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askhubertvonvestra · 1 year
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Before Hubert can give Lady Edelgard her morning report, there's a distinct girlish giggling from inside her bedroom door. "Heehee~ Oh you are a feisty one! Such a little rascal~" she chirps with a giggle. The distinct meow of a cat responds back as the comforter rustles, plus the scamper of paws to her amusement. "Now now, we can't be too chatty. If Hubert finds out he'll scold me and I won't be able to kiss your little head or feed you fish anymore!" she's got the feline on her bed, having it chase after one of her old purple ribbons as she drags it back and forth, still in her nightshirt. It rolls over, exposing it's soft belly to her which she gleefully scoops up to her bosom to press kisses to furry cheeks. "H-Hhubert!" she looks at him, eyes wide and face going red. Caught red handed, as the cat bats at her bangs making them swish. "...I-I didn't hear you come in, apologies..."
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Your Majesty.
Rather, I imagine you would prefer Lady Edelgard. I see you've made a friend. Of the feline variety, no less. I'm afraid I was unaware that you would have such an esteemed guest in attendance for the morning report. Fortunately, I have quite the experience with contending with rascals.
...Or one's innate desire to feed them fish. Among other such activities. I assure you, Edelgard, it is no business of mine if you have a pet. Unless you require supplies. Other than your ribbon, of course.
Perhaps a hair tie to spare your bangs. A suitably regal bed for Her Majesty's cat. I am the Minister to the Imperial Household, after all. Such services would extend to even the four-legged members of the Hresvelg family.
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ask-jeritza · 2 years
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Aww that’s so sweet of Hubert to do that for you Jeritza. What do you think Edelgard?
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I'll refrain from telling him that you find him sweet, because I doubt he'll appreciate it.
I do not speak with her often. She aided me in my relocation to House Hrym after the incident, and she helped me to conceal my identity. Without her, I would have starved on the streets long ago. I am grateful to her. I am in her service, and I am willing to walk along the path she is carving. I do not make my political beliefs public, and I prefer to maintain an air of indifference if anyone were to ask, but Fodlan will truly be a better place without the oppression of the Church of Seiros.
That being said, I would not particularly call her my friend. I am aware that it is my physical strength and my reputation she values, not my company or my existence outside of the Death Knight. And I am completely fine with that. I hold no objections to our arrangement. She will make a fine leader.
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newttxt · 1 year
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remedial gender studies
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themisteriousentity · 8 months
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You know, people forget that Soldier, Poet, King is a Christian song depicting different aspects of Jesus, but it sure is interesting to see that the fandom almost universally makes Dimitri the Soldier, Claude the Poet, and Edelgard the King
However, I argue a different order
*le gaspu*
Dimitri is still the soldier, but I think Claude and Edelgard should switch. I think Edelgard is the Poet and Claude is the King
Hear me out
Dimitri, we all know why he's the Soldier. I don't think we need to explain that. I don't need to get into the bible analysis, man LITERALLY tears cities down, oh lei oh lai oh lord
Edelgard is a very well spoken person. When she's actually given room to voice her ideas, despite being wrong because she's got just the tip of the iceberg of the true history, she can managed to convince almost anyone. In both games, she manages to convince most of her empire, which is FULL of very devout followers of Seiros and Sothis, to attack the Central Church and follow her lead. For a person who doesn't know much better, she's very damn convincing. She just doesn't do it very often, and she's terrible at listening when people try to counter her ideas (her argument with Dimitri and Azure Moon really highlights this when he tries to open a dialogue). But the important thing there is also that this is a role she chooses to take on in both games. If you look at the Poet, this easily relates to the start of Jesus's ministry in the bible, taking down establishments left and right on his word alone. Edelgard convinces her country to follow her on her accusations alone (as she was only 18 when she started the war and even as emperor she had to talk many ministers into following her lead or nothing would've happened without ministers like Count Bergliez and Count Hevring that she convinced), slaying the church with her tongue
Meanwhile, the King easily relates far more to Claude than the Poet. Claude doesn't really spend a lot of time convincing people of his ideals or talking them into anything aside from explaining his ambitions to Byleth and Shez, and depending on your supports in some ways to Leonie and Lorenz. Unlike Edelgard, Claude is in a situation he didn't ask for. He has a war thrust upon him and a conflict with a massive religious body that breeds prejudice to contend with. As an outsider who is deeply untrusted, he has to fight tooth and nail just to keep the Alliance whole. All the meanwhile he's constantly having insults thrust upon him by his own people, and in certain routes he's completely abandoned by one of the largest political players in his nation. The crown of thorns was not a burden Jesus chose to accept, like the burden of war Edelgard created and thrust upon the world, but was something thrusted upon him that he then had to deal with. It's easy to see that Claude never wanted to contend with this war and only stays because he HAS to, for the sake of both Almyra and Fódlan, despite knowing all he's doing is keeping things stable while not fixing the situation. But in the end he's still prepared to sacrifice everything to try and make the world better. In Houses, he even plans for his own death to protect the people of the Alliance, the people who fought against him and rejected him the most. In Hopes, he settles on working with people he fundamentally disagrees with and dislikes for the sake of protecting Fódlan. With a character progression like that, it just feels like the ruler who his brow laid in thorn, anointed in oil, that tracks to Claude much better than Edelgard
But hey, that's just my opinion. Wow, who knew being dragged to church kicking and screaming against my will would come in handy for a strategy JRPG
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deathbirby · 1 month
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Rhea haters: Rhea making Crests be seen as gifts from the goddess is why they're sought after and why so much suffering exists in Fodlan! She's the cause for Fodlan being terrible and that's why Edelgard should kill her!
