#lucy saxon

[lazer-screwdriver]

The Master not realizing the dinner party he had to go to had a main dish that included (what is it that gets time lords drunk? Ginger? That) and ending up absolutely hammered on accident. Having a terrible time trying to keep his composure the rest of the night & ending up sitting in the backseat of his fancy car looking like this

& asking his driver to call Lucy bc he’s so stressed and he misses her sooo much (the driver doesn’t have her number) (he saw her 3 hours ago)

#he’s a clingy drunk I know this in my soul and when there’s no one to be clingy to he gets SAD #zap.txt #Lucy Saxon #simm!master

[mothmanyeetus]

Thought I’d share these with everyone

Doctor Who X Jennamarbles (quotes/video titles

#the master #doctor who #the doctor #13th doctor #12th doctor #missy #dhawan!master #k9 #4th doctor #3rd doctor #7th doctor #lucy saxon #simm!master #doctor x master #jenna marbles #jenna and julien #jnj #incorrect quotes #dw #thoschei #graham o'brien #jack harkness #captain jack harkness

[casasupernovas]

as fun as it is to makes jokes and memes out of sextual tension between companions, especially when it comes to ten and rose, it is really funny when you remember that ultimtately the doctor *does* think it's completely inappropriate.

when the police man asks nine if his relationship with rose was sexual he was flabbergasted. even after rose/cassandra kiss, you can hear the kill bill siren going off (after the 'still got it' line). he is completely scandalised at martha thinking he was trying to seduce her. when the doctor finds out the master is masquerading as prime minister, he's more shocked at the fact that he has a human wife. he said yOuRe BaNgINg YoUr CoMpANiOn?!?!!?!

#doctor who #martha jones #tenth doctor #10th doctor #rose tyler #ninth doctor #9th doctor #the master #harold saxon #lucy saxon

[roxannepolice]

hi!!! hows it goin i’m here to dump my thoughts about simm!master/lucy vs ten and martha cause i have MANY. also a disclaimer before i begin that i’m white and that likely does color my experience as a viewer compared to a BIPOC viewer. anyways: i’ll start with ten and martha because by sound of drums we’ve spent all season watching them and its that already established dynamic which i think lucy/saxon are meant to parallel in a way. you have ten very much still grieving rose and his entire planet, which makes him try and push away any new companions for a bit. but he’s still looking for - and i think needs, in a way - this kind of connection where he can depend on someone, and ideally they could depend on him. however. ten sucks at this second bit. for the entire season. so he’s in need of this connection despite not wanting any whatsoever, emotional intelligence completely out the window right now since he’s grieving x2, and martha unfortunately walks in right in the middle of this. so you get this dynamic really starting from i’d say the shakespeare code wherein martha is carrying a lot of the weight in their relationship. ten will entrust her with the most deeply personal shit (like his memories of gallifrey, his feelings on losing rose, even in 42 where he’s like "i’m scared i’m so scared" where he depends on martha for emotional support) and then when martha’s like hey can i get some support here or something ten’s like “uh sorry all out too busy being sad” i mean that's a bit exaggerated/summarized but thats the vibe they have. in the beginning he doesn't even admit she’s traveling with him! he’s all “just one trip” “just one more” and refuses to make a concrete decision that martha really needs him to make already. and despite this emotional unavailability shtick ten still relies on martha quite a bit! off the top of my head you have 42(martha freezing/unfreezing ten as he screams in pain), blink (they get sent back to the 1960s… and only martha gets a job???), and. human nature. wherein martha endures racial abuse alongside lesser shitty working conditions in order to ensure the doctor doesn't get his body possessed or something. and in the middle of it this human version of the doctor falls in love with another woman(after basically uh leading her on for the whole fucking season) (sure maybe unintentionally but that's not the point here) who. also was racist to her she's not even a nice person. and her only friend in this godawful place gets possessed. and human doctors a dick to her. and i think. i reflect on it and i come to the conclusion that ten very much does expect martha to just… do his job for him sometimes. handle all the dirty work like making sure human him doesn't get distracted or hurt or die. and still immediately after is like haha we are in 1960 now. i will not get a job what is that. why do you want me to “communicate” or “pull my weight” you’re traveling across space and time lol.

