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ramsesja · 6 months

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“No idea's original, there's nothing new under the sun / It's never what you do, but how it's done!” -Nas

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trueconservativepundit · 5 months

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Memorable ‘Memes’

By Rob Pue, Publisher – Wisconsin Christian News I’d guess most of you are familiar with “memes,” which come across social media sites and emails. These have become very popular in recent years, because of peoples’ short attention spans. They feature a photograph or other image, and just a few words that get a message across succinctly and quickly. Often times, “memes” are meant to be…

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#climate change #gender #liberal policies #liberalism #memes #News #Transgender #wokeness #wrong think

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bixels · 5 months

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Always an experience watching the leftism leave FNAF fans when someone mentions that Scott Cawthon financially backed fascist politicians.

The switch from posting hardline leftist tweets about boycotts and signal boosts and critical takedowns of politicians and celebrities to ‘ohhh, well. everyone makes mistakes. who can blame him, listen he. he donated money to gay charities too. that makes it ok! a millionaire in his forties is allowed to have political beliefs. does it even matter? just let it go!’ is whiplash inducing. The antivaxxer celebrities have got to go, but this one horror dev who quietly handed wads of cash to antivax lawmakers? He’s chill, he can stay.

The charity thing is so funny too because suddenly utilitarian positive-negative point counting is the way to go. Maybe an abacus would help calculate the net good of donating to the Trevor Project minus donating thousands of dollars to Mitch McConnell and Donald Trump. -10 points if I push a kid in a lake but +11 points if I help an old lady across the street, so I’m chill. You can’t judge me. Hey, maybe. Just don’t push a kid in the lake period. How fucking low is the bar when we’re excusing maxing out the possible dollar amount of donations to Mitch fucking McConnell. That should be like. Default you’re a bad person.

#delete later #personal #not art #rant #you can still be a fan of fnaf 100% but god you’re not obligated to defend its creator #don’t pretend like Scott is cool #“’Scott likes gay people he only voted for trump for his fiscal and defense policies in defendi america from terrorists!’#kid. that’s not good either.#fiscal conservatism kills people too.#the whole thing exposes how weak some leftists are to the image of the ‘well-mannered right wing republican.’ the type who would #respectfully disagree with your right to exist with a kind top of the hat #‘as long as you silently hate me and force a nice smile while shaking my hand it’s ok’#this is why jk Rowling is hated while Scott gets a free pass. just have to hide your hate well enough and liberals will excuse you ig

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allthecanadianpolitics · 4 months

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Ahmed Kouta - the Palestinian-Canadian medical worker who is stuck in Ghazzah while the government rejects his applications to return to Canada - and his family have been mentioned by name in the House of Commons. Lindsay Mathyssen, NDP representative of London where Ahmed Kouta and his family are from, confronts the dangerous behaviour of Mélanie Joly and the Liberal establishment for refusing Ahmed's requests to leave. This puts their live in extreme danger. Mélanie Joly admits they have left stranded many Palestinian-Canadians in Ghazzah and are revoking their access to leave, albeit in bureaucratic terms. She admits to working with Egyptian border police, which have been exposed for forcing Palestinians to pay them 5000$ bribes to exit Ghazzah.

Abd Kouta warns that his brother in Ghazzah is not safe, and the situation keeps getting more exponentially more dangerous by the day. Keep up your advocacy, they're unable to ignore our voices.

- Hussein

#cdnpoli #Mélanie Joly #Lindsay Mathyssen #London #Ontario #NDP #Liberals #Foreign Policy #Palestine #zionist occupation of Palestine #Free Palestine

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very-lost-hobbit · 2 months

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"US proxy war in Ukraine" Beating u with lead pipes

#Ukraine. is. fighting. a. genocide. Yes USA foreign policy has a lot to be critisized but a TINY SLIVER of a defence budget #being sent to Ukraine is NOT one of them (except the fucking. lack of actual teeth and backing but that's not unique to the US)#UKRAINE. WOULD FIGHT. ANYWAYS. YOU GODDAMN DINGDONGS.#And the more information that comes out from liberated territories the more I'm pissed off that people piss and moan #about arming Ukraine (WHICH THE US ISN'T EVEN DOING RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF YOUR STUPID INTERNAL POLITICS!!!!)#rusbots fuck off it'll be block on sight I'm not arguing about this lmfao #I'm taking a break from internet I've seen too much of this shit lately peace gang see you in a few days ✌#current events #kat gets personal #me #ukraine

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lilithism1848 · 7 months

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Organizing Tip: Don’t talk down to normies

I love my theory and politically driven discussion with comrades who I know I agree with. But outside of my Socialist sphere, in the workplace and among family and friends I work with a whole host of other people. Some conservative. Some liberal. Some progressive. And I like to get into political conversations with each of them and there is one universal theme I get:

Don’t be an ass.

