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fantomette22 · 3 months

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Little comic about the discovery of the augurs 🐌

After a long day in the depths of the pthumerians’ tombs, the guardians of Byrgenwerth were finally heading back to the surface.

On the way back something caught their eyes and made them stop. In a small corner covered in mold and inbetween old candles, they saw what look liked crystalline pearls against the wall. More disturbing was in front of it, the mummified remains a a huge invertebrate.

They got closer. The gatekeeper and the groundskeeper exchange looks while the graveguard went to take the dead gastropod.

They couldn't believe it! Phantasm! The signs of the great ones! They finally found them!

Liam : We absolutely need to bring them back to Master Willem! He will be ecstatic!

Gehrman : I know! But we need to be sure there's no risk to bring them to the surface like this. It could be disastrous!

Dores : Maybe we can just take the mummified slug for now. Leave the rest here and go tell Master Willem. Then we'll go back to got them.

Liam : But... we can't just leave them here like this! If something were to happened while we're gone... the provost we'll never forgive us...

Gehrman : Hm... oh I might have an idea!

They took delicately the slimy eggs and put them in a urn. There it should be safe for now. No Dores don't lick them just to see! They left a lantern not too far from it and head back.

At their returned, they show the Provost the remains of what could indeed be an augur from what he told them. They explain they might have found eggs as well. The Provost couldn't believe it. He rush them to show him. They needed to get them back into their care!

After retrieving them the scholars tried to take care of them as much as possible. They could only pray for the day they would hatch, wishing live still remains in those little pearls.

After no prior signs of life, one egg finally move. The provost panicked took it in his hand and witness a miracle.

After all this time, they finally encounter a phantasm. An augur was born.

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I know in lore it probably didn’t got that way. It seems to be the Healing Church who found them while looking for Isz 🤔 but well i had this idea in my head since a while and i’m happy to have finally done it!

Willem : Crying of joy

Laurence : Yes that's really an augur.

Rom : *fangirling and is very excited soon she will have dozens to take care off!*

Micolash : wow very cool!

Caryll : Omg are they speaking to me?!

Everyone else : ok cool slugs I guess

#bloodborne #bloodborne comic #fantomette22art #my art #augur of ebrietas #graveguard dores #gatekeeper #gehrman the first hunter #master willem #provost willem #micolash host of the nightmare #rom the vacuous spider #laurence the first vicar #phantasm

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anchorichor · 1 year

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#bloodborne #rom the vacuous spider #micolash host of the nightmare #provost willem #master willem #runesmith caryll #ludwig the accursed #laurence the first vicar #borne silly #the scholars

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pumpkaaboo · 8 months

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fuck it. massive pile of byrgenwerth headcanons

Willem was a decorated and well-established scholar from a wealthy family. When he decided to depart his previous university and establish a new one near some recently-rediscovered historical sites, no one really thought twice, but very few followed him. Not many wanted to brave the bitter winters of the mountainlands (and, though no one would admit it, the rumors of a blood-drinking aristocracy and immortal monarch certainly played a part in many a scholar's decision). That was alright, to him. His ideas attracted company.

Laurence was one of Willem's students, and decided to put his doctorate on hold in order to follow his favorite professor to the newly-established university. He admired Willem's boldness and willingness to break new ground, to challenge assumptions about what was impossible. Over time, he grew disillusioned as Willem began urging caution towards the findings from the labyrinths, eventually leading to the Byrgenwerth schism. By the time he would have realized his mistake, he was too far gone to understand what was happening to him.

Gehrman was initially a simple mercenary hired to escort scholars through the tombs. However, the bond he fostered with Laurence drove him to catch up with the rest of the students and participate directly in their research. Eventually, he became something of a gold standard for tomb prospectors, and only those willing to follow in his footsteps were permitted access to the deeper layers of the labyrinths. He left with Laurence, not because he agreed with the newly-crowned Vicar's ideas, but because Laurence was the only person he had ever really been honing himself into a weapon for.

