#mentions of other characters and ships

[crimson-rain-smoked-flower]

I’m not trying to attack you, but do you know that proshipper means someone who supports and romanticizes pedophilia, incest, and abuse? Your reblog on that post seems to read that you think antis just hate on people for having ships they don’t like. But it’s completely different than that. Just looking on the proshipper side of Tumblr and the internet and you can see people happily shipping children and adults and making nsfw content of such things.

i appreciate that you're not being outright hostile, but i have to say, that on its own put you above basically every anti i've interacted with.

i understand where antis are coming from, i really do. there are a lot of things on the internet that make me deeply uncomfortable, including the minor/adult ships that you mention. i don't want to anything to do with those kinds of ships and i would be happiest if i never saw them again. which is why i'm proship.

nine times out of ten, if i see that kind of ship brought up on my dash, it's because i was following an anti without realizing it, and they brought it up unprompted and untagged, to talk about how bad it is that they exist. they are the ones putting that kind of content in front of my face and making it harder to avoid.

the thing about people who ship those ships is that they're generally very aware that not everyone wants to see that kind of content, and so they tag it. they make sideblogs to talk about it. they don't go out of their way to shove it in people's faces. that means i, and everyone else who doesn't like it, can avoid it.

what antis want is for it to not exist at all. they want the tags to be purged and blocked, and for anyone who uses those tags to have their accounts deleted. and sure, that might get rid of some of it, but do you know what would happen to the rest? it would stop being tagged. people who don't want to see it wouldn't have the tools to avoid it. this isn't just a hypothetical, that's what's happened any time a fan space has tried to do that.

that's not even getting into the rabbit hole of what should be banned and what shouldn't. obviously any content that depicts real children or real life abuse shouldn't exist and shouldn't be allowed to be posted, but basically any platform that people use already enforces those policies, and there's not much of a slippery slope to go down there. if it involves real living breathing people being abused, it's bad. end of discussion.

but the same can't be said for fiction. ask ten antis for a specific list of all the content that should be banned, and you'll get ten different answers. what about kink? what about roleplay? what about horror and murder and anything that involves fictional characters being graphically tortured? what about people using art to process terrible things that have happened to them? what about art that uses dark themes as a horror element? if you just want to ban anything questionable to anyone, that's the line of thinking that gets any mention of lgbt existence banned. and again, this isn't just a hypothetical, this has happened before, and that's generally where it leads.

i know, from personal experience, that antis do, in fact, send harassment to people just for shipping things they don't like. i've gotten accused of absolutely vile shit for shipping two fictional characters who were both consenting adults. i've seen ship wars turn into moral battlegrounds, over ships that an average person wouldn't bat an eye at.

the thing about "romanticization" is a whole other can of worms. the anti logic goes like this: if someone sees something (even if it's very obviously fictional) in a positive light enough times, they will start thinking it's okay in real life, and go on to hurt real people. the problem with that is that it's just. blatantly untrue.

if it were true every horror movie fan would be a serial killer, every person that studies dark media would be an unhinged psychopath, and everyone who is into ddlg would be a pedophile. but they're not. they just aren't. people have directed movies just as fucked up as the darkest shit on ao3, and are still capable of being normal human beings who know right from wrong in real life.

even if someone is that impressionable, scrubbing away the existence of every piece of questionable content isn't going to solve their problem, because they're still going to be vulnerable to con men, scams, and cultists. the only thing that would actually materially help someone like that is developing their own morals and critical thinking.

children are also more impressionable, and there's a lot of content that's not suitable for them, but that doesn't mean that content shouldn't exist. it just means that they should stick to spaces designed for them (which most social media sites, tumblr included, are not) or, if they're old enough to be responsible for their experience online, they, or a trusted adult in their lives, should block and filter out things that they aren't comfortable with.

