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#me s4: *sees violet* my god they actually did it
literalite · 10 days
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I remember you saying you liked young justice so I wanted to know who's your favourite character or the one you think is most like you? I've been attached by the hip to this show since I was 13 so I'm a little... not normal about it lol.
also opinions on s3?
YES oh my god it was like formative media for me genuinely and i still love yj dearly i was rewatching it like last month actually along with yaboyroshi's reactions to it 😅 we are both a little not normal about this show dw 🤝🏼 im putting the rest of this under a cut because i start Yapping
my fave characters were dick, artemis, jaime, bart, and zatanna! dick i was Obsessed with from the moment i laid eyes on him in hindsight for gender reasons, probably but artemis always meant a huge deal to me as a kid because she was like the only vietnamese character (and with a skintone like mine!) that i'd ever seen on a screen. i loved everything about jaime's character and personality and arc and i had a really soft spot for bart because characters who are very outwardly upbeat and fun but are going through a lot of shit and hiding it are my favourites ever usually 😅. i also liked rlly them as a duo. zatanna's sort of cool-girl sass was always really fun to see and i think especially in s4 where her sort of less-rigid morality had more room to shine, really made me appreciate her character more. OH also when they introduced cassandra wu-san/orphan in s3 i like literally cheered out loud 😭 shes one of my fave characters from dc comics in general, so i was already biased towards her and i really liked her depiction and the room they made for her arc
i'm actually not sure which character is the most like me... i think because i watched it so young a lot of the characters kind of made their way into my personality in one way or another. i think irl im most like dick but it could be wishful thinking 😅 i'm not as cool as he is for sure
season three.... i'm kind of on the fence about it? i will say though i think it was a little rough with the dialogue especially, and i definitely didn't bond as well with the outsiders as i did with the original team and then the s2 cast. violet was the most likeable of the group by far but i think i was really put off by the fact that they kept killing them 💀 like i get that you guys can do this now with the higher rating but there are better ways to show off your newfound creative freedom than repeatedly brutally killing them. it was offset with the majority of the other characters suffering from basically no visible injuries too- if they'd been hit with bruises or scrapes or broken bones or ANYTHING and reduced the harm dealt to vi then i would've been less urgh by it.
i also wish they'd introduced victor a bit earlier into the season instead of spending sooo much time with brion because cyborg's story felt a little tacked on at the end, and um i was annoyed by brion from the jump 😭😭 tried so hard to sympathise with him because to be fair he went through a Lot but he just kept being such an aggressive ass to like everyone. which i guess was the point.. didn't make it any more fun to watch though.
i do like that they kept with the huge mass of entangled threads of the plot that were to me the hallmarks of the earlier seasons, picking apart scenes to try and work out how things interconnect was always my favourite part. i think the cast of the show at this point for what they were trying to do and focus on may have exceeded the show's bounds though- it was still a compelling narrative but i imagine for a casual watcher who isnt as meticulously invested in who is who and can recognise adaptations of arcs from the comics it can get very confusing or frustrating. its hard because i Love the og cast too but i think with s3 they couldn't decide on letting them go or letting their new characters shine and it ended up muddying the waters a bit, with the outsiders suffering the most from it due to no nostalgia or prior narrative heft to keep them from looking secondary to the original members of the team.
with s4 they chose to throw their lot behind the old team, which i appreciated and it neatened the rough edges of the show more, but i do still miss the s2 cast quite badly so i actually kind of wish they'd kept expanding the cast but just narrowed focus onto the new characters for every season. the title of the show is young justice, so i personally would've liked to keep seeing a focus on the newer and rising heroes of each successive generation as opposed to returning again and again to the originals
sorry that this is such a wall of text 😅 but i think this is one of the shows that i could genuinely just like sit and talk about for ages and ages... even the characters i dont like at all have a fair amount of gravity and heft to them that i love. wally is still alive btw i will never stop believing 😤 get that man out of the speed force!
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spacedlexi · 4 years
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Hello! I like your TWDG art and I'm curious if the Final Season was your first exposure to TWDG series? What do you think of the series overall, if you've played them? Any favourite characters outside of S4? I personally stopped playing the games after S2 left me severely disappointed, I think S1 will always be the best of them.
oooo cool questions. and thank you!!
my first exposure to twdg was actually when the demo dropped for the first season!! yea ive secretly been here the Whole Time lmao i didnt play it myself tho i watched my friend play. it was the first time i had been exposed to the telltale choice game kind of format and i didnt really know how to feel about it so i didnt pick it up for myself i just watched others play. it took me a while to catch up and i didnt finish the first season until after s2 ended
the end of season one, like with most people, left me like.....really super heart broken and emotional like man i was Empty inside ahah that ending still and always will get me just Right in the fuckin heart meat. so, feeling as empty as i did and wanting to know where clems story went i jumped Right into season 2 ............ and that left me even More fuckin empty and sad than season 1 lmao fuckin season 2 is probably The most depressing season imo i didnt think i could feel worse than the end of s1 but s2 took it as a challenge
i Hated s2 and was really suffering through it but when kenny showed up i was like OH THANK GOD a familiar face (even tho he really tested my patience in S1) because i capital H Hated the new cast. sarah was fine and luke was Generally ok for the most part but the adults pissed me the Fuck off and still do for how they treated clem (an 11 year old!!) like a whole ass adult and personal therapist. but then kenny got Real scary after the whole sarita thing and jane was pissin me off for not only constantly pushing kenny (a man who was desperately holding onto a very thin thread) but for trying to convince clem that she didnt need anyone and that she’d be better off on her own (AN 11 YEAR OLD!! in the zombie apocalypse!! even tho yea the s2 cast were shit to be around). looking at s2 in hindsight the only good thing about it was AJ..bby boy...