Rom was an orphaned scholar from south of the mountainlands who drew attention by being one of the only noncombatant scholars to accompany the prospectors to the deeper layers of the tombs, and she was the one who first Made Contact with lonely Ebrietas. And the left-behind Daughter of the Cosmos adored her. At first regarded as a charming little sister figure by most of the other scholars, resentment towards her began to grow once the realization that she was outpacing her peers became apparent. Rom was aware that she suddenly no longer felt welcome among her classmates, and began spending more and more time with her surrogate mother. The closer she grew to the stars, the more distanced she grew from her peers, the less able and willing to share her findings with them she became. Until one day, she was no longer human at all. The knowledge of how to contact Ebrietas died with her, not to be rediscovered until the Choir found the Isz chalice.

Maria, though technically a relative of the Queen Undying, was so distant as to be for all intents and purposes a member of the servant class. She took up the role of common knight just as her mother, and her mother's mother, and her mother's mother's mother had before her. What was not common was the circumstances behind her knighting; on her own, she slew the great, winged, many-clawed thing that had been her own mother using nothing but the blinding glint off a hand mirror and a sharp-toothed metal comb. Such a prestigious feat was almost enough to overcome the dishonor of a family member losing themself to the sanguine plague, and she received her title when she was barely old enough to lift a sword. In fact, Annalise herself was considering and subtly training Maria for the role of her own personal knight, though Maria left before she could make any such announcement. In Byrgenwerth, she saw the potential for growth instead of stagnation; for the creation of a new future instead of endless nostalgia for an increasingly clouded past. Not trusting the ideals she was taught by an aristocracy that made blood magic into an art, told her that her grief over her mother should instead be shame, and maintained feudal rule for centuries, she essentially outsourced her morality to her fellow scholar-prospectors. This would turn out to be a mistake, though she wouldn't allow herself to realize that until years after the fact. The hamlet, as it was happening, was merely the first crack in the facade to her. But before that, she was Gehrman's apprentice, and brought with her the techniques and traditions of Cainhurst's knights. She was responsible for Yharnam's hunters becoming descendants in spirit of the knights, though few bothered to learn enough about Cainhurst to draw the parallel. Gehrman ended up learning almost as much from her as she did from him.

(Cainhurst's cultural views on gender and sexuality are very different from those of most of the rest of the world, as implied by the knight's sets, Maria's hunter gear being clearly based on the masculine version of the knight's set, and Annalise's whole... everything. Maria probably had to be taught what the cisheteropatriarchy is and how she'd be expected to act by Rom. Her response was likely something along the lines of "That's so stupid and just makes everyone's lives worse, why do people agree to participate in it???" Rom did not have an answer for her.)

Logarius was a descendant of the knights who fought against the faction that would eventually become Cainhurst in the great Pthumerian civil war. Over time, a political conflict had been mythologized into a legendary battle between purity and corruption, not helped by Cainhurst's general isolationism. He initially joined the tomb prospectors in the hopes of learning more about the glorious history of his ancestors, and was quickly accepted into the ranks of the scholar-prospectors alongside Gehrman. Naturally, he was none too pleased when Maria showed up and almost immediately earned her place as Gehrman's star pupil. Maria, who had never been very good at reading the emotions of others, was unaware of his resentment towards her until the founding of the Executioners in their modern form. Ludwig, who arrived in Yharnam once the Church was already in full swing, was a descendant of these same knights, but despite Logarius's efforts to recruit him, he was far more willing to let the past stay in the past and focus on the issues of the present.

Micolash was a relative newcomer. He was the archetypal "former child prodigy gets to college and is surrounded by equals or superiors for the first time in their life and immediately has an identity crisis". The fact that said superiors included women was salt in the wound. (Compared to the rest of its contemporary universities, Byrgenwerth was fairly egalitarian in its admissions, but this was still a time period where women were seen as property. That mindset is difficult to shake, and most didn't see any reason to try.) He was determined to find a breakthrough that would outshine everyone else, and surrounded himself with people who never criticized him. Laurence was actually a bit reluctant to let him come along to the nascent Church, and definitely regretted his decision on more than one occasion. Especially after the School of Mensis for all intents and purposes severed itself from the rest of the Church.

