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ordinaryschmuck · 4 months
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What I Quickly Thought about What If...? Season Two
For those who don’t know, I’m one of the few people who actually enjoyed What If…? Season One for what it was. Did it take advantage of telling interesting tales with the MCU, giving us intense glimpses of these universes that showed us what COULD HAVE been? Not all the time. Was it still good dumb fun? To me it was. And that’s pretty much what What If…?, as a concept, was, even in the comics. Yeah, you got interesting stuff like “What if Spider-Man never became a crime fighter?” or “What if Daredevil was raised by The Kingpin?” but it also had stuff like “What if the Original Marvel Bullpen Became the Fantastic Four?” or “What if Sargent Fury Fought World War Two in Outer Space?” The comics were less about high-concepts and more about writers doing whatever the hell they wanted with the Marvel Universe and being able to have fun with it because, well, none of it was canon. The same applied to the MCU’s What If…?, as it was a chance for the writers to do a murder mystery with the Avengers or make T’Challa fix the universe as Star-Lord. They can kill characters, make dumb(er) jokes, and play around with the heroes and villains in the MCU like they were action figures. And I’m into that. Don’t get me wrong, I would love more episodes like “What if…Doctor Strange lost his heart instead of his hands?” or “What if…Ultron won?” as they DO have a lot of great moments and show off what these characters are capable of than what the movies/shows proved. But at the same time, I didn’t mind watching the big buff lady that is Captain Carter kill Nazis or watch Spider-Man and a band of heroes try to survive a zombie apocalypse. It’s a show where everyone is meant to just sit back, turn their brain off, and have some fun while occasionally getting something interesting. Again, just like the comics.
So when Season Two got announced, I was genuinely excited. I like Season One and I wanted more of it. Then when the trailer came out with an episode list, I thought, “Okay, this could be the show embracing comic book wackiness.” Now, not a lot of people were into that…In fact, the majority said that a lot of these concepts weren’t even interesting and were, instead, kind of lame. I don’t get it, maybe because I’m in the exact mindset the MCU wants me to have with this series, but I was still looking forward to Season Two. The question is, was it worth it? Well, let’s quickly go over each episode to find out.
Spoilers Ahead
What If…Nebula Joined the Nova Corps?: Ooooooooh, what a great start. Watching Nebula act as a cop/detective, but with her cold, deadpan badassery still intact was a ton of fun in this dark, gritty setting made for this new version of her. I loved watching this new version of Nebula make her way through a darkened Xandar, with her never straying from this oath and acting as it should be intended, all while teaming up with Howard the Duck of all characters. Like, I kind of enjoy seeing Howard turn out to be this sleazy casino owner who treats Nebula as a true friend despite them working on opposite ends of the law. The concept itself is funny and execution is endearing with Seth Green giving much needed charm to the character. It’s part of the fun of What If…?: Showing characters who couldn’t interact in the movies or didn’t have much screen time and allowing them another chance to shine…Unfortunately, that’s not always a good thing. Because while I love seeing a character like Howard make a surprisingly good comeback, watching Yon-Rog, one of the more boring MCU villains, show up and lack any intrigue or fun is just…no. And then there’s Nova Prime who decided to betray the entire Corp by taking down the force field…Something that was HER idea to do and, given the pull she had, could have done at any point. Why string Nebula along when Nova Prime could have just made the ruling herself that the force field needed to be taken down? A friend of mine tried explaining how it could make sense, but I don’t know. It doesn’t change this weird got while watching. But while flawed, it was pretty cool to see this new setting in the MCU, carried by Nebula as the Super Nova (Love that name, by the way. It’s perfect). The plot has a big ol’ hole, not every character return works, but it gave me a half-hour of fun so I’m not complaining (Get used to that thought process, by the way).