and the master and lucy are a darker extension of this dynamic that i actually haven't really seen people talk about much!! the master is very clear about why he married lucy, and there is no love/admiration/respect whatsoever in there. it is purely a means to an end - her family gets him influence, and she helps him carry out his plans. he gives nothing to lucy, only takes. which is in itself a mirror to ten & martha - the audience knows ten isn’t intending to be malicious in how he treats martha throughout the series, but when paralleled to lucy & the master i think you really get a sense of the harm this can cause down the line. what resentment this kind of dynamic can lead to. and ALL THE WHILE martha is walking the entire planet for a year to save all of humanity while ten hangs out aged 100 with his little tent & dog bowl & seething sorta-ex-husband-boyfriend-whatever. i mean he doesn't have the best time either but he also doesn't have to do that much and also is perhaps a bit too happy about not being the last time lord to fully grasp that hey, uh, humanity's in pretty dire straits right now. martha watches as the master turns earth into a living nightmare, slaughters millions of people on a whim, turns ten into a 900-year-old tweety bird, and tortures her family for a year, only for ten to go “guys dw i can fix him lol we’ll just live in the tardis for eternity together” as if she hadn't had to fight for that too. and ten is still shocked-pikachu-face when she goes “yeah no i’m leaving. i gotta get out.” and that is very much similar to lucy's moment in a way! where she sees the doctor forgiving(without really considering everybody else's opinion on the Past Year), martha's mom talked down from killing him, even Jack is talked down from his confusion at the whole idea, and i think in that moment she goes. okay. you guys can forgive. you guys can let him walk away having just taken, taken, taken everything without any repercussions. i meanwhile have this gun and two years of pent-up rage coursing through my veins. and both of these moments - martha leaving, lucy firing the gun - come at a shock to the doctor and the master. i mean you can see the master's little "oh" face when he gets shot. even if he plays it up like he expected it after i don't think he considered it before. and i think on a certain level neither really expected to be called out like this - ten because he’s got the emotional intelligence of a baseball bat, the master because he doesn’t think humans are capable of wiping their own asses - so in both of these moments in LoTL theyre like "wait i didn't know you could do that"

anyways tl;dr thats why i think lucy and the master are a darker parallel to the doctor and martha in their own way. which feeds into the rest of the finale where the master is just showing the natural extremes to who the doctor is - this is that toxic dependency taken to its natural worst possible place, where you treat someone as a tool rather than as a person. the master's generally a great foil to the doctor but the series 3 finale is just a fantastic example of it i think.

OMG, thank you so much for sharing your thoughts like this! And I love your thought process here so much.

First, absolutely, Martha is the case of right person, wrong time... which is probably what makes hers my favourite companion arc - as I like to put it she travelled through hell and pulled her Virgil (because yes, the Doctor absolutely always has this guide role that brings Virgil to mind, at least in companions' first episodes) to the Earthly Paradise in the process. There's a lot of debates going on about whether Ten was leading Martha on, because on the one hand - well, he's very clear he's not into her romantically, on the other - ok, bitch, you made it clear the kiss doesn't mean anything, but also you hit off with flirtatious winks and end showing off time travel while also casually showing off your Adam's apple. Yeah, a girl can make deductions. And you're right that this superficial frankness is mirrorred in Master's relation to Lucy - though if anything he's crrepily keen on playing a caring husband, what with the 100% performative hug he gives her while the Toclafane are hacking a journalist up. Though I suppose in his head this is what the Doctor does as well when they comfort their companions. And let's give it to Ten - when he said he's not going to let Martha *checks notes* fry in a small capsule in far space because of a sentient sun, he does bend head over tits and does as promised. But historically it has happened that the Doctor's reassurances were hollow (future, but kind of most painful in Twelve assuring Bill he's going to de-cybermanize her only to later admit yeah not really an option... considering Saxon was there to witness this, I wonder if he marked this in his Notebook (of Rassilon) of Spiting the Doctor).

Ten's handling of the chameleon arch is kind of pathetic, thanks for pointing that out! Like, ok - if the Family gets a whole Time Lord lifetime it is a genuine threat to the universe, but his attitude of oh I'm just going to spend three months as a human in a random timespace, what could possibly go wrong, and anyway, Martha will be there to clean up any mess? is a mess. I do like John Smith's romance with nurse Radfem, though, not in the sense of shipping them, but more of an appreciation of the concept: a classic victorian/edwardian romance, but when you look at it from the persective of a BIPOC servant... it kind of becomes apparent both parties are dickheads. This does tie back to the Master in a way, because I think... want to think... that by the time the Doctor went oh no, we're better than a tyrant maniac that spent a whole year destroying the planet and torturing everyone in the room specifically, so we're not going to execute him, I'm going to put him in my nice spaceship and we'll have nice cuddle movie evenings instead, she was already hardened by the fact that he put her in an (unintentionally) tailor made emotional torture room for three months only to later reveal oh yeah, I could absolutely have handled them all along. Is just higher moral ground, innit?