(In a modern AU, Micolash would be selling cryptocurrency and Great One NFTs)

Caryll was a bit of an enigma. They never drew close to anyone, throwing themself headfirst into their work and only contacting anyone else to share their notes and results. No one was ever able to figure out whether they were a man or a woman. Maria was the only person unphased by this. Sadly, Caryll's transcription of runes only began to show truly impressive results once Master Willem's mind had already begun to fail, so he was never able to both see what his student had produced and understand what he was looking at. Caryll eventually died of dehydration after multiple feverish days spent working on a single rune, forgetting to tend to their physical needs. Ironically, the rune carved into the desk where their classmates found their body was Lake.

Yurie the Last Scholar was named as such because she was the last person to ever visit Byrgenwerth for the knowledge contained within before Yharnam, and everything around it, fell into ruin, not to be unearthed for centuries. Her mission was twofold: first, she was to comb through the texts of the university for anything new to the Choir. Second, and perhaps more importantly, she was to destroy any record that could be used to harm the church; most notably, this included attendance records which might be cross-referenced to determine which students had left alongside Laurence. She completed the second mission, but not the first. She lost herself in eldritch knowledge, and eventually forgot why she came to Byrgenwerth in the first place, so immersed was she in the thrill of discovery, of ever-expanding insight. Not that there would have been anything for her to return to. Perhaps what happened to her could be considered a mercy. She never had to know.

#bloodborne #byrgenwerth #master willem #laurence the first vicar #gehrman the first hunter #rom the vacuous spider #lady maria of the astral clocktower #martyr logarius #micolash host of the nightmare #runesmith caryll #yurie the last scholar #cloudtalk #and yes in my headcanon the comb maria used to kill her mother is the same one you can find in the old workshop.#anyway these are just my silly little headcanons. very subject to change and i love hearing what other people think

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nishihii · 2 years

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bloodborne vines number 2 babey!!!!

most of these are ideas from @lord-marble

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fareehaandspaniards · 4 months

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:/ :/ :/ The fact that the way to Upper Cathedral is decorated with the statues of Eldrich creatures that are holding HARPOONS (you know like, weapons specifically designed to hunt marine creatures) :/ Laurence you ASS :/

That was the first thing I thought of xd

#my art #funny #laurence the first vicar #master willem #I needed screenshot for the last one a[prkdlkerjeask #I was searching for it in haste D:#ultra jpeg shakaly ebuchie #mutuals

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kirkhammr · 1 year

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Master Willem!!!!!!!! HE FEELIN' HIMSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

( based off this bagahv )

#this is my favorite image set on this planet JHHHH #willem its ok.... their eyes are yet to open😭....u look so sick bro theyre all just JEALOUS!! OF UR ELDRICH SWAG!!!!#bloodborne #master willem #my art

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gemteeth · 9 months

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Bloodborne Thoughts 1

Okay, so- Don’t mind me, I really just need to write this down.

As I’m sure we all know, the Bloodborne timeline doesn’t make much sense at all. But, there are a few small things that I ponder on. Just gonna dump my thoughts here.

Thinking back on the Executioner outfit-

This garb is the base for all the Church outfits. Meaning that Logarius was around with Laurence in the founding of the Healing Church. With knowing FromSoft as well, that sometimes people are just big. Looking on the Dark Souls series, there are just super tall people that are normal in the world. Thinking on that, then Logarius being the height he is shouldn’t be that strange even in Yharnam. To that I add, the Pthumerians probably are also probably a norm for Yharnam as well. The Cathedral Giants, and other Pthumerian enemies just seem like they belong there at the Cathedral City. Or, with the expeditions set out by Master Willem, the Pthumerians rose up to Yharnam once the human inhabitants population was low enough.

