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8golden-harvest8 · 10 months
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some soft versions of the ace and aegosexual flags cuz why not?
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dosie-dosie · 6 months
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Cool Aro and/or Ace Spec Resources + Other Stuff!!
This list is for ALL people regardless of your identity. This blog is a safe space for all types of aro and/or ace spec people. Hate will NOT be tolerated. Questions are okay! :)
Also! I can't fit all the cool things I found on this list, so I'll make another one in the future! :)
Cool things!
Are You on the Aromantic Spectrum (quiz)?
Are You on the Asexual Spectrum (quiz)?
Aro Ace Character Database
Aro Arrows
Aro-Owned Businesses
Aro-Recommended
Asexual Pride Friendship Bracelet Tutorial
Attraction Layer Cake
Books With Asexual Main Characters
Canon Aroace Characters
Canon Aro and Ace Characters
Crochet Pride Turtle Modification Guide
Free Asexual Bee Crochet Pattern
Free Asexual Flag Cross Stitch Pattern Ace of Spades
Free/Online Aromantic & Asexual Fiction
LGBTQ+ Flags in Minecraft - Banner Tutorial
Pride Patch Tutorials
Learning and Resources!
7 Tips For Coming Out As Ace
Ace/Aro Mythbusting
Ace & Aro Spectrum Definitions
Advice on Coming Out As Aromantic
A Guide to Allo Aro Inclusion in A-Spec Communities
Am I Demisexual If...
Aromantic Info Carrd
Aromantic Spectrum Wiki Stub
Asexual Advice Tumblr
Asexual Affirmations: Things That Don't Make You Any Less Ace
Asexuality and Disability
Asexual Spectrum Wiki Stub
Ask An Aromantic Tumblr
Bi-Oriented Aroace Carrd
List of A-Spec Identities & Info
Myths About Demisexuals
Oriented and Angled Aroace Carrd
Split Attraction Model
Types of Tertiary Attraction
What Is Graysexuality?
Why I’m Founding Disabled Ace Day
Queering The Narrative: Tropes to Avoid When Writing Asexual Characters (intended for allosexuals, not asexual authors)
People's Stories!
An Interview About Allosexual Aromantics
Aro/Ace Confessions Tumblr
Aromantic Coming Out Stories
Asexual Authors Discuss Why They Write and Their Experiences
Asexual Coming Out Stories
Asexual Disabled People Exist, But Don’t Make Assumptions About Us
Asexuality Exists Tumblr
Existing and Defying Stereotypes As An A-Spec Disabled Person
Gray-Romantic, Grieving, and Dealing with More Internalized Amatonormativity than I Thought (tw: internalized arophobia, abuse)
How Asexual and Aromantic People Observe a Day Dedicated to Love
If You Can See the Invisible Elephant, Please Describe It
I'm Aromantic and Asexual - And I Love Valentine's Day
Is It Possible For Me To Be Lesbian and Aroace at the Same Time?
I’ve Realized I’m Asexual but Have Internalised Aphobia, So What Now? (tw: internalized acephobia)
Lesbian Ace and Aro Perspectives
‘Not Broken’: The Struggles of Being an Aromantic Allosexual
Three People Who Identify as Asexual and Aromantic Explain What V Day Is Like For Them
What Is It Like Being Allo Aro?
Communities!