No one wants to feel like they are being scolded or yelled at for having the wrong opinion. People are terrified of being yelled at for “having the wrong opinion” and are wary of the stereotype of the angry leftist that they saw on the fear mongering news.

Now for the case of the average worker who isn’t a die-hard far-right reactionary, does that mean you should just let them say problematic things? No.

But it does mean you should respond to them slowly and thoughtfully. Ask them why they think what they do. The vast majority aren’t saying what they are out of some deep understanding of the issue. They haven’t read liberal or conservative “theory”. They are rehashing something they saw on the news that they think meshes with their values of being a good person. When someone thinks that you are both intelligent on a subject and respectful, they will want to hear more of your side in the future. That’s how you open pathways to radicalizing your “a-political” or moderate coworkers friends and family.

If we want to organize the masses we have to be among the masses of non-socialists. We have to educate them. And like very good teacher, we meet them where they are at respectfully and as fellow proletarians to pull them over to our side over time.

Now for the obvious final point. Yes, if someone is delving into some deep and heated bigotry, definitely call them out. What I’m saying is that when someone is saying things that don’t reach that level.

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alanshemper · 7 months

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How many people from the USA know that the big liberal foreign policy issue of 1978 through the early 80s was the unjust invasion of Cambodia by Vietnam to topple the champion of the people, Pol Pot?

After two and a half years in power, the Khmer Rouge was overthrown by the Vietnamese on Christmas Day, 1978. In the months and years that followed, the US and China and their allies, notably the Thatcher government, backed Pol Pot in exile in Thailand. He was the enemy of their enemy: Vietnam, whose liberation of Cambodia could never be recognised because it had come from the wrong side of the cold war. For the Americans, now backing Beijing against Moscow, there was also a score to be settled for their humiliation on the rooftops of Saigon.

#pol pot #cambodia #us foreign policy #i wonder how future people will look back on the US liberal foreign policy goals of the early 2020s

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ramsesja · 6 months

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The Palestinian perspective is highlighted on this weekend’s episode featuring activist, author, and former Miss Arab USA, Suzanne Aslam.

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nikkoliferous · 5 months

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IN RECENT WEEKS, as Palestinians rose up in their homeland, in the wider Middle East, and around the world, you probably heard the slogan “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free.” In cities across the globe, protesters responded to the pending expulsions of Palestinian residents from their homes in Jerusalem, Israeli attacks on holy sites, and the bombardment of Gaza. If you watched or attended any of these protests, you likely saw the slogan printed on a sign, or heard it drifting over the crowd.

You may also have heard claims that this slogan is antisemitic or even genocidal. On May 19th, for example, the New Yorker Union was widely attacked for tweeting, “Solidarity with Palestinians from the river to the sea who went on a 24-hour strike yesterday for dignity and liberation.” Whether in earnest ignorance or in bad faith, critics of the river-to-the-sea formulation argued that the union, and others who used the slogan last month, were implicitly calling for not only dismantling the State of Israel, but cleansing the entire region—from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, an area encompassing the West Bank, Gaza, and all of Israel within its internationally recognized pre-1967 borders—of its Jewish population. (Unfortunately, the union backed down in the face of these smears.)

Like many Palestinians, I’ve long used this phrase. About a decade ago, Peter Beinart started a blog at The Daily Beast called “Open Zion” aimed at bringing together a range of perspectives on Israel/Palestine. He invited me to participate regularly, and at first I was hesitant, given the name. Would a project called “Open Zion” really be open to arguments that challenged the tenets of Zionism? I agreed to participate on the condition that I could write what I wanted and that my column could be called “From the River to the Sea.” As I explained to Peter, I wasn’t concerned with Israel’s identity crisis over whether it could be both Jewish and democratic; I was concerned that Palestinians were being denied basic rights throughout their homeland. My column, “From the River to the Sea,” would be focused on the unity of the Palestinian experience and how all Palestinians faced a shared struggle with Zionism regardless of where they lived.