The massive Huntsman’s Minions are interesting but, stated that they are also changed by the plague just as the other inhabitants. Just the title alone is something to make you think on what exactly they did before they were infected. Were they helpers to the citizens turned hunters or where they assistants to Hunters themselves?

Back to the Church!- Logarius and Laurence were now clearly in the same time frame but also, Gehrman must also be as well, right? As the First Hunter, he must be. It all depends on where you set when the plague started. Through some digging, I gauged that the Beast Plague came to the surface at minimum 50 years prior to the game setting. The hunt has been a long, long cycle that had grown worse with each outbreak of beast scourge.

When I was getting Gehrman as a boss, I had a realization that (obviously) he wasn’t in the mortal plane any longer. He’s just the same as Micolash. Gehrman is the First Hunter but, by the power of the Moon Presence, he is the Host of the Dream. His psychical body is long dead, just like Micolash.

Gehrman and Laurence were both in Byrgenwerth together, and seemed to be very close. The hunter even knew that Laurence was the source of the whole problem. The Moon Presence’s contract with Laurence and her taking up of Gehrman in her creation of the Hunter’s Dream.

Ludwig is the core of the hunters for the Church, separate from Logarius’ Executioners (clearly) and both are passionate with their teachings.

“Ludwig’s Holy Blade” is an interesting thing to me just on that it’s a whole separate thing from the Holy Moonlight Greatsword and its three forms.

A sword that gives cosmic guidance and wisdom, and a picky sword at that. When fighting a scourge that was brought on by a moon creature, Ludwig had to be in the dark on Laurence’s deal to even fathom using a sword that channels moonlight. This sword chose Ludwig, and only Ludwig because of who he was to the Church.

When Ludwig says-

-once picking up his sword in his phase 2 fight, stuck with me. This sword really messed with Ludwig’s head to the point that he renounced Laurence as a companion and the Church. It truly did hasten his transformation in the long run and get a powerful hunter out of the way. Did Ludwig’s change happen before or after Laurence? If it happened before the Vicar’s own transformation, then perhaps the “betrayal” of Laurence putting down an old friend was the final human thought that went though his mind before dying. But if Laurence’s beasthood came first, then I assume that it may have a change in Ludwig as well. Moreso like, “Clearly his teachings are a fraud if the Vicar himself has succumbed.”

Seeing that Laurence is the first ever Cleric Beast, makes me think the latter when it comes to who changed first between the Vicar and Holy Blade. I figured that Ludwig would count as a Cleric Beast since he, himself, is a Cleric. Laurence also has 3 battle phases, which aside from him losing his legs, his desperation and aggression just increase more and more. Ludwig gains a glint of his former self in his final moments and dies as a warrior but, Laurence dies a screaming and desperate beast.

As stated previously; Laurence, Gehrman and Micolash are all traced back to the college so also knew Master Willem well.

Laurence split from Byergenwerth once discovering the Old Blood and began the Healing Church and blood ministration. If Laurence had heeded his teacher’s warning, would things have been different?

Expect more, I got thoughts.

#bloodborne #gehrman the first hunter #laurence the first vicar #ludwig the holy blade #ludwig the accursed #master willem #micolash host of the nightmare #beep beep richie #okay to interact #okay to reblog

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friendofoyster · 10 months

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Master Willem Kart. He may be old, he may be blind, he may be melting into his chair, his mind may not inhabit this plane of existence, but who says he cant race?

Made in 6/20/21

#bloodborne kart #bloodborne art #bloodborne #master willem #provost willem

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vampirezogar · 1 year

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"Master Willem, I've come to bid you farewell."

"Oh, I know, I know. You think now, to betray me."

"No, but you will never listen. I tell you, Bargainworth sounds like a family owned dollar store, not a school."

"Your eyes have yet to open, Laurence."

"I hate you."

