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hogwarts-is-my-wonderland · 3 years

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i don’t know if you know this (i’m guessing you don’t) but iron heart is already the superhero in the marvel comics who is kinda tony’s protege and who is also a black girl so it’s kinda weird that you took her superhero name and gave it to a white woman — but i’m guessing it was unintentional and you didn’t mean to

Hello, thank you so much for your interest. To anyone who read the above and wonders (I'm not popular, but it is very important for me to acknowledge it as a writer and for personal reasons), I'd like to address this in a serious manner. Warning, I'm a rambler so I'm going to build my answer with a lot of text. Before I officially throw myself in, I apologize to anyone whom I gave the wrong idea and ended up hurting or offending them in some way or another because of this.

So. Let's start with the facts (or my excuse, whichever one you prefer):

Robin Drake (my MCU OC) was conceived when Avengers: Age of Ultron came out, so that was like, 2015? I thought of calling her story Iron Heart (two words, not just the one) but with so many movies coming out one after the other, her storyline just kept building and it hasn't stepped out from Plot Bunny World. The "Iron Heart" title has stayed as a placeholder since.

In the meantime, Ironheart/Riri Williams (a black canonical character in the Marvel comics) was officially introduced in 2016 and she is Iron Man's successor. She's even got the A.I. version of Tony Stark as her number one supporter.

Having said this, I'd like to clear out that the OC, in no way, was ever intended to become Ironheart. NOT AT ALL. As a Mexican-American (raised in Mexico), I am very aware of white characters' appropriation of POC's storylines. Like OG Miles Morales' backstory key plots being taken by MCU Peter Parker. Or the original Captain Marvel, Monica Rambeau, having her debut and title stolen by Carol Danvers.

No, the "Iron Heart" part at the time was meant to represent Tony and Robin's relationship as siblings. Comic!Howard Stark had this credo: "Stark men are made of iron." It's a toxic sentence, one that sent Comic!Tony Stark spiraling down a path toward alcoholism; it was also intended to be incredibly misogynist from the get-go because of the nature of Comic!Howard's character (if you know your Marvel lore, you know what I mean).

The way I am developing (important keyword, by the way) Robin's story, this little sentence shapes her entire relationship with Tony, thus the Iron Heart part. The story is supposed to be about them. Not the Avengers, not SHIELD, not Thanos—them, the siblings who, because of the hand of fate, must deal with what life has thrown at them together; must deal with the legacy of not only being a Stark but also that of Iron Man and live with it as gracefully as they can. And believe it or not, Riri Williams, from the moment I read about her, became the endgame of this crazy story.

I want to ramble so, so much. This is a plot bunny that hasn't seen the light of day in any fanfiction site, a story that's still taking place and reshaping itself in my head every time I remember to because I want it to go down a different path from the MCU (yeah, an AU). The OC takes a lot from personal experience (mine, friends', family members'), so I haven't had the courage to even write the beginning (again, because it's personal and it feels like I'm revealing some harsh truths to myself) let alone think of a name for that first story (Iron Heart is meant to be the series name). It wasn't meant to be a serious or professional project (no fanfic is), but you Anon reminded me why it is.

First, let me tell you what I have planned so far for Robin Drake: she is a bastard child (conceived through an illicit affair) and a woman who could not finish her studies because of her limited resources. Not only that, she is just as smart as the Starks but her intellect is derided by people who think themselves superior to her (both men and women, including Tony Stark and some of the Avengers). And society has beaten down her wishes to succeed, so she is also disillusioned and frustrated but like all must, keeps going because she had the proper emotional support. She had a mom who loved her, a stepfather who taught her to stand up for herself, and friends who empathized with her.

Then she gets the one chance to become who she wants to be thanks to Tony Stark. Not because he is rich or because he becomes her "sponsor/daddy sugar/all-loving-brother" but because he sees her potential and challenges her to see beyond her closed mind and do something about it.

