#macusa

[jlhynde-insanitybrilliance]

UDLTTOM WORLDBUILDING RAMBLES: American Wizarding Society vs British Wizarding Society

This is like the 3rd installment of what is quickly becoming a series of long ranting posts about the lore surrounding Harry Potter & a current time-travel au I'm writing on AO3. But you don't need to have read the previous two posts to understand this one. (I still link them for those interested: pt 1, pt 2, pt. 3.) .

I think it's been fairly established that JK doesn't have much awareness of anything outside of Britain when it comes to world building. I've seen posts discussing how unrealistic the magical schools are and such. (Which obviously there can't be just 11 schools. I refuse to believe it. It exceeds my suspension of disbelief.) But this post isn't about that, but the whole societal structure of the American Wizarding society as a whole. I recently started watching my through the Fantastic Beasts films (I know I'm late to the show.) and as an American I can't help but to address some of this...

There's a lot to address & I'm sorry if this post gets a off on some tangents. But I'm just gonna jump right in with the things that bother me most.

1)The MACUSA reeks of British colonization.

As we all know, North America wasn't unpopulated when people from Europe started arriving. Native Americans, the Mayans, the Aztecs, Inuit people, and while some of them were nomadic others had established cities & advanced communities for that day in age. It was the religious zealot Protestants, aka Puritians, being driven out of England that pushed into these communities and brought with them this harmful religious dogma and pushed these people out of the homes and their lands. Like if you read into any of these cultures and their histories, you'll see that these communities were accepting of magic and in the HP world were probably very much wizards themselves.

And so the MACUSA doesn't make sense to me having been founded before the American Revolution, but after the Salem Witch Trials because in all likelihood wizards were being persecuted long before all that. Like I can't believe that the indigenous communities wouldn't have formed some sort of collective in order to combat these foreign invaders from overseas—Especially if they were wizards.

I mean so there had to be something before that, right? Like in all likelihood what I see happening is that these British wizards pushed themselves in with the Puritians (for whatever reason) and in the process brought with them their backwards views on muggles & blood politics & classism which wasn't a part of the original society. Because if you look at the indigenous histories you'll see that medicine men/women were respected members of their communities. Wizards and Muggles lived alongside each other just fine. But then the colonizers came & ruined that harmonious dynamic between the magical and nonmagical.

And that it's called the Magical Congress of the United States of America...It doesn't make sense unless that name came about after the American Revolution. Because before that it was referred to as the 13 colonies. Then it also took some time after the American Revolution for the 13 colonies to expand into the United States. (American didn't get all 50 states until 1959 with the purchase of Alaska from Russia and the forceful occupation of Hawaii.)

It makes more sense that there was a power struggle between two or more opposing Magical governments for the control of the Americas. And this would lead to a sort of Wizarding Civil War. Between the indigenous magical communities and the British, & Spanish, & French Colonies. It's a big place, huge. & it would be diced up and divided I think much more than than the muggle/no-maj community/government is.

The MACUSA being only on the East Coast makes more sense to me. (It also explains how there can only be one wizarding school in MA.) And how that school is a sister school of Hogwarts & how they are structured so similarly. Because watching the Fantastic Beasts films I don't feel like I'm watching American wizards, it more feels like I'm watching British Wizards with American accents.

And then the rest of the country is split up into districts or regions (much like it is in real life with: East Coast, Deep South, West Coast, Midwest.) where the indigenous practices and cultures are still prevalent.

I also don't buy into this idea that France and Spain would abandon their stake on the Continent. So in reality, it's more believable that Spanish Wizards would control Florida and expand all the way up to Arkansas, French wizards would Have control of Louisiana & Mississippi, East Texas, parts of Oklahoma, the British Wizards would have the colonies & maybe parts of the Great Lakes area like Illinois or Ohio, and then the rest of North America would be divided up into different territories amongst the indigenous communities.

Which then brings me to the second thing that bothers me: Rappaport's Law.

2) Rappaport's Law is a heavy-handed allegory for Jim Crowe & Segregation Laws.

As a white person, there's a lot in this topic that I am likely under informed and underqualified to unpack. It is a subject that would be better dissected by someone who understands the cultural histories and nuances better than me. But I read up a lot on random histories (because my Adhd brain leads me down some interesting research rabbit holes & I find myself fascinated by lore histories and folktales.) And I've learned a bit about the various histories pertaining to the Trans Atlantic Slave trade and how things like Voodoo made their way to America through the enslavement of various African tribes.