What If…Peter Quill Attacked Earth’s Mightiest Heroes?: And this one’s a little rough around the edges. It’s fun to see this alternate version of the Avengers form to fight a Peter Quill who has Ego’s powers, but it feels like the entire episode is on fast-forward, almost like this is what would happen if the first Avengers movie needed to be made thirty-minutes long. It’s sort of the downside of What If having a half-hour runtime, where it has to both tell a story and introduce us to this new universe in under thirty minutes. It’s the same with the comics that had less than thirty pages to do the exact same thing, only to feel longer because comic writers in the seventies and eighties don’t know how to shut the hell up. The end result is a story that’s fine ENOUGH, but it would have benefited with more time to slow down and let us appreciate this new team of old heroes. I mean, we have the original Captain Mar-Vel, T’Challa’s father, and even Goliath, which would have been AWESOME to see them play a big role. But instead, the episode focuses on Hank Pym, Bucky, and THOR, somehow, making these other heroes valued members but also a bit of an afterthought. Also, despite this being a different version of the Avengers, they somehow make MORE quips than the original team, with few of it feeling like it’s in character. It has the same problem as Age of Ultron where everyone is cracking jokes at every second as much as they can, and it HIGHLY depends on your willingness to stomach that kind of  thing if you’re willing to watch this episode. That and if you’re willing to forgive a character doing this STUPID AND RISKY thing that worked out for the better but doesn’t change how stupid and risky it is. Overall, this whole episode is a very interesting idea mixed with some very FLAWED execution that spoils the fun to be had.
What If…Happy Hogan Saved Christmas?: Now this? All kinds of fun to be had with this one. The return of Justin Hammer of all villains isn’t something I thought I needed, but I heavily enjoyed watching what’s basically the anti-Tony Stark show up and be his most despicably charming self. It was a blast to watch this scrawny little twink TRY and act intimidating as he dances all over the place. It makes him feel more and more like a cartoon villain, which is appropriate for yuletide fun. You don’t NEED a menacing presence for Christmas, you need a GOOF. And Hammer’s the goofiest with his lame catchphrases and very STUPID dancing, I couldn’t get enough of it. But the real star is Happy, who gets juiced up for an adaptation I NEVER would have expected from the MCU. The Freak is one of the sides to Happy that not many fans would know about unless they’ve immersed themselves with Iron Man lore (Or read a shit load of comics for the past two years like me), but it really is cool to see that side of him brought to life. The way Happy looks and moves like more of a manic Hulk on crack does great at setting him apart from the Jolly Green Monster we know and love, but also makes The Freak feel more unique from how he was in the comics. It was a blast of a holiday special with the only downside is that Darcy’s OCCASIONALLY annoying. Not much other than that, though, as this is the best Christmas present I could ask from Marvel.
What If…Iron Man Crashed Into the Grandmaster?: Fun fact, this was originally meant to be in Season One but was cut due to time constraints. Yeah, remember how weird it was that the Watcher plucked a version of Gamora we didn’t know? Well, now we finally know…through a story that’s primarily about Tony Stark that makes me wonder why the hell The Watcher didn’t take him.
But facts and jokes aside, I loved the shit out of this episode. There are probably going to be some cynics out there saying that the cars and the race is an excuse to sell toys or LEGO sets or some shit, but I don’t care because everything about it was AWESOME!. Not to mention that it lit up a special place in my heart and brain to watch Tony Stark be a hero again, not hesitating to save lives, putting everything on the line, and helping bring Gamora into the light, all while still being his snarky, Starky self. And huge props to Mick Wingert voicing him, who doesn’t sound like Robert Downy Jr at ALL, but still nails the energy and mannerisms. I can picture RDJ saying all of these lines and it helps make this feel like one last Iron Man story for the fans. Seeing the Grandmaster again was ALSO a plus, as he was his same goofy-self. As for the real hook of this episode, Gamora, she’s…fine. I don’t love that it’s Tony that helped her redemption arc since I always preferred how turning against Thanos was something Gamora decided for herself instead of this thing that someone brought out. It’s not a BAD idea, but it’s something that might have worked better with NEBULA, a character that could actually USE convincing, instead of Gamora, a character who would likely go to Stark to help kill Thanos. Still, I don’t HATE it, nor do I hate the episode. It was an adrenaline thrill-ride that gave us a return of Tony where he DOESN’T die in the end. I couldn’t have asked for more if I heard this episode’s title, and I’m glad it’s what we’ve got.
What If…Captain Carter Fought the Hydra Stomper?: I…KIND OF understand the reception towards Captain Carter. I don’t get why Marvel keeps pushing her more than their actual Captain America replacement, Sam Wilson. I mean, Captain Carter showed up in three projects (two seasons of television and a movie), where Sam made his official appearance as Captain America once…and hasn’t even cameoed in any other movie or show. Now, don’t get me wrong, I like the big buff lady and it’s awesome seeing her fight the giant robot. It’s cool, I love it. I also heavily enjoyed this episode, getting into the drama, action, and seeing Peggy make a surprisingly believable friendship with Black Widow. Heck, I’d go so far as to say that this is a better Black Widow story than her actual movie gave us. So I like it, I like seeing Captain Carter and some of her adventures. I especially like that this story isn’t a direct rehash of Winter Soldier like how the first episode is a rehash of First Avenger. The writers actually set out to make something more unique and it makes me like Captain Carter a little more. I just wish we could get that same love and appreciation towards Sam Wilson, whose movie got pushed back to 2025 and will count as the only time this character has been relevant since his mini-series. If this is our new leader of the Avengers and the man who will fight to save the multiverse, we’re probably going to need more than one appearance from the guy. I don’t think people would complain about more Captain Carter if Sam Wilson’s Captain America wasn’t so blatantly shoved too far to the side.