See the difference? Two completely different characters who happen to only have in common the words ‘iron heart’. So, to me, this a story of growth. Or it will be, once I get it into words, if ever. Though Robin gets an Iron Man armor (not the way you'd expect), she doesn't and never will become Ironheart. But like you, Anon, I wondered the same thing: by leaving that title, was I taking someone else's story? After years of thinking until I finally started to (tentatively) post about her here (and I was encouraged by many plot bunnies whom I would love to read about but must resort to wishful thinking), I think I reached a "no." It's an idea—still not set in stone. I am very open to taking off the Iron Heart part at any time, but until I start writing this down or think of a different name when imagining it, it will take me a while to change it.

If you read my whole ramble, thank you for taking your time. Thank you, Anon, for making me acknowledge this publicly (one never knows) and think about it more carefully. And again, I'm very sorry if I ended hurting or offending anyone because of this misconception. If you believe my explanation wasn't enough and I'm entirely in the wrong, I understand. I'm also open to receiving feedback of any sort (and I'm aware I could get some backlash) as long as it's constructive (i.e. I won't answer to unreasonable comments).

P.S. I want to keep posting about Robin Drake (the aforementioned OC). So I am going to take off the Iron Heart name and leave it as MCU Plot Bunny. I can't erase previous reblogs, so those will keep the name.

P.S. 2. If the text is an eyesore in your dash, please tell me so I add a Keep Reading line, I don't mind.

#IMPORTANT #TO ME #Is it bad that I'm kind of happy I got to answer this?#I'm also scared #This is serious so I wanted to acknowledge it as civilized as possible without coming off as aggressive or self-entitled #I don't think I managed it but again I wanted to discuss this and hopefully raise some awareness #help please #me answering some stuff #robin drake

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takaraphoenix · 5 years

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I wanna talk about the future of the MCU. Because the closer Avengers Infinity War 2: Thanos Yelling That The Avengers Gotta Get Off His Lawn Endgame is coming, the more often I hear cringy things like “recast”.

And. No. Just, such a huge no. If I have to live to see the day that another actor than RDJ portrays Tony Stark, I will burn down Marvel Studios. It’s not like they would have to retire the MCU just because the old actors’ contracts - and stories - end.

You want more Iron Person content? Give me a Riri Williams as Iron Heart movie. Give RDJ fun little cameos to maybe ease the transition. But... give me Riri Williams on the big screen.

You want to give another Hulk solo-movie a try? Give Amadeus Cho his time to shine - and hey, Helen Cho would be a great link there. Or, alternately you could go with She-Hulk. Or both.

You want to make a Hawkeye movie? I swear if you put old man Jeremy Renner in front of the screen one more time, I will revolt, seriously his character has been retired for years now. Give me Kate Bishop.

So we have reached a time where T’Challa’s story has been told and Chadwick Boseman is tired because it’s been five Black Panther movies? You know who’s younger than him, energetic and beloved by the fans? Letitia Wright. Put Shuri into the Black Panther suit.

And what with us introducing more aliens, how about America Chavez takes over the mantle of Captain America? No more powerful stance to the bullshit way current America handles immigration than having a literal alien immigrant, a woman of color no less, be the symbol of America. Because, seriously, the people speculating whether Bucky or Sam will become Cap... y’all realize they’re old too and that, in universe, that makes little sense for either? Because who would actually want a man who has worked as a brainwashed assassin for the fucking Nazis for seventy years to be the symbol of America...? And oh yeah, we out here in our world can meta the shit out of it and know Bucky’s journey, but if you were to live in that universe, you would not want that. Not to mention the part where good gods please let the boy rest he’s been through hell and back let’s not put the heavy weight of Steve’s legacy on his shoulders, let the man herd his goats in peace and be done with war ffs. And Sam makes little sense because he too has spent years now as a fugitive from the law.

Wait, we are now so far into the future that Tom Holland is too old and tired of playing Spider-Man? Time to finally dust off Miles Morales and put him into the suit on the big screen!

And hey, ten years from now Cassie Lang will be old enough to take over the mantle of the Wasp.

What I’m saying is: No, you don’t need to make the MCU so dependant on the past movies that every new viewer has to have seen 40 movies to understand the newest. Make a cut after Infinity War. You can make referrences to the movies of the past, in say the same extend the Defendersverse used to. Fun little cameos too, but... It’s time for a new dawn and new iterations of the heroes. Not new actors to play the very same roles.