Reddit
r/aaaaaaaarrrrro (memes)
r/aaaaaaacccccccce (memes)
r/aaaaaaaspeccccccc (memes)
r/aaabatterycult
r/aaapeople
r/aaarrroooaaaccceee
r/aarrrooooooaaacceeeee (memes)
r/aceandaroart (art)
r/acearoautistics
r/aceconfessions
r/acefood (food)
r/ace_arosover30
r/acesoftwaregeeks (programming)
r/aceteens
r/aegoromantic
r/aegosexuals
r/agenderaroace
r/allo_ace
r/amiace (ask)
r/angledaroace
r/animace (anime/manga)
r/apothiromantic
r/apothisexual
r/arcsexual
r/aroace
r/aroaceadults
r/aroacebooks (books)
r/aroacechristianity (christianity)
r/aroacecommunity
r/aroacenby
r/aroaceflux
r/aroaceindia (india)
r/aroacememes (memes)
r/aroacepoly
r/aroaceteens
r/aroallo
r/aroandacelife
r/aromantic
r/aromanticasexual
r/aromanticcirclejerk (satire)
r/asexual
r/asexualcirclejerk (satire)
r/asexualdating (dating)
r/asexualgamers (gaming)
r/asexualgaymen
r/asexualindians (india)
r/asexuality
r/asexuals_lesbians
r/asexualmen
r/asexuals_in_love
r/asexualteens
r/askallosexual (ask)
r/askaroace (ask)
r/askasexual (ask)
r/biorientedaroace
r/biroace
r/biromanticasexual
r/cupioromantic
r/cupiosexual
r/dateademi (dating)
r/demiromantic
r/demisexuality
r/faceoface (photos)
r/fictoromantic
r/fictosexual
r/fraysexual
r/graysexual
r/greyromantic
r/greysexuality
r/heteroromanticasexual
r/lithromanitc
r/lithrosexual
r/mildly_ace (photos)
r/myrsesexual
r/orientedaroace
r/panromanticasexuality
r/placiosexualityu
r/sexfavorableace
r/sexrepulsed
r/taskforcealphaalpha
r/traaaaaaarrrrrrro (memes)
r/transasexuals
r/tripleabattery
r/quiromantic
r/quiosexual
Forums
Arocalypse
The Asexuality Visibility and Education Network
Demi Grace
Organizations
Ace & Aros
The Ace and Aro Advocacy Project
Ace Week
Aromantic Spectrum Awareness Week
Asexuality Archive
Asexual Outreach
The Association for Asexuals in Denmark
AUREA
Resources For Ace Survivors
Discord (I don’t used discord so I haven’t verified if these are any good, but I choose the most popular ones)
Ace Homies
Ace Planet
Acing the Arrows
The Aro & Ace Café
Bows & Aros
For Creatives (Artists, Writers, etc.)
Aromantic Writing Month
Carnival of Aces
Carnival of Aros
Arospec Poetry Network
Aro Worlds
Videos
Asexuality 101 (playlist) (Haven't watch all the vids yet, but the ones I've seen seem pretty good)
Ways to Show Your Aro and Ace Pride
Tumblrs
(If I should remove any of these, let me know)
Acespec-Ed
ActuallySafe-For-Aro
Aro Humor
Asexual-Society
Asexual Spectrum Spector
AVENPT (Asexual Visibility and Education Network Project Team)
Fuck Yeah Asexual
Growing Up Aro
Perks of Being Ace
The Humorous Ace
Your Fav Is Aromantic
Inclusive Picrews
Heart Hold Character
Legitimate ID Maker
Little Guy Maker
Opossum Party
PotatoLord’s Persona Creator
Prideful Cats
Pride Icon Maker
Wervty’s Obscured Icon Maker
If you have any other cool aro and/or ace things you’d like to share, please let me know and I’ll add it to the list! :) Also, if there's anything I should remove, let me know (and please tell me the reason why)!
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picturebird · 2 months
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Shipping Alastor Hot Tip:
If you want to ship Alastor from Hazbin Hotel with another character, here’s how you can do that while respecting his asexuality. Don’t worry it’s easy!
Figure out under what circumstances he can feel sexual attraction.
Is it only someone he’s closely bonded to? (Demisexuality)
Is it only when he knows they are attracted to him? (Reciprosexuality)
Is it only when he doesn’t have a close bond with someone and it goes away when they get close? (Fraysexuality)
You don’t have to use micro labels (labels can be problematic at times) but looking into the ace umbrella is definitely important. If you’re writing a fic, all you need is one sentence addressing this and then you can move on to the spicy stuff if you want to. It’ll make whatever relationship you’re writing even more special!
Here’s a link:
There’s been a lot of stress in the fandom over shipping Alastor and I think it’s mostly a misunderstanding (sadly not entirely at times).
