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#marvel is homophobic
grechkathekasha · 9 months
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my favorite part of secret invasion is when in 1ep maria revealed that she has a gf and in 2ep it was their wedding!! y’all also loved this, right? it was so nice of marvel to do this finally!!
(dedicating this to @blackhillverse )
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ask-spiderpool · 4 months
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mndvx · 19 hours
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X-MEN ‘97 — Fire Made Flesh (S01E03)
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shitpostingperidot · 4 months
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The Marvels + Wearing Flannel
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Carol
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Kamala
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Monica
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lokiiied · 5 months
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thinking about loki’s 400 year long stare at mobius when he says, “it’s about who”
and then how he looks at sylvie and says, “i can rewrite the story” and how she has her own story - without romance. how she told him to “write his own story” and how he’s now canonically god of stories/storytelling.
thinking about how if they make lokius canon, marvel’s first major canonically queer character will have “rewritten” the cishet centred narrative that a major audience is expecting and just how powerful that would be.
because, as much as i like the bisexual “confirmation” scene - it was very easy to look over if you’re a homophobic viewer or don’t know what bisexuality is. because they never had either of them say the words, “i am bisexual”. that and how they “dealt” with loki’s genderfluidity.
but a major gay couple?? with the healthiest and most intimate relationship i’ve EVER seen marvel write?? that would not be so easy to ignore. especially when you go back and see that it’s been there the whole time. if you knew what to look for. which, is honestly probably the queer vision in a nutshell. because cishets will be blind to anything if they see a man + woman option. they need “undeniable” proof. marvel knows that & it’s why they’ve gotten away with this. why they’re still “safe” for most of their anti-queer audience.
but just imagine, if loki fixes all this, get his friends back, and shows mobius know how he really feels and basically says “this has been the love story the whole time” THAT will be his legacy. in all the glorious i’m a god and i’ve been bad and i’m good and i’m queer and i have inherent worth just like everybody else and i don’t give a fuck loki fashion. and i hope to gods we get to see that.
that’s the story i want to see.
because if they turn around and give us sylki — (and in doing so say here’s a perfect example of a healthy gay relationship but instead we’re gonna give you a toxic genderbent selfcest romance) regardless of the fact we know they are both queer — that is not what a homophobic audience is going to see. they’re going to be satisfied that they didn’t see two men kissing on their screen and call it another win. and marvel would be continuing to encourage the idea that us queer fans are delusional - despite the clearly intentional writing.
not to mention the exhausting, intrinsically homophobic harassment & clowning lokius shippers have endured would actually not be for nothing if lokius were canon and marvel were to decide btw queer people are real and so are their stories and so is their love.
if the show about the genderfluid bisexual god of stories can’t accomplish that after all this character development then. idk.
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infinityinakiss · 5 months
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DID LOKI JUST FIX HIS HAIR AND HIS COAT BEFORE SEEING MOBIUS? THIS ISN'T REAL
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colorfulsmayles24 · 6 months
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so were just going to ignore the beautifully fleshed out relationship between two men who talk about the meaning of their existence and comfort each other for the heterosexual relationship that is icky for various reasons and is absolutely one-sided?
Yeah?
Okay, cool.
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prncssguya · 9 months
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marvel and gravik count your days
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judiciousjackdaw · 5 months
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still thinking about the scene at the start of the marvels where Kamala is doodling about carol and my friend who hasn't watched any ms marvel or captain marvel, loudly said "oh yeah this isnt gay AT ALL"
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Leonardo and Michelangelo should have torn each other limb from limb in the comic
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evilwickedme · 2 years
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Hi there I would like to say I’m interested in the deadpool homophobia rant
hi there! many thanks to you
so the "deadpool homophobia rant" is... a little complicated. I'll try to keep it short because God knows I talk about Wade too much as it is on this hellsite. the point, before we go into literally any detail, is that the writing surrounding deadpool's sexuality is deeply problematic, both in its representation and its consequences in-narrative to him as a person, but I'll try to just focus on the facts.
we all know that deadpool is omni/pan, right? wrong. well, not wrong. just not... quite as solidly canon as we'd like. this is the only reference the actual word gets in canon:
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this is from the posehn & duggan 2012 run (my beloved), although don't ask me to hunt down the specific issue, please, that sounds like a nightmare. suffice it to say that it's from the letter section at the end of one of the issues and that it's the only time I can find the actual word referenced anywhere with regards to our boy. you may remember that it was confirmed at some point - yeah, in a since deleted tweet. despite being attracted to anything from aliens to death herself, wade is not allowed to go past plausible deniability when it comes to heterosexuality.
that doesn't mean that wade doesn't express attraction to men, because he does, and often.