The Seiros tenets: "Don't hoard the gifts from the Goddess and/or use them to oppress anyone because that's why the goddess left humanity"
Edelgard: *"creates" gifts of the Goddess (Aymr) in order to oppress people*
Welp.
Don't forget!
Humanity stole the crests in the first place.
Nobility existed before crests
Rhea had to do something to end a century long war
It was a solution to a long term conflict that caused unforseen consequences in the future. Rhea could not have seen that coming at the time.
But yeah she's evil and caused the OPPRESSION in Fodlan because she wants to RULE humanity! Ignore the fact that the devs explicitly deny that being the case. And ignore how Edelgard allows the use of crests to create demonic beasts.
Welp!
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fieldsofvarley · 10 months
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i just think. this moment. as edelclaude. her silver hair. his love of stars. please. someone walk with me here
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mittelfrank-divas · 2 years
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If Edelgard killed herself it wouldn't have done anything but frustrated them and delayed their plans. It also wouldn't have stopped the nobles and the church, but the people who say things like that don't believe in those being wrong, so.
Imagine you're somewhere between 12 and 17 years old. Your memories are fractured and fragmented and your hair is white because you've undergone life-changing medical torture that left all of your siblings dead. You have lived months, years, you don't know how long, in a dungeon. Your captors, one of whom wears the face of the man who raised you, who still insists on you calling him uncle, tells you that he will free you if you do as he says.
Choose your path:
--> You tell him no. So he takes control of your mind, removes your free will, and forces you to become his puppet. He can commit any atrocity he wishes using you, and you will not even be aware of it.
--> You tell him yes. Then you wait until you are alone and you sacrifice yourself so that he can never use you. But your body becomes his puppet anyway, resurrected to fight for him whenever he pleases just as Nemesis was. The research that was perfected on you and your siblings gets replicated again and again on others.
--> You tell him yes. You play along. You do everything you need to do to maintain his confidence that you are obedient, even if it means you must do unsavory things and make horrible sacrifices. And in private, with your best friend, you make a laundry list of goals. Things you can do with your newfound power and knowledge. Ways that you can fix the conditions that led to what happened to you. Ways that you can make what happened to you matter. You string along your false uncle exactly as long as you need to before turning your strength against him. Maybe you will die in the process, but at least you will die with your mind still yours, and maybe you will have made a difference before you died.
What is the morally pure option here? Which of these would make Edelgard a fundamentally good person? What should she do to minimize harm? Certainly, if Edelgard wanted to keep her own hands clean, then the first two options are preferable. Nobody can blame her for the things her body does without her knowledge or consent. She can die powerless, but also blameless.
But there is no timeline in which Edelgard chooses either of those options. Edelgard chooses to dirty her own hands. She chooses to maintain control of her fate as much as possible. She chooses to try to change things despite the cost.
I don't think people who say that Edelgard should never have worked with the Slithers have actually thought about what that would mean. But Hopes has confirmed what we already suspected: that Edelgard never truly had the option to say no to Thales unless she had the power to back it up, and there are so many timelines in which she has no power at all against him.
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On the topic of Rhea, Byleth, Crimson Flower and abuse
I see a lot of people saying Crimson Flower is a bad route for Byleth, and I'm always a little confused about it, so I thought I'd share my thoughts on the matter. This post isn't at all to invalidate their opinions or how they view the game- this is just offering my perspective on things. Please forgive any possible mistakes, as English isn't my first language. Also, I will be criticizing Rhea's treatment of Byleth, so I'll tag this appropriately of course, but I'm still warning any of her fans beforehand in case you just wanna skip. ^^
For a little bit of context, when i first played the game, Rhea creeped me out THE MOMENT she looked at Byleth from the balcony in the cutscene when they arrive at Garreg Mach monastery. So, I was already wary of her-I dunno, I just had a feeling she wasn't as honest as she was pretending to be.