People should be able to ship who they want, but ace people (who don’t have a lot of media rep) shouldn’t be erased. It can be hard when you love a character who’s like you and all the content you see about them is taking away that one thing you have in common. At times, that dismissal can feel like hate. But it is completely understandable if you find joy/pleasure in specific ships and want to express those feelings. I’m sure aegosexuals and fictosexuals (also ace) can relate to that too. Finding that balance is something the queer community as a whole is still working on.
Just be kind, be respectful and remember a character being ace doesn’t take away anything it only adds to them.
It’s not a restriction. It’s an opportunity :)
Have fun!
PS please reblog so more of the fandom gets this
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gray-ace-space · 14 days
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Heya! so this is probably really dumb... I figured I am aegosexual but I don't feel comfortable (yet) telling anybody irl since it's such a niche sexuality and I don't wanna do the explaining or have people thinking I am weird. would I still be valid if I just said I am ace/on the ace spec? I think that would make me feel most comfy but I don't wanna be a hypocrite. idk, sorry I cannot own up to it (yet?)
hi, i wrote a response to this then i read it over again and realized it sounded harsh. so, you know, just assume i'm not being harsh at you, i'm being harsh on your behalf.
you don't owe anyone shit. do i tell everyone i'm a genderqueer bigender graydemisexual omnigay bi lesbian turigirl every single time? no, i say i'm genderqueer, demi, and bi. not even most of my friends know all my specific labels. (just strangers on tumblr i guess..)
you are asexual. absolutely nobody needs to know anything more than that if you don't feel like telling them. your comfort comes first.
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aspec-of-dust · 29 days
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The thing about aegosexual as an identity is that it discloses some pretty personal/intimate information about how an individual engages with their sexuality.
Therefore, I think it's important to keep in mind that just because a label describes your experience, doesn't mean you have to identify that way.
No one should have to disclose their relationship with fiction or their desires if they don't want to, and no one should feel like that information is being disclosed because they're not using a label (e.g., people assuming you don't experience those desires because you don't identify as aegosexual).
Which is all to say, if aegosexual is a label you're comfortable using, more power to you! But no one should feel pressure to use a label they're not comfortable with, even if it describes them perfectly. As a community we shouldn't assume that everyone is comfortable using the aegosexual label or assume that using aegosexual as a label means that person's experiences are entirely separate from those of others who only identify as asexual.
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cornflowerblue10 · 20 days
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Today is International Asexuality Day! 🖤🩶🤍💜. International Asexuality Day is on April 6th. Please know that Asexuality is a spectrum of sexualities.
Shout out to Graysexuals that experience little sexual attraction. Shout out to Asexuals that experience no sexual attraction. Shout out to Apothisexuals that are repulsed by the idea of sex. Shout out to Aegosexuals that like the idea of sexual activitys, but imagined from a third-person perspective. Shout out to Cupiosexuals that desire to feel sexual attraction despite not being able to. Shout out to Demisexuals that only experience sexual attraction after an emotion bond is formed. Shout out to Lithosexuals who feel sexual attraction only for those that do not reciprocate those feelings. Shout out to Fraysexuals who only feel sexual attraction for people they don't know well.
Shout out to asexuals that feel sexual attraction only in specific conditions. Shout out to asexuals who will never feel sexual attraction. Shout out to asexuals with libidos. Shout out to asexuals that hate the idea of sex. Shout out to asexuals who make sex jokes.
Shout out to heteroromantic, cisgender asexuals. Shout out to transgender asexuals. Shout out to nonbinary asexuals. Shout out to homosexual asexuals. Shout out to genderqueer sexual. Shout out to aromantic asexuals. Shout out to agender asexuals.
And shout out to people who are confused to whether they might be ace or not.
Every single person on the Asexual Spectrum is valid. Don't let anyone convince you otherwise 💜🤍🩶🖤.
Even if you aren't asexual, that's perfectly valid as well ❤️. Please reblog this post, for most people don't know that asexuality is a spectrum and not just one thing.🙏
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au-sonic-smackdown · 3 months
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AU Sonic Smackdown - Round 1, Right Side
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Infested AU belongs to @hejjhug
Sonic Thunderstorm AU belongs to @delightrolls
Read more about them under the cut!
