole civil war between the angels. In the past, he's been fairly consistently strict about the Celestial Realm's rules, which essentially boil down to always obeying their father, and Michael by extension. And he holds himself to basically the same standards, obediently doing whatever Michael tells him to even as he's disgruntled or frustrated by the myriad requests. But when it comes to seeing Lucifer punished this way, he can't accept it either. It's wrong, and he knows it.

But he can't question decisions that come from on high. Even doubting is considered wrong.

We've heard the same from Lucifer once before -- that he questioned one who was never to be questioned. That is what he has been punished for.

This is the reason Luke must not speak up. This is the reason Raphael is crying. And it's the reason for Lucifer's current punishment. Simeon, Lucifer, and Raphael all know it implicitly -- what comes from on high is absolute. Questioning is unacceptable. Doubts are unacceptable. And rebellion is unacceptable -- the absolute worst thing that someone can do.

Anyway, now throw all that out though, because apparently Lesson 38 wants to attempt to bring us to a completely different conclusion!

Let's be honest here -- OM is a bit jumpy on its writing sometimes, and sometimes makes wild left turns. But we ended Lesson 37 feeling pretty excited because it's revisiting a common theme we've had hinted at throughout both games about what kind of leader their father is and what kind of place the Celestial Realm really is under him. And what we've seen, generally, is this: it is a very strict place, unforgiving of those who step out of line, where their father's word is absolute, and even feeling doubt is a grave offense. We even know that Simeon's greatest fear is their father!

So imagine our shock and disappointment when Lesson 38 suddenly decides that, no, actually, this punishment and everything else is actually God's love for them. What?!

New theory: exactly one person on OM's writing team is actually super religious and keeps trying to make this game about dating demons into a message that God is good. These lessons were not written by the same person.

Lesson 38 starts with a rather chaotic scene -- Lucifer has broken free of his chains and is lashing out in rage and despair, not thinking straight. Diavolo makes his appearance and tries to subdue Lucifer, though the two end up going into an all-out brawl as Lucifer lashes out at Diavolo as well. MC eventually intervenes and the brothers show up to protect MC from both Lucifer's and Diavolo's attacks. Lucifer is taken aback seeing that his brothers are all okay and present in front of him, and as MC approaches him to further calm him down, the Ring of Light glows and Lucifer momentarily transforms into his angel form, inspiring awe from everyone around at the sight of the Morning Star once more.

Earlier, Lucifer was begging to be shown some kind of sign from his father, of what it was that he wanted from him. Simeon comments that this might be Father answering that call for a sign -- a sign of his love. Lucifer seems to accept this, though with some bewilderment. But we have Lucifer straight up tell MC later in the lesson that he "must have forgotten" that Father loved them all along! That all he ever did was give, and never ask for anything in return!

Except for blind, unwavering loyalty. Something that Lucifer has actually forgotten about in this moment.

For that matter, why does Simeon automatically assume it's this grand sign of their father's love?! He himself just stated his own doubts and called Raphael out on his.

It's a huge 180 that gave us some intense whiplash for sure. But this isn't the first time we've seen that more religious trauma view from Simeon; we've seen it before in OG season 4, where he has obviously been deeply affected by being demoted out of being an angel altogether but tries to reassure himself that their father does everything for a reason, "even this."

However, even aside from the very sudden turnaround, this explanation leaves a lot to be desired, because it doesn't actually answer anything!!!

We just got told that Raphael was crying from the cognitive dissonance of obeying orders to read the charges against Lucifer while feeling deep down in his heart of hearts that this is wrong. Luke has been stopped from saying anything that could be construed as going against their father! Even harboring doubts is wrong, but somehow we are supposed to suddenly believe that it's because their father loves them?

If that's God's love, it's sure sounding like God is an abusive helicopter parent, because that's not a healthy loving relationship.

Think about it -- this is a scene of punishment. Lucifer isn't just chilling down here for fun; he is actively in pain when we find him, and it only escalates his torment at the thought that his brothers are being punished similarly. And even as we are told that Little D. No. 1 couldn't take material form because their father "just loved them so much," is it really a healthy form of so-called love to hold on to a piece of Lucifer's soul without his knowledge, even after casting him out?! We wouldn't say that a parent who throws their own child out to be homeless while keeping their old room intact is a good, loving parent; why should we think this is any different?