#bloodborne #shitty goofs on a sleep deprived brain #master willem #laurence the first vicar #byrgenwerth #fear the old blood

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karnaca78 · 8 months

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Micolash: What have you done to her? Master Willem: She was entirely willing. Ascension, you see— 'tis our highest pursuit. Rom's note: Dearest Micolash, I am entrusting you with my research. Do not let Uncle Willem have it. I hope to see you again. Yours, R.

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Master Willem: You still think of her as a person after all this time. You need more eyes. Micolash: You have so many eyes, old fool. Yet you cannot see her.

#bloodborne #micolash #micolash host of the nightmare #rom the vacuous spider #master willem #my art #sketchbook #collage art #ink sketch #hehe lots of headcanons in there

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bornetoblood · 1 year

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Awful old men who have been in love for a very long time

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#late night doodles with ratborne #bloodborne #moon divorce #laurence the first vicar #gehrman the first hunter #plain doll #the doll bloodborne #master willem #knows what you are

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katyahina · 2 years

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Healing Church and Byrgenwerth used to be the one! (sort of hidden lore?)

Oh boy, I am really happy I got this ask! Will answer in a legit post if you don't mind. Yeah, this one is a little hard to unravel, but in fact plenty of the hints are here. So, we are bouncing from this bit about Alfred's dialogue:

(I will be using retranslations excerpts from Last Protagonist's document ( x ) as usual)

However it is important to notice that those who delved in the dungeons THE first are Willem, Dores and the gatekeeper! Something you can only learn if you pull an unlikely parkour in the Forbidden Woods and get an obscure item:

So from now on we enter the ‘blink and you'll miss it’ territory! 1 - ‘Eye’, the rune that is indeed a voice of Ebrietas, was also a symbol of the research for the Arcane Truth (eyes on the inside) that Willem pursued. 2 - Meanwhile, Isz Chalice that resulted in Choir finally meeting Ebrietas is a cornerstone of the Choir. 3 - MEANWHILE, Choir happened after Research Hall (in fact, happened on its ‘ruins’) - whereas Research Hall was something that belonged to the Healing Church... *takes deep breath* MEANWHILE, in early days of its existence, Healing Church was pursuing research for the arcane and eyes inside IN the Research Hall!

As for the Choir forming where Reseach Hall once was, it is also obvious enough from THE game - Orphanage in ‘reality’ is exactly where Lumenflowers Garden in Hunter’s Nightmare is, and you can see the entrance from the balcony too - one that had beds in the Nightmare version, but no longer has it in ‘reality’!

Okay, you get the drill! So this is what we can conclude with the most probability:

Willem, Dores and the gatekeeper delved into the dungeons (ones that were not sealed yet, for one reason or another) and discovered signs of the cosmic Kin, Ebrietas most specifically. Caryll was able to decipher the sound from one of them, as they ARE linked to Ebrietas herself, thus Eye rune was discovered and the start for seeking eyes on the inside began! This might or might not been exactly what given the hunch to seek Fishing Hamlet (since they are some ancient Pthumerians leftover secluded civilisation), but in either case they got curious. After Fishing Hamlet, Research Hall happened and the patients started to dive deeper (figurally and literally lol) which resulted to closer connection to the cosmos/stars!

❗ A small interruption; Kos (or some say Kosm) isn’t necessarily FROM the cosmos; her actual Japanese name is Gos ( ゴース , Gōsu) as in like, ‘ghost’. Ebrietas, however, is properly called Daughter of the Stars (Hoshi no Musume), not ‘cosmos’. But ghost in reference to Kos’ actual name most likely refers to the phantasms. My headcanon is that Kos has something to do with the folks that DID initially abandon Ebrietas after she, so to say, gave them everything they needed, so helped them to ascend:

A potential explanation of her humanlike face?