And I mean, this isn't completely wrong. She desperately wants to be able to relax and be truthful, sure, but she also has a great deal of responsibility in putting in place and maintaining a really unfair theocracy based entirely on lies, because she wants to protect her family, the last of her kind. While her behavior is, of course, understandable given the horrible trauma she went through, it still doesn't sit right with me, but that's not really my point here. The thing is, she has problems with not being in control at all times because of her story. Her despair even pushes her to try and bring back her dead mother by crafting her a vessel- something she fails at several times, including Sitri.
And, then, there's Byleth. Byleth, who disappears for twenty long years, along with all her hopes, and when they reappear Rhea immediately sees the possibility for her to achieve her goal is not totally lost. She was desperate and now that she's found them, she wants to keep them.
That's why she places so much trust in Byleth from the start, but also why she grows cold every time they step out of line- like when they refuse to give her Miklan's spear. She allows them to live their life, but only so long as they do not disappoint her in any way or deviate from her ideas- because for the longest time, she struggles to see them as their own person and puts unreasonable expectations on them.
And that, sadly, is when that becomes psychological abuse on her part. This is really obvious to me when Byleth's hair and eyes turn green after fusing with Sothis, and she sings to them and puts their head in their lap while they're asleep- it just makes me want to run far away in the opposite direction every time, and her giving them the prophet outfit after that makes me so sorry for Byleth because what she's essentially doing here (albeit maybe unvoluntarily) is chipping away at their developing self and bodily autonomy by turning them into literally what she physically wants to see-and that isn't them. She wants them to become what she wants of them.
And then, in the Sacred Mausoleum, Byleth chooses Edelgard. All hell breaks loose because Rhea's hopes are shattered- and she also realizes her affection for Byleth is (partly) unrequited which, to me at least, makes sense- I don't really see how they could care as much for her as they do for their students when they spent every day with them for a year, and their actions seem to be made more out of love for their close ones than anything else. Byleth breaks out of the mold and confronts her directly. They make the clear cut decision to deviate from the path she had laid out for them. From that moment on, Rhea considers that all forms of violence against them is allowed (which, fair, they just declared war on her lol) including taking their heart out by force, which is physical abuse obviously (then again, violence is to be expected in a war but you get the idea). She now hates what she's created and sees it as her duty to destroy it.
Now. Byleth choosing to walk down Edelgard's path does not equate cutting themselves from their divine part, and I think that is a very important point. I see a lot of people make that criticism, especially since Byleth loses Sothis' powers at the end of CF. But to me, it's a totally different phenomena that occurs.
In every route, post-timeskip Byleth embraces their divine side. They use the Creator's sword and they go back in time as they wish to protect and further their and their lords' vision for the future of Fodlan. Heck, their main class is literally "Prophet". But something strange and, I think, beautiful happens in Crimson Flower that always made me feel disappointed in the other routes' plots: Byleth has a chance to stand up to their abuser and cut ties with them explicitely and directly. To fight back against them with all they've got.
Now, don't get me wrong. Rhea apologizing for her wrongdoings and bad treatment of Byleth is good, sure, but it just… doesn't seem like enough to me. Sure, that's a nice thought… but it's not like anything can be done about it now: they're stuck with body modifications and a position as an Archbishop reforming the system she helped put in place that they never really asked for in the first place. But what makes it ok is that they embrace those fully and voluntarily, and that's beautiful on its own- however, that resolution leaves me a bit disappointed and honestly feeling like they let Rhea walk all over them.
The thing is, when you get out of an abusive and toxic relationship, you are left changed from the experience. You lose a lot of things, but you also get some things. It's like you're left with a random object your abuser gave to you once. You can either keep it and give it a new story of its own, or discard it if keeping it just doesn't feel right. But in the end, it is your responsibility, your thing, and you're not a bad person for not using it. The metaphor is broken, I know, but I hope you get my idea. You're not a bad person for moving on for that thing- You don't resent the thing, you can thank it and appreciate it for what it brought you while you used it, you don't hate it, hell you might have even learnt from it.
In the other routes, Byleth chooses to keep everything and use it equally. In Crimson Flower, Byleth "regaining their humanity" doesn't in any way, shape or form mean they reject all that Sothis brought to them or their enlightenement. It's just them choosing that they'd rather not use that from now on, or not engage with it to the same degree. They might go back to it later, might help rebuild the church, I don't know-just not in the same way. On new terms that make them more at ease with who they became following that route.
They're still the same loving and caring person who would do anything for their students. They still go to the ends of the Earth to give someone a random thing they lost. They still spend hundreds of coins on their loved ones' favorite teas. But… they do not have to forgive Rhea. They do not have to accept everything that happened to them because of her actions, even if some of it was good. They've made their peace with it and they've let it go of their own volition.
They do not become a lesser version of themselves because they chose to deal with the abuse they went through in a different way than in the other routes.