and then about a year or so later the trailer for s3 dropped and i was like YES look at clem fuckin badass fuckin shotgun fuckin take no shit Yes but then i was soooooooooo so disappointed when i found out you were gonna be playing as some fuckin Nobody new character i was like fuck off i just want clem back. season 3 was just....pretty boring in my opinion and the only saving grace was whenever clem was around and the whole “wheres aj” plot that i wish the game focused on instead. out of the s3 cast (minus clem/aj) i only really cared for javi and mari...and well.....we all kno what happens to mari and how fast l o l rip. eps 1-3 (generously) were ok and interesting but the final eps just... ehhh. also jesus was ok but hes also a part of the comics/show whatever so he doesnt rack up points for telltale. javi flirting with him was pretty cool tho. both protags are bisexual you love to see it. bi rights hell yeah
AND THEN....SEASON 4. i immediately fell in love with the entire cast (even when vi was mean to her when they first spoke cuz i was like “yeah yeah i know you dont mean it i saw the way you were lookin at her from the wall i KNOW youre gonna be a romance option”). the whole troubled youth boarding school was such a great choice finally clem was around people her fuckin age no more adults looking to her for guidance or to parent. and she was Top Dog these kids had no real experience and i knew it was only a matter of time before she slipped into the role as their leader. i was NOT expecting it to be because of how ep 1 ends like omfg the end of the 1st ep is just.....Real Good. the ep itself was pretty slow getting you introduced to everyone but my god shit gets Real the moment clem walks into that basement and from then on out the ep is just Wild and ends with a (literal) bang.
E2 started testing my patience with a few characters (lookin at you louis specifically (even tho i still like you) because i will never get over how now AJ was the one being treated like an adult (A 5 YEAR OLD WHO ONLY KNOWS KILL MONSTERS TO SURVIVE and has never been in a group setting that he can remember))(its why my clem could never romance louis sorry dude) but violet was 💕💕 amazing standing up for clem and aj against the whole group and she takes on the role as leader cuz “no one else stepped the fuck up” i love her.... and then lily shows up and the whole drama with the raiders AGH love it
up until this point i was still just watching others play since the seasons were either too depressing or boring for me to want to pick it up for myself
but then telltale shut down. and i was like.....oh my god....clems story is gonna get cut right at the end?? i loved this new cast and i dont get to see how it ends??? im not gonna get to play it for myself!??!?! so when skybound stepped in and saved it i bought it up IMMEDIATELY i was like “that was TOO CLOSE im gonna finish this series for myself Dammit” and i did and it was great i played eps 3 and 4 when they dropped at midnight im so glad i got to experience the ending for myself on my own. i cried ahhaha so fuckin hard and i still do CLEEEEMMMM you did it bitch i love you
season 1 and 4 are really the only ones i like. and for me s4 ranks higher than s1 because of the cast and the found family trope and how its just..not as fuckin desperate and depressing and hopeless. it really just comes down to preference but s4 wins for me with s1 close second. i only ever go through seasons 2 and 3 for the sake of setting up s4 like its just formality aha. plus getting ajs plot established makes it worth it. and knowing how clems story ends makes the depressing parts easier to get through
SO YEAH OOF SORRY for the long answer i talk way too much ahah but i do really love this game. seasons 1 and 4 now reside snugly in a little corner of my heart where they will stay until i die lmao. if you havent i definitely recommend at least going through s4!!
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pi-creates · 4 years
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what are all of your canon choices for each s4 episode? like did you kill the walker couple? did you bury ms. martin? did you shoot lilly? did you trust aj? i'm very curious!
Here is where I expose that I was in the minority for a lot of the major choices in TFS...
Episode 1:
I didn’t kill the walker couple. I would have due to remembering that moment in S2 where Clem got attacked going through the security window - but then AJ opened his mouth and I was like “oh no, little buddy...”. People come first, and with no evidence that going through the window would be negative, it seemed like an important empathy teaching moment for AJ. (And if there was a walker in that room I would be screaming how? since the building was locked, the room was locked, and those windows were boarded too well for something to get in)
And I put a stopper on the AJ swears. I know it doesn’t really matter, but having heard toddlers with absolutely filthy language IRL... yeah, I don’t like it. Be a kid for a bit longer, AJ.
Learn to share. AJ hasn’t had to do that before so I get why he has problems with it, but I encouraged him to return everything.
I went hunting with the boys. And then went rabbit shooting with Aasim. Because if you read my last response about shipping... yeah, I wanted to romance the archer boy. To be fair, I just generally agree more with Aasim’s long-term survival plan.
I let Abel take the food. And as foolish as some people might think it is, since he kept emphasising he just wanted dinner I was fine with him taking a portion. We were still getting more food than we had before. Plus yeah, I value life more than the prospect of one more theoretical dinner when we had other sources to use.
And at the end of the episode I appealed to Louis - because yeah, I spent more time with him than Violet. It made more sense with my previous choices.
Episode 2:
Bad, AJ. No assassination headshots under this roof. That is a very quick way to lose friends.
I told AJ to give Louis his gun. I wasn’t under the impression that Louis was going to keep it - though with how long it took for him to give it back I did start doubting myself.
Be nice to James... why wouldn’t you at that point? Though I am still suspicious of where he got that apple...
Buried Ms Martin. This was more about Ruby, and she clearly needed the closure. I don’t think it really is necessary to bury walkers, but people’s feelings on the issue take precedence over my own opinions.
DISCO BROCCOLI SHIRT. AJ’s face was so happy, I had to.
Brick trap... definitely not because it was Aasim’s idea. (actually not sarcasm, it is more practical)
Marry Aasim (duh at this point), Flip Ruby, Kill James... one of those things did end up happening, so foreshadowing I guess.
If you love Ruby so much, go to talk to her, guy. Seriously, I would wingman/wingwoman the hell out of this situation if you want it, Aasim. But you have to take the first step if you want to walk that road.
Piano date. Though I didn’t carve the heart initially... a bit too cheesy for my taste. Though there was smooches, so maybe I’m not immune to cheese.