The MCU is large and exciting and amazing. If you now, say, make another Doctor Strange movie still with Benedict Cumberbatch, but recast a new actor for Steve Rogers and reboot Captain America, then the whole MCU is going to fall apart. Give them legacies.

And, much more importantly than just “I am so fucking tired of seeing reboots of things that came out during my lifetime“ is the fact that... do you see what all of those suggestions have in common? They’re either women, or characters of color, or dear goodness women of color. The point being: They’re not all Straight White Men. And it’s due time to move on and give us movies with more diverse leads, because as Black Panther has proven, we really, really want them.

#Marvel #MCU #there is virtually NO REASON to reboot the MCU #there are SO MANY #iterations of those heroes #just move on #to the next one

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ty-talks-comics · 5 years

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Best of Marvel: Week of August 21st, 2019

Best of this Week: Tony Stark: Iron Man #15 (Legacy #615) - Dan Slott, Jim Zub, Juanan Ramirez, Francesco Manna, Edgar Delgado and Joe Caramagna

Tony Stark may not be the man he says he is anymore.

Since the landmark 600th issue of Iron Man, Tony Stark hasn’t been entirely sure that he is actually himself and not just a strange collection of nanobots and machines strung together in the form of the billionaire tech wizard. After the horrible incident surrounding eScape, Tony Stark’s virtual reality world, leads to the deaths of a few people and millions or more in property damage, Tony has to take the stand and address what exactly happened.

He’s grilled pretty thoroughly on what an AI is and how much was his responsibility vs. how much can be blamed on Controller, the supervillain who hacked into the supposedly secure network and caused all of this damage. Overseeing the hearing is a surprising character from another mechanical superheroes past. Senator Miles Brickman, a character that originally appeared as something of an anti-machine/anti-AI character in the pages of Machine Man’s original series, it livid and irate at Tony Stark. Showing a bit of prejudice in his questioning, he asks has Tony Stark ever made any changes to his body using technology, then follows by asking “Can you prove that you’re not some form of artificial intelligence?”

Tony initially tries to dance around the question, but upon being reminded that he’s under oath, reveals that it is actually quite possible as his body was put back together cell by cell while he was in his coma. This shocks everyone, from Rhodey to Bethany Cabe, his head of security at Stark Unlimited, and even his brother Arno Stark who is watching the hearing from his office at Baintronics, the rival technology company.

AI Tony calls for a recess after a few snarky lines as we cut to Vision and Wonder Man arriving at Avengers mansion, thinking they’ve been called to assist in Tony’s hearing. Immediately some red flags might want to be set off with the characters involved, especially when Jarvis lets them in and soon after betrays them with a large piece of metal embedded in the back of his head with a familiar design.

Things start to heat up as Brickman produces the Tony Stark AI that was used by Riri Williams while Tony was in a coma and asks does this fully functioning, autonomous copy have legal rights and responsibilities. What makes me so uncomfortable about this scene is that it plays on the fear of the unknown.

Brickman has tried to have Machine Man destroyed in the past and even knowing that Tony Stark has saved the world in the past, he’s not willing to consider that he still has right once it’s admitted that he may not be fully human anymore. In a way it mirrors some of our own discussions as it pertains to AI and whether or not we’ll allow them autonomy once they become advanced enough for it. There’s a whole discussion for sex robots that no one is qute ready for just yet.

The Wasp, Janet van Dyne, flies through a robot protest on her way to meet Tony for lunch and catches him talking to Tony AI. Tony AI agrees to be loaded into the Iron Man suit and they all fly off when suddenly they’re met with a gross amalgamation of Vision and Wonder Man fused together. Ramirez’s art makes him look so horrifying with only half of Wonder Man’s luxurious hair and cracking skin that’s as red as Vision’s. He rushes at Tony in a rage and promises to rip the human and AI halves of him apart, displaying an anger that neither character has ever presented.