Plus, this is the case for Lucifer -- but what about the other brothers? Though they all managed to get free, Cocytus itself seemed prepared to punish each of them for their various transgressions, and as Mammon points out, all of them were guilty of treason against their father. Yet, it's only Lucifer whose Little D. was never able to take form. It is Lucifer specifically who is targeted for this Cocytus punishment, and the others would likely have been left alone if not for the fact that they came to save him. Lucifer is the one who, for that one moment, regains his angel form.

And what does this mean, if this is God letting go of the last of his grip on Lucifer? That he still loved his favorite son but is casting him away for real now? We know Lucifer has said that God would never forgive him in particular, and though he's been accused of just being stubborn himself (and make no mistake, Lucifer certainly is also stubborn too), it does seem in line with everything else we've been shown about their father. Does this mean that their father no longer loves Lucifer, from this specific point onwards?

And, if their father loves them so much -- then why did they need to rebel for Lilith's sake? The implication here is truly bizarre: their father was going to obliterate Lilith entirely from all existence so that not even her soul would remain, but he also just loves Lucifer so much, but is also so authoritarian that Lucifer trying to talk it out with him was met with a complete shutdown so that Lucifer felt he had no other choice but to start the war. Of course, conveniently, this lesson also just chooses to completely disregard the whole Lilith thing, both her existence at all alongside the brothers before the war and her punishment, so apparently none of that matters!

It's completely out of line with the rest of everything we've ever really been told about the Celestial Realm, and frankly, we don't like or accept it. This so-called love that's suddenly used as the explanation in Lesson 38 isn't a true or healthy kind of love, and we don't want it.

So in conclusion: God is gaslighting us but he really does totally actually suck. We're just supposed to suddenly believe now, out of nowhere, that he doesn't. But he definitely, really does.

Anyway so, Lesson 37 is 10/10 and 38 is -10/10, would not read again. Merry Crisis!

#is this too spicy to post on xmas? sorry not sorry #enjoy yet another long essay from us #obey me #obey me!#obey me swd #obey me shall we date #omswd #obey me nightbringer #obey me nightbringer spoilers #omnb #obey me analysis #obey me lucifer #obey me celestial realm #obey me raphael #obey me simeon #always ready to fight god #obey me nb lesson 37 #obey me nb lesson 38

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yourlocalgrass · 2 months

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Does anyone know those memes where it goes like:

Evil [character name] be like: *The complete opposite of their whole personality*

This is the most satire thing I have ever made.

#It’s not like I have anger issues I swear I just didn’t expect a game I’ve been playing for so long to go THIS downhill #Im still salty about what they done to Lucifer in NB lesson 38 though #tryna let go still #obey me #obey me shall we date #obey me nightbringer #obey me swd #obey me nb #obmswd #obmnb #obey me lesson 38 #obey me lucifer

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misc-obeyme · 4 months

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So uh. Lesson 38. Man I swear it was just yesterday I was writing the post about Lesson 37?! Augh.

Okay, spoilers below, and be prepared 'cause it was another CRAZY CRAZY LESSON. No I didn't take another 100 screenshots why would you think that? Also I apologize, this is another rather unhinged post.

OKAY NEW THEORY.

"Father" is Nightbringer! Right?!? Tell me I'm not alone in thinking this might be the case!!

Okay, so maybe not, but we had so much Father talk this lesson!! Way more than any other, I'd say!

And I hated it?!?

Okay lemme backtrack a bit.

So, we got Lucifer in ice and chains and he's yelling at his Father saying what do you want, you never tell me anything, give me a sign!

And then he breaks out of his chains, but he's completely out of control! And then DIAVOLO shows up.

SIR. There is just something about Diavolo in full demon form, getting all angry and ready to fight... But I don't think I've ever seen Diavolo with an ominous aura like that?? I can't remember for sure, but I swear it doesn't happen too often. Anyway, he straight up fights with Lucifer to try to calm him down.

The girls are fighting! I didn't crop this bottom image as much as I usually do because I need you all to see how BIG these two are in their full demon forms like this. All those wings...

Note that the angels and MC are watching all of this from the sidelines... and then Simeon blesses MC and I am in love with him and his beautiful face.

YOU are the only one making me swoon at the moment though.

Anyway, then all the bros show up and save the day! I was like yeah, that checks out. Lucifer & Diavolo are going at it and MC tries to get in the way, but it's not enough until all the others show up, too. As soon as Lucifer sees his brothers are all right, he calms down.

Asmo suggests a hug and Lucifer AGREES. They have a group hug where Lucifer is clearly pulling everyone into it himself. He apologizes to MC (!!) and THEN as if all this wasn't enough, MC's ring starts to glow and Lucifer turns into his angel form!!

Once again uncropped so you can see this ridiculous mf and all his wings.