No, AJ. You don’t get to call dibs on killing people. And no swears. Accidental swears are fine - I’m not going to punish it, but I would rather he not put them into his general language.
Save Louis... and I felt like an absolute dick. Like... this decision was awful to make. Violet came to the rescue when Lilly had the gun on Clem, and it sucks that you can’t return the favour. But like... why did you do this to me, game?
Episode 3:
No Abel torture, not with AJ there. And even if he wasn’t, I don’t think I’d go that far. Maybe I would refuse water and stub out the cigarette - but I wouldn’t hurt him. And yeah, Mercy kill. He wanted that.
James asks me not to kill the walkers, so I don’t kill the walkers. He wants me to listen to his opinions on walkers, so I listen. He wants reassurance that his opinions have a semblance of logic to them?.... uhh, this one is more washy. I say there could be something more to walkers because there very well could be. You can’t say there isn’t, so there also isn’t any reason to shoot him down since it’s all speculative anyway.
Told AJ to leave/run if Clem got bit. I might be the weird one here, but I really couldn’t care less if I was dead or a walker - I don’t think it matters from the bitten person’s perspective. It matters from the safe person’s perspective, and if AJ doesn’t want to be responsible for pulling the trigger, then I don’t want him to feel compelled to. That’s his decision, not mine - but I’d rather him lean more to the changeable option than the unchangeable one.
Party mix - purple lights, classical music, and ‘See you on the other side’. Named that bomb after Willy - felt a little odd to name it after Mitch when it’s Willy’s effort. He did it for Mitch though, so I understand both those decisions.
Let AJ get the jump on Dorian. I did think they were threatening to take off Louis’ full hand though, which would be the equivalent of a death sentence. Glad it wasn’t that serious, but oof. 
...I did what James wanted. Sorry, James. I do stand by this decision anyway... If Clem had the gun, then I’m not sure what I would have picked.But with AJ behind the trigger - no, he isn’t shooting that gun. He’s like 5, he can’t understand the nuance between that situation and the one with Marlon. It just can’t be instilled into his young brain that the ultimate solution to a problem is to kill someone, especially since in both cases the people are (supposedly) unarmed and begging to be let go.
Episode 4:
Trusted AJ. Every decision I had made in regards to AJ was consistent, and so if he was legitimately listening and going to take the advice I had given him, then I shouldn’t be concerned. Also, retroactively seeing how the scene is different if James is alive - I do think my version of that scene is primed to encourage me to trust AJ. The James scene in the cave feels like you’re being encouraged to distrust AJ’s decision making.
We are building a one story house, it’s painted purple and has a mahogany piano where AJ and Clem take lessons from Louis. God, I loved this dialogue moment. It feels like real conversations you have with people playing the “What if-” game.
Sorry about my previous choices, Tenn... I wasn’t happy about that.
Told AJ to leave me there. I stand even further in that corner now that there’s an axe involved. I’ll admit to crying a little bit here... I can’t help it. If a child starts crying (and I mean emotional crying - not a temper tantrum type of cry) then my empathy kicks into overdrive and I cry with them.
(Though I will point out a plot issue here - AJ has never seem amputation work in my game as a means to stop a person dying from a bite. The only way he could come up with that idea is if Clem told him about Reggie in S2... something that happened 5-6 years previous to that point. I don’t think Clem would actually bring that up since there are more occasions in her past where it hasn’t worked, so I have no idea where AJ got the amputation idea from as a potential solution.)
As for the AJ moment with walker Tenn, I distracted Tenn... no point in wasting a bullet, and I still don’t think it’s necessary to kill ‘known’ walkers as if it somehow frees them.
And of course AJ burps at the table, tells Clem she’s the best, and is determined to get her a new foot. Because no matter what, he’s still a 5 year old. 
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clementineviolet · 5 years
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Here is my liveblogging from season 4, episode 3. Notice how it is all capslock at the end
MAJOR SPOILERS UNDERNEATH. MAJOR. SPOILERS. 
Bro Minnie is SO TALL
MINNIE TAPING UP TENNS BOOTS
Minnie is JEALOUS and ANGRY
Minnie is SO TALL
VIOLET IS DEFENDING US AGAINST MINNIE!!!!! TAKE THAT LOUD CLOUIS STANS!!!
Damn Minnie is on the dark side
Sophie is DEAD “a hero” gurl what
Minnie didn’t rat us out thank god
Vi defended Clem so god is real
MINNIE COME BAAACK
Violet we need to talk about that
AJ did the YOU KNOW I HAD TO DO IT TO EM POSE
Keep forgetting AJ got SHOT
AWWW TENN IS AJ’S FIRST REAL FRIEND I CRY “YOU DONT COUNT YOURE OLD”
JAMES NO BB WHY YOU HURT
AJ if you tell him that i wanna flip him i’ll kill you
I Love You James and I Trust You
I keep calling James “baby” he’s my platonic babe
James really collects walkers like regulars people collect rocks
James I....girl I’m gonna go along with what you say but this is interesting
I don’t wanna see it that way because I fuckin shot Lee so he wouldn’t turn
Yeah James that shit hurted but it’s ok baby
I don’t wanna say that James fucks walkers but (IM JOKING) (but am i really)
AJ shush we’re going along with him
“I’ll ALWAYS PROTECT YOU” BB AJ PLSSS
I love AJ he’s so cute
This is terrifying
Omfg the mask and the breathing i dislike
I love when they do first person camera it’s so much scarier
This is the creepiest shit i’ve seen on TWDG i don’t even know what to say
The music!! beautiful
What in the hell is going on do they LISTEN TO MUSIC THIS IS THE MOST TERRIFYING THING INDONT
WHAT
UHHHH
What’s funny is that this reminds me of the PAX footage where a zombie shoots Clem the middle finger do y’all remember that
I’m really not sure actually that shit was crazy BUT I KILLED LEE I DONT WANNA BELIEVE THAT
AJ stop hitting him with these personal questions
That was a crazy ass scene
James is Definitely one of the most unique characters in TWD franchise
RUBYYYYYY
HOOTENANNY
YOOOO ITS TIME FOR A PARTYYYYYY BRO CAN I DANCE WITH VIOLET PLs
Oh no we’re placing collectibles already not good
AJ this is the creepiest monologue
AJ baby you’re a good person
HEY AJ NO FORESHADOWING CLEM GETTING BIT SHUSH
TICKLES FOR MY BOY
Nevermind he wanna be serious
“IF I GET BIT YOU’LL...”
