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#look tm9 had morals but they were all over the place
annemarieyeretzian · 2 years
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So glad to see your posts about C3 E29. For the first time watching CR, I’m legitimately angry with how we got here. I honestly can’t tell if it’s because the cast doesn’t want to be rude to a guest & friend or if it’s because no one in this party has a high Intelligence score. There’s been instances where they’ve been given crumbs and it’s an honest 50/50 of the direction the plot heads like with VM in Kraghammer with Clarota vs Kima in terms of the hivemind and the fact the group was split or when they asked the clasp to help Emon after the Chroma Conclave. Even TM9 have had their moments with the Mistake incident at the docks and the whole Beacon after Beacon after Beacon mishaps. It still angers me they thought a Beacon in the hands of the CA wouldn’t result into something like Ashton and thought it would be fine to stop a war that wasn’t really going to stop just because it was convenient for them.
I get those choices, those where group choices with everybody having a say for the most part with big pockets of backstory or reasoning to justify their choices. What the Hells did is absolutely insane to me. Especially when you take into consideration that they wanted to address the murder rampages that happened in C1&2 which they were doing pretty well with by having furniture and mimics be the bad guys. Even Dugger who was humanoid at one point was justified w/ Bertrand’s death and the fact we knew he murdered others and then once more with Imogen looking into Lady Emoth Kade’s mind and it being feral and such like there was no humanity left to call them humans anymore. So the fact that they were literally only there in the first place to find Treshi related to illegal and immoral experimentation, political corruption, and murders only to get side tracked by someone pleading for help to which the Hells jump right into combat and just??? KILL ALMOST ALL OF THEM???
This is there first time with a group of people in combat and they don’t bother to talk it out like they do with Yu & Birdie, but decide to jump to murder. And none of them checked to see if the ones they knocked down were maybe even alive. They left one pinned alive to a wall and then got some lunch. That was the first time these character where in a situation like that, that was the first time these characters claimed a human life and the ONLY conversation about it was “were they bad people” and the response was something like “assume everyone here is bad” like what??? Ashton can be all self-deprecating he wants but it honestly seemed like Imogen was more upset about losing her hair then killing 3? people.
It honestly doesn’t sit right with me at all, I get it, guest character, but really, you’re not even going to talk about it?? You don’t find it weird they aren’t fazed by you or think you’re dangerous? Matt brought in others to help create this city of predominantly POC people and you borderline excuse murder because it’s a shady town with shady people feels really wrong. You all barely know each other, a month is not long enough for “found family” and such. Half of what the audience has seen majority of the table’s characters don’t know about each other. Dusk’s arrival could’ve been a real pot-stir if this group was a bit more morally bound but it really seems only Orym had the slightest bit of remorse for killing the one guy during that fight. They’ve had days, several conversations individually and as a group w/ Dusk and not a single one of them pegged that they kept repeating the same story like it was rehearsed and they couldn’t come up with any specifics to really liven it up. Yes, they played really well into the sisters angle with Fearne but I just don’t understand any of their other games. Even when they met Birdie at Joe’s and Dusk revealed themselves as Yu they all literally could not stop talking over each other. They all took it so personally that they were betrayed by someone they blindly trusted with no real interrogation—not even as half as intense as the one they did to Chetney—and completely forgot (unlike Orym, who definitely was tying the strings together and could have killed Yu but decided to protect Fearne considering how emotionally vulnerable she was) that they were only there to support Fearne’s reunion with her mother. A mother who is doing what she’s doing out of compassion, love, care, and sacrificing time away for her daughter unlike the Unseelie spy who is just one of hundreds? of on-the-ready servants with no real personal stake other than a bad job review. Blows my mind Yu lived to walk away but Birdie got bashed.
Birdie is very much like Veth or Marion in all this, a mother trying to do what’s best for her child even if she’s going at it a little bit wrong. Birdie and Fearne really deserve some time next episode to just talk by themselves and share their stories without all the extra voices cutting in. I’ve honestly lost some respect for the other Hells due to that fiasco. The worst half episode to sit through live.
annamaggs16 there is so much I want to respond to here because this is such an excellent articulation of so much of what was so upsetting to watch (honestly print this out and hang it in the fucking louvre!!! it’s perfect!!!) but for now I'm going to say: ‘For the first time watching CR, I’m legitimately angry with how we got here.’ HARD SAME ‘Matt brought in others to help create this city of predominantly POC people and you borderline excuse murder because it’s a shady town with shady people feels really wrong.’ YES 'I’ve honestly lost some respect for the other Hells due to that fiasco.' HARD SAME
I am getting ‘They all took it so personally that they were betrayed by someone they blindly trusted with no real interrogation—not even as half as intense as the one they did to Chetney—and completely forgot (unlike Orym, who definitely was tying the strings together and could have killed Yu but decided to protect Fearne considering how emotionally vulnerable she was) that they were only there to support Fearne’s reunion with her mother.' tattooed on my fucking forehead
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mockingmolly · 3 years
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The fact that these five are so morally-motivated and largely crime-adverse is such a funny trait from a dnd party, especially coming off the tail end of The Mighty “what the fuck is our moral compass” Nein
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