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disneyanddisneyships · 6 months
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What is a legacy?
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It's planting seeds
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In a garden
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You never get to see
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valeron99 · 2 months
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My loneliness is killing me.
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lelliefant · 1 year
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If you want to know why the Loki fandom has drifted away, just look at what Disney/Marvel did to him.
He was incredibly powerful—they made him weak and helpless.
He was smarter than everyone else—they made him a fool.
He was a prince—they made him a corporate office drone. They literally put him in a cubicle.
Loki was an alien—they made him an ordinary guy.
He was flamboyant and colorful—they put him in beige. They actually made him act as if he was excited to wear a beige uniform.
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The real Loki would never have tolerated a uniform of any sort, much less something so bland. He was never a soldier or a cog in the wheel. Loki is the piston.
Loki was a deeply wounded, angst-driven son with complex motivations—Disney made him an uncaring narcissist who suddenly sees the error of his ways (in one episode) and has a total personality swipe.
Loki was iconoclastic—they made him ordinary.
They took the most interesting and volatile character in the MCU and warped him into an Everyman role, and somehow everyone bought it. Apparently because they used the same actor with the same face—?
Really think about it. If another actor had started playing Loki for the series, they couldn’t have pulled it off. Series Loki is not the same character as Loki from Thor 1, Avengers 1, and Thor 2. He’s as different as the moviemakers in charge of the productions are. (The directors of Avengers 1 and Thor 2, Joss Whedon and Alan Taylor, simply had the grace and humility to take their cue from the original vision of Kenneth Branagh.)
If you don’t actually pay attention to Loki’s character, motivations, logical action, or his history, and you’re only interested in being entertained, I guess it doesn’t matter. This is just a superhero movie character, so who cares if they turned him inside out to conform with a simpler, less challenging archetype?
He’s their property, after all. They can use him however they want to. If they want to chew him up and spit him out as a naive, lovelorn mensch because that’s the Disney protagonist formula, they can and will. If they want to put him into a buddy-cop procedural, as if he were an ordinary human person whose shtick is a magic kit, they can.
A lot of you who are constantly defending the Loki Series are not really thinking about it. Maybe you’re just happy he has a show to his name. Maybe you don’t care; you just want more “content.” Maybe you don’t want someone spoiling your fun.
Maybe you think you’re being the loyal crowd by “defending” Loki. You’re not seeing that Disney did worse than kill him off—they unmade him. They put the God of Mischief into a blender with the Disney formula, audience response data, standard storytelling tropes, a limited range of plot lines, and a great deal of money, and out came this golem with Loki’s face on it.
You might revile me for saying all this because that’s easier than facing the truth or questioning the Powers That Be. There will always be people who can’t tolerate having their beliefs challenged.
I have seen nastiness on this hellsite toward people who question and protest what the majority accepts—but that’s just a reflection of the real world. It’s never going to work out well for those of us who see things differently and who don’t shut up about it. So, why do we keep annoying everyone with our dissenting opinions?
In my case it’s because I actually do care about Loki. I care enough to tell the unpopular truth, as I see it. Because, to me, Loki isn’t just an MCU character. He is representation.
He was a survivor of abuse and scapegoating by his own family. He was an outsider who defied convention and took on great challenges, despite everyone in his world trying to push him down. He shirked the role he was forced to play and chose to define himself instead. He saw the hate and scorn directed at him from all sides and laughed.
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He struck out on his own into the unknown—which is incredibly hard to do, even if you had been given the support to believe in yourself.
The Loki Series did get one thing right: Loki is a survivor. He’s survived misinterpretations before, and he will survive Disneyfication. Maybe the public will tolerate a warped mischaracterization of him for a while before they lose interest, but the God of Mischief prevails. Thor1 Loki will always be there, smirking triumphantly from the shadows.
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Loki shows symptoms of BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder). How the warriors 3 and sif might have contributed to Loki developing BPD
1. Constant Criticism: Lady Sif and the Warrior Three have been known to belittle , mistreat and even physically abuse Loki, which could have led to chronic feelings of inadequacy and low self-worth, common symptoms of BPD.
2. Rejection and Alienation: Being constantly ostracized and treated as an outsider by individuals he grew up with, such as Sif and the Warrior Three, may have led to feelings of abandonment and rejection, which are also characteristic of BPD.
3. Unstable Relationships: Loki’s tumultuous relationships with those around him, especially with Sif and the Warrior Three, could have contributed to his struggle with maintaining stable relationships, a hallmark feature of BPD.
4. Emotional Dysregulation: The intense emotional reactions and outbursts that often characterize BPD may have been exacerbated by the ongoing conflicts and mistreatment from Sif and the Warrior Three, leading to difficulties in managing his emotions effectively.