Today, I believe the conversation has increasingly shifted in this direction. This is due in part to a general intellectual and moral awakening—in media, in academia, in activist spaces, and even among certain elected officials—on the subject of Israel/Palestine, but also because of the increasingly horrific realities on the ground. More than ever before, people around the world are accepting that the problem goes well beyond the occupation of the West Bank, and that discrimination against Palestinians occurs on both sides of the Green Line.

The recent Palestinian uprising foreshadowed a future struggle in which the Green Line is unimportant if existent at all, because across the country, Palestinians mobilized collectively on a large scale under their national banner. The phrase “from the river to the sea” captures this future as no other can, because it encompasses the entire space in which Palestinian rights are denied. It is in this space that Palestinians seek to live freely. It is across this space—and across the political and geographic divisions that Israeli rule has imposed—that Palestinians must unite to create change. It is this space that Palestinians call home, regardless of what anyone else calls it.

“From the river to the sea” is a rejoinder to the fragmentation of Palestinian land and people by Israeli occupation and discrimination. Palestinians have been divided in a myriad of ways by Israeli policy. There are Palestinian refugees denied repatriation because of discriminatory Israeli laws. There are Palestinians denied equal rights living within Israel’s internationally recognized territory as second-class citizens. There are Palestinians living with no citizenship rights under Israeli military occupation in the West Bank. There are Palestinians in legal limbo in occupied Jerusalem and facing expulsion. There are Palestinians in Gaza living under an Israeli siege. All of them suffer from a range of policies in a singular system of discrimination and apartheid—a system that can only be challenged by their unified opposition. All of them have a right to live freely in the land from the river to the sea.

But it is precisely because Zionist settler colonialism has benefitted from and pursued Palestinian fragmentation that it seeks to mischaracterize and destroy inclusive and unifying rhetorical frameworks. For example, journalist Marc Lamont Hill was attacked and ultimately removed from his position at CNN for calling for Palestinian freedom “from the river to the sea.” After all, it is far easier to dominate a divided people fighting different battles on different fronts than it is to dominate one people united in a single battle for the same universal rights.

Since Zionists struggle to make a persuasive argument against freedom, justice, and equality for all people throughout the land, they seek instead to attack the message and messenger. When Palestinians proclaim “from the river to the sea, Palestine will be free,” many Zionists argue that this is a Palestinian call for genocide. But as historian Maha Nassar has noted, there has never been an “official Palestinian position calling for the forced removal of Jews from Palestine.” The links between this phrase and eliminationism might be the product of “an Israeli media campaign following the 1967 war that claimed Palestinians wished to ‘throw Jews into the sea.’” Jewish groups such as the American Jewish Committee also claim that the slogan is antisemitic because it has been taken up by militant groups such as the Palestine Liberation Organization, the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, and Hamas. But as Nassar writes, the phrase predates these uses, and has its origins as “part of a larger call to see a secular democratic state established in all of historic Palestine.”

The claim that the phrase “from the river to the sea” carries a genocidal intent relies not on the historical record, but rather on racism and Islamophobia. These Palestinians, the logic goes, cannot be trusted—even if they are calling for equality, their real intention is extermination. In order to justify unending violence against Palestinians, this logic seeks to caricature us as irrational savages hell-bent on killing Jews. Nor does the attempt to link Palestinians to eliminationism stop at the deliberate mischaracterization of this slogan; rather, it is deployed in many other contexts. In 2015, for instance, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu engaged in Holocaust revisionism by stating that it was really a Palestinian, not Hitler, who inspired the final solution. Angela Merkel, the German Chancellor, actually had to remind the Israeli Prime Minister that it was the Germans who were responsible for the Holocaust. Raising the constant specter of eliminationism has political utility for Zionists; in such a threatening environment, perpetual abuses of Palestinians can be rationalized.