Diavolo is smitten.

And he kneels!!!!!!

He kneels to Lucifer in angel form!!!! And all the others do too!!!!!

I lost my goddamn mind at this part. And Lucifer's like I don't understand why is this happening? And Simeon is like, "he" heard you and this is your answer. He wants you to feel his love and his forgiveness and blah blah blah (I'm paraphrasing). But I need to tell you all this even though I don't normally go into this much detail and here is why.

FUCK THAT GUY.

This is "his" way of showing Lucifer that he loves him?!?!

Diavolo, get off your knees, you are not helping this situation!!!

Okay, okay, let me calm down.

Here is why this bothers me so much. And please note that this just my personal opinion and the way it all came off to me! I'm totally open to hearing other opinions on it.

I hate this because it makes no sense. This is the same Father that was going to kill Lilith, the same one who allowed the brothers and Lucifer, the one he supposedly loves so much, to fall in the first place.

I don't care if Michael is the one behind everything. If their Father guy can do this, then there's no way he couldn't also prevent all of this.

The only way I'm going to give him a chance at all is if they somehow make it so that he can't do much at all. He's trapped or something. Michael is truly the mastermind behind it all and Father is doing what he can from where he is (like imprisoned or something).

Because otherwise, this makes no sense.

AND WASN'T I RIGHT?? It turned out that the whole thing was orchestrated by the Celestial Realm AND the Devildom! The three worlds have an agreement - powerful beings can be imprisoned in Cocytus for their crimes if at least two representatives out of three agree. One from the Celestial Realm did. This was confirmed by Simeon, who went back briefly to ask Michael. However, Michael wouldn't tell him who did it.

NO. You can't be content with that! Michael obviously knows who it was!! So why would he protect them?? Or is he protecting himself?!?

And then someone from the Devildom did, too! But instead of just being like oh well, guess it's a mystery, Diavolo blames himself and says he's doing everything he can to find out who did it. My money is on the House of Lords.

So they were in cahoots, as I suspected!

Anyway, I just don't understand what all of this was supposed to accomplish for Lucifer's character. If they want to make us question the Celestial Realm, then yo I was already on that train! This whole situation certainly makes Michael look very suspicious. And Lucifer goes on and on later about how he must have forgotten about his father's love and blah blah. And I'm like what???

Also this whole part where Lucifer was dreaming or whatever and the brothers were angels:

Levi says "Our orders always come through Michael." That's the crux of this whole thing. We don't know enough about the state of "Father" to really know for sure.

Again, if it turns out that "Father" isn't terrible and somehow had no say in all the bad things that are happening and was truly trying to help Lucifer, then fine. I can accept that. But from where things are right now, it seems more like "Father" can't let Lucifer go and in this case, that's making things worse for Luci.

Do you really think giving Lucifer back his angel form long enough for everyone to be in awe and even make Diavolo kneel is somehow helping him? Because I disagree. Leave Lucifer alone already.

Though he then passes out and sleeps for quite a while.

And oh! Okay, here is my favorite part hee hee:

Obviously I squealed a lil when he showed up! They were all stuck in Cocytus and couldn't figure out how to get home. And someone was like "if only Barbatos could portal us home" and then this happened.

My knight in shining armor 😭

He's so practical. I'm in love with him.

Then we make a pact with Lucifer. AND THIS MOTHERFUCKER.

Flashbacks to the OG, anyone?? I guess he would still lie to himself like this, we are in the past after all. And I think he genuinely believes that MC is his at first. What a delusional simp he turns out to be, though, huh?

And then!!

Cocytus Hall is destroyed because of course it was named that due to being built on top of the entrance to Cocytus. What was the point of that exactly? Why wasn't it just Purgatory Hall from the start?? I don't know.

Hard Lesson:

Diavolo, Barbatos, Mephisto, and all the Little Ds are discussing the destruction of Cocytus Hall and that's when we find out they rebuild it into Purgatory Hall.

We also see Little D No 1 who makes an appearance for the first time. Barbatos says he wasn't able to maintain a physical form up until now. Diavolo speculates it's because their "Father" couldn't let Lucifer go before.

I do not understand this "Father" at all. I'm so confused about it and it's making me crazy (in case you couldn't tell).

Yeah, we got to make a pact with Lucifer. We got to kiss him. It's heavily implied we did some other stuff with him, too.

But this lesson was mostly about Father and his love and to me that all seemed to come out of freakin' nowhere. Especially since last I checked, it was Father who caused all of this bullshit to begin with???