Infested AU-
Sonic, under the influence of a mysterious alien brain parasite, has become unpredictable and very, very dangerous. While all his powers remain the same, he now uses his speed to maim and kill anyone who moves. Sonic’s mental state has devolved to basic instinct, and, thanks to the parasite, he is in a near-constant state of feeling like a wild animal trapped in a corner. As a result, he will call upon impossible strength, reserved only for life-or-death scenarios. Pray you don’t catch his attention. You can’t outrun the fastest thing alive.
Sonic Thunderstorm AU-
Sonic the Hedgehog is an Egyptian Long-Eared Hedgehog. Sonic has major Electrokinesis and major Aerokinesis and major Cháokinesis. Sonic is an aromantic quoiromantic asexual aegosexual intersex pangender bordergender narkissigender genderspeed hedgehog with ADHD, BPD, and NPD who uses any pronouns, including storm/storms, ⛈️/⛈️s, thunder/thunders, 🌩️/🌩️s, gale/gales, 🌀/🌀s, bree/breeze, and 🍃/🍃s pronouns. Sonic is a result of the Ultimate Lifeform Project specifically Project Kinesis, a search to cure aging, discover the genes responsible for Kinetic Abilities, and grant Mobian Kinetic Abilities to humans. Many Mobians with Kinetic Abilities were kidnapped and bred to have their abilities studied resulting in the birth of Sonic, their pink and green siblings, and many others. Around the age of 3 - 5 Sonic and well as their mother and two siblings escaped the lab only to drown in the ocean during their get away leaving Sonic as the sole survivor and with an intense fear of water. After being saved from drowning they were put the foster system where they were they were often bullied or excluded by the other children and past around from home to home sometimes being treated well but other times being abused their adoptive families and that combined with never having a stable home leads to them developing BPD. Around the age of 12 - 13 Sonic gets tired of feeling unloved by both the foster homes they lived at and by the people who adopted them only to later throw them away so Sonic decides to run away in the hopes of finding someone who will genuinely care about them. While struggling to survive on their own the hedgehog starts to encounter Eggman and quickly becomes a thorn in his side. Also while searching for a home they encounter Tails, a DID system who is being abused by their family and bullied due to being Autistic. Sonic, sympathetic to their new friend's suffering, encourages them to run away with them to find somewhere better to live. While on their quest for a happy home the two become known for stopping Eggman's evil deeds resulting a couple named Darron Bolos Segaleh and Ilaiya Gotzone Nailah coming to adopting the two. The relationship starts of sweet but in reality Darron really only cares about using to two as mascots for his company and isn't above mistreating and abusing his children when they do something that makes his company loses money or negatively impacts their image. Being treated like a prince when succeeding and as worthless after every mistake leads to Sonic developing NPD. After growing up Sonic eventually goes on to live in a house with a number of their friends including Tails and Sonic is able to finally start recovering from everything that happened to them although they find recovery incredibly difficult. Sonic is a sweet person but is very emotional unstable which can lead to them make mistakes or hurting themself.
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I feel a little bit isolated from the ace community, bc it seems that no one had similar experiences to me in childhood and teens up till now. While everyone seems to have hated sex or never thought of it, I was always expectant of it. I was excited for future sexual experiences, thinking I would have it really early and it would be the most amazing experience ever.
I never questioned my aceness till I actually had encountered and realised I didn't feel anything.
I don't know if this is a sign that I might not be ace. But it doesn't feel right to not be. Ace is a way of explaining how I experience attraction and my relationship with sexual stuff.
I also feel like my aspiration to be sexually active might have come from fantasy in the sense that it was make-believe for me. It wasn't quite pretending, I did want to do it, and that fact remains.
And I still kinda do, but now I know I won't get anything out of sex or even kissing.
I just feel kinda... eh? about i
( answered by noah [so be nice :")] )
Being asexual doesn't always necessarily mean you don't like sex, you can still want to participate in it. You can feel the desire to have sex, but not feel any attraction to those who you'd have sex with (example of Cupiosexual). You could also view porn and masturbate, but not wish to engage in said activities (example of Aegosexual). You might even feel sexual attraction to someone only after you form a close bond with them (example of Demisexual).