And again back to the British colonization, slaves were sold to the British by rival tribes & then some of those people made their way to North America when the colonies were formed , but that there was also a significant number of slaves that were indigenous to North America as well.

But how the indigenous communities were structured and how the tribal communities were structure were not all that dissimilar from each other. They both have an awareness of magic and similar spiritual practices. Again magic coexisting with muggles and what makes the most sense was that rival tribes would in fact sell the wizards into slavery and keep the squib/no-maj members of the village because they were less of a threat.

Which in turn would lead to most of the magical communities in North America being POC. Like honestly, I think they are the majority in the Americas. And the Rappaport Law, preventing the intermingling of no-majs & wizards would be heavily criticized because of the similarities to Jim Crowe and Segregation Laws.

And you might try to argue that because of the Statute of Secrecy, wizards wouldn't have any awareness of those muggle laws. But I argue that because of Slavery and most of the wizards being either slaves or negatively impacted by the European settlers would be very, very aware of those laws and prejudices & be actively fighting against them.

Like it was wizards creating and maintaining the underground railroad. It was wizards getting other wizards out and getting them away, regardless of whether or not they were magical because they were all slaves. And they would in fact still have muggles living side-by-side with them in these magical communities and spitting in the face of the Statute of Secrecy. And entire generations of no-majs would live and die in these communities and possibly even leave these communities to assimilate with other muggles and what not, but the American wizards would not be as cut off from the no-maj world like their British counterparts are.

3) Blood Politics would never be able to take root there.

Because most of them are unable to trace back their own bloodlines. It's why Americans don't have house elves working for them because it's Slavery, which they spent centuries combating and trying to escape. And why Grindelwald couldn't gain a foothold there because he was European and was actively killing muggleborns, squibs, no-majs like that wasn't their own people.

And this would also mean that, technologically, the magical communities in North America are more advanced. They are not stagnating like they are in Britain. Wizards are not a dying breed. They have a healthy growing population and low inbreeding rates, and advancements in magic and no-maj sciences. It's the sort of strength Grindelwald and Voldemort would want to recruit for their causes, but with how the majority of the continent is structured would never be able to.

[thank you for coming to my tedtalk.]

#hp fandom #harry potter #harry potter meta #udlttom #udlttom worldbuilding rambles #north america wizards vs british wizards #tomarry fic #time travel au #macusa #rambling thoughts on wizards in north america #non canon compliant #poc in harry potter verse

[exasperatedtinagoldstein]

Tina: I hate politics.

Newt: Love, you’re MACUSA’s president.

Tina, laying across his lap dramatically: don’t remind me.

#fantastic beasts #newt scamander #it’s the fantastic beasts hot mess express #tina goldstein #fbawtft #fbsod #newtina #fbcog #fantastic beasts and where to find them #secrets of dumbledore #fantastic beasts secrets of dumbledore #fantastic beasts and where tina be #macusa

[brisemolaire]

Another thought/HC on American Wizarding Community and the Goldstein Sisters :

After their parents died, with no close relatives to adopt them, I believe they were taken into a magical orphanage, possibly very close or in Ilvermorny.

The sisters going to a No-maj orphanage is of course impossible due to strict the laws of MACUSA's.

I also believe that there are very few magical orphanage, if not only one.

Why ? Because there is a very small wizarding population in comparison of non magic folk.

JK Rowling has stated that there are “about 3000 (to 5000)” witches/wizards in the UK and there are around 58 million people in the UK in the early 90's. It means magic has a prevalence of 86 in 1 million at best.

Given the fact that the US population in early 20th century is roughly 100 millions, that gives us only 8600 wizards in America !

+ the fact that adults have a longer span of life

+ marrying no-majs is forbidden (and A.Weasley said that wizards would have gone extint if they were not mixing with muggles !)

+ the chances to be an orphan with no family to take care of you... how many children are left ? 10 or 20 at most !

What would you do with 20 orphans with magical power in a country with very strict laws that cannot tolerate random magical outburst ?Where would be the safest place for them ? That's why I think that an orphanage attached to Ilvermorny is the best place ! The school is right there, where the practice of magic is protected.

And I also believe that muggle born wizards would be separated early from their 100% no maj family and taken there too.