5. Identity Disturbance: Loki’s struggle with his identity could have been further exacerbated by the rejection and alienation he experienced from individuals like Sif and the Warrior Three, contributing to identity disturbances commonly seen in BPD. Sif tells Loki that he will always be alone and he deserves to be alone instead of saying things like maybe he could change for the better. Sif calls Loki a “conniving, craven, pathetic worm," adding, "You deserve to be alone and you always will be." loki admits to slyvie that he is scared to be alone. Sif must have noticed this but instead of supporting loki as a friend should she uses his weakness to attack him.
I personally think sif and the warriors 3 are great warriors but not great people! The warriors & Sif contributed to loki’s mental illness so they are not great friends to loki.
Why loki choose to hang out with them and calls them his friends, i would never know? They are not his friends, they are thor friends.
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I hate how normalized it has become for the people writing Loki to belittle his arc. everyone after the dark world seems to see him as this stubborn annoying pest who keeps acting out and betraying thor for no reason. in ragnarok this is shown through thor's elevator speech and subsequent obedience disk scene where he flat out says that he is tired of dealing with loki. and in the series everyone shuts down any nuanced discussion of his feelings or actions with the idea that he is a narcissist.
no one has acknowledged since TDW that all of loki's actions and feelings, wrong and immoral though some of them may have been, all came from real circumstances and events that happened to him. I hate how everyone seems to have just forgotten that he had an actual arc and really interesting and tragic motivations in favor of just going heehoo he is an evil trickster
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musclesandhammering · 11 months
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What irritates the hell out of me is that Loki has been described multiple times canonically as “the most powerful sorcerer in Asgard” and yet his powers are depicted the way that they are.
Asgard. A realm built around magic. And Loki is their most powerful sorcerer. He should be just as strong as Wanda tbh.
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Hi, I just want to ask about the tags I've seen on one of the Loki posts (screen below, because I dont know what I'm doing, I rarely sand messages on tumblr). Could you explain the S-H part and how it relates to his attire when you have some time (and want to explain of course)? Thank you!
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Hello! Thank you for sending me an ask!
So, to explain why I honestly think Loki does self-harm...
Look at Loki's attire in Thor 1...
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And then look at The Warriors Three attire...(Images)
And Thor's...
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In the scene where we see Loki confess about telling Odin, all of The Warriors Three are either wearing thin clothing or showing skin of some sort. It's also worth noting that they're sitting around a fire in the scene. So, the room that they're in is by no means cold, yet Loki is still completely covered from the neck down. All that viewers, and other supporting characters, are able to see is his head and his hands.
Now, if we compare Loki's attire to Thor's when he visits him at the S.H.I.E.L.D base, we can see that Loki is wearing several layers just like he was on Asgard when, base off of how other characters are dress, it's not necessary. While Thor is on Earth, we see him only really wear a jacket and/or flannel and short sleeve t-shirt for most if not the entire the time he's there. This causes me to speculate that Asgardians have higher body temperatures than humans since he clearly doesn't require several layers to stay warm. (Darcy is literally in the background wearing a skull cap and coat and possibly even a scarf, and Thor is out here in a t-shirt and flannel 🙄).
Keep in mind that Loki is also a Jotun, and the planet that they originate from is colder than the Antarctic. When we see him, Thor and The Warriors Three go to Jotunheim, Heimdall makes a comment that Loki isn't dress warmly enough. Clearly it isn't required for Loki wear much to stave off the cold. This detail most likely means that because of Loki's Jotun biology (and arguably his Asgardian biology), the cold doesn't bother him. Therefore, the amount of layers we see him wear in the movie, again, isn't necessary.
That begs the question...If Loki doesn't get cold, why does he dress the way that he does?
It's simple really, he's hiding something. It's not uncommon for people who self-harm to try and hide their scars from others. People also may self-harm for an assortment of reasons. Whether it be because they are depressed, anxious, seeking attention and/or possibly suicidal (and according to Thor 1, it can also be debated that Loki was/is suicidal as well). My entire blog really is just a series of repetitive in-depth analyses of the psychological problems Loki suffers from because of, really ALL of Asgard but specifically, Heimdall, The Warriors Three, Thor, Frigga and especially Odin. (My Loki Series Analysis summarizes a lot if not all of the main points I make on my blog). The Thor 1 movie just gives you a sneak peak/summary of what Loki has no doubt had to deal with for centuries. Between being talked over, ignored, underappreciated, neglected, misunderstood, isolated, outcast, gaslit and possibly physically abused (Odin's fist raise), coupled with being abducted and being raised to believe that the species he originated from are a race of horrible monsters, how much he struggles in the movie and in his overall life is understandable. Loki is painfully aware that he is different from other Asgardians and this bothers him. In reality, Loki understands that self-harming in not a normal thing for people to do and, based on the fact that he's hiding, he feels embarrassed that he does it. There could even be a fear factor included since he might not know how people would react if he were to tell them, or he may already know that the people around him won't take it very well if they care at all! As a result, Loki hides.