There are plenty of microlabels on the asexual spectrum, it is a spectrum after all. Some people prefer to use umbrella terms to define themselves. In contrast, some like getting into the nitty-gritty of microlabels, finding a term that perfectly encapsulates themselves and who they are. Don't feel pressured to choose a microlabel if you don't want to, just know that they're there if "asexual" just doesn't feel right.
I'd suggest looking through some microlabels to see if any feel right. And if not, it doesn't matter!! You can question if you're ace and decide you're not ace, at the end of the day it's only your opinion that matters dude.
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lgbtqtermoftheday · 19 days
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Asexuality
Today, April 6th, is international asexuality day
Asexuality is when somebody lacks sexual attraction. The lack of attraction does not mean that they do not have sexual desires.
There are many forms of asexuality, and most do not include sexual trauma, although that can be a reason someone is asexual and that is still entirely valid.
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Some are paired together due to the connections between when sexual attraction occurs, for example:
Demisexuality and fraysexuality are both related to how much you know a person
Please reblog to spread asexual awareness
Demisexual
Only feels sexual attraction after an emotional bond of some form, does not need to be romantic
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Fraysexual
Only feels sexual attraction when there is no emotional bond
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Graysexual
Rarely feels sexual attraction however sometimes will, this is also an umbrella term for other forms of asexuality where attraction can be felt under certain conditions
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Cupiosexual
No sexual attraction but desires a sexual relationship
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Apothisexual
A strong aversion to sexual things and has no desire for a sexual relationship
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Reciprosexual
Sexual attraction is only felt after it is reciprocated
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Lithosexual
Sexual attraction is only felt when it is not reciprocated, and may fade after it is
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Autosexual
The majority or entirety of sexual attraction is towards yourself
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Aegosexual
Liking the idea of a sexual relationship in theory, but when involving yourself you may be repulsed
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Bellussexual
Liking parts of sexual relationships but not feeling the attraction or having a desire for a sexual relationship
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Orchidsexual
Feeling sexual attraction but not wanting a sexual relationship or being repulsed by the idea of having a sexual relationship
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Aceflux
Fluctuating amounts of sexual attraction, or a fluctuating view of sexual relationships
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Acespec
Any identity falling under the asexual umbrella
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Sorry if I missed any, also
All asexuals are valid, no matter gender or other sexual or romantic orientation
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scretladyspider · 2 years
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“Demisexual? Asexual? that’s not real you just want attention!”
You’re right. I do want attention. I want to educate you about the asexual spectrum.
I want you to pay attention to aces when we talk about our experiences.
I want you to accept us.
I want people to listen and learn about us and themselves.
I want asexuality to be commonly understood and accepted.
I want people to find the words that describe their experiences instead of going through their lives feeling broken when nothings wrong.
I want people at pride to not sneer at people with asexual flags.
I want queer advocacy groups to remember we exist every day, not just during ace week or pride month. I want you to listen to our struggles and help us create a world where we can struggle less.
I want to say “I’m demisexual” and have people not only know what that means, but accept it. I want you to learn about experiences outside of your own.
I want to plant the seeds of an ace affirming garden that the next generation will get to see.
I want an end to conversion therapy, to HSDD being a medical diagnosis, to medications being prescribed or denied because we experience little to no sexual attraction. I want doctors to not look at us with pity when we say “I’m ace, I don’t have sex.”
I want therapists to accept us and not blame our orientation on trauma.
I want to not have to educate every medical professional on what my orientation is, and assure them that I don’t need it fixed. I want them to not see us as lacking or broken.
I want you to see our experiences as different, not as lacking or broken or less than.
I want an end to corrective rape as a way to “fix” someone that’s ace.
I want people who are ace to not feel like they have to have sex because it’s there and expected from their partner.
I want young aces to have good lives. I want old aces to understand their past relationships. I want parents to accept their kids when they say “mom, I’m asexual/demisexual/aegosexual/aroace/etc.”