What If…Kahhori Reshaped the World?: One of the few rare times the MCU made an ORIGINAL superhero. There is no previous comic, movie, or show that Kahhori is based on. She’s a completely original character made up for this franchise, much like Miles Morales in the Ultimate universe or X-23 in X-Men Evolution (Check that show out, by the way. It’s pretty damn good). And just like those two, I REALLY hope Kahhori manages to become such a hit with audiences that she spawns more content, because Kahhori and her world is something I would love to revisit. Her personality is fun, her motivation is inspiring, and her powers are unique enough to make her stand out more to the other heroes in the MCU. As for her story, it’s your bare-bones origin story. The whole episode is about explaining her powers, the world she lives in, and the people she loves and fights for. It does all this while proving her heroics through fighting a supervillain set out to do some damage. Only, instead of some generic supervillain that matches her powers it’s this Spanish Conquistador who…honestly still looks like a supervillain, which is kind of funny. And it works for Kahhori, proving that while she’s currently the most powerful person in the world, she’s willing to fight against oppression and the monarchy, advocating for peace instead of a continuous war for who gains the most control. Like I said, that’s inspiring and it’s why I want to see more of this character and how far she can go when fighting bigger, more evil threats than the Queen of Spain. Whether it’s a spin-off TV show/movie, a comic mini-series, or even introducing Kahhori into the 616 comics (somehow), I wouldn’t mind seeing this new, wonderful hero more in the future.
What If…Hela Found the Ten Rings?: I…did not expect to like this one as much as I did. I wasn’t the BIGGEST fan of Hela, because aside from seeing her actress having a blast to go full ham, there wasn’t much to her. Yeah, she was this conqueror alongside Odin, which is an interesting backstory for HIM, but for Hela, it’s not enough. Instead of telling me WHO she is, Thor: Ragnarok kept telling me WHAT she was. Then here comes an episode of What If…? that not only gives me that answer, but a lot more. Sure, the first half is a bit wonky, but when we get to the second, we finally get an idea of who Hela is. Simply put, Hela doesn’t know who she is beyond a conqueror, and that’s because Odin never trained nor raised her to be anything more. This episode forces Hela to face that and discover answers she never knew she was seeking, having a surprisingly decent redemption, becoming a goddess of life instead of death. I…love that. I love that WAY MORE than I could have expected to love it. It makes me appreciate Hela a lot more and maybe see that there’s a tragedy to her in Thor: Ragnarok. Hela could have changed for the better if she met someone that could bring her good side out, but because she was banished into isolation by Odin, it caused Hela to be both spiteful and vengeful, making her refuse any alternative beyond being a conqueror or a goddess of death, with her final acts of life being someone who destroyed her home because destruction was all she knew. This episode has a better, more unique story to tell than Hela and Wenwu fighting over the Ten Rings to see who can cause more destruction. Speaking of, if there’s one thing to complain about the episode, it’s how underutilized Wenwu is to the story. He’s actually one of MY favorite MCU villains and it feels weird that he’s just…kind of there? Most of the meat to the story goes to Hela, and I do appreciate it, but Wenwu could have done more than wanting to bone Hela or assisting her in fighting Odin. But aside from that, I’d still say that this is a fantastic episode that surpassed my expectations.
What If…The Avengers Assembled in 1602?: Of all the episodes, this is the one I was looking forward to the most. I’m a sucker for seeing characters in a different setting. They’re very much the same in terms of personality but their differences vary from positions in life or the skills they’re capable of. It’s no different here, as so much of this feels like a period piece fanfic where the writers seemed to have so much fun making the Avengers be in 1602. And I don’t give a shit if people hate her, I LOVE that Captain Carter refuses to leave this world until she saves it from complete collapse. It would have been the same if it was Steve Rogers, I get that, but how do you expect me to hate a hero who’s willing to fight with her last breath to save the world? Those are my favorite kind of superheroes! You want me to give up what I love most about superheroes just because you don’t like that the big buff lady fights King Thor and his vibranium thunder sword? F**k you.