which is what everyone on the internet should be doing. it's what i do, and it's made the internet a much more pleasant place to be. and it's why i sometimes worry for antis mental health, especially teenagers, because they're being told it's right and moral to seek out content that makes them uncomfortable and to engage with the people making it. and that's just. really bad. it's not good for the creators that they're harassing obviously, but it's also really bad for them! it's not healthy to seek out things that make you feel bad, and it's a terrible internet safety lesson to teach minors that it's okay for them to seek out and engage with people making adult content.

individual harassment and crusading is never going to succeed at removing dark content from the internet. it just isn't. at best you might get a small percentage of people who create that content to stop sharing it, at worst you're just going to make people stop tagging it, and either way, you're exposing yourself to things that make you feel bad, when you don't have to.

if you want to materially change the type of content you see, you can. the block button is your friend, use it liberally. same with content filtering and tag blocking.

#oops this got really long #cd.ask #proship #disk horse #tw pedophila mention #uhhh what to tag #tw shipping discourse #this doesn't even get into the antis that i've seen proudly professing that they care more about fictional characters than real people #because i don't know how to explain to someone that real humans matter more than cartoon characters #or how to avoid content on platforms other than tumblr bc frankly thats a lot of the reason i don't use them #i don't trust an algorithm #also im turning anon off after posting this so if you want to send me hate you cant be a coward about it #also be prepared to get blocked and ignored #the only reason i answered this person is bc they weren't being hostile

[selfship-wormie]

your F/O would beat the shit out of your abuser, they would absolutely torment your abuser because no one hurts you and gets away with it , in your F/Os eyes your abuser deserves no peace

#f/o #fictional other #self ship #self shipping #f/o stuff #f/o x s/i #romantic f/o #f/o community #villain f/o #comfort characters #self shipping community #self ship positivity #self shipper #tw: abuse mention #making this one personal because of a PTSD episode

[jamisonwritestf2trash]

#tf2 #team fortress 2 #tf2 medic #tf2 scout #tf2 spy #tf2 demoman #tf2 sniper #tf2 heavy #tf2 engineer #tf2 soldier #tf2 pyro #comfort character #self ship #f/o x s/i #f/o imagines #imagine your fictional other #comfort character imagines #f/o prompts #fictional other #f/o community #f/o positivity #went wild with the tags at the request of a friend <3 #kys mention #i made this and im very proud of it by the way

[theshadowrealmitself]

Today’s sad thoughts: A Peter Parker/Spiderman variation who’s run into a ton of alternate universe versions of themselves when they were young and barely starting out as Spidey

And because even tho they’re alt dimensions/universes and stuff, there’s still some things that stay the same, like being friends with Harry even if in most universes the friendship falls apart before they reconcile, being close with MJ and Gwen whether they end up dating or not, Aunt May getting to see them grow up till at least they’re in the middle of college, usually she lives longer than that though

So this Spidey has expectations for what their future looks like, both the good things and the bad things, they’ve Prepared™️, they got anti-goblin weapons and plans before Norman even becomes sick, they’ve prepared out how to divide up their time so they can be a good friend while balancing Spidey duties, they have plans for how to include their friends if they find out that they’re Spidey, etc etc etc

Except…a ton of those things don’t end up happening, like thankfully a ton of the worst stuff doesn’t happen, but neither does the good stuff

Poor old Aunt May who was heartbroken after Ben’s death holds out long enough to see them be accepted into universe on a full ride scholarship, and, knowing that they’ll be prepared for adulthood, she peacefully passes away in her sleep

They don’t ever have a falling out with Harry or MJ, but they also don’t have that incredibly close friendship/romance with them that other Spidey’s have, they never end up clicking with Gwen either so there’s no friendship/romance there either

Maybe they’re even prepared for the symbiotes, learning how to control their anger so that when the venom symbiote finds them, they can stand having it while they study it to find an alternative to it needing to eat people and maybe helping it find Brock under healthier circumstances, but instead their universe turns out more like the venom movies where the symbiote finds Brock immediately and it works out without needing Spidey at all

They never really become besties with the Human Torch, with Johnny off constantly fighting aliens and universe ending stuff while Spidey helps out the average civilian, they just don’t end up clicking and helping each other out