I want aces who have had and enjoyed sex to feel just as at home as aces who are sex repulsed.
I want aces to not have to give a Ted Talk on the first date about their orientation and the spectrum of sex repulsed to sex favorable and where they fall on it.
I want you to understand that libido and sexual attraction can be separate.
I want you to understand that asexuality is a spectrum, and experiencing rare/limited sexual attraction or having sex doesn’t mean we’re not ace anymore.
I want you to stop equating asexuality with virginity, celibacy, and abstinence.
I want you to understand the difference between sexual action and sexual attraction. I want you to understand we can have romantic attraction without sexual attraction.
I want you to understand that we may have neither romantic nor sexual attraction and that doesn’t mean we’re mentally ill or inhuman.
I want you to understand there’s nothing wrong with us, that we don’t need fixing, that we don’t feel like we’re missing out because of our orientation, but rather because you don’t accept us.
I want you to understand, and accept what you don’t understand anyway.
Of course I want your attention. Thought that was pretty obvious.
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buffporcupine · 4 months
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death note headcanons
because i know my death note mutuals aren’t getting what they wanted from me
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-can crack his elbows the way one would crack their knuckles
-probably had to do a musical elective in his first year of middle school and chose guitar cause he thought it would be easy but it wasn’t.
-the type of song he really enjoys is very specific. going to hell yet i tried so so hard to please god song. i missed my only chance song. why wasn’t i like the other kids song. thrones playlist. i could elaborate but i won’t
-as for sexuality, i see him as not wanting to put a label on whatever he is in theory but in practice being some type of bispec (probably berriromantic) for romantic attraction and then somewhere on the asexual spectrum for sexual attraction.
-as for gender i see him as agender whose not really in labeling himself as anything when it comes to sexuality and gender.
-agender but probably 100% fine with being super male presenting. he just wants to keep out of gender as a convo and that’s great. good for him
-no!!!!! i refuse to say this mf is aromantic (because it’s not accurate and it’d be an insult to aromantic people to say he’s aro)!!!!!
-just because he manipulated misa and kiyomi into doing his bidding and didn’t love them doesn’t immediately make him aro. i’m sure he could have found someone if he wanted to, and he could have loved them if he was with them to love them, but he wasn’t with them to love them he was with them to use them.
misa
-half belgian half japanese. her parents met in belgium while her father was on vacation.
-also im torn bcos i wanna write an au where misa is mexican and that’s it everything else is the same as canon but i’m pretty sure that’s just me wanting her to be even more Like Me (tm)
-speaks a little bit of english, way more french, and obvi japanese. finds linguistics interesting but doesn’t have enough time to research it that thoroughly
-likes being short and “small” small girl aesthetic i guess but sometimes wishes she had longer legs so she could wear skirts w/o looking silly and short
-panromantic does not see gender at all when becoming attracted to someone. i see her as def on the ace spectrum, maybe something like demisexual or aegosexual. could be me projecting dunno.
-she’s probably dated both girls and boys before
-would NOT break up with someone in a rude way or just dump them. she’d put a lot of effort into an apology and explanation into why.
-if she met miu iruma they’d be best friends. sorry i bring danganronpa into everything guys
-can we please just appeciate mexican misa for a second. she’s cooking sopa de fideo for the task and being the bilingual hot girl we all needed
-mexican misa
-as for her music taste she probably listens to upbeat english language music and sappy love songs. “there is a light that never goes out” and “melt with you” sound like go-tos for her sorry. i could also see her being a bimbo pop ayesha + britney manson girlie though
-tbh whatever your race/ethnicity is you could project it onto misa and it’d work. i love it. anyway d d d d d d d did i say m m m mexican misa
-i think she’d love love love getting her hair done!!! sensitive scalp mf but she’d still love getting her hair done
-mexican misa visiting mexico and getting braids and cute clothes and her fave candy
-was not a theatre kid. sorry guys but her middle and high school didn’t offer theatre 😔😔
lawliet
-chronically dehydrated just because he forgets to drink water. he tries to drink water and always gets afraid of developing kidney / liver problems but he just keeps forgetting. what the fuck L
-soup stan i think he’d love some good soup. soup stan x soup cooker (lawmane)
-i think you could have a really deep convo about anything with L. if you’re passionate about anything he’ll just listen and he’ll talk to you about what he’s passionate about to. he loves to think and would def entertain you with a convo about whether a hot dog is a sandwich or something dumb like that you know.