I’m torn because now it’s like... do i wanna put AJ through that like I did Clem? what if there is a bit of Clem in there? aughhhhh
NO AJ NO WHAT??? IM NOT BITING YOU NO
Fuck
If there’s an ending where AJ and Clem are walkers together... i’m fucking suing 
I don’t know what to do with AJ
VIOLET!!!!!!
YES LETS TALK
VIOLET IS ALWAYS ON OUR SIDE
We can save her don’t worry bout it
Violet ;____;
“I WONT LET HER TAKE YOU OR AJ OR ANYONE ELSE I CARE ABOUT”
Omg Violet talking about how much she cares for Louis i cry
Oh my god finally confirmation that Vi is like 1 cm taller than Clem if she stands up straight
We’ll GET THOSE BOYS
SHE MADE US A BUTTON IM SCREAMING THE HEADCNAONNFJDJSJDNNSBJDJDJSJJSJSJJDJDHJSHD
A STARS BUTTON OH MY GOD THIS IS SO GAY I SCREAM
VIOLET
WE AFE GONNA
WERE GONNA
WERENFNDNJZHDJD
DANCE!!!!!!!!!!! AHSHJSJZJDJDKDKJDKDKD
OH YM GOD
SO MANT HEADCANONS
COMING TRUE
THIS IS TRUE WLW CULTURE
TAKE HER HAND BITCH
OH MY FOD
OH MY GODJDJJDJSJDKDKDJDJDKJDKSKDKD
THE AMOUNT OF GIFS
I am
paaainf our
this is amazing
i scream
i love
my short girls who dance and exchange gay gifts
THE HUG BRUH I CANT
BRUV
KISS
KISS
KISS
violet doing the gay arm thing
AJ REALLY RUINED THE MOMENT FJDJDKDNDKKD
That scene made 20biteen
When can we tell AJ pls
Y’all know i’m boutta hit AJ with that
This is the cutest shit of all time
HUG HUG HUG BABY
So many hugs I’m dead
Let’s go have this damn hootenanny
VIOLET TEACHING AJ I SCREAM
We doin jazz baby
How has it already been like an hour and a half
Jesus Willg i don’t think we should do that but uhhh just make sure we don’t fuckin die
I swear to God willy if you get us killed
I’m ready for the most turnt party of all
time
ITS OK WILLY YOURE PROBABLY GONNA DIE BUT
YES AJ WITH THEM MOOOVES YES BITCH
ROSIESEEEE
TENN AND WILLY I CRY
Tenn i love you bb
Fuck You Raiders
Yeah we naming it
WILLY JR
That gay smile Clem shared with Vi i can’t
OMG YES LETS LEARN WHY THEHRE IN HERE
The amount of gay smiles
OMG RUBY I LOVE I THOUGHT THAT WAS MARLON
“THAT LITTLE MORHERFUCKER”
Of course that’s why Willy was sent here this little meme boy
I HAVW TO GIF THAT
No AJ no
TENN REALLY TOLD HIM FJDJSKJD
EVERHONES FACES I SCREAM
This turned emo can we go back to having fun and listening to country
34 DEAD KIDS JESUS
Louis i’m so sorry
No we gotta hear Violet
Only if you wanna love
Her dad was a drunk and her mom
worked 3 jobs, grandma shut down after grandpa died, this is emo, oh fuck this is turning dark, oh no violet that sucks so
much
Violet you were TRAUMATIZED
OH FUCK
11 YEARS OLD
I’m so sorry Violet i can’t
Do you wanna hear some of my baggage
That was such an amazing scene jesus, props to Gideon
OMG VIOLET HAS A PRETTY VOICE I SCREAAAAAAM
GAY SMILE
WOW DAMN THAT VOICE VIOLET!!!! GIRL OF MANY TALENTS
minnie and vi singing together that’s it
When. will we tell the group we together
AJ LETS CUDDLE BABY
tenn and willy i cry
thank you so much for that violet i’m
crying so beautiful
jesus we’re so damn emo
DREAM FUCK NOT READY
IM
NOT
EMKTIONALLY
OREPARED
oh my god the graphics look
amazing i’m
shook
she ALWAYS PICKS THE TRAIN
LEE BE MY MUFASA
“YOU KNOW I WAS MAKING IT ALL UP AS I WENT ALONG RIGHT” TRU THATS HOW I PLAYED HIM
Lee can you give me girl advice
YAAAAS LETS SAVE LOUIS
THE RANCH
A GIRL WHO LOVES YOU
GAY!!!! RIGHTS!!!!!
AJ is a small bb boy he loves to shoot ppl
Lee would be so fucking proud
HUG HUG HUG HUG HUG
OK YOU DIDNT HAVE TO DO THAT CLEM THRNJGINTO HER S4 SELF TO ME BRCH BYE
SHES SO MUCH TALLER NOW JESUS WOW SHE WENT FROM HALFWAY UP HIS CHEST TO HIS SHOULDER
Scissors be hard Lee
Bye Lee immcrying
HEY JAMES!!!!
JAMES IS SO SHY
TENN SHUT UP I CANNOT DO NOT SAY THAT
20!!!GAY!!!TEEN!!!