I don't actually think "Father" is Nightbringer, but wouldn't that be interesting? Father of all demons is also the father of all angels? Why would they be different entities? Maybe they're two halves of the same whole? Maybe they're siblings?

I just don't know.

Yeah that's how I felt when Simeon and the angels were like okay see ya we're going back to the Celestial Realm! It's okay, Barb saved us. At least he seems to be chill about things.

And Solomon told the brothers he wasn't going to take MC back to the human world right away, so it's not the end yet. But can we go back now? I want to! I swear by now, I'd have confronted Barbatos because I think he knows what's going on and couldn't he just take me back to the present without all these other shenanigans? And make Solomon come back with me too, obviously. In fact, past!Barb can come too. You can never have too many Barbs!

Okay I'm devolving into nonsense. I just don't know how I feel about any of this. It's not making sense and I really hope that the next lesson clears some of this up for me.

#oof sorry once again this mostly unhinged ranting #I'm sure you're all used to that by now though #obey me #obey me nightbringer #obey me spoilers #obey me nightbringer spoilers #obey me lesson 38 #obey me nightbringer lesson 38 #obey me lucifer #obey me diavolo #obey me simeon #obey me barbatos #misc lesson recap #misc rambles

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pseudonymphomania · 4 months

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In Rage, the same. In Devotion, the same.

Based on NB LESSON 37 and LESSON 38.

#dialuci #obey me diavolo #obey me lucifer #diavolo x lucifer #obey me shall we date #obey me dialuci #obey me #fanart #obey me fanart #obey me nightbringer #obey me spoilers #lesson 37 and 38 #THE DIALUCIS ARE FED #im definitely going to change angry luci pose because everyone drew him in dragon ball z mode and i don't wanna be samesies #my safe art #my wips

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nocreativityfornames · 4 months

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I can't be the only one who felt super icky during the "God's love" moments in the new lesson, right?

Right...?

Was this supposed to be wholesome thing and this is just my religious trauma showing or did they meant to make us feel umcomfy? It's my brain cringing at the bad writing, I know it Because that felt SO off-putting to me, SPECIALLY coming from Lucifer.

Like...present Lucifer wouldn't be caught saying that shit ever 😅

So...is he okay? Did his head got mess up somehow? Or is he just having one of those classic daddy issues haver moment of “starting to trust my dad again just to be let down soon after” (oof--)

I mean.... s3 spoilers ahead!!!!!!>>>>>> God is literally his biggest fear in the present. Like, that's what the boogeyman takes form of when going up against him. His fucking dad.

What is going on right now?

#I've been loving these past few lessons #the brotherly love #mephisto being the mvp #diavolo showcasing how powerful he is #but this “god loves us” ordeal just threw me off so hard like WHAT #I physically cringed #you're telling me after EVERYTHING that happened that's the conclusion we come to??#yeah nahh I don't like that at all #obey me #omnb #obey me nightbringer #obey me shall we date #omswd #omnb lesson 38 #obey me nightbringer spoilers #☙ no creativity for names ✾

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solomiracle · 5 months

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HE BLUSHED HE BLUSHED HE BLUDHED HE BLUSHED BHE BLUDHED HE BLUSHWD HE BLUDHE. HE BLUDHED HE BLUSHWD HE BLUSHWC HE GOT CAUFHT OFF GUARD AND GOT FLUSTERED THIS IS SO CUTE

#lesson 38. greatest lesson ever made #from me #screens #sol #solomon obey me #obey me solomon

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messysketchyobeyme · 4 months

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Also, not to nitpick Lesson 38 or anything, but Lucifer should have cried.

#obey me #obey me nightbringer #nightbringer #nightbringer lesson 38 spoilers #nightbringer lesson 38 #I don’t think this is a spoiler btw #bc every lesson can be improved by Lucifer sobbing

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amberrskiies · 4 months

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Obey Me Nightbringer Lesson 38 spoilers!!!

… WHATDIDHESAAAYYY????? 🤯😱😰

#obey me #obey me shall we date #obey me nightbringer #obey me one master to rule them all #obey me nightbringer spoilers #nightbringer spoilers #obey me nightbringer lesson 38 spoilers

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journey-to-the-attic · 3 months

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just finished (nb) lesson 40, and not to tell the writers how to do their job, but lucifer should've cried in the hard mode story

#(putting aside the fact that i already think he should've cried in lesson 37/38)#obey me #obey me lucifer #also this ending was just anticlimactic in general??#feels like they've forgotten that they had a mystery set up with nightbringer #guys you can't keep dragging this out it's been two whole seasons #it's the what-happened-to-simeon mystery that they dragged on entirely too long all over again #at this point even the biggest reveal is going to feel trite #nightbringer spoilers

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krys-loves-otome · 8 days

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Stolen from Scummy's reblog because I wanted to do it too!