The Goldstein Sisters were almost all their life in Ilvermorny. Tina while in school, could easily visit her youngest sister Queenie in the next door orphanage.

Hope you enjoyed my little HC explanation :) Feel free to ad your opinion.

(and sorry for my English, hope everything is clear)

Links to Wizarding World Population Theory:

#fantastic beasts #tina goldstein #queenie goldstein #wizard #harry potter #macusa #ilvermorny

[official-ilvermorny]

So how do school transfers go? Not all schools have the same curriculum so do they decide their classes before the switch? Do they get assigned a new House with the first years or privately?

School transfers are generally very rare, but they do happen! Essentially, schools are preparing students for the LAMP and SALEM tests — standardized tests that allow the Department of Magical Education to ensure that basic magical knowledge is known across the country. These tests are only given for some of the "core" subjects — Charms and Magical Theory, Transfiguration, Potions, Astronomy, Herbology, Defense Against the Dark Arts, and History.

(I may not agree with it, but that's how it works. Just be glad the tests are given for each individual subject, so that at least those who score low in Transfiguration can still get an "Exemplary" in Charms.)

There's an interscholastic board that meets with members of the DME to discuss the best curriculums to make sure students can be successful in the standardized tests. Ultimately, it's up to the school and the individual teachers to determine what is best.

So with that explanation, basically, all "core" classes will be generally the same across all schools, but other electives probably won't be. You may just have to hope that whatever school you transfer to has the class you want.

However, all of the officially-recognized schools are boarding schools, so you would rarely need to transfer anyway, especially after your second or third year.

When that does happen, though, the transfer student will be Sorted with the first-year students.

#ilvermorny #owl post #ilvermorny classes #macusa #classes offered #other schools #american schools of sorcery #schools of magic #seven schools of sorcery #american schools

[theuniversesvoicebox]

PLOT BUNNY DIALOGUE for a future chapter... because Chapter 6 is eluding me...

Should I expand on these? Let me Know!

My stories always start as DIALOGUE. Then after countless hours of wrestling with words, I finally start trickling in the finer details.

Future convo Hermione(H) & Magento(M)

Voldemort took over Great Britain, and Hermione is not going to standby and wait for the war to end. She is determined to get to London and help Harry win the war. Hermione attempts to escape Magneto's lair when he confronts her. M:Where do you think you are going? H: London. You can either come with me, or get out of my way. M:You aren’t going anywhere– H: If I don’t go, Harry will be killed by He Who Must Not be Named. M:He who what now? H:The Dark Lord, he’s taken over the British Ministry of Magic and the ICW is pulling all their efforts to conceal the war from the no-majs outside of Great Britain. They won’t be able to do anything to help us until the war is over. M:There’s a magical war going on right now? H: Yes…if the Dark Lord wins, all my plans to protect mutants will be derailed. M: Is this why you were trying to leave, without even a goodbye? H:I… M:Lil miss, I’m not going to allow you to go to London all by yourself. I want your plans to come into fruition. Let me help you. H:May we go to Xavier’s to pick up the rest of my things, before we head to London? M:Are you going to be recruiting the X-men into this battle? H:No– M:Will they not benefit from your plans to help mutants? H:Of course they do.. M:Then recruit them, orr allow me to do it for you.

Future Convo Charles Xavier(X) & Magneto(M)

Magneto brings Hermione back to X-Mansion to collect her things. Xavier watches Hermione enter the mansion unscathed and confronts Magneto as he enters behind her, placing himself in his chair between Magneto and the stairs. Successfully preventing Magneto from following Hermione.

X:It was kind of you to return her, Erik. M:I only returned her to get her things. We are heading to London. X:Why London? M:A magical war broke out in Great Britain. X:I brought her to New York to protect her from that, Erik. You can’t just take her back into the fray. M:She would go with or without me. I’d rather it be with me. X:You’ve allowed her to get under your skin. M:I’ve allowed her to do so much more than that, Charles.

X:I see, so you are planning to fight against this madman? M:I plan to destroy him. If his little war hadn’t mucked up her plans. We would all be singing kumbaya around a campfire celebrating our new found citizenship in the magical world. X:She really has changed you. M:Changed? I haven’t changed, Charles. I simply approve of her methods. Her plans far outcry my own, and they resolve the issues with inferior beings by placing ourselves off their radar permanently. Why don’t you get the band back together? Your team could join us. All Mutant kind benefit from what she has to offer.