Maybe also they’re excited for Miles, hoping that their universe is one where they can mentor him but if not they made a ton of stuff to leave behind for him so the transition is easier, but he doesn’t exist, whether it’s yet or he’ll never exist in that universe, etc etc etc

Just,, A Spidey sitting in a base that they actually made so that they could have a hero group with their friends and leave it behind for Miles, full of possible hero suits for the people they know that are never going to be used, mourning possibilities that were never going to happen for them, and feeling ignored by their universe

#Spiderman #spider man #spider-man #peter parker #other characters mentioned #ships mentioned but did not happen

[random-wyvern]

If you guys like this i might redo it (but like i'll put more effort into it. and it probably won't be done in mspaint.)

#the bathbomb here can be platonic or romantic. whichever you prefer. #rw #rain world #my posts #random doodles #rw bathbomb #Does that ship have any other names. out of curiousity. #rw rivulet #rw artificer #i would tag all the other characters mentioned but they aren't actually in the comic

[balkanbitch]

Not to post about total drama in 2023 but I just love how emma and noah imply that the thing they love most about each other is the traits they get the most shit for from other characters

#emma mentions like his twisted sense of humor and moody grumy exterior. something that is disliked by other characters while noah mentions #how it is so cool how bossy and mean emma is #something she told to change about herself by others #i just #they make me crazy #ive seen the td fandom be feral about ships so please me kind #nemma #td nemma #td noah #total drama #total drama noah #total drama emma #rr emma #total drama ridonculous race #total drama presents: the ridonculous race #emma ridonculous race

[exaltior-a]

You spend so much time in yaoiland and yuriland where everyone just accepts gay ships that when you mention shipping sonic and shadow irl people act like youre insane

#sonic the hedgehog #sonadow #like i can ship the hedgehogs queerly on here or mention it to enlightened other fandomfolk #but god forbid i do i say i thibk they're gay around the wrong people. #“erm actually any and sonic-” bot canon either! #“sonic and shadow are straight!!” they have no confirmed sexualities either !! #like i can't lie to you. people have been thinking they had chemistry since sa2 came out #since fandoms inception #people have been thinking a male character and his male foil and/or rival were homos #lol god forbit i say i think sonic is trans lolol

[sunsetzer]

On one hand, I want a final fantasy 6 remake, because the game is criminally underrated and the amount of fan content (which is all absolutely fantastic btw) is Not Enough for my neurodivergent, hyperfixating brain.

On the other hand, that would inevitably encourage more people to join the fandom, which would be great, except it seems these days the bigger a fandom gets the more toxic it becomes, and I really like what we have going on over here in our little corner. We all just love the game and its characters and nobody fights about who should and shouldn't date who or who you shouldn't like because they're ~problematique~. Nobody's trying to make one ship morally better than another, nobody's calling anyone names or threatening to doxx people who don't agree with their opinions. It's so peaceful and I love that for us. We're just vibing. Moisturized. Unbothered. In our lane. Flourishing.

#as someone who was in an extremely toxic and chaotic fandom and lowkey still traumatized #to the point where I'm afraid to mention which fandom it was/what my ship was #i have to say #i genuinely love it here #i was nervous at first sharing my ships and headcanons but everyone is so chill i was worried for nothing #thank you to everyone I've interacted with who has made this fandom a healing experience for me #i shudder to think about what some of the people i interacted with in a previous fandom would do with ff6 #probably would take edgar's flirting at face value and call him problematic for objectifying women #instead of considering the narrative and what we know about him and the way he actually treats women #my man drinks loving and respecting women juice he's not a creep #or that weird moment with relm that admittedly made me double take before i realized what he meant #theyd have a whole campaign against him lmfao #bc those people boil characters alive until they're just a formless pile of tropes and stereotypes #and seem to disregard all positive aspects of a character they don't like which is fine #but then they go and try to force other people to think like they do and ugh #theres a lot of silly moments in the game and aspects of these characters that make them well rounded and realistically flawed at times #and i fear that would get lost in the chaos if the floodgates opened after a remake #maybe im just jaded lmao #im jaded and i have anxiety so im always thinking about The Worst Case Scenario #the collective positive spirit of the dwellers in this fandom might actually foster a positive space if more people were to come in #ff6 #my post #i was gonna say maybe this is bc we're mostly adults #but that falls flat when i remember how some of the most toxic and immature people in some fandoms are grown ass adults #who bully each other and younger fans #and some of the most mature and cool people were actually younger #maybe ff6 fans are just built different lmao #also idk how old anyone else actually is there might be teenagers here i just don't think about it a lot