This twisted logic is not only reserved for Palestinians. Marginalized groups are often accused of not being trustworthy and of having deep-seated ulterior motives aimed at destroying society. Jews should know this trope well, as it has long been a central feature of antisemitism. In fact, the worst antisemitic attack in American history was carried out in recent years by a murderer who attacked a synagogue because he thought Jews were destroying white Christian-dominated society by bringing in brown immigrants under the guise of humanitarianism.

Fundamentally, such arguments disregard what Palestinians are calling for when they use the phrase in question: a state in which Palestinians can live in their homeland as free and equal citizens, neither dominated by others nor dominating them. When we call for a free Palestine from the river to the sea, it is precisely the existing system of domination that we seek to end.

(article dated June 11th, 2021)

#'from the river to the sea' is no more a call for jewish genocide #than 'black lives matter' is a call for white genocide #we say 'black lives matter' because historically and currently #policy makers and cops have made it clear that black lives do NOT matter to them #we say 'from the river to the sea palestine will be free' bc under historical and current israeli policies #palestine is NOT free #this isn't difficult to understand if you aren't TRYING to obfuscate the issue of palestinian liberation from oppression #ok maybe you've just heard off-hand that this is a call to genocide and swallowed it without much thought #that's fair #ignorance is forgivable #bad faith smears are not #and if you're reading this then now you know #free palestine #ceasefire now #current events #politics

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yourladyindank · 2 years

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I don’t want free healthcare

I want my taxes to pay for my healthcare FIRST and THEN the military

I don’t want free money

I want my job to pay me and everyone else a livable wage, not survivable.

I don’t want free housing

I want fair and affordable housing, 30% of my income at most.

I don’t want companies to be unprofitable and go under.

I want them to charge fair prices and stay out of the government and law making. Companies should be subject to the laws and will of the people, not the other way around.

I don’t want elections to always go my way

I want people to be able to vote quickly and easily. It should be harder to NOT vote

I don’t want billionaires to pay for everything

I want billionaires to not exist, and for us to be able to afford ourselves.

#economics #demands #change #policy #government #Republican #liberal #Democrat #conservative

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eraserdude6226 · 1 year

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Yet more proof that liberalism is a mental diseases!!

#liberalism is a mental disorder #liberal policies suck #liberal

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allthecanadianpolitics · 6 months

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Prime Minister Justin Trudeau faced calls for an immediate ceasefire between Israel and Hamas during an unannounced visit to a Toronto-area mosque on Friday.

"Shame on you. How many more Palestinian children need to be slaughtered?" a woman in the crowd is heard telling Trudeau outside the mosque. "How many more before you call for a ceasefire?"

In a video provided to CBC News by a community member in attendance, Trudeau is seen inside the International Muslims Organization (IMO) Mosque in Etobicoke, Ont., trying to speak to the crowd. At one point, a man is heard yelling "Shame." Another man is heard asking Trudeau, "Do you condemn Israel?"

The Prime Minister's Office did not tell the media about the appearance in advance, which as of Friday evening had not appeared on his public itinerary.

The visit comes as more than 30 MPs have written a letter to the prime minister calling on him to advocate for a ceasefire between Israel and Hamas. [...]

Tagging; @politicsofcanada

#cdnpoli #Toronto #Ontario #Justin Trudeau #Liberals #Foreign Policy #zionist occupation of Palestine #child death tw #genocide

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aingeal98 · 2 months

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The part of the Zionists rhetoric I've seen online especially here on tumblr that really... not so much confuses or disturbs me because every part of supporting racism and genocide is disturbing, but the part that makes me nauseous in a very specific way, is how many of these people claim to be leftists. Not the Israeli government or the majority of Zionists obviously, they're proud racist right wingers. But here on tumblr you have people who believe in feminism and queer rights and would agree easily enough with surface level takes on how racism in America is bad. And when it comes to conservatives and red fascists they can easily tell when a right wing racist or homophobe is arguing in bad faith, they can make long posts explaining the harm behind terf rhetoric and how it differs from the actual fight for women's liberation. They can look at the Russia and Ukraine conflict and use critical thinking to call out bad actors with ease.

But then with Israel and Palestine they just... Flip. All the bad faith arguments they criticised before is now their modus operandi. They ignore the ongoing genocide and the Palestinians talking about it and focus on the oppressors, only reblogging the same one or two Palestinian voices once every now and then that say everything they want to hear and nothing more.