#fanfiction #X-men #Harry Potter #Crossover #dialogue #Hermione x Magneto #Rare Pair #Writing #ao3 writer #Fanfic Writer #Erik Lehnserr #Hermione Granger #Charles Xavier #plot bunny #Wizarding War #Mutant Registration Act #ICW #MACUSA #Voldemort #Ao3 #FF.net #Should these scenes exist? #X-men Fanfiction #Harry Potter Fanficiton #X-men x Harry Potter Fanfiction #Wanna be my Beta Reader? #magneto

[dragoneyes618]

Aberforth holds a grudge against Ilvermorny School of Witchcraft and Wizardry, and against the entire Magical Congress of the United States, because Ilvermorny never detected Credence, and because of how badly MACUSA handled Credence’s case.

#fantastic beasts and where to find them #credence barebone #aurelius dumbledore #macusa #aberforth dumbledore #ilvermony school of witchcraft and wizardry #fantastic beasts headcanons

[afrenchaugurey]

Finally. Finally. FINALLY

English translation of Caribbean Blue Chapter 2 is online. It has been a hell and I'm even NOT satisfied about it but... it's done.

Did I defeat the edit and translation block ? Unfortunately, not. But I'm working on it.

In this one, Tina is having a boring day at MACUSA, until it's not.

#fantastic beasts #fantastic beasts fanfic #tina goldstein #newtina #macusa #caribbean blue #still 100 pages to edit #then to translate #but I will survive #and then I'll be able to post my others works

[worshipcircle01]

NEW FIC: How to survive a magical courtship (and adopt dozens of fantastic beast in the process)

The wonderful @silverynight allow me to write the POV of Percival Graves from her fic: "How to get along with your boss (and accidentally seduce him in the process)" (here for those of you who haven't read it: https://archiveofourown.org/works/11423601/chapters/25594209). So the credit is totally hers as my thanks for this opportunity.

What more can I say?

Enjoy ;)

#percival graves #newt scamander #percival graves x newt scamander #fanfiction #macusa #fantastic beast and where to find them #tina goldstein #queenie goldstein #jacob kowalski #seraphina picquery

[ascandalincamelot]

Dear New York City, I love you for this

#harry potter #grindeldore #albus dumbledore #gellert grindelwald #the elder wand #new york #new york city #nyc #harry potter nyc #wizarding world #fantastic beasts #MACUSA

[ladydenkiart]

#percival graves #fantastic beats and where to find them #macusa #minister of magic #auror #Fanart #colin farrell #Magic

[standardblogofspells]

The Quick-Slick Charm

Sliquious

(slick-WEE-us)

Invented by Duchamp Rineback, an American Wizard famous for creating a vast collection of utility spells, in 1764 book “Enchantments for Efficiency: Vol. I”. When adequately cast, this charm will make the surface of any object extremely slippery, signifiable by the iridescent sheen the target will take on once enchanted, and making it nearly impossible to maintain a grip on the enchanted target. It’s intended use by Rineback was charming rooftops during the winter months, preventing any snow from sticking to the them.

Though as with most utility spells, as time went on it’s application became much broader. By 1787, the Slick Quick Charm found itself as a mainstay spell in No-Man’s-Land Broom Races. In these Illegal Broom Races participants were allowed to use any magical means in order to finish first, casting a Slick Quick Charm on an opponents broom naturally became a popular tactic. The spell has also become a favorite amongst pranksters. By the beginning of the 1800’s there had been 44 records of students at Ilvermorny casting the charm on corridor floors and stairways.

One of the most notable uses of the charm was in New York City, 1981. The criminal organization known as Wakizoto used this charm to slick many primary streets in New York, resulting in several fatal accidents amongst the Muggle population. This was used to capture the attention of the New York Auror Department, snowballing into an overnight battle on the rooftops of New York. The Wakizotos planned ahead however, enchanting the rooftops they used as vantage points, making it impossible for Aurors to land near them. This battle ended by sunrise, the NYAD casted several concealment spells to hide the fight from non-magical eyes. Eventually, MACUSA President at the time, Whinton Fiddlewhip, appeared and partook in a violent duel with then Wakizoto leader, Ichirou Wakizoto. The battle would end with Fiddlewhip using a transfiguration spell to make the enemy rooftops eject large spikes, causing the retreat of many Wakizotos, and the capture of Ichirou Wakizoto. If you wish to read more of this battle, you can find a full recounting of the incident in “Sorcerer of the States Vol. 3: MACUSA Presidents of the 1900’s” by Viveca Hollowick.