Oh no Vi is gonna tell Tenn about Minnie and Sophie huh
I’m worried about AJ too fuck
Tenn bb i’m so sorry
Of course I’ll tell her Tenn
Violet don’t save me I’ll be fine probably
hopefully
KISS
GAY LOOK OF LOVE
“GO LOOK IN ANOTHER DIRECTION” KDKDJDJJDKDKD AJ PLEASE IM TRYNA HAVE A MOMENT
This is not gonna go well. This episode has been too good
Oh no Clem has a bow not gonna be good for me later on
This is very creative gameplay
I’m failing so hard
OH GOD LUKE FLASHBACKS
I feel like i’m gonna throw up in so nervous
MINNIES CONCERN FOR TENN I CRY
TENN FORGIVES YOU
ooh girl the emotions
THANK YOU MINNIE
WHERE IS LOUIS
OH NO LOUIS WHAT HAPPENED
I’m sorry Louis GODDAMMIT
MINNIE FOR FUCKS SAKE
Oh for fucks sake
HUG!!!! IM SO SORRY LOUIS
Jesus christ man
THEY FUCKING CUT OUT HIS TONGUE??? WHAT THE FUCK
WHt THE
FUCK
WHY
MO
NOOOOOOOOOOO
this is the worst possible thing we’ll help you louis it’s ok
let the others GO GODSAMMIT YOU EVIL FUCKING BITCH
Larry was an abusive fucking asshole Lilly
Lilly what are you gonna fucking do is she gonna make me choose who to hurt or kill what the fuck what the fuck
Oh god is this about Sophie and Minnie what the fuck
This is amazing acting by Lilly’s VA
Sounds like slavery but ok
Oh my god MINNIE KILLED SOPHIE WHAT THE FUCK
I KNEW IT FUCK FUCK FUCK
WHAT IN THE FUUUUUUCK
VIOLET SHHHHHH
NO NO NO NO NO NO
DONT YOU FUCKING TOUCH HER
OH MY GOD
AJ IM SORRY BUT HOLY SHIT
A WHOLE ASS EAR
YOURE RIGHT AJ!!!! WE’RE GONNA KILL HER
OK AJ WAIT HOLD ON IM ANGRH BUT I REALIZS FHIS IS TOO MUCH ANGER AND HLOODLUST
LEAVE HIM THE FUCK ALONE
NO NO NO NO
WHERE ARE YOU TAKING HIM
AT LEAST VIOLET HAS A HAND
MINNIE YOU FUCKING BITCH
MINNIE PLEASE IM TRYING TO REDEEM YOU SORRY GIRL
TOO CLOSS TO MY THROAT THANK YOU
OH FUCK VIOLET THANKS FOR THE SAVE WE ARE FONNA NEED SO MUCH THERAPY
RIP MINERVA???
VIOLET WHAT NO COME WITH ME
BYE AASIM THANK YOU SIR
If Violet gets caught in the explosion i am ducking suing for emotional and punitive damages
NO NO NO TENN NO
JAMES FUUUUUUCK NO
SAVE JAMES SAVE JAMES
“YOU DONT FUCKINF SCARE ME” YES JAMES
YES JAMES!! HIT HER WITH THAT CARLEY WISDOM
TENN OH FUCK
FUUUUUCK
SHOOT HER TENN
FUUUUCK
YES AJ BITE THAG BITCH
AJ GO FOR THE CHESTTTTTT
OH SHIT AJ
LILLY DONT YOU DARE MANIPULATE MY BOY
ohhhhh fuck this is a DIFFICULT DECISION
THIS IS TOO MUCH
BYE LILLY SHOOT AJ
THE BOMB
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sieben9 · 6 years
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“only you”/“an untold story” impressions
{Quick request to anyone reading: I’m watching OUaT for the first time, and I want to avoid spoilers. So, if you want to discuss something spoilery, I’d be grateful if you could start a new post for that. Thank you!}
Yes, both in one post. Mostly because I watched them in one go. And because they’re really just one long story, anyways.
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Before I get into anything else: NO MORE UNDERWORLD LIGHTING! I’d almost forgotten how much that stupid red filter bothered me, until I didn’t have to stare at it while going through my screenshots. Dobby is freeeee~
Anyways, to my intense surprise, especially after the mess that was “Last Rites”, I really liked this finale! Not as a season-finale, because it wasn’t, but it was a very solid, fun two-parter that feels like it should have aired halfway through the hiatus between seasons. (I have Opinions™ on the “season finale followed by a mostly-unrelated epilogue/setup for the next season” format, and not one of them is positive.) The setup for the next season did get me cautiously excited, though. Not quite the “holy crap, I have to watch that!” of the s4 finale, but still good.
Just for clarity’s sake: I will be referring to this two-parter as one episode, just for ease of conversation. I have not slept this weekend, and I refuse to juggle grammar.
OK, just so I have it out of my system:
Gay roadtrip!
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“i know we spent the last ten episodes getting my boyfriend back from the dead, but there isn’t room for four in the bug, so bye!” — emma swan, apparently
My joyful little shipper heart aside, the Emma/Regina bits in this episode were just fantastic. From their little heart-to-heart about Regina missing Robin (and Emma actually properly empathising this time) to the oddly even more personal topic of Regina’s constant battle with her “evil” side, it was all that I might have wanted and more.
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The scene also left me with a weird feeling, because on the one hand, sure, it’s hard to constantly have to censor a part of yourself in order to be accepted in the company of the people you love (and who love you), but on the other hand… if that part of yourself has “kill it with fire” as the first response to any and all annoyances, maybe, just maybe, that’s something that you should censor. That said, Regina, you should definitely make an appointment with Archie. That sounds like his cup of preferred beverage.
And now to maybe my least favourite part of the episode, so we get it over with… the actual “main” plot. Or the excuse plot, as I will call it, because, really, the whole “Henry destroys magic” thing never really felt like a credible threat. It was more something to get everyone into motion so they could do the actually interesting stuff.