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(from deadpool team up #887)
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(from an early issue of spider-man/deadpool. 2, I think. maybe 3)
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(from the daniel way 2008 run, again, don't make me dig up an issue please, but it's the one where he teams up with spider-man to defeat hit-monkey)
(there's also a few panels floating around online where he expresses attraction to cable but I don't have those saved on my laptop. I remember seeing one where wade fantasizes about rubbing sun screen on cable's back? but again, do not have those saved.)
anyway, the point is, wade absolutely gets to express attraction to men, and constantly. but only at his own expense. only when the joke will land. only when he gets to immediately say "no homo". only because he's already quirky and weird and insane, so of course he's also attracted to men, he's not all there, after all.
I'll try not to let this cross over to a connected but wholly separate rant about the ableism in his writing, but it's all connected, at the end of the day.
and it would be one thing if deadpool wasn't a relationship guy. but, although he's absolutely terrible at it, deadpool makes stab after stab at monogamy - always with women. he's a sleezeball, really. constantly asking women out, super and non-super, whether they're in any way interested or not. posehn & duggan pull back from this a little, and instead have him get married to shiklah, in a special issue dedicated to "every time deadpool has gotten married" (or at least thought he did). they got a bunch of previous deadpool writers and artists to contribue to the issue. somehow every single marriage was to a woman, even if she was literally an alien. bc deadpool's attraction to a woman is a tragedy, but at least it's a story; wade's attraction to a man is a joke. his one "relationship" with a man is with madcap, who abuses him from inside his head. they call it "falling in love":
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(from deadpool annual #1, from uh... 2013? 2014?)
... but madcap's nothing but horrifically abusive towards wade when they're "together" (as in fused together with madcap playing the role of "white box") and the first arc in the 2015 duggan run is madcap deliberately fucking up deadpool's life because he won't take him back. not exactly a positive canon relationship. shiklah treats wade better.
deadpool also likes to dress in a typical feminine or gay coded fashion, and it's constantly questioned or made fun of by the people around him:
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(from the deadpool musical issue)
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(I actually had to google this one, I don't know where it's from for sure but it's pre-2012 (cause... boxes) and I'm pretty sure it's from cable & deadpool. no idea beyond that what issue or anything)
we see a constant, then, of deadpool expressing attraction to men and his gnc presentation, and yet the narrative never respects him for it. it plays it for laughs, plays the plausible deniability card, and despite wade himself seemingly being comfortable with his sexuality it is never presented as a good thing or even a neutral thing. deadpool's sexuality shines through despite what seems to be the writers actively fighting against it. and it doesn't have to be this way. nobody made them write him as pan in the first place, although, yes, I'd be sad if he wasn't, and more importantly, nobody made anyone write his pansexuality like this. it's in the movies too, to a lesser extent. it's frustrating and exhausting and it's deeply homophobic.
I love wade. he deserves better.
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Whumptober 2023 - Day 7
"Alleyway"
Clint’s mouth was painfully dry. He looked over his shoulder, but they were still there. Since he left the club twenty minutes ago he was followed by some strangers. So far he could keep them away but in this part of the city there weren’t many people on the streets anymore. Not at this time at least. 
He looked over his shoulder again. There they were. Dammit. He licked his lips and started to job away. But the guys following him started to move faster as well. 
“Fuck,” Clint cursed. He should’ve taken the subway but he was too far away from a station at the moment. But there… he moved faster, started to run. 
The guys started to run, too. 
He sped up.
They sped up. 