Also, this comes with the added benefit of watching big buff Steve and big buff Peggy constantly being on the VERGE of wanting to rip their clothes off and f**k each other whenever they’re on screen together. And, honestly, I can't blame them. They’re both gorgeous. LET THEM F**K!
Overall, I had fun, even if there are problems. Sure, the reveal that Steve is indirectly the cause of this universe’s collapse is way too predictable, no thanks in large part to the trailers SPOILING IT! And it’s pretty weird that Scott can still shrink and grow. Like…How can he do that in this setting? Also, this universe has a merry band of misfits that’s similar to Robin Hood, and there’s not even a SINGLE Hawkeye in it? Not even Kate Bishop? COME ON NOW! Come on now…
But, yeah, this episode is the perfect epitome of what makes What If…? enjoyable to me. It can offer you a fun concept of having the Avengers be in 1602 and just ask you to sit back, relax, and enjoy the show. Not everyone’s going to be into that, but I am and I could take ten more seasons of this if I could.
What If…Strange Supreme Intervened?: You want me to hate the big buff lady and new MCU character Kahhori fighting Strange Supreme and a whole gaggle of universe killers just because *checks notes* Captain Carter is a Mary Sue? F**k you. I don’t care if you feel like Captain Carter is forced upon you, she punched a demonic Doctor Strange in the face with the power of INFINITY. That is awesome no matter WHO the character is and if you can’t appreciate it, then I guess this show really isn’t for you. As for the finale, the whole thing is awesome as this big fireworks show to close out the season, added with Strange Supreme going back to the dark side for the sake of reviving his universe. I’ll admit that Strange Supreme had a bit of a forced redemption last season, so it is great for this finale to prove that he is, in fact, still twisted inside while allowing him to earn a more true redemption in making up for his actions. It makes his tragedy STILL feel like a tragedy, giving everyone but him a happy ending. And, again, he got punched in the face with the power of infinity. F**k all you haters, this show’s great.
Season Two is a definite improvement to Season One. Sure, the pacing is wonky, the jokes are trying too hard, and animation can look gorgeous at times but ugly at others. But the writing’s stronger, the concepts are bigger, the fun’s funner, and I got to see a woman punch a demon in the face with the power of infinity–I keep bringing that up because it is so damn awesome. And it’s the same with this show! It just fuels that part of my brain that wants to see cool, comic book shit happening. It’s not for everyone, I know that. It’s neither good nor bad, it’s just…subjectively fun. It’ll either light up your world or leave you wanting more substance than dumb fun. I enjoyed the hell out of this season, but others won’t for their own reasons (some of them being that they just hate Captain Carter). They can feel that way all they want. Still won’t change how I enjoyed the hell out of this season and look forward to more.
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shadowjinx626 · 4 months
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You know the more MCU Odin content comes out, the more it's confirm that he never was a good or well intentioned parent that many fans believed him to be.
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lynngifs909 · 1 year
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Thor Ragnarok (2017)
Dir by. Taika Waititi
Cate Blanchett as Hela, Chris Hemsworth as Thor, Tom Hiddleston as Loki.
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sun-mooncomics · 4 months
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Wait Wait wait wait! Are we having a hero Hela?
YES!
Please, Please please please please
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luvtonys · 4 months
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𝐘𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐞𝐫𝐞! 𝐌𝐂𝐔 𝐕𝐢𝐥𝐥𝐢𝐚𝐧𝐬 𝐱 𝐅𝐞𝗺! 𝐑𝐞𝐚𝐝𝐞𝐫
Warnings: TW: Mention of Female parts, yandere, mentions of murder and violence, possessive/obsessive behavior, stalking, heavy mentions of NSFW, and mentions of baby-trapping, power abuse, blackmail, forced relationships, manipulation, and gaslighting
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𝐻𝑒𝑙𝑎- 𝑇ℎ𝑜𝑟 𝑅𝑎𝑔𝑛𝑜𝑟𝑎𝑘
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Feels that she as a goddess she has every right to your love and you she wants you to completely give yourself to her and she promises you’ll enjoy it. She’s so protective and doesn’t like when she feels that your drifting away from her because of someone wether that be a superhero of some sort trying to save you or your friends telling you how she’s too toxic for you. She won’t take lightly to it and make it her mission to end them for good.