I think the most striking example is that "antisemitism bingo" someone made where the ongoing genocide was something to be laughed at and the blog made fun of Palestinian civilians being tortured. And yet when a blocklist went around of people who interacted with that ghoulish blog, clearly explaining why we should avoid them, (Hijt:The racism and dehumanisation of Palestinians) these "leftist zionists" immediately were like "Oh its a block list of Jewish blogs! It's only blocking us because we're Jewish!"

Like it's the most bad faith easily disproven illogical argument that every random 4chan troll can make. It's not my actions it's because I'm white! It's not my homophobic remarks it's because I'm straight!

I still struggle to understand how they're able to flip so easily from intelligent historical and societal discussions of oppression and intersectionality to denial of the Nakba, denial of the apartheid and racism that has ruled the Israeli state since its conception, denial of the Israeli terrorism and colonisation ongoing in the West Bank that Palestinians have been speaking up about for years (The save Sheikh Jarrah campaign and the murder of peaceful Palestinian activists predates October 7th by quite a bit and yet received far, far less coverage by western media) and denial of everything the government and soldiers and many citizens are currently doing to murder as many Palestinians as possible. How do you go from pointing out cult tactics to a Maga style tribalism enthusiast just because it's Palestinians being oppressed and not another group?

The only reason I can think of is that unlike say, white people or straight people, zionists DO have an understandable, real fear that they can use to promote their racist cult. Antisemitism exists worldwide and is a problem in every single country. Unlike ridiculous concepts like "white genocide" or misandry, there is grounded, factual and understandable reasons for Jewish people to want a community where they can feel safe. And anyone who truly cares about equality for all must be committed to stamping out and dismantling antisemitism in every country and neighbourhood, because Zionists sure as hell aren't. The more antisemitism exists the greater their fuel for justifying and promoting Israel as the One True answer to it all.

But the solution of Israel involved ethnic cleansing in order to built their majority Jewish state, and relies on racism and genocide to maintain it. Just like any other coloniser state, it's not sustainabile and is constantly spiralling towards fascism. (America currently contending for loudest spiral) And that is obvious to anyone who reads up on the history or just like. Talks to Palestinians for five seconds. Israel exists due to racism and dehumanisation of Palestinians, and anyone who considers that an acceptable sacrifice is blatantly morally bankrupt. But the tribalism is simply too strong for that sort of logic and understanding, and whatever reasons they may have for falling into Zionism, it's still unacceptable. If you're still on here talking about "demonising Israel and exaggerating genocide (for the woke agenda, is what they're two steps away from saying) then I have no sympathy or time for you. One day you will be forced to reckon with your cognitive dissonance and willful ignorance, and the self righteous racist narrative you cling to will no longer be enough to protect you from judgement. Normal people with their morals screwed on right don't support fascism and racism. Leftists sure as hell shouldn't support facism and racism. (And yes this goes for those who defend Russian and Chinese imperialism too.)

You talk about feeling isolated, about having no one but fellow zionists to rely on. No one else will accept how complicated the situation is, you say over the sound of ten thousand murdered children killed and celebrated by the fascists you're carrying water for. Everyone else is just too antisemitic! You say as the Israeli government and military celebrates Hannukah by bombing Palestinians and joking that they're lighting one of the candles.

I genuinely can't tell if these people are aware they're full of shit or just so scared that they've dived deep into cult mentality with zero critical thought allowed. But either way, there should be no more space for them in our community than a nazi, a homophobe or a Trump supporter. They may have parroted similar ideals of equality and justice for long enough, but when push came to shove and the issues began to hit too close to home, they decided that supporting facism is how they want to cope. So be it. Palestine will be free with or without them and I will mourn the intelligent principled people they could have been, but at the end of the day you have to draw the line somewhere. And supporting genocide is generally a solid line to go with.