Don’t get me wrong, Henry snapping after losing yet another person—even by proxy through his mother—is perfectly understandable and realistic. That he’d turn his anger on magic as a whole isn’t exactly out of left field, either. He’s done this before, after all. At least this time, he didn’t try to blow up the magic well. I like that well, recent drama notwithstanding.
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instead, we get the reverse-cornucopia of magic, apparently
But the plotline itself seemed far too rushed and low-energy to really grab my attention. And the resolution was… ::sigh:: there’s a dilemma for me, here, because I unabashedly love cheesy “The Power Is In You” moments, and the scene at the well did hit that button. It just felt unearned, which is why I couldn’t really enjoy it. (Also, I don’t know what New Yorkers are like, but I know how people from around here would have reacted to a performance act like that. Ah, well. Never Mind All That.)
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the real magic was convincing so many people to throw away their spare change
I don’t even know what to say about the Dragon cameo. Nice to see he’s not dead, after all, but everything else in that scene... Nick, if you’d be so kind?
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OK, that’s over with. Luke-warm excuse plot with some nice elements to it. I’m not sure if Violet needed to be in this, but I guess Henry needed someone to talk to.
Just as a pick-me-up, I want to give a shoutout to one of the best-executed bits of comedy on this show so far:
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“Guy on the third floor is involved in some kind of satanistic ritual and dumped his food on the floor. Pretty polite and tips well, though. 8/10”
Just… very good performance and comedic timing on both parts. I liked it.
Aaaaand over to the “they got sucked through a portal. Again.” part of the episode.
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ah, zeppelins; the easiest shorthand for “alternate universe” there ever was
I do kind of like the sound of the Land of Untold Stories and I really, really hope this gets a little more fleshed out in the coming season. How do people end up there when they’re not sucked through Yet Another Portal Accident? Is this what happens to all stories that haven’t been written down by an Author, yet? Is Harry Potter in there somewhere?
So many questions, so little screentime… I’m not sure if I would have liked 8 episodes of stumbling around in this new world, but I would have liked to find out if I did. …listen, it made sense in my head.
This plotline included what is probably my biggest complaint about the writing this episode: Snow selling out Belle. Just… with little to no hesitation. Which is why blaming the writing and not her. If this was supposed to be some kind of big, dramatic moral dilemma, I expect we’d have seen at least some semblance of guilt on her part. Instead, she just told this clearly violent individual about the defenceless, sleeping-cursed pregnant woman within nanoseconds of him threatening Hook. I know Snow’s characterisation has been a bit inconsistent recently, but come on. This isn’t her, and I am disappointed that the show even tried to sell this to me.
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And I think I would have believed the version where Snow just blurts out the information about Belle and later feels awful, because holy crap, how could she? (There’s… some precedent for poor judgment on Snow’s part when it comes to sharing information, after all.) But this wasn’t even a Thing for her. I just… ::frustrated noises:: why, show?
So, yeah, the Bad Guy kidnaps Belle. Well done, there. By the way, wasn’t it incredibly difficult at some point to make portals to the Land Without Magic? I get why portalling to Storybrooke would be easier—it’s got magic, after all. But hotel room 318, New York? I guess you could argue that the crystal brought the magic along, but still.
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i giggled at this bit, i’m afraid. fellow cat owners will understand.
So, I’m not sure what the “intended” reading here is, but I find it interesting that Rumple seems to understand himself so much less than Hyde apparently does (prediction: they totally know each other; mostly because Rumple knows everyone—guy gets around…) So he went to protect the magic crystal, because what else would the thundering teleport-vortex of doom have come to steal? As has been noted before, Rumple doesn’t really go after people through their loved ones, with one very recent exception, and he had to ask his dad for help to come up with that one. The idea that someone would kidnap Belle to get whatever the hell they want from him, doesn’t seem to occur, even though it has happened multiple times, already. Just… maybe you should have kept that box in your coat pocket, my friend.
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Yeah… this is sure going to be fun, I can already tell. What does Hyde want with Storybrooke, anyway? It’s been established that it has one of the least-fun-to-rule populations, and everyone and their dog has magic. Seems like a bad pick, overall.
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You do you, though.
And from Jekyll and Hyde, we finally come to this…
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that still looks so very unpleasant.
I’m… ambivalent about the personality split, and I really want to wait and see how it turns out. Clearly, this is a good way to have the Evil Queen around again without also having to sacrifice Regina’s redemption arc, which I’m grateful for, believe me. It’s bad enough to have one of my faves on a redemption-yoyo—no need to add a second one.
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is it bad that i missed her?
OK, look I’ve seen this Star Trek episode. Ten bucks that it turns out the Evil Queen isn’t “just” Regina’s evil side, she also got many of her more forceful, but overall positive character traits, and both are less without the other, leading to them re-fusing or something. (Yes, wrong fandom. So sue me.)
…obviously, I’m willing to be surprised, but I like this version a lot more than the idea that you can just siphon out the “evil” parts of yourself. (Even Hyde wasn’t really Jekyll’s “evil” side—just the collection of his socially unacceptable traits made flesh. I only read an abridged version of that book, and that a while ago, but Jekyll still seemed like a bit of an ass to me.)
While we’re here: shoutout to Snow and her flask of cocoa-fortifier. That got a surprised (and amused) laugh out of me.
Also, do we want to talk about whether or not it’s healthy to be so at odds with a part of yourself that you think killing it is the best way to deal with it or…? ‘cause, honestly, I would like to talk about that. Seems like Regina is a lot less OK than she’d like others and herself to think…
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yeah, that’s not a “finally i’m free!” face
So, cautiously optimistic about s6 so far. The villains definitely seem interesting, and this episode was a good reminder of what I liked about the character dynamic in the first place.