With an ego like hers she loves hearing you call her your queen or mommy she so dominant no matter if your male or female she always wants to take the lead sexually and non sexually and finds it cute when you step up to her just to slouch back down. Being an Asgardian/ goddess and you most likely a human she always has her eyes on you and leaves the most beautiful jewels and expenses that money can’t even afford at your will. Even getting you lingerie as a female or some sort of submissive kinky gift as a male.
I can see her forcing you into a relationship with her if you ever fear her and turn down her romantic proposal stating that “You don’t have a chose, Darling” I all the way see her calling you darling or sweetheart if you are one. Or even saying “I’ll get you one way or another” Run… When it comes to you she doesn’t play she’s willing to go through the Valkyrie again to have you in her arms once again forever.
Her jealousy and anger may be one of your biggest fears seeing her ruthlessly kill people you love and care about with ease sparring no one anything but life. She is the main character in your story it should always be her you revolve around or constantly hang around. But things can go smoothly with her give her words of reassurance, don’t disobey her, and make sure other people around know who you belong to. I can see her enjoying a good steamy make out session and will put a knife through the heart of any mere mortal or announce that ruins any of her moments with you.
People even began to stir clear of you even drunk men/ women are smart enough to walk past you since seeing your face sends a shiver down everyone’s spine. Encountering you would mean encountering the goddess of death who no human wants to die at the hand of the ruthless and savage Hela. She has no heart for people or bother you or talk to you and people begin to learnt that quickly when Hela makes an unexpected appearance for herself she probably even rules earth by keeping people out of the way of her lovesick obsession.
She’s one of the people who see you as an possession more than a human with rights. She makes your decisions and decides what’s good for you and what isn’t like your family or the those people you call friends who are clearly just jealous that you have someone. She poisons your mind to make you believe that everyone around you doesn’t like you and only says things about her to keep you away from ‘someone he loves you more than anything in the universe’ she has strings attached to you that aren’t coming undone any time soon.
So except her to be the somewhat loving but manipulative type making you believe everyone is out to get and she just wants to protect you. She forces you to go to events to places with her while you arm and arm or hand hand she’ll kiss you a occasionally staring at the guy who was looking at you from across the room. She wants makes you submit to her. And doesn’t like you taking anyones word or advice before or over hers she’s the person with the say and opinions on you so as well as she can be loving she can also be toxic like above average yander toxic ready to kill someone’s for breathing her precious darling air. She views you as the most precious and priceless thing in the entire universe
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𝐸𝑟𝑖𝑘 𝐾𝑖𝑙𝑙𝑚𝑜𝑛𝑔𝑒𝑟- 𝐵𝑙𝑎𝑐𝑘 𝑃𝑎𝑛𝑡ℎ𝑒𝑡
𖧷𖧷𖧷𖧷
Erik is the type to be Protective, possessive, obsessive, delusional. He always ignores your attempts at telling him as you being shy. He definitely lays a claim on you treats you as a possession for himself that he can do what he wants with not r4p3 wise. I can see him with a D4ddy k!nk and totally likes it rough and also likes to have his hand on your throat during it while hearing the sounds he pulls out of you.
Let’s say you guys are a one night stand he’s gonna shoot his load inside while lying that the condom broke so when you find out that your pregnant from the pregnancy taste he gave you and the discarded plan B he destroyed he convinces you forces you to stay with him and raise the child together. He also uses your pregnancy as an excuse to stay with you at all times or isolate you at home ‘for your protection’ and even having making you move into his home with him. Which he has cameras stored in even the bathroom.
Erik can be very sweet and fluffy with cuddling you, stroking your hair, and telling you how much he loves you while hugging you from the back and caressing you hips and wrapping his arms around you. He still loves is obsessed with you. A lot of the times that he has hugged you from behind he purposely turns it into a make out session which then leads to other things in his bedroom. I feel like Erik tries to get it on a lot between the two of you it could go from suggestive but small touches on your waist, bottom, and breast to him thrusting his fingers up your 🐱.
Erik like I said is possessive and protective so if you ever wanna go to the club or a party with or without him your outfit will need to be approved by him since what he says goes wether you like it or not~ And if you don’t like how he won’t let you wear the skimpy outfit while with your friends, then you don’t need to go at all you can just stay home and bend over for him. This leads to him being too strict he always cracks down on you about being around guys or even interacting with one.
You shouldn’t even interact with a waiter at a restaurant you should let him do the talking for you when it comes to men. And if you don’t that’s a bloody mess that he’ll have to clean up which he won’t be happy about and a night you’ll you manipulated into thinking that it was your fault and h to at every guy he has killed for interacting to looking at you is your fault.