-he’s a thinker he just loves discussions
-has a british accent when speaking english bcos watari and lived in england you know. he thinks british accents in english sound good tho and LOVES making fun of how silly new york accents are (me too bro. me too)
-if he went to middle school or the japanese/british equivalent of it, he’d def be the type to choose some weird ass elective fucking creative writing instead of the “normal” guitar, choir, band, orchestra and shit
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ryttu3k · 2 months
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Is it possible to be aro without being ace?
The extremely short version: yes, absolutely! You may want to look up the term 'aroallo'.
This post got huge (nearly a thousand words), so below the cut it goes for A Lot of detail!
With the disclaimer that I'm aro-ace personally and so this isn't my personal experience, yes, absolutely! The split attraction model (first proposed in 1879, later repopularised exactly a century later in 1979, with the aspec community in particular embracing it from around 2005 when the term 'aromantic' was first used, and coining the term 'split attraction model' specifically around 2015) says that romantic orientation and sexual orientation don't necessarily have to be the same thing.
A lot of the times, these orientations are congruent - someone who's panromantic pansexual, for instance, who might just describe themself as pan (or pansexual without differentiating the panromantic part), or aromantic asexual. They can also diverge - someone might be, say, homoromantic bisexual (romantically attracted only to the same gender, sexually attracted to two or more genders).
The aspec community does use it more in particular, I've noticed, although jury is still out on whether aspec people genuinely do have a higher instance of split attraction, or whether there are sociocultural reasons behind it (the term originating largely in the community).
So, some definitions! Aromantic = not romantically attracted to anyone. Arospec = on the aromantic spectrum, including aromantic, demiromantic, etc. Often uses qualifiers to describe who the attraction is towards. Alloromantic = romantically attracted to people. Asexual = not sexually attracted to anyone. Acespec = on the asexual spectrum, including asexual, demisexual, etc. Allosexual = sexually attracted to people. Aspec = pertaining to the arospectrum and acespectrum. Allospec = pertaining to alloromantic and allosexual people.
Then you can basically mix and match to describe your experience! Let's say you're romantically attracted potentially to all genders, but only after a strong emotional connection develops, and not sexually attracted to anyone. You could describe yourself as demi-panromantic asexual, or, more simplified, as arospec ace. Or, let's say you're a man romantically attracted to men, and sexually attracted to men and androgynous people. You could describe yourself as homoromantic bisexual. Or, if that same dude wasn't sexually attracted to anyone, he'd be homoromantic asexual, and could use 'alloace' as shorthand - alloromantic, asexual.
And yes, that absolutely includes being not romantically attracted to anyone (aromantic) and sexually attracted to others (allosexual, which can be described further - homosexual, bisexual, et cetera). As an umbrella term, you could use the term 'aroallo', which does seem to be the most popular term to use, both as a Tumblr tag and as a subreddit (r/aroallo). Probably on other socials but I don't use those XD;;
(Aro-ace specifically seems to use both 'aro-ace' and 'aroace'. I use the former. AFAIK, aroallo and alloace mostly use the non-hyphen version, but again, not much personal experience there.)
An important disclaimer - orientation is messy and imprecise. We use language to try to give some sort of definition, but it's not a black and white thing. People may describe themselves with apparently contradictory terms, like ace lesbian or the like. This is largely due to those spectra (the arospectrum and acespectrum) being huge. There are so many ways to be on those spectra! A small selection of acespec identities include not just asexual, demisexual, and grey asexual, but aceflux (sexual orientation fluctuates, either solely within the ace spectrum or between no and some/a lot of attraction), aegosexual (someone who experiences a disconnect between themselves and the target of arousal, ie. someone who experiences sexual attraction towards others but without themself being in the picture; I've found a lot of people in fandom fit aego, where they're sexually attracted to, say, two fictional characters but they never insert themself into the scene), cupiosexual (asexual or acespec, but still desires sexual actions despite not feeling sexual attraction towards a partner; someone who is otherwise ace but enjoys sex with their partner as a method of being close may describe themself as cupiosexual), etc.