[al-selfships]

Your f/o after being shipped with someone else again (you're their only love interest)

#ik some of y'all like to ship your f/os with other characters so this may not apply to everyone #but it sure applies to me #i wont mention the ship so that i dont piss anyone off #but holy shit. i see content of them everywhere and it kills me #(<- euphemism) #proship selfship #proselfship #selfproship

[ink-the-squid-gremlin]

I’m gonna say something that’s gonna apparently ruffle some feathers, but Enmu in no way, shape or form has anxiety or depression. He isn’t an anxious little soft boy. He’s an evil demon that takes pleasure in harming others, that was the whole point of him as a villain. Enmu was the villain to pretty much break Tanjiro of his sympathies for a bit, meaning that Enmu is in no way meant to be a sympathetic villain. KNY already has plenty of villains that we as the audience are meant to feel sympathy and pity for (i.e Rui and his spider family, Daki and Gyutaro, Akaza, Kyogai, etc) Enmu was meant to stand out from the other villains as a pure embodiment of evil (for lack of a better term) saying he canonically has anxiety or depression makes him into a sad character that the audience is supposed to feel pity for, which goes against the whole point of his character. (There is also the somewhat harmful implication that by saying a character like Enmu is depressed or has anxiety not only boils down to those very real disorders into a character trope, but it also is showing that you believe that those disorders lead a person to harm or even kill people, which isn’t a good outlook to have on those disorders. Sincerely, a person with both anxiety and depression.)

#squidposting #inkposts #ink talks #enmu #demon slayer #kimetsu no yaiba #I do want to also mention that I don’t think he should be shipped with anyone #but I’ll probably make that a separate post #all of these are just my own opinions #everyone is allowed to interpret characters how they want #just don’t go around telling others that your interpretation is correct or canon

[selfship-wormie]

your F/Os despise your abusive parents. they adore you and are proud of you, no matter what your parents tell you.

#f/o #self ship #fictional other #self shipping #f/o stuff #f/o community #f/o x s/i #romantic f/o #villain f/o #comfort characters #tw: abuse mention #tw: abusive parent mention

[lnsfawwi]

Bucky was second in command for the Commandos therefore should've planned strategy with SSR as much as Steve. yet there's zero indication that the SSR personales knew Bucky well enough to even call him by his name??

Peggy has never addressed Bucky directly, even after his death Peggy used 'your friend' in her conversation with Steve. that's, if not avoidance out of jealousy of his relationship with Steve, detachment. there's no personal relationship between Bucky and her. plus Howard Stark calling him 'sergeant Barnes' which literally couldn't have been more impersonal.

the only logical conclusion is that the Commandos never spent time socializing with Peggy and Stark, they probably didn't even meet all that often cuz they were going around Europe fighting Hydra while SSR stayed behind doing their own stuff. Then how can Peggy possibly be the person Steve couldn't get over with, let along have any long lasting impact on him when they've barely spent time together?

popcorn movies are thoughtless and get criticized for this precise reason. the plot doesn't have to be properly developed bc audiences are conditioned to think certain ways and they complete the story in their head for the movie. 'oh that's a classic setup for romance, of course the hero falls in love with her.'

the thing is, it doesn't make sense, and when it doesn't, it shouldn't.

steggy is what happens when you let this thoughtlessness dictates how you percee a trope in a movie.

she never should've been the 'love of my life' for Steve. she simply couldn't have been. THEY BARELY KNEW EACH OTHER ffs.