He even gaslights you into believing that you’re wrong and have gone crazy and he’s just taking care of you. If you question him on things or ask about the male friends you used to have he’ll simply bring it back on you and how you shouldn’t have brought them into his wrath in the first place
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𝑁𝑎𝑚𝑜𝑟- 𝑊𝑎𝑘𝑎𝑛𝑑𝑎 𝐹𝑜𝑟𝑒𝑣𝑒𝑟
𖣔𖣔𖣔𖣔𖣔
Namor is so the one to force into a relationship with you especially after he lets you see his homeland giving him the perfect excuse to keep you there with him as his queen. And don’t want you up there by yourself as the surface dwellers aren’t good people and may take you from him. He will make you be able to breath under there like he can. If you ever do sneak above the water and onto the land he’ll know about it and with track you down with ease.
If he ever finds out that you are being held by authorities there will be a battle against them with his warriors and people that won’t back down. Best believe he will turn that land upside down for you and his people will too. He also isn’t at all by any means afraid to get his hands dirty as he considers the surface dwellers themselves, dirty and doesn’t want you around them much longer which may even lead to isolation and manipulating you into believing he really does know what’s best for you and that you don’t since the land people have tainted you for so long he is the one who is helping your out of that by making decisions for you and treating you as if your not an adult.
Namor does in fact require life from you if it isn’t given to him he’ll go wild. If he happens to mess things up in land or wherever he’ll blame you for making him feel such things. He’s a total sucker for love. Namor is so very delusional it’s crazy he is really convinced that you really belong to him and that you need him to help you with your tainted mind that was ruined by the land people. And as a king Namor can and will use this to his advantage and have his people keep you with him.
So not only do you have Namor on your heels but his entire nation of strong people who stop at nothing to make sure that your in his arms or in his sight at all times. Hell even threaten the safety of your family into you telling you how he wouldn’t want something to happen to your mother all because you didn’t want to let him love you if he ever did commit murder onto your family he’d make it be a lesson to you to give him what he wants and to not question his love obsession.
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𝐿𝑜𝑘𝑖 𝐿𝑎𝑢𝑓𝑒𝑦𝑠𝑜𝑛- 𝑇ℎ𝑜𝑟
𓆙𓆙𓆙𓆙
Loki as the God of Mischief would probably trick you into marrying or dating him or even mistaking you guys’s relationship as romantic when it could be platonic. He could trap you in his room after showing you Asgard after you asked about it. And as a mortal giving you the golden apple of immortality.
He loves to spoil you and treat you as his queen and even make other people treat you as such asgardian or earthlings he wants them all to treat you as the well-deserved treasure you truly are. I can see him also wanting to have little evil spawns of himself running around and growing inside your belly as it would be pleasing yo him and he feels that getting your belly big and painting your insides white with his sperm would sure lay his claim on you as his forever.
Since he believe Loki as the God he is believed that he deserves only the best a God to which he deems you as the best their is so therefore he deserves you. And if you don’t want to cooperate then he has no problem making you by magic or powers of other goodness or even scaring you into it gaslighting you and punishing you into believing everyone before him did not care nor love for you and he is the only one who has genuinely loved you.
He loves to make you think you’re going crazy as he watched you break down in tears it lets him know the true power and control he has on you which turns me on. He likes to know that he can break you really easily and likes to let you know aswell so you can get the idea and plans of escaping and leaving him out of your head or he’ll force them out.
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7thcirclebaker · 19 days
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Doing a full rewatch to not have to think that much and god everyone in Thor is so much saltier once you've seen as far as Ragnarok, like in hindsight
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filmmarvel · 1 year
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Thor: Ragnarok Costumes and Color Analysis- Hela and Loki
Hela: A fun detail- her suit first appears ripped, but the rips repair themselves once she gets to Asgard, where her power is strongest. Her costume is form fitted, to allow lots of movement in battle, and let her ride Fenris. Her colors are black and green. The black is pretty obvious, it symbolizes her darkness, power/authority, and of course, death. Green on the other hand, regularly represents greed and ambition. In this instance, her ambitious goals of conquering beyond the Nine Realms. I love the figure of her cape and costume, it’s one of my favorites. It’s regal enough to be intimidating and worn as a ruler, agile enough for battle (without being super unnecessarily low cut like some other female characters in the MCU), and menacing enough to reflect her identity as the goddess of death and intimidate her enemies.