And I think a lot of people underestimate how powerful CF!Byleth's narrative can be.
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Three Hopes really did such a fundamental reset on the way that I see Claude, but not in the way that most people mean it. Nothing that Claude himself did really surprised me. To the contrary, it confirmed that the most controversial aspects of my interpretation of him were accurate. What really fucked me up is the existence of Shahid. I had been so sure that that man was an only child. But the minute Shahid showed up and he responded to the whole ordeal Like That I was like oh. Oh no. This man is not an only child. And I don’t think this is his only dead brother either.
Before Three Hopes the fundamentals of my Claude interpretations all came from factual text. But now? I fundamentally can not separate my opinions on Claude von Riegan from the head canon that he had a twin brother who was successfully assassinated. Like the text doesn’t say that. But it feels so so real to me that it does.
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moe-broey · 4 months
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Oh my god I hit tag limit on that one I am so sorry. 🧍
BUT LIKE. HONESTLY. I AM. AUTISTIC ABOUT THE ART PROCESS ITSELF. ABOUT SHAPE LANGUAGE AMD COLOR LANGUAGE AND HOW A DESIGN IS LIKE. A Strong character design with a clear intention behind it should not just Look Cool (though that is an added bonus!!!) it should tell a story in and of itself!!!!!!!! That, even at a glance, you can get a feel for who this character is, what their personality is, what role they play and/or are forced into, AND ALSO!!!
Something I'm esp autistic about tbh as someone who has an interest in fashion/crafting/sewing as well, how the clothes Work With the character. In a few different ways: again, the clothes themselves tell a story! The costuming! But also! How does the character move in them? What does that Say about that character? Where are they from? Not to mention the shape language/colors come back again, now w alllll the fucked up shit you can do with fabric!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fluffy? Not just in the fur sense (eg, a petticoat with bouncy puffy frills)? Could be a really bubbly character!!! Flowy? Graceful? Could be someone who's mature, knowledgeable, wise. A female character who opts to wear shorts instead of a skirt? Could be sporty! Or practical! And also in general Big Clothes/accessories can make a character look imposing.
LIKE...... reading this over it is so basics character design 101 but like. I am ALWAYS frothing at the mouth about it 😅
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askhubertvonvestra · 1 year
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Boops nose, how have you been?
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...I see you missed these antics.
But I have been well. With the support of our allies, progress with the war has been both swift and decisive.
Although I suppose that doesn't quite answer your question. Dorothea and Petra have brought it to my attention that I rarely respond accordingly when questions involve me directly, so. I have been collaborating with Linhardt on his more engaging studies, and Bernadetta has been joining Ferdinand and I for tea as of late. Byleth has gladly roped me into their training sessions with Caspar, claiming that we will be good influences on one another. Begrudgingly, they were not incorrect on that front. Naturally, this has been encouraged by Her Majesty as we both pursue greater independence and free time outside of our duties.
Likewise, it would be excellent news to know that you are doing well. May only the best cross your path.
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ask-jeritza · 2 years
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Oh I saw him walking to her room with the bra in hand. His face was pretty red from embarrassment. Hey are you in need of any new clothing?
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That seems to be a severe lapse in judgement coming from Hubert of all people. There is no way he would hold a garment of Edelgard's so openly, and I think he's probably past the point of embarrassment when it comes to being in her service. I shall have to make sure he's not feverish or something. He never does know when to stop working and take a break.
... A quick change in topic. No, I do not. I could probably do with some new stockings, but nothing too urgent. My current garments are more than sufficient enough.
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writer-of-worlds · 8 months
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dimiclaudeblaigan · 6 months
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soooo is this man implying it's the empire that was the problem with uwu fodlan's border problems?
'cause i mean. that's basically what he just said.
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“It looks as though my path will end here. My teacher... claim your victory. Strike me down. You must! Even now, across this land, people are killing each other. If you do not act now, this conflict will go on forever. Your path... lies across my grave. It is time for you to find the courage to walk it.”
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emblemxeno · 7 months
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(Imagine there's a picture of Lilith here lmao)
>be me
>turn-based strategy game
>introduce character at the start of story
>set her up as someone with a deep and personal connection to the protag
>have her do a bunch of important shit at the start
>write her out of the story as soon as prologue ends
>have scene near the end where she gets killed
>frame it as this massive emotional moment
>it obviously falls flat because the character's been a complete non-entity with next to no screentime for the entire route
>man Edelgard got done dirty by Verdant Wind
>pic unrelated
Yeah... yeah.
Like, I'll defend Lilith in some circumstances but her death really does ring as a "we needed to raise the stakes" type move in both BR and CQ when the other established deaths in those routes are fine enough as is.
And it does make it doubly funny cuz I never realized how Edelgard does kinda get the Lilith treatment in Wind lmaooo
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