An addendum about 5B:
Goddamn, but this season dragged. There seems to be simultaneously too much plot for too little time and not enough plot to fill ten episodes. This is probably based in my personal biases for and against certain characters (and the fact that I was insanely busy and couldn’t watch the season all in one go), but… yeah, I’m kind of relieved it’s over, to be honest.
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Klayley - Things you said when u were drunk Xx.
self portrait as damaged goods;
a/n: takes place after s4, au future fic told in my usual unstructured way. and takes some of the spoilers of s5 into consideration. hope you enjoy.
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She searches for home everywhere she goes.
In the coldness of Parisian winters, with her glass of red wine, a warm bath bubbling in the background, a man with Elijah’s eyes and Klaus’ smirk. She fails to recognize it. Lips thin, pale pink, and annoyingly brilliant in the way they quirk up halfway, half-smiling, half-mocking―
Half-amused.
“Who’s Klaus?” He asks one afternoon, as he points to her side of the table. “Your phone’s been ringing, he’s pretty persistent with trying to get a hold of you,” the man chimes in, looking at her with doubt and curiosity. (She’s unattainable though, she’s always been).
She chugs down her beer before answering. “He’s persistent alright,” she says. “What is it?” Hayley asks, with a small fire lighting up inside of her. With just another heartbeat.
“You answered me,” Klaus murmurs softly. “And only after sixty-two calls,” he adds on and she can almost hear his smirk on the other line.
She feels every fiber in her being turn as still as a statue. A body burning, torch-lighting her heart. “I thought after the sixty-first call that you’d get the idea,” she tells him instead. “That I don’t wanna talk to you,” she mumbles.
He laughs, like the whole world could crumble, and he wouldn’t blink. “What a cruel thing to say to a man,” Klaus whispers. “On his birthday,” he adds on.
“You’re old enough,” she sings,with a distant tone. “Haven’t you celebrated enough birthdays?” the she-wolf asks.
The shattering coldness she carries sounds like blood, like love long lost and forgotten. Like the day he awoke and found that this beast was fully inside the both of them and had ruined them.
Had rendered them unrecognizable to each other. He might as well say it like it is. A wolf will always be a wolf. Nothing more.
“I haven’t celebrated a single one with you,” he offers.
“Sure you have,” she responds. “Those few years, where you took Hope and I skiing, when we all took a road trip to British Columbia, when you took us to the Eiffel Tower―”
“You remember,” he interrupts, voice half-wolfish, half-astonished.
“Yeah,” she nods, slowly. 
And this is how their conversations always go, it’s always fleeting, like there’s something he’s waiting to say, but never gets around to it. They talk about Hope, about their lives, everything except―
“Goodbye Klaus,” she quickly says, before hanging up.
(Maybe love is a violence, and she simply couldn’t undo it).
― 
Some nights, he just calls and says that it’s over. He’s done the whole love thing with Caroline, with Camille…that’s what he says. That’s how he got through it. There was a tunnel, a night, pain and love. It ended. Even if the sun never comes up again, even if he sleeps alone in the middle of the bed, even if he makes coffee for one.
It ended, and he did not perish.
That’s gotta mean something.
“I meant,” he takes a deep breath, pauses in between because good god, what is he doing? “I wanted to celebrate my birthday with just you, no one else,” Klaus specifies.
“Are you drunk?” she giggles, like a forest, a night of dark trees.
“Perhaps,” he responds. “Are you?” Klaus questions, cocking his head to one side, fingers twirling with the phone cord.
“Maybe I am,” she shrugs, out-monstering the monster. “Maybe I’m considering your offer,” and her voice sounds a little too much for him to handle.
A little too sad, a little too overbearing. 
She sighs on the other line.
She’s never enough for anyone.
― 
Her hundredth birthday is spent near a bonfire close to a fallen tree. She makes room for her hunger, for the leopards that carry that rich blood Rebekah had told her glorious stories about. For the tigers Kol says that love a good chase.
For her to be a wolf, to revel in something that will be worthy of the rising moon, that pale light.
(It’s the only place where she doesn’t see a pair of blue eyes tracking her every move). 
You know, he says over the phone. You left your heart in New Orleans, Klaus simply announces, as if he knew her mouth was burning. Like it was animal. like it was on the border of sainthood.
She falls against her bedroom wall, as if she had seen a runaway ghost train. As if her reflection was speaking back to her in shattered tongues.
“What are you talking about?” Hayley questions.
“My brother,” his mouth would destroy her with his next words. Actually, they probably destroyed her before that, the moment she mistook them for something soft. For something that is hers. “He’s there, he’s still there…at that very same spot you left him,” he reminds her.
And she feels the sea inside her as she thinks of Elijah. As she thinks of how much happier he was as the simple pianist. How much happier he was without her.
It’s all too big, between her and Klaus, and too never-ending to speak.
“I left him,” she firmly says. “Remember that,” she orders, hanging up one last time.
(He’s two-thousand and fifty-two years old on the day that she appears on his doorstep). 
And they drowned in violets, in art, earth…a body under another body that owed him nothing and everything and itself as it is. He moves through her, inside, tastes her bones of silver and crown. Not a thing to be owned. But a thing to be worshiped.
That’s how they make love, under the stars, under badlands, red dust. War-torn. Like wolves do.
After wards, he’s wearing a smile like a pocket knife, small and ready for the kill. 
Klaus watches her as if he’s singing a song for the lonely. She turns to her side, ties her hair up, tells him that he fucks her so good and so brilliant. Makes her forget her own name, feels as though his touch haunts the margins of her memories―
“What happened to your boyfriend?” he wonders, remember hearing a voice on the other line, almost every time he called. 
She shakes her head. “He wasn’t my boyfriend,” Hayley specifies. “He wasn’t my anything really,” the she-wolf realizes. And it takes her years to figure out that that’s how she felt about almost every man, except for Klaus.
She could never put a name to what she had with Jackson, with Elijah…but Klaus was her family. More than that, he was her kin. He carried her.