I guess as all best foils do, the clue lies in the diffrences, though, right? Both Martha and Lucy end up deeply disillusioned with their respective semi-immortal twinks from space, but in one case there is still a disillusioned friendship (Ten's surprised Pikachu face, excellent comparion) and in the other there's only hate - and for good reasons! And where the Doctor grows to really respect Martha (and I wouldn't say he started off dismissive, I mean he is impressed when she tells him oh no mister, a doctor isn't something you just are, you have to earn the title) and is not just saddened but... humbled?... by her leaving, the Master shows up in EoT and is like Hey, my widow, did you miss me, hope you haven't remarried, that would be awkward to explain in the registry office :D!

*sigh* I suppose this is why tensimm is so special to me. It's 20 seasons of foil dynamic condensed into 5 hours. It really shows how thin the difference between the Doctor and the Master is. And how in the right circumstances, including the loss of the handy mirror villain to show how things can go wrong, a madman with a box can turn into an eldritch horror deciding the future of the universe. So, again, thank you so much for poining out yet another excellent parallel!

#ask #ahh i hope the answer was worthy of the ask because your analysis is so. good! #doctor who #doctor who meta #thoschei #tensimm #tenth doctor #simm!master #martha jones #lucy saxon #doctor who season 3

[etherealspacejelly]

new headcannon just dropped: lucy saxon is a femme lesbian and the master is her he/she/they genderfluid girlboyfriend

#time lords are pure gender fuckery #they are all pansexual and genderfluid because. it wouldnt make sense for them to be anything else #doctor who #the master #doctor who headcanon #headcanon #lucy saxon #lgbt #genderfluid #this is basically canon argue with the wall

[please-attend-carefully]

What are people's thoughts on Lucy Saxon? We discussed her in our recent episode, but I don't think we reached a satisfactory conclusion.

Was she complicent? Hypnotised the entire time? Or just swept up in the whirlwind of Harold Saxon until it was too late to escape?

I'd love to hear other people's take on her as a character.

#lucy saxon #simm!master #harold saxon #doctor who #the master #whoniverse #doctor who podcast #please attend carefully

[txrdish]

pair: thoschei (tensimm/saxteen)

tags: human au, 5+1 things

chapter: 6/6

series: whoman office au™

description:

It's a gala, what a perfect time to let Harry do the small talk... right?

#whoman tensimm au™ #thoschei #lucy saxon #the master #the doctor #tenth doctor #tensimm #simm master #doctor x master #doctor who #saxteen #fourteenth doctor

[ramseynatural]

POV You’re the Doctor in a universe where Lucy got treated marginally better during tytnw, now receiving two wives for the price of one

Red is her color too :)

#the master #Lucy saxon

[clanoffelidae]

As much as I totally get that the Master was being shown as a domestic abuser as much as they were allowed to for a family program in ‘The Last Of The Time Lords’, I choose to instead believe that he was just extremely reactive due to, you know, having just run away from a war that scared and traumatized him so severely that he disguised himself as a human at the END OF THE FUCKING UNIVERSE in order to hide from it, and Lucy just tried to hug him from behind or something when he didn’t know she was there and so he immediately threw a punch on reflex; because it is infinitely funnier to me that way.

Lucy: -walking up behind the master- good morning hone- :)

The Master, an extremely anxiety-ridden and traumatized war veteran who just escaped said war: AH- -throws a punch on instinct-

Lucy:

The Master: DON’T FUCKING DO THAT

Lucy:

The Master: -clutching at his hearts as he tries to calm down-

Lucy: that’s it i’m shooting him

Like it’s just so much funnier to me that way. Free my man he did everything wrong but I don’t care.