#anti steggy #steve rogers #fuck marvel #even if she didn't like Bucky for whatever reason #there's no way Stark didn't like him either #not when Bucky's character is canonly a charmer #imagine endgame!Steve buys Peggy flowers and she is actually allergic #cuz THEY DONT REALLY KNOW EACH OTHER AT ALL #this ship only makes sense bc it's how romance in movies works and ppl accept this w/o critical thinking #captain america #bucky barnes #not to mention she never was supposed to be the loml for Steve bc Steve was designed to be thrown into 21st century #Peggy was always meant to be the what could've been #that tragic lost love #so even if you accept her as the love interest in catfa #endgame still doesn't make sense #anti endgame

[candyheartedchy]

Just want to thank everyone who’s been enduring my Spo.ngeBob fixation these past few days.

#i know it might be annoying to some that I kinda just abandon my other f/o(s) rn and ended up really hyper focus on the sponge #but I never had so much fun self shipping with a character before #and I know I mentioned this before but to openly ship with him now makes me so happy I don’t think y’all understand #and I know it’s my blog and I can do whatever but I’m still nervous I’m coming across annoying and weird #but at the same time I kinda don’t mind??? like I should be happy and express my love for my favorite fictional character! #but I do feel guilty about leaving my other f/o(s) in the dust especially Scratch #it’s just I have so much shipping stuff I want to finally explore and share #and that’s why I been posting so much so fast because it was all kinda bottled up this whole time #and now it feels like the floodgates are open #and there’s just SO MUCH I want to talk about #so again thank you everyone who’s been supporting my ship and art #💬 chy chatter 💬

[goshdangronpa]

Remember when I asked yall for the weirdest Danganronpa rarepair? Well ... with only two minutes left in the holiday, April Fools! Here's something no one asked for! (Besides @krazykaos924, who I believe recommended the ship I ultimately picked)

Do you think we'd find each other in every universe? - goshdangronpa - Dangan Ronpa Series [Archive of Our Own]

My latest fanfic is a one-shot focusing on that much beloved ship, Teruteru Hanamura and Tenko Chabashira. Watch a peaceful night in the happy couple's life get livened up as they discuss an important question: "Do you think we … make sense together?” I hope you enjoy this ... practical joke? Earnest tribute? Whatever you make of it!

#goshdangronpa's goshdang fanfics #do you think we'd find each other in every universe #teruteru hanamura #tenko chabashira #also mentioned #miu iruma #sakura ogami #what even are the ship names for these characters #do they even matter #yes they do so if you know then tell me #april fools day

[cloudydayjoy]

Rotating Archie in my mind again

@feltcreature

#wander over yonder #woy #watchdogs #woy watchdogs #watchdog oc #woy oc #archie the watchdog #love seeing another oc dealing with the implications of having captain tim abroad #I think him and Teddy would get along in a thinks-of-each-other-as-work-friends-but-would-be-mildly-surprised-if-the-other-mentioned-it way #(Teddy's a materials scientist working on the CAPT Project- aka the Captain Tim proofing the ship and uniforms project) #since they're both blunt and low energy #with all the colorful characters around #sometimes it's nice to just have a direct efficient exchange of information with minimal socializing #btw made an artfight account just to see Archie's profile #feltcreature

[seirei-bh]

This is how I feel being the only one in the fandom shipping Kaladin x Tarah

#or maybe we're like... four people? #at least I feel like this ToT #I also ship Kal with others like shakadolin and kaleshwi but those ships have a lot of fans too so the feeling is very different #I don't even know the name of the ship XD #kaltarah? taradin? #I prefer kaltarah #kaltarah #kaladin stormblessed #stormlight archive #kaladin x tarah #me waiting to see at least a brief reunion between them in the 5th book #also me waiting Tarah could get more moments and be more than just an old romantic interest and a true character for herself #just let me dream with my fake ilusions #she only got one flashback scene and 3 brief mentions #pls I want to know more about her so I can write some brief fanfic #most people don't even remember her lol #I guess I'll end up just writing headcanons about them and only for me