There was a corner and Clint ran around it. It was a mistake. The small alleyway ended at a wall with no chance to get over it. He whirled around. Maybe he could get back and…
“Hey, faggot!” one of the guys snarled. Of course they were there already. They blocked the entrance of the alleyway. 
“Leave me alone!” Clint snapped but the guys just laughed. 
“Leave me alone,” one of the sing-songed mockingly. 
“I didn’t do anything to you,” Clint said and went back to the end of the alleyway. 
“You exist,” one of the guys, the biggest one, hissed. “That’s reason enough!” 
“I…” Clint managed but then the guys ran up to him and Clint just ducked, put his arms over his head and tried to block out the pain…
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“Hey,” a voice said. It sounded far away and Clint groaned. “Hey, can you hear me?” 
He tried to turn around but everything hurt. 
“Don’t move,” the man said. “I’ve called an ambulance already.” 
“No,” Clint moaned. “No ambulance…” 
“They hit you pretty bad,” the man said and stepped to the side. And now Clint could see him. He was older and had a kind smile. 
“No, I cannot…” 
“Consider it covered, Mr. Barton” the man said and hunkered down beside him. For a moment Clint wondered how he knew his name. “My name is Phil Coulson and I’m with SHIELD.” 
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nellasbookplanet · 8 months
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I'm so sorry but I'm going to talk about supernatural in the year of our lord 2023, because I just finished good omens season 2 and the way these shows occupy a very similar space in fandom attitudes is driving me insane.
In so many ways, good omens feels like what supernatural could have been, had they actually committed and not flailed around with like 15 seasons of queerbaiting and the most unintentionally funny ending imaginable. You have the demons and the angels, armageddon, team free will vs god's master plan, years of pining and repression and no personal space and small declarations of love. But good omens does it with genuine vulnerability and comittment, not as bait or comic relief or last minute bury you gays. But, because it’s big and well-known and allows itself time and nuance to get where it’s going, so many people really treated it horribly before the drop of season 2 for not immediatelyand explicitly giving them what they wanted.
Like, after the end of season 1 you could really feel the way spn damaged viewers treated them as the same thing. It’s like people were so prepared to be tricked that they came in highly on guard and defensive. Thing is, this manifested as taking anything other than the most bland, on the nose and immediate gay rep as the creators queerbaiting and trying to worm their way out of committing to 'real' queer rep. Gaiman refuses to confirm your 'they are gay men' headcanons? Clearly him being a coward and not the characters, explicitly, being neither gay nor men. Characters have a very close relationship but no kiss? Clearly queerbaiting and not an affirmation of ace/aro relationships, queerplatonic relationships, or even plain old platonic relationships.
There is so much hurt from years of stereotypes and queerbaiting and bury your gays that any attempt to tell a complex queer story - one where relationships take time, or where they don’t always happen, or where horror or tragedy strikes, become nigh on impossible. It becomes hard to distinguish subtext used to be genuine and subtle and queer-friendly from subtext used to queerbait and make fun, and rather than making the effort to tell them apart and giving stories a chance (and taking the risk of getting hurt) all rep must be distilled into the epitome of 'gay' before it’s accepted as good, because that way you cannot be tricked. Hell, just the way it’s referred to as 'rep' rather than 'characters' is telling.
This is noticeable in the way spn fan spaces talk about Cas, too; he’s always 'the gay angel', never the bisexual angel (despite having had female love interests) or the asexual angel (despite being largely uninterested in sex) or the nonbinary angel (despite not being human and on occassion using female vessels as well as male). Does Meg Masters mean nothing to you. Just. Please allow stories their nuance and their time and their right to not always cater to your ship in the exact way you want (or at all) without declaring them bait. It makes you look very silly when you come crawling back the moment a kiss happens.
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monster-cock69 · 11 months
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Omega Tony’s faking a pregnancy to cover up for the fact that underaged Peter is actually pregnant so he can raise the baby for him
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lokiiied · 6 months
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number one reason i need lokius canon:
• THEY’RE IN LOVE
number two reason i need lokius canon:
• piss off the straights
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annabelle--cane · 2 years
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be more chill is a good musical, you guys are just mean
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