Back to the Healing Church history!!! So, patients try to reach for the stars/cosmos for salvation, ok? (Interesting pair with the fact that pointy hats of Keepers of the Old Lords are said to look upwards as a proof of some sin) For one reason or another, Research Hall as it is known gets re-purposed, and instead they decide to teach orphans! My guess is that children - PARENTLESS children specifically - are the easiest way to summon Great Ones since Great Ones do want to find a (surrogate) child. So they will more likely speak with the kids that seek a parent, right? But Choir already exists as they decide to find Ebrietas already, and they do!

Still existing connection with Willem is also likely because petrified spider Ebrietas weeps at is most likely Rom herself! Byrgenwerth is said to be floating between Nightmare, making Rom guarding the lake her astral body, but her second body is in the dungeons! Queen Yharnam is, likewise a character who appears in the Lake (astral plane, and Nightmare too) as a peaceful person, but is hostile in the dungeons! So I think whatever happened to Rom split her in two, and perhaps similar thing happened with Queen Yharnam! But Byrgenwerth does have like... half of Rom at least... you know?

(Translation from here ( x ))

Winged God, Voice and Terror probably being Wet Nurse, Oedon and Flora respectively! Either way first Ebrietas cares about Rom to cry over her fate (?) later, then Rom is retracted in Byrgenwerth by Willem, but Ebrietas interacts with the Choir, which IS upper echelon of the Healing Church, so by the logic of what most likely happened to Rom, Willem was able to interact with the Choir, and very closely so, not just ‘hey remember that old man that once taught us stuff, lets copy his hat’.

Speaking of the hats!

Here is this guy right? And the whole altar seems to depict the process of the Blood Transfusion like what happens to Paleblood Hunter at the very start - there is a dream about beast, so they already had a hunch as to why Old Blood should be feared! Naturally, this statue could’ve been depicting Laurence rather than Willem, but... Not only that’d be a little off brand as Laurence is clearly more interested in what advantages Old Blood can give (moreso than ‘eyes’ it seems), but here is also a very interesting detail about Laurence’s status:

(Note from this ( x ) article, same I took Ebrietas’ real title from)

So basically, Laurence is unambigiously titled with the status that means ‘a person who REPLACES the person who is an ACTUAL leader of the church while they’re off duty’! So there MUST be an actual pope/bishop! And... honestly, I see no potential figure other than Willem - and Laurence is his vicar. Maybe Willem was also the first pope... but also the last. My personal headcanon is that Laurence’s last display of respect to Willem was to prohibit ever appointing another pope/bishop so now everyone in charge are ‘vicars’.

I will also bring up this bit:

(I talked about nature of Frenzy a bit more detailed in this ( x ) post, but TLDR; Frenzy is tied to the thirst for blood and hunt hence it resulting in one’s blood solidifying in literal spears (weapons), and even scholars aren’t safe from it - notes like ‘Hunt the Great Ones. Hunt the Great Ones.’ and ‘Three Eye Cords’ in Byrgenwerth suggest they got a hunch that they need to kill Great Ones to get their infants’ cords for eyes inside. Pretty much this is why consuming blood helps to calm Frenzy.)

So yes, in my opinion Occam’s Razor suggests that Byrgenwerth started to research for the eyes inside, that was causing Frenzy here and there, and they invented blood-based medicine, which inspired Laurence to become more interested in Blood Ministration than ascension through Arcane! Willem though, knew it was a dangerous path, as Byrgenwerth + early Healing Church established the adage.

Also, in this post about Frenzy I bring up that the prayer Amelia reads is also read by a white hunter in Research Hall (and by a hunter in black garb but only in Japanese), however Research Hall version MISSES ‘seek the old blood’ bit - it is JUST ‘beware of fraility of men’ sentiment, nothing about the power consuming the blood will give you.

So yeah! In the conclusion. Seems like Healing Church became a thing - and blood ministration too, as it proven to be effective against the Frenzy people who perceive too much Arcane enlightenment face, but Willem with his ‘inner eyes’ idea has been around - at least until Ebrietas herself was found and formed the bond with Rom! My theory as to how Laurence split from Willem is the moment where Healing Church deems Byrgenwerth a forbidden place!