Note that most half-filled squares are ones that are technically true, but it's under specific circumstances and rules, will explain below

So, for now, some Blorbos from me:

-Intense in loves and passions (for Nobunaga, for MC once they get together, for trying to get Mitsuhide to take better care of himself, in his care for others, dude is just passionate for his loved ones!) -His love for Nobu and his interactions with Mitsuhide can get a little fruity, not gonna lie. -Technically orphan since we don't really hear much about his family aside from his poor upbringing and having to be a bum to get by until Nobu came into his life. Agas in discord has also told us about RL Hideyoshi and how much his mom loved Kennyo and I think that's funny to think about sometimes. -Frequently violent but only when it comes to protecting his loved ones. He thinks one of them is in trouble and the man will go feral trying to find a way to help them. Overall speaking, he's not particularly violent, I don't think though.

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-Nothing anyone says is gonna make me change my mind about this man being bisexual. Nope, not happening. -Technically a tragic backstory as he frequently does Team Oda's dirty work of spying and torture, but his tragic backstory is not quite to the extent that some other characters go through, like poverty, figure-headness, and killing a loved one.

-Technically frequently violent, but it's mostly in the pranks he pulls. Not ferally violent, in a sense. He's sneaky about his violent tendencies. You don't want to mess with his wife, after all. -Divorced? He's a double agent that always goes back to his ex (Team Oda).

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-Being an immortal vampire means you must have some complexities and that doesn't excuse you being fruity, monsieur. -Technically an orphan as I don't think we hear much about his birth family as we do Leonardo and Vlad. They're mentioned sometimes but no word on their current status as he tends to focus more on his found family. Until I get confirmed status, he's orphan status to me, thus why the creation of his found one. -Divorced from Vlad, duh.

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-Listen. Listen. Devon/batteryrose was onto something with shipping Nokto and Slivio. Plus, been thinking of finding ways of shipping my OC and him with Rio. Just something about Nokto and the Bentonite princes does something to my mind, okay?

-Technically an orphan after what happened to his and Licht's mom, plus the whole reason for the Belle procedure is because his dad died. Maybe it doesn't count because he was an adult when his dad died, but, technically speaking, both his parents are dead, so... -Murderer by technicality because of Blood-stained Roses Day (all the princes at the time were said to have participated, so, technically speaking). He also tried to poison some merchants for a business deal, so attempted murderer too, technically?

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-Have you seen this demon when his family is in danger (actual, perceived, or otherwise)? He will go absolutely bat-shit feral when his family is in danger! Once you're under his wings, nothing will stop him from going to the absolute limit and beyond for you.

-Technically divorced from the Celestial Realm because of Circumstances™️, not from a specific person.

-Also on a technicality, because of that... whole war with the Celestial Realm, so some angels were more than likely killed, right?

#krys talks #meme thingys #ikemen sengoku #ikemen vampire #ikemen prince #obey me #hideyoshi toyotomi #mitsuhide akechi #comte de saint germain (ikevamp)#nokto klein #lucifer (obey me)#some other things I didn't get around to talking about above #hideyoshi and mitsuhide are murderers by trade bc both are warlords so that's why that's colored in for both #hideyoshi may also be a frequent rule enforcer but he does soften up around some of them so technically a rule changer than a breaker #nokto having no friends is technically true as he has brothers and his faction isn't all buddy buddy like his twin's faction is #plus he does more business dealings while socializing but we don't really see anyone he really talks to about deep personal things until-#MC comes along #maybe to licht on occasion but they're more estranged currently so Nokto doesn't really have any close personal friends methinks #about Lucifer he is technically an enemy of god (who is his creator) and he went against him for his little sister #turning him back into his angel form and his dream back in NB 38 still sits wrong with me and I hope that gets addressed in future lessons #if it'd had just been bc of his ring reacting to him or something that would have been one thing but... still sits wrong with me #and thinking on it now still thinking if Lucifer is more of a rule breaker or a rule changer #his downfall was bc of rule breaking in the first place #and he's a rule enforcer bc of his brothers and their antics #but there are times he does soften up if he sees the rules are actually hurting his family #and change them because he knows first-hand what breaking hard rules does to a person #so as of nowadays #despite his rule-enforcer ways he does bend sometimes if the situation calls for it #those are my thoughts for this #feel free to discuss if you wanna

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