#headcanon #spells #charms #charm #ilvermorny #united states #north america #MACUSA #fantastic beasts #harry potter spells #harry potter #harry potter headcanon #The quick slick charm #quick slick charm #slick charm

[ananightingalecosplay]

Magic blooms only in rare souls"

fem!Pecival Graves by me (impersonated by Gellert Grindewald)

Photo by Yana Gallis

My instagram: ana_nightingale_

#harry potter #harry potter fanart #harry potter universe #fantastic beasts #movie cosplay #percival graves #gellert grindelwald #macusa #harry potter hogwarts mystery #hogwarts aesthetic #fantastic beasts fanart #fantastic beasts cosplay #crimes of grindelwald #fantastic beats and where to find them #wizarding world

[doctorstrangeaskblog]

Ever heard of the SCP Foundation? They're kinda like men in black meets warehouse 13. I don't think they'd classify you as an scp but they'd keep a close eye out

No, but even the MACUSA from the Wizard World already came after me and I gave them an epic beating.

#doctor strange #marvel #stephen strange #mcu #dr.strange #benedict cumberbatch #thor ragnarok #if you search those rps are in this blog #macusa #harry potter #WHERE IS MY HARRY POTTER DR STRANGE CROSSOVER

[brisemolaire]

I always wondered how are Tina and Queenie half-blood if it’s illegal to marry a no-maj ?

More plausible explanation :

Their parents married before coming to America, making Tina and Queenie first generation Americans.

Crazy explanation :

Queenie and Tina’s parents could’ve married illegally. They were living hidden in no-maj areas. They ended up catching dragon pox but were not able to seek for a treatment due to their illegal status. That's why they died young.(Dragon pox has a cure since the 16th century and is mostly deadly to elderly witches)

That's also why Tina is soooo against Queenie marrying Jacob. It's not only illegal, it means you have to live hidden and this can lead to dangerous situation. She wants nothing more than a peaceful life for her sister.

#fantastic beasts #tina goldstein #queenie goldstein #dragon pox #Ilvermorny #half-blood #macusa

[official-ilvermorny]

Did you graduate from Ilvermorny already, Selwyn? If so, what wizarding job do you have, or are planning to get?

I did, in 2018.

The second part is something of a complicated question — I don't have a traditional job at the moment. First, I've got some threads to pull to see where they lead. Lots of crazy stuff. I'll write it all down sometime soon, I hope. But I do keep myself quite busy with various... adventures.

After that, who knows! Maybe a freelance Curse Breaker, an Auror perhaps.

My little brother is in the MACUSA Bureau of Magical Research and Development, if you're curious about jobs!

#ilvermorny #MACUSA #Auror #curse breaker #thunderbird #horned serpent #wampus #pukwudgie #ilvermorny houses #owl post

[theuniversesvoicebox]

Magneto: Power of Magnitism

So Nightmare brought X-men 25 comic to my attention. I guess Magneto’s threat to Logan in my fanfiction could turn out to be a promise! Mwahahah!

Excerpt from Chapter 3:

“Over. My. Dead. Body. Ass. Hole.” Logan’s voice over his com.

“That could easily be arranged,” Magneto closed his eyes briefly, feeling the metal around him to see if he could sense Logan's whereabouts. “It’s quite pointless for you to try and come stop me, Wolverine. You know I have the ability to tear that beautiful adamantium from your body, do you think that would kill you?”

Please don’t, Hermione pleaded, as she was unable to do much else.

Magneto smirked as he looked into Hermione’s eyes as Logan’s body floated into the alleyway, his claws dug deep into his own shoulders, and his mouth was sealed shut with a scrap piece of metal. “You could never pose a threat to me, could you, Wolverine? Yet you always make this futile effort to try to antagonize me, why?”

#fanfiction #crossover #X-men X Harry Potter #X-men #harry potter #hermione granger #Hermione X magneto #erik lehnsherr #logan howlett #wolverine #adamantium #magnetism #mutant registration act #MACUSA #statute of secrecy #wizarding world #marvel #ao3 writer #ao3 fanfic #ao3 author #ao3 #fanfiction.net #ff.net