Loki: Loki’s costumes here are interesting. He starts off wearing yellow as he pretends to be Odin (interestingly, yellow can sometimes represent deception), then transitions to his typical green, representing his envy of Thor and desire for power. However, once in Sakaar, he’s seen in different colors than the other movies he’s featured in. His typical green is broken down into a blue suit with a yellow cape. Blue can symbolize predictability (a solid theme for Loki in this film), and integrity & loyalty as he gains the trust of the Grandmaster (also ironically misleading for Thor, as Loki betrays him once more). Yellow on the other hand, can represent opportunity, as he attempts to convince Thor to stay and rise in power in Sakaar. His yellow cape also (as I mentioned before) represents deception, hidden behind his misleading blue suit. By the end of the film, after revealing his intentions to Thor, he has returned to his classic green. I really like this movie for Loki, he’s allowed a little more freedom with his costumes, between the three mentioned here, and the suit he wears to see Doctor Strange. This is kind of random but I also really like the way his first green costume is layered, it has a nice flow to it.
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ejdaha · 2 years
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< Badass women appreciation post>
Morgana Pendragon // Merlin (2008)
Regina Mills// Once upon a time (2011)
Elaine parks// The love witch (2016)
Hela// Thor Ragnarok (2017)
Morticia Addams // The Addams family (1991)
Maleficent // Maleficent (2014)
Agatha Harkness// WandaVision (2021)
Poison ivy // Batman & Robin (1997)
Catwoman // Catwoman (2004)
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autismmydearwatson · 9 months
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"Yeah Mr White I've got it figured out. I'm not completely stupid. *sigh* Hela is powerful because she's the Goddess of death, and she is tied to wherever the dead are buried. And so she gets her power from Asgard...because Asgard is like a breeding ground for coffin flies. Because of all the slaves in mass graves, bitch"
* grabs your shoulders and shakes you like a ragdoll* Jesse. JESSE . Listen to me. You are completely stupid! Because you're forgetting ONE! One very important thing. Do you seriously think all the dead in Asgard are buried under a castle????? NO! No. No. Hahaha. No. They were. But NOW they burn their dead ...at sea! They burn them at sea, Jesse! Why do you think they do that, huh? HUH?! Because Odin KNOWS burying them will make her more powerful!!!! DO YOU UNDERSTAND ME?!??
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constantvariations · 2 years
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#also a lot of feelings abt hela bc HOT DAMN IS THAT A CAN OF WORMS <--- okay but what are your thoughts on hela??? i think she has a lot of unused potential and would love to know your opinions!
Wasted potential is definitely the main consensus. In Gagnarok she was a one dimensional Big Bad whose only traits seem to be snarky and violent, which wouldn't be terrible for a standalone popcorn comedy, but is incredibly stupid and out of place within the emotionally nuanced Thor franchise
It's such a disappointment we never got to see anything beyond her capacity to do harm. Why doesn't she give half a damn about her siblings? Why's she so helbent on conquering the universe? Where has she even BEEN these past 1000+ years???
Answering that last question can spin her entire character in wildly different directions. If Odin trapped her in a pocket dimension where she basically slept until her release, then her canon attitude makes some sense. If she's been in Hel the entire time, either chilling with the dead or ruling the realm like in mythos proper, then why isn't she giving more of a fuck about Thanos trying to slaughter half the universe (be it because his idiotic plan is going to overflow her realm or perhaps a grimdark take would have her joining him for the lolz)? If she's been in a dimensional cage with one way glass so she can see life continue without her, why isn't she more interested in being around people, specifically her brothers, ESPECIALLY the stolen war child who was also abused and tossed out by the absolute eggplant that is Odin?
And another thing: why is her aesthetic literally Loki without any gold? Shouldn't that visual parallel have, yknow, meant something??? At this point I'm just mad that Cate Blanchett wasn't cast as Lady Loki because that would've honestly been perfect and she would've pulled it off SO GOOD
To me, the most heinous crime is pardoning Odin's bullshit simply because Hela was "worse" and "went too far." Like, babe, she learned it from somewhere and I highly doubt it was Frigga (if Frigga even is her mother). It's like giving Stalin a pass because Hitler had a higher body count; it's stupid as fuck and they both deserve to be held accountable for their actions
All in all, Hela in Gagnarok is a fun yet disappointing mess. I think it's a shame we never get to see any side of her that isn't overcompetent warmonger. She should've been able to bond with her brothers, especially Loki, as she pulled the wool from Thor’s eyes completely in regards to their father, helping complete his arc of finding his own path rather than blindly following Odin's example. She would've been an excellent way to explore Asgard, both its militant culture and how its influence molded the realms to Bor and Odin's wills. She should've been allowed to grieve and heal and grow past Odin's treatment and expectations of her to find a place with the family she was denied
Hela could've been so many things, but instead all we'll ever get is a bad joke
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alexa-santi-author · 1 year
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Okay, this article made me LOL, and it was funny because it’s true. 😂
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Thor: Ragnarok (2017)
Dir By.Taika Waititi
Cate Blanchett as Hela Goddess of Death.