In the middle of their fight, Jarvis appears and zaps Janet, who was knocked out of the fight during the initial rush. He places her in his pocket and leaves thereafter. Tony and WonderVision continue their fight, destroying the robot protestors in the process. Tony realizes that they only way to stop them is to use a localized EMP which will also kill Tony AI. The technological Tony isn’t fazed and just tells Tony to kiss Jan a bunch and feel vaguely bad about it later.

Unfortunately, this leaves Tony in the middle of the carnage. He’s surrounded by broken robots, likely to take the blame for all of it and realizes that Jocasta was right, he only sees everything as data. He breathes a small sigh that he’s still alive and that WonderVision didn’t take Janet… until he can’t find her. We then cut to the surprising return of The Avengers greatest enemy as his new gambit to destroy Tony Stark and spark a new machine age is in full effect.

What I liked most about this issue is that Tony’s mistakes really catch up to him in a bad way. He’s always managed to skate by the skin of his teeth when his machines have gone haywire. While Brickman was being an asshole for the trial, he made a good point in that we don’t quite know if we can trust this Tony. Given what we as the audience know thus far, he’s falling hard. Almost going back to the drink, questioning his own existence, not even having the trust of the brother that’s been by his side since his appearance in the mid 2000s (in this universe).

And that ending, finally seeing the seeds of what’s been sewn for months now starting to take form, is always fun. I had wondered what happened to this character since Infinity Wars (2018) and I can’t wait to see where exactly this story is going to go and what the repercussions of that event will be. I also can’t wait to see how exactly he’ll scar Tony and his extended family now that he’s returned. High recommend!

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Things were looking up for Otto Octavius. He had found a nice woman and was slowly falling in love, he had mended fences with Anna-Maria in a way. After the events of War of the Realms, he was a respected and loved hero in San Francisco and then it all came crashing down.

Runner Up: The Superior Spider-Man #10 (Legacy #43) - Christos Gage, Mike Hawthorne, Wade von Grawbadger, Jordie Bellaire and Clayton Cowles

After taking the lovely Emma on a swing through the city, The Spider-Man of San Francisco goes on to visit the child he saved all the way back in issue #4 and help his new adoptive parents get custody of him. These small moments of warmness are a far cry from the maniacal nature that we were once accustomed to from Octavius. Bellaire colors most these scenes in a nice, warm orange. Giving us this feeling of joy and some happiness for Otto… at least until he’s discussing having a child with Emma and she alerts him to the news report that asks if the SF Spider-Man is really Otto Octavius.

Things start to spiral even further as Spider-Man is interviewed and dances around the question and the Brothers Grimm acknowledge that he hired them for some temp work if they went straight, alluding to the first arc of the book. Otto is furious, Anna-Maria gives him snark and Emma tells him that he needs to face things head on, getting in front of it all. He can prove that he’s changed. Unfortunately, Anna-Maria brings up the kid as an example of someone who he’s helped and he swings to the apartment to find the foster parents angry and the child sad that he lied. Normally Otto wouldn't think twice about lying to someone or omitting information, but looking into that child's eyes as he began to cry, Otto reveals that he lied because he wanted the kid to like him and they hug.

Soon after, Otto is called back to Horizon University where he is known as Professor Tolliver. Max Modell is waiting for him as he's received an email telling him that Tolliver is actually Otto Octavius. Surprisingly to Otto, Max already knew. Max Modell may act like a goof, but he's not considered one of the brightest minds in Marvel for no reason. He ran a DNA test to confirm soon after his emergence and gave "Tolliver" a chance to prove himself a changed man and given that he has, he's been trying to help clear his name.

With Max's security footage and his own enhanced suit, Otto is able to determine that it was actually Spiders-Man that sent all of the incriminating data to everyone. Once Spiders-Man realizes he's caught, the thousands of spiders that make up his form reconstitute until Ock defeats him and compresses the former Peter Parker's consciousness into one Spider-Body. After some pushing, Spiders-Man reveals that it was Norman Osborn's idea. This Norman Osborn, however, is from another dimension where he's the Spider Totem and his main enemy was a Green Goblin Peter Parker, if I remember right.