I hope this answered your question and makes sense! Thank you again for sending me this ask! 💌😁
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delyth88 · 1 day
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Ugh. I made the mistake of image searching "loki infinity war". :'(
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zombie4life92 · 2 years
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What do you expect from Marvel? Coherent Storytelling? Character not OOC? Not so many plotholes in a Story?
Sorry, that was once reality (see Phase 1 and 2) 🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️
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incantation-sigyn · 2 years
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I miss those times back when he really defended Loki.
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The loki show ships just really suck and this is coming from someone who literally ships every enemies to lovers ship to ever exist but loki and sylvie have to be the cringest most boring ship in this trope that I actually can't believe Disney took a relationship between the god of mischief and goddess of mischief and managed to make it so horrendously BORING
Like why does loki have to act like this empty shell of his former self just so they can convince us "he is now soft and in love"?
With that being said i definitely don't mean this as an attack to the shippers they are more than welcome to have fun with this ship but please can they just stop pretending everybody who doesn't ship them is tasteless or doesn't know how to "have fun"
Same goes to lokius fans whose arguments seem to boil down to (Loki doesn't deserve to be in a toxic heterosexual relationship he deserves to be in a toxic homosexual relationship 🥰💕) just have fun with your ships but never write any sort of metas about them ever for god's sake cause they just sound so dumb and it's getting tiring to hold on to this fandom any longer
Ok if you got this far thanks for reading my long ass rant and also Hello, You're one of the few blogs that i came across that doesn't defend this complete assassination of loki's character!!!
The biggest sinners in the whole TV show debacle are the writers. THEY decided to slowly bring down Loki's character progress and dignity, and THEY chose to keep Tom out of the creative process, when he's the one who made a whole career out of the part. I bet he wasn't wholly on board with the direction they were taking Sylvie and Loki. There is no way a man who speaks about a role with such passion and admiration would ever approve of "she's a female YOU! Lol oh that narcissistic Loki could only EVER love himself!"
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Thing is, I kind of get why they wanted Loki to get a girlfriend, fan service and all. Loki DID kind of become the underground sex symbol of the MCU. They would've felt pressure from focus group hacks to do SOMETHING with Loki's romantic life if they were going to keep wringing appearances out of him like a sponge. But there were already so many characters they could have worked with, including his WIFE, MISTRESSES, and, oh yeah, a ROLE THEY HAD CAST AND THEN DELETED (Amora the Enchantress), and instead they went with "Loki could only ever respond romantically to himself so let's create a whole new character who has no personality, heart, or anything Loki needs or would be attracted to, and shove her down everyone's throats as Phase Four's Breakout Tragic Romance, which is the single biggest insult that surrounds Sylvie's creation and execution.
At first, I thought the show was going to be a metaphor for horrible systemic treatment of abuse victims via the failing bureaucracy of government. That would have rocked so hard. It STARTED to seem that way. It could have been about Loki standing up for himself and finding vindication through action and forgiveness for those he wronged. He could have even found vindication through a love story if IT HAD BEEN DONE RIGHT! Then they just made it all about Sylvie, Sylvie, Sylvie and how gosh darn wonderful she is.
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Also, there was no fun, aside from arguably seeing the other Lokis in the void. Loki's character was always sinister with a lot of angst, but he was also FUN! He had creative costumes and ways of doing things. Tom Hiddleston has amazing facial expressions and scene presence when he's allowed to use it and not shrink back into it. The show should have been much more pleasant and visually engaging to match Loki, but instead, they threw him down a volcano and took what came out as his 'new look' and attitude. I think if he met Thor again, Thor would think Loki was lobotomized, and Thor 5 would be all about the search for proper mental health emergency resourcers (as long as they skipped the screeching goats).
Ah, I love a good rant on a Monday morning! :)
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disneyanddisneyships · 5 months
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.... I'm sorry yall-
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valeron99 · 5 months
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Don't forget to take a ticket.
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lelliefant · 6 months
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Why i think sif boldy physically abuses loki
I think she does it because of her sense of entitlement. Sif’s sense of entitlement as Thor’s friend stems from her close association with him, which grants her certain privileges and status within Asgardian society. As Thor’s companion and fellow warrior, Sif likely enjoys a degree of influence and respect, both from other Asgardians and within the royal family. This elevated position may lead to a sense of entitlement, wherein Sif feels justified in her actions and opinions due to her proximity to Thor and her perceived importance in Asgardian affairs. Consequently, Sif may view herself as superior to Loki, particularly if she believes that her relationship with Thor grants her authority or immunity from consequences. This sense of entitlement could manifest in behaviors such as dismissiveness, condescension, or even outright hostility towards Loki, whom she may regard as beneath her or unworthy of her respect.
I think am the only one that has issues with sif and the warriors 3😔
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Facts:
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