There are also various views towards orientation, sort of along two spectra. One of these spectra is about how you view sex in general, between positive (sex, conceptually and in general, is a good thing!), neutral (sex sure is a thing that exists!), and negative (sex, conceptually and in general, is a bad thing!). Then, there's how you feel about it for yourself - sex-favourable means that even if you're ace, you may enjoy sex for assorted reasons (see: cupio), sex-indifferent means, eh, you don't have strong feelings about having it yourself, and sex-averse is "no thank you not for me!!", with sex-repulsed being considered a stronger variation ("sex is Ew and I don't want to even think about it") that can fit on either spectrum. I would consider myself sex-positive (leaning more towards neutral, I don't think it's a negative thing but it can be used in that way, like any sort of relationship) and sex-averse (no thank you not for me!!). A sex-positive and -averse person may still enjoy erotica; a sex-neutral and -favourable person may enjoy being intimate with a partner even if sex itself is just kind of. A thing.
This has got extremely long-winded, but the short version is: yes, it is absolutely possible to be aro without being ace. The split attraction describes that precisely, and precise definitions of attraction are imprecise and fiddly and can only really give an approximation of individual experiences, and all of these terms are optional anyway - but yes, very possible, often called aroallo.
I hope this helps! :D
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batri-jopa · 8 months
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I just read this conversation on reddit about being aegosexual and cupiosexual with a person arguing how you absolutely can not be both at once because those are two totally opposite terms and so how you should not even ask about something that obvious...
Well I love mathematical logic with all my heart but I also am aware how it doesn't always apply to our imperfect real world. Even less to the living people.
In other words: it's just not that simple.
How I see it:
Stage 1: Let's pretend you're planning to have a meal so you look into the fridge. It's full of fresh and potentially tasty products but literally nothing you see makes you want to eat it. Imagining yourself eating any particular thing may even make you feel weird or disgusted. You assume that you're just not hungry [-> you are asexual]
Stage 2: Imagine you see some people eating with pleasure. You're surprised to find out that you actually enjoy looking at them eating their food. Exactly the same food that seemed so unappealing to you before. Later you find out that even thinking about other people eating their meal can be enjoyble. And that all of a sudden it makes you feel hungry. But still - imagining yourself eating exactly the same type of food as them - to you is not appealing at all. The thought of putting yourself literally in their place takes away all the pleasure [->you are aegosexual]
Stage 3: Imagine you are alone and trying to visualise yourself in the act of eating... something. You can not for the life describe what it is, it's totally unspecified thing. And it is not even important. It's the conception of eating process itself that seems so very enjoyable. It makes you feel reeeally hungry. You don't know what you'd like to eat but you're certain that you DO want to eat something good!
Now being wiser after Stage 1 - you decide to go to the biggest grocery store in the area and there you spend a lot of time looking for the best food for your desired meal. But still nothing you find is appealing to you. Even though you are undeniably hungry and you have whole range of options - you can't find anything you'd actually want! You may recognise few things that you think should be potentially tasty - but it doesn't change the fact you'd need to force yourself to put it in your mouth. [->you are cupiosexual. AND still just asexual]
(Confused as hell you fill your stomach with water until you stop feeling hungry)
Aegosexuality is said to be enjoying watching, reading or just imagining things in third person but never including yourself. When consuming media you "cease to exist"
Cupiosexuality is desiring to do some things including yourself... only with nobody specific. There is the longing - but the thought of doing it with any particular person seems not even a bit as appealing as the act itself.
According to mathematical logic there is no direct opposite between "two people that are NOT me" and "me but with NObody specific"
So maybe it is not possible to be like both at once in the same exact moment - but I'm not convinced it can't be taking turns in one person.
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