“You haven’t changed, have you?” he smirks, snuggling up beside her.
“Neither have you,” she teases, placing a soft kiss on his nose. 
He feels everything when she’s close to him, as if his life is a city of ruins, and she is at the center of it. 
 “Happy birthday, Klaus,” Hayley whispers into his ears.
“Thank you,” he nods, reaching over to grab a bottle of wine and two glasses lying lazily on his bedside table. “Here’s to a thousand more,” he sings, pouring wine into them.
She raises her glass, smiles politely. “Cheers,” and clink.
(She’s three thousand years old one the night of their wedding).
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hey there, i'm writing an essay about how destiel is real for a friend of mine and I was wondering what you think the most important pieces of meta that i should put in? can you recommend anything?
Hi - wow, that’s some dedication. All I did for my friends was send them some links - and, on one memorable occasion, I spent one entire 30 minutes conversation occasionally glancing at my (female&blinded by heteronormativity) friend’s lips instead of looking at her eyes, and by the end of it she was uncomfortable af and half convinced I was into her, and that’s when I presented her with a list of gifsets like -
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- and basically dropped my mic and sashayed out.
(Man, I wish my hair was long enough to be flicked back.)
She changed her mind after that, by the way. And it’s really weird how most behaviours and gestures are used on screen precisely because we understand them as human things we all do on a deep level, and yet we’re suddenly unable to figure out what they mean if they’re not about a man and a woman. Uh.
(That applies to me as well, by the way. We see what we know about, not what is actually there, and that’s just inevitable - but can be unlearned, with some patience and many, many mistakes.)
Anyway, here are a bunch of things - I hope they’re useful.
Because God commanded it, by @k-vichan​ (written during S4, sometimes tagged as ‘shipper zero’)
Queerness, Tropes and Proof of Love: Why Destiel is Canon, by @fozmeadows​
Parallels between Dean and Cain, a video by @codra-foymal​ (aka why S10 makes no sense without Destiel)
I don’t do the whole love and…love: A look into Dean and Cas’ sexualities and how they define love, by @angelswatchingover​
101 reasons to love Dean and Castiel, a video by @ltnivans​ which is exactly what it says on the tin and is gorgeous
Literally 10 minutes of Basically Every Time DEAN and CAS Did The Thing With The Eyes, a video by the very patient @bakasara​, and yeah  
The Destiel Masterpost by @spnthinks​ - an early collection of metas and fics
Also, the entire S8, which was basically a demented Jane Eyre AU, and the entire S11, because, again, that Amara thing didn’t make sense without Destiel subtext, and finally @deanswingsbothways’ drunken rant (spoiler: contains the line “Destiel is not a story we are telling each other. Destiel is a story we are being told.” and bless).
You should also consider pimping your essay a bit, because there are a lot of posts and gifsets about how Destiel is regularly paralleled with canon couples on Supernatural, or follows the same rules as romantic relationships in movies. Here’s a bunch of them: Destiel and Sam/Jess, Destiel vs Dean/Anna, Destiel vs Sam/Amelia, Destiel vs David/Violet, Destiel and Spuffy, Destiel and Clexa, Destiel and Phoebe/Cole, Destiel vs Charlie/Gilda, Destiel vs every other couple on Supernatural, Destiel and Lucifer having fun, Destiel and romantic movies, Destiel and the Doctor, Destiel and Belle/Rumplestiltskin, Destiel and Tangled, Destiel and Saileen, and, of course, the beautiful and despairing trainwreck that was Repo Man.
And finally, there was that one time I went crazy and spent an entire weekend mapping every single love trope they’ve ever used around those two idiots in love, because I was just that fed up and the thing’s there, okay, and the more they say it’s not the more layers of tropes and mirrors and longing glances and narrative parallels they keep slathering on top of this thing, so, whatever and who even knows. At this point, you’re free to say it’ll never go canon because they’re homophobic or assume their audience is homophobic, and you’re free to say it’ll never go canon because of internal narrative reasons (God knows both Dean and Cas are never going to believe they’re actually good enough for each other), but to say there’s nothing there at all - that’s beyond whatever.
Anyway, my post is here, and these were the final conclusions:
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As you may have guessed, this is something I’m sort of interested in - I came for the monsters and started to reblog stuff out of spite when I realized I was being treated like a crazy fangirl who sees love everywhere because women (right). If you’re looking for more sugary goodness, I tag stuff as destiel, spn meta (my own opinions), awesome meta (other people’s opinions), love tropes and parallels, and you can also have a look at some excellent meta writers who have eyes and therefore see Destiel and sometimes discuss it - people like @elizabethrobertajones​, @grey2510​, @tinkdw​, @bluestar86​, @mittensmorgul​, @floralmotif​, @k-vichan, @treefrogie84, @thevioletcaptain or @postmodernmulticoloredcloak (and I know I’m forgetting someone - that’s what sleeping four hours does to you, sorry). So, again - I know this post is a bit ‘join our cult’ (which is what you asked for, but still), but really - what I like about this fandom is that we can talk about stuff and we can disagree about stuff and still be friends, but this new idea currently spreading in the real world like wildfire - that not only you can have your own opinions (totally legit), but you can also have your own facts - nope. I hope your friend reads your essay (you’re welcome to share it, by the way) and sees that yes, there’s objectively something going on. If they still don’t, the final test is, “What if Cas were a woman? Would you see it then?” 
(And we all know the answer to that question, don’t we?)
Seriously, good luck.
EDIT - More great meta
Are Dean and Cas in love? a.k.a. The Great Season 7 Rewatch by @flutiebear (“the most competent, thorough and objective meta about deancas and i think it's an obligatory read” - thanks for the suggestion, @deanirae - this is indeed fantastic meta)
5:04 Future!Dean and Cas are Lovers and the Whole Camp Knows It by @lurea (literally made my head explode)
( @destielisgonnabecanon - you’re welcome! Go win that bet! 😁)
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