#doctor who #the master #lucy saxon #like oh i get what canon was trying to imply #but they never said it directly so i get to play in the wiggle room and have fun #simm!master #this is also why he was shaking his hand afterwards #cause he was hurling a punch on panicked reflex so hurt himself too lol #cause considering how much stronger time lords are than humans you would think he wouldn’t be hurting #after punching one #unless he was just going for it on fear #the real miracle here is that lucy survived with only a bruise to show for it tbh #like even in canon if a TIME LORD threw a punch hard enough to feel it #it’s a miracle lucy walked out with only a bruise #send her to unit she’s got something going on fr #this headcanon features prominently in my celestial dimensions au as well #and leads to a funny exchange of #martha: i mean. you know how he treated lucy… #the doctor: oh no- that wasn’t- (knows this is about to hurt) here i’ll show you #and then takes a punch by spooking the master for the bit #and they say man has commitment issues #pshaw

[casa-supernova]

have fun with this little dumb video i made on doctor who series 3

#i also uploaded it to youtube #doctor who #series 3 #tenth doctor #10th doctor #tenmartha #captain jack #baines #lucy saxon #the master #42 #the shakespeare code #tallulah #evolution of the daleks #daleks in manhattan #francine jones #memes #jokes #lol #humour #funny #david tennant #freema agyeman #rtd era

[time-like-tears-in-rain]

Anyone else insane over the Lucy Saxon/Rose Tyler parallels? Blonde human woman partnered with a time lord, both present at watching a world get destroyed, both inherently changed by it, and both were the death and rebirth of their time lord. Their stories were the same but completley opposite. Please tell me someone else is insane about this?????

#rose tyler #lucy saxon

[lazer-screwdriver]

I’ll never be able to get over the fact the master had, for ~18 months, a presumably normal human marriage. Do you think he got yelled at for leaving the toilet seat up.

#I don’t think he’s very good at love but he must have liked her or why bother right? #the image of him in bed with reading glasses on skimming some document before bed #waiting for Lucy to be done in the bathroom so he can turn the light out #do u think hed wake up in the middle of the night sometimes because she stole all the blankets. do you think sometimes he let her keep them. #what the fuck. #simm!master #zap.txt #Lucy Saxon #I should have a Lucy Saxon tag she means so much to me

[lucky-clover-gazette]

lucy saxon is like #1 criminally ignored fictional character to me. she’s literally like a dark reflection of the typical companion. how have we not talked about that more

#dw #doctor who #lucy saxon

[casasupernovas]

this ish is deep yo. of course the doctor doesn't consider this or care to know exactly what martha is honing in on here.

martha makes the very astute (and meta) observation that recently, blonde white woman appear to take precedent over her space and life while she is left to pick up the pieces.

who is the one her siblings call to try and sort out the inevitable disaster that will be clive their father bringing his mistress to his son's 21st? martha.

who is the one called a liar and in their 'defence' of martha, the entire family literally splits up leaving martha alone? martha acts as the peacemaker but the whole thing blows up and she is left by herself.

fast forward to 'human nature.' john falls for joan, something that almost derails the doctor and martha's whole plan. and who bears the brunt of this the thing? all for joan, and martha is labelled his executioner.

and after all of that, who is still relegated to second?

then finally, rose.

the woman she has been negatively compared to all season. even at one point, by the master himself. who also gets himself a blonde companion because he's not ticking any diversity boxes like the doctor (his words not mine.)

like i said. an astute observation. this isn't a dig at the doctor's preference, but this is a dig at how martha's animosity is often viewed (mainly by the doctor and the narrative) as purely surface level jealousy when it's actually quite deep and a little gut wrenching.

#doctor who #martha jones #meta #annalise #clive jones #leo jones #leticia jones #francine jones #tenmartha #10th doctor #tenth doctor #joan redfern #john smith #human nature #the family of blood #the master #lucy saxon #rose tyler

[idkaguyorsomething]

happy valentine’s day but only to my rarepairs who have maybe shared a frame in a single scene for a few seconds maximum:

(IMAGE ID: Anybodys and Chino from West Side Story 2021)

(IMAGE ID: Martha Jones and Lucy Saxon from Doctor Who)

you could’ve been foils in another story, perhaps.

#you’ll have to pry these out from my cold dead hands #doctor who #martha jones #lucy saxon #the “life ruined by a time lord clearly pining for someone else” ladies #west side story #wss #wss 2021 #west side story 2021 #chino #anybodys #the “pretty nice but my gang won’t let me join and society hates me” fellas

[please-attend-carefully]

#doctor who #whoniverse #doctor who podcast #lucy saxon #missy #the master