#What I've learned in recent months that's quite depressing #Is that many American liberals consider racism an acceptable evil the way they don't consider feminism or homophobia #If Biden adopted and increased Trump's misogynistic policies while being actually good on all the current racist ones #I sincerely doubt that people would be fanatically attacking anyone who criticises him the way they are now #Those that suffer due to both parties racism simply has to suck it up and wait their turn for a good candidate #Vote for the guy who will protect me and people like me even though he's supporting and funding the fascists killing your family #Is not a position I thought liberals would ever be in #And adding “I know it sucks but it's the only way” doesn't actually make it better because OK. So what do you actually propose to help?#Because protesting the current president complicit in the genocide is apparently a no no. Even if you'll vote him over Trump #Idk man all I know is I'm grateful for the people around me with principals and morals who can see everyone as people #And not just those similar enough to them.

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petrenocka · 1 month

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Listen Americans, I sympathize with your struggle, but "Joe Biden is the best president you had in generations and the best u gonna get at the moment" and "he is currently funding a genocide" are not contradictory statements. Your country is just THAT fucked.

And if this makes you doomer, if you are going to give up on trying over this you owe me 100$.

Local fascists of other countries are salivating at the thought of a Trump reelection. The war on Ukraine is still going on you know, it didn't just stop once you got an even worse genocide to pay attention to like a mob in a video game. The Ukranian children kidnapped to literal re-education camps are still kidnapped. Ukraine really could use the support orange man promised not to give right now.

This "I'm going to not vote/vote third party to show my distane for the whole system" it's just accelerationism. It's "I'm gonna let things get much worse much faster, so that more people see how right I am". And what I see so many of you not get is that "things get worse" means a lot of people dying.

Again, I'm sorry for you. It's hard having good morals while living in an utterly immoral country. But frankly, good ammerican lefties suffering from nightmares about the moral stain on their consciousness that is voting for Joe Genocide is not a primary concern for me. I would like to not get conquered by The Third Russian Empire, thank you very much.

#us lefties when a millenia old liberal who just happened to not be a total nut on domestic policies #didn't undo centuries and decades of brutal imperialism in four years: surprised pikachu #not like trump is going to save Palestine now will he?!?!#politics #us politics #ukraine #russia #war on ukraine #joe biden #even for Palestine Joe winning is the best case scenario. that is utterly fucked but that's what we're working with don't just give up

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okay "normie median Biden voter ice" got me. That's funny. But also so true! It prob took him a bit to vote dem too (though I believe that Ice would have never voted for Trump). Would love to hear more thoughts on Ice and Mav's politics. Also the list of who they would have voted for if you're willing to share.

i do worry that posting my extremely in-depth headcanons about some of this stuff will have the JKR “wizard shit” effect on my writing and ruin it a little, but ask and ye shall receive

copy-pasted straight from my list of “unhinged compacflt!top gun headcanons” that ive been keeping since september: on ice & mav's politics

16. Since their friendship began, Ice has always told Maverick who to vote for, since Maverick doesn't care enough to pay attention to national politics. They are begrudging ConservaDems (conservative political views, would vote conservative every election if Republicans weren’t actively sending them to war/actively promoting fascism). Ice’s voting record (and after 1988, Mav’s too) 1980-2020—note that he has always considered himself an “educated moderate”: 1980: Reagan. 1984: Reagan. 1988: Bush. 1992: Bush. 1996: Clinton (reaction to aftermath of PGW. Doesn’t care that Clinton enacted DADT because “I’m not [redacted], so it doesn’t apply to me”). 2000: Gore (refusal to vote for another Bush). 2004: Kerry (Mav votes Bush this year out of spite as he and Ice are going through their break-up). 2008: McCain (Navy loyalty). 2012: Obama (liked him as a person/worked closely with him, didn’t like his policies so much). 2016: Clinton (no other alternative). 2020: Biden (actually liked/previously worked with Biden, and now actively married to another man and therefore had to make some liberal concessions). 2024-onwards they will vote for any Democrat as long as they aren’t a “socialist.”

17. Also, Maverick didn’t vote in 2016. Partially because in my universe the TGM mission takes place that November, very near the election, and he has bigger fish to fry (something Ice will later take him to task for), and partially because I genuinely think he wouldn’t be able to stomach either mainstream candidate and probably would’ve voted for Libertarian Gary Johnson, which might have torn his relationship with Ice to shreds a few days before schedule. “Are you fucking kidding me? Johnson? Pete, this moron’s moronic party wants to abolish the driver’s license—” / “—Yeah, and then I could ride your sweet wheels with no problem whatsoever—maybe he’ll abolish pilots’ licenses, too, I’d like to see that—” / “If you vote for Gary fucking Johnson, I will very happily stop footing the bill for your piece-of-shit airplane, and you can see how useful your pilot’s license is then—” / So Mav didn’t vote in 2016.