Spiders-Man also tells Otto that Norman is in his own dimension, safe from harm. During the events of Spider-Geddon, the Web of Fate was destroyed, making dimensional travel much harder for Spider people. Octavius hits a wall until Anna-Maria comes out that she's saved a bit of Terrax's energy from the first arc in the Living Brain robot, in case Otto ever reverted. This makes him sink even lower, but ultimately he understands and tries to use the power to make a portal...only Norman planned for this and over loads the machine, causing it to destroy the building almost killing everyone inside if not for Otto.

Otto manages to save Max and Anna-Maria, but is swiftly defeated and left for dead by Norman who was there the entire time. When Otto asks why Norman is doing this, he responds in the most Norman Osborn way possible by saying, "You insulted me."

Just when Otto Octavius was finding his place in the world as a hero, forces mostly belong his control have made their move in an effort to derail him. Otto finally seems happy, even helping out a young child that he absolutely has no obligation to and starting a budding new relationship with an older woman that's just as smart as he. Things were going well, he even got a key to the city for crying out loud!

But, as fate befalls all Spiders, his terrible actions in the past are coming back to haunt him. Who's to say that Mephisto doesn't have a little bit of a hand in this as well? We can only hope things turn out well for Otto in the end, but not before Norman makes things much, much worse.

#comics #marvel #marvel comics #iron man #tony stark #janet van dyne #machine man #dan slott #jim zub #juanan ramirez #francesco manna #superior spider man #otto octavius #norman osborn #spiders man #christos gage #mike hawthorne

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columbuscomicscorner-blog · 7 years

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INVINCIBLE IRON HEART #10 **MINOR SPOILERS**

Writer: Brian Michael Bendis Artists: Stefano Caselli, Marte Gracia, Israel Silva, VC’s Clayton Cowles Cover Artists: Stefano Caselli, Marte Gracia Publisher: @marvelentertainment NCBD: 8/16/17 Review by: Ryan Douglas

Whether Riri Williams liked it or not, she just overthrew what was rubles of a government in Latveria. Sharon Carter with the fleet of S.H.I.E.L.D come to see the Pleasantville town Riri has created, it’s night and day. General Karadick hasn’t smiled since Doom controlled Latveria, he fully supports Riri running things. Sharon can’t believe the laid back environment Riri has created, seeing doom-bots feeding a caring for the children.

Riri didn’t plan for the country to accept her so easily. But she plans to see things are set right before giving control over S.H.I.E.L.D. That includes demanding supplies the country will need to sustain and run itself. I’m assuming General Karadick will be entrusted to steer the ship forward.

While in Chicago, Riri’s mother is paid a visit by an Inhuman and expects the worst news about her daughter. When that’s cleared up, the Inhuman cuts to the point attempting to entrap her. The Inhuman and the party she speaks on behalf of, come off as a shady organization the Avengers should question more.

After giving Sharon an example of her dictatorship skills, Riri stands her ground, proving her cause and knocking Sharon off her high horse. This allows Latveria a prospect of rebuilding the country until Victor Von Doom ever reclaims his throne. This incident places Ironheart on the front pages of the Daily Bugle! Now that’s an accomplishment for the young superhero. But her mother may indifferent about Riri’s actions. Moms know best.

Overall: Don’t let the cover fool ya, you’ll get very little of that particular plot. But we finally got the issue where Riri Williams shows she can and will do good for the world. I have to keep in mind, Riri is still a young character and may have a giant ego after this incident. If she was to step back from wearing the armor, she has many opportunities to make changes under her real name. With Legacy around the corner, there’s no telling where she’ll end up [Keep in mind, I don’t read solicits for many books]. For the first time since the series started, the issue gave me a true appreciation these first two volumes. Brian Michael Bendis took me through a slow burn I can get behind. Whatever happens after this good or bad, I’ll always have these first ten issues to go back and read through. I’ve been a champion for Riri Williams creating her own armor and making a new name if she continues her superhero ventures. Living up to Tony Starks name can only work for so long, Riri Williams will only get lost in his lure and never putting her true stamp on the Marvel Universe. The art is never an issue and only heightens my enjoyment of this issue.

9.5/10

#ironheart #invincible iron man #brian michael bendis #stefano caselli #marte gracia #marvel #latveria #victor von doom #sharon carter #riri will #blerds

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