So as we know, Alfred is a deluded fanboy of Logarius and Healing Church (not a protege as translators made it sound, he simply follows his teachings), so he believes whatever they say! We remember that Maria affiliatee of the Healing Church and Byrgenwerth herself is a subject to the weird vilebloods’ blood/fire magic (however she doesn’t like it), we also remember this shit:

And we ALSO remember that armours very similar to those from Cainhurst knighst but lower on polygons are in dungeons:

(Makes me think these losers kept trying to reclaim their lost heritage from Pthumeru until Gehrman finally informed them that beasts are too fast for heavy armour and showed these losers how to do trick weapons and proper attire - perhaps Maria was the first, and those who remained in Cainhurst stole her new drip... But I sidetrack.)

Either way, it makes no sense Healing Church is in enmity with Vilebloods, right? It makes me think that nourishing animosity towards Cainhurst was a planned action of Healing Church in order to justify Cainhurst massacre, and under guise of ‘purification’ steal the cord of Great One infant Annalise was pregnant with - the cord that served to conjure Hunter’s Dream! I talk more about this theory in this ( x ) post but tldr; Annalise was a redhead whose hair is now demelanized whereas Arianna’s hair turn from more vivid yellow blonde to white after she gives birth, both are vilebloods, also Annalise now has to hide her face under mask whereas Flora who has open guts and is implied having lost a baby has terribly distorted face, so perhaps GO infant being aborted results in the face horribly distorted by grief! Nevermind this bloody trail leading to under her skirt...

(I also heard that in earlier versions of Bloodborne before patches/DLC, the cord you pick in Abandoned Workshop actually WAS said to be brought by Executioners from Cainhurst and later that description was cut out. So if anyone has a visual proof of this - please, please, PLEASE I am BEGGING you, show it to me!)

So they needed to explain why Cainhurst was bad? And perhaps it went like this:

- Uhhhh hold on but why Cainhurst is bad because of using blood, were not YOU Byrgenwerth guys who discovered the blood to begin with?

- E-eeerr... Someone betrayed us!

So Byrgenwerth became a scapegoat to blame, massacre happened (possibly after Maria’s death, I doubt she’d allow Healing Church to do THAT), and now they needed to deal with the ‘traitors’ to save the effect of ruthless ‘salvation’ of Healing Church - at the cost of Laurence betraying Byrgenwerth, however Willem was also there when the plan of Hunter’s Dream was made.

And we ended up having three factions of the Healing Church - the ‘normie’ Healing Church that specifies on blood ministration (led by Laurence and currently, by Emilia) and two upper echelons of it that still pursue ideas of ascension through eyes on the inside (Choir and School of Mensis).

Yeah, we kinda came from more or less solid evidences to more vague/speculative ones, and to get the idea better I needed to turn to other, connected ideas but that’s the beauty (the pain) of Bloodborne lore - everything is connected! It is basically me gluing shards of a once whole object Miyazaki scattered because he drinks tears of lorediggers but yeah… I kinda throw such points casually because for me all this thing is already a no-brainer and internalised xd

#ask replies #bloodborne #bloodborne theory #laurence the first vicar #provost willem #master willem #healing church #not art #at this rate i should make a document of my theories or a masterpost #for all 4 or my fans i gues ahaha #for me all these things are just so natural and automatic #but when i try to explain this or that it is like... an essay #can i invent 'kats bloodborne theories' Rune so anyone can just learn it instead of reading my longposts? ahaha #there are just so many things in bb to talk about!#like poor annalise losing a baby before it was born apparently...#executioners are the worst #good job for miyazaki showing horrors of crusaders as a concept without actually showing it #i often think micolash was a mastermind behind even LETTING cainhurst know of an unholy pregnancy with a baby amygdala #and then coercing laurence into following his plans #because of course #'blaming the first vicar and his head doctor is always a solid strategy' - legit henriett's detective diary notes lol

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