35. In terms of what he Tweets: I do foresee, post-retirement, Ice basically becoming a neoliberal military intellectual type on Twitter a la Mark Hertling (look him up on Twitter). Bio: “Retired @SECNAV. Advisor @WhiteHouse and @VoteVets. Contributing writer @TheAtlantic. Interested in geopolitics & modern warfare. Aviator, husband, Padres fan. [American flag emoji]” Only posts pictures of himself and Maverick at three specific annual events: 1. their wedding anniversary (“36 years with this fool and he’s still surprised to find out that I like the F-5 better than the A-4 #happyanniversary”), 2. every EAA Airventure (huge airplane convention), 3. San Francisco’s Fleet Week (which of course they MUST attend, they even headline it in 2018). Informative, analytical, highly-respected. Maybe goes on CNN or NBC all the time to talk about civil-military relations shit (aversion to FOX since the start of the Iraq War). Gonna say he had like four really viral threads about Russia and Ukraine in April or May and so has 300k followers or something like that. He has a personal website that links back to his Twitter and every essay he writes for international publications, with a pretty braggadocious bio (something along the lines of “Tom Kazansky has directly almost started global nuclear war twice in his life, and in the thirty-year gap in between, sold the Swiss half their entire goddamn Air Force and directed an entire Fleet during the Iraq War”). Lots of tweets like “Military aviation hot take: Compared to the F-22, the F-35 is a waste of money. Source: husband with 400+ hours of F-35 experience.” / “[Quote tweet of Russian Foreign Minister boasting about Su-57 production lines] Oh, so you guys finally figured out how to make more than one every other year?” / “Analysis of the failure of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet in Ukraine, from an ex-US Pacific Fleet Commander’s perspective: a short [thread emoji] [This thread gets 26k likes and 4k retweets]” / “This weekend my husband & I flew in to @EAA Oshkosh #OSH19 & took home first place for best P-51. Not to brag, but.” (A reply to this tweet: “Sir, you really know how to bury the lede that your husband is Adm. Pete ‘Maverick’ Mitchell. I had to look it up on Wikipedia.” / @TKazansky: “What, was it not obvious? Who else could it have been?”) Also, I see him writing a whole bunch of op-eds for international political magazines a la Tom Nichols (look him up on Twitter too). Writing analyses of recent geopolitical/military events for the New York Times, the New Yorker, the Bulwark, the Navy Times, the Atlantic, Bellingcat, etc. Not so much focused on domestic issues (but VoteVets [socially progressive vets’ group] board member, and ardently pro-democracy, yay!). He’s a smart guy.

37. This is not a headcanon, just kind of a… a real-life implication. My Ice was Deputy Commander of Third Fleet in 2003, meaning he’d have been there in command of the USS Abraham Lincoln when President Bush gave his “Mission Accomplished” speech aboard that ship in May less than 2 months after the initial American invasion of Iraq. Very premature & embarrassing. Ice would’ve been in direct contact with Bush/Cheney/NSC bureaucrats many, many times during the war. I genuinely believe this is what pushed him over the edge into firm liberal territory.

#they are the opposite of social liberal fiscal conservative #social boomer and fiscal moderate and foreign policy liberal #as they are straight-passing they are also conservative-passing in that they claim they are conservatives because it upholds their view #of American masculinity (as many conservative men do) but they're not actually conservative #sometimes I do think I stumbled upon a stroke of genius with my 'mav is a libertarian' hc though #im sure im not the only person to have had that hc but still. seriously ur gonna look at that mf and tell me he's not a libertarian #guys. when I tell you I have thought entirely too much about this stuff I mean it #top gun #top gun maverick #top gun headcanons #tom iceman kazansky #pete maverick mitchell #I have more of their foreign/domestic policy opinions but I think if I posted any more of this stuff #you would see me for who I am (insane)#thank you for the ask hahahaha #<3

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