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sun-mooncomics · 4 months
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See, Hela falls to earth and speaks to the people in their language AND SHE A GOD
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dexhopper · 2 years
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A Theory: Why Hela got more powerful the longer she was on Asgard, as well as Thor having inherited the Odinforce in the MCU, but not from Odin.
(Kinda long post: TLDR at the end in bold)
I've recently responded to a post asking a very simple question; why did Hela get more powerful the longer she was on Asgard in Thor: Ragnarok?
It's not spoken of in the movies much, but Odin's power comes from the Odinforce, which when he dies passes to the next Allfather. Thor got it in the comics, which improved his already existing powers as well as giving him a few other nifty abilities that helped him out, such as teleportation without use of the Bifrost and the power to contain a nuclear missle's explosion. Per the avatar of the Odinforce, the power Thor had to recreate celestial bodies while in possession of it didn't even hold a candle to the Odinforce's true powers.
You may be asking at this point, what's the relation to Hela? In the comics, and the original mythology, she's supposedly the daughter of Loki but in the movie they changed this relation so that she was the only daughter and eldest child of Odin. This made her the true heir to the throne of Asgard and, by extension, the Odinforce. That is why her power is so strongly tied to Asgard once she emerges; Odin's already gone and the inheritance of the Odinforce is taking place throughout her entire appearance.
She got the Odinforce, which holds the power of Odin and his two brothers, and represents the spirit of Asgard as a people, so the more time she spent at the physical location, and the more time that passed since Odin died, the more her powers were boosted by the Odinforce.
A question I received upon this explanation is that if Asgard is gone, then is the Odinforce gone as well?
Well, Eitri says when explaining Stormbreaker in Infinity War that it was designed for the King of Asgard to wield, so it's probably built to channel the Odinforce the same way Mjolnir in the comics channels/contains a primordial storm deity.
My bet is that it went with Thor when Hela was killed in Surtur's rampage, but that he only began to actively channel it after acquiring a focusing device in Stormbreaker. After all, that's what the MCU Mjolnir was, a focusing tool for his innate power.
I was then asked if Odin needed such a device, and if that device was Gungnir, Odin's ornate spear. I think it's implied that Gungnir was Odin's focusing device, and if not, well, Odin did have more time with the power, so maybe his mastery of it made a focusing tool irrelevant and the spear was more decorative after all those thousands of years.
This theory was then questioned by another user pointing out that none of the 'focusing tool' concept is necessary to Odin; that he could use his power without the need of an aid.
To that I answered, that's the point. It's not strictly necessary, but it does help to focus the Odinforce so that someone inexperienced with it, as Thor would be when he inevitably inherited it, wouldn't go overboard and do things they'd regret with their newfound Allfather level powers.
Odin likely came into possession of Gungnir when he was younger, and in a similar position to what he was worried about later with Thor, so he needed a focus while he learned to properly manage the power he'd created with his brothers' sacrifices. It's a precaution, not a necessity.
To sum it all up, Hela was the oldest child of Odin at the time of his death. She began to inherit the source of his power, the Odinforce, and that's why she began to grow more powerful the more time she spent in Asgard. It was the place, as well as the inheritance process moving along, that kept boosting her power. When she died, the Odinforce then passed onto Thor who began channeling it through Stormbreaker.
I also think that Mjolnir being a focus for Thor's innate power served a dual purpose; it got Thor to stop messing shit up, sure, but it also provided valuable training in focusing power through tools that he'd need when inheriting the Odinforce, something Odin himself did not have when learning to manage his own power.
Let me know what you think of this! I don't know how accurate this is, so if you have any thoughts, let me know!
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divine-knight-hand · 9 months
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I was surfing on Pinterest and found a bunch of fanarts that reminded me so much of my latest WIP! I’m having high hopes for this series.
So, if you’d like to see the vibe I’m working towards in my writing, check out all these fanarts (and support the respective artists behind them, of course!):
Due to Pinterest being a weird place, and the ship name appearing in so many fanart captions, I feel the need to emphasize that I do NOT ship Thor x Loki. They’re brothers, so that’s just gross… Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.
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