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Edna & Harvey Iceberg!!

Leopardenmodus - a joke that was said to be a "secret mode" in many of daedalic's games, people speculate it would turn some things into a leopard pattern and was described in the manuals on how to activate it which was clearly silly and not meant to be taken seriously. it really is fake tho, Poki says it came to be while he was supposed to make a manual for Tony Tough 2 and he used the manual for a pretty broken game called Paradise as a reference which had an entire chapter on how to control the leopard you play as at some point in the game. poki accidentally didn't edit the table of contents so it still mentioned the leopard and then Carsten who he showed it to was like "looks great but i got one question... what's this secret leopard mode?" so instead of admitting he forgot to edit it he was like "oh, you're right" and went back to pull something out of his ass Developer commentary - you can activate Poki's commentary and he tells you about the development of the games from the corner Carsten Fichtelmann voices Bobo - Carsten Fichtelmann is the big boss at daedalic and i swear every single let's player who enters the dialogue with bobo notes that he was in fact voiced by him, poki said so in his commentary, everyone knows it... massive unique dialogue - the first game is known for having a huge amount of unique dialogue for those who are patient enough to combine everything with everything. poki really sat on his ass and typed thousands of lines while he could have gone the boring "this doesn't work" route. which is good, bless poki.

Volcanic theme - the original title "Edna bricht aus" (even tho not too far off from the english title) could be interpreted as the a volcano erupting, not only because Edna sounds very similar to the real life volcano Etna, but Poki also stated that the game progresses like a volcanic eruption. In the beginning the orange sky of the afternoon represents the initial eruption of magma and slowly cools down in the night towards the end of the game where the colours are more blue and muted like the cooled down volcanic stone. Just like the mood progresses from happy funny high energy gameplay to the slow moody vibe at the end. Church screen in HNE - when you go to the left in the graveyard where miranja sits, lilli will end up in one church screen from eba in its original resolution Droggelbecher speaks - Droggelbecher is an iconic character who is known to only ever say "Droggelbecher" but in a few instances, like when combining the earwax cup with the fly in it he says "Dieses Objekt übersteigt mein Fassungsvermögen." Also in the rpg in hne. blonde Edna - when interacting with mirrors Edna will say how she thought she was blonde, some people connect this to lilli HNE copyright protection - back when this was sold physically the box came with security system inspired by monkey island with a shiftable disc where you can generate a code according to the things shown in the lockscreen you need to pass. it has unique graphics but isn't required in digital copies so it may go unused or has been removed entirely. eastereggs in Deponia - in Poki's other passion project Deponia are several eastereggs to the E&H series such as a harvey shaped landscape on the globe in Lotek's office and the singing swordfish in the bar in chaos on deponia who sings the credit song from eba. there might be more tho

Gronkh's LP in E&H Special Edition - Gronkh had a pretty large positive impact on the E&H game's publicity and daedalic in general. He's also friends with poki so maybe as a thank you they included his let's play on the disc. The gray Harvey - in grimms merchland (harveybrichtaus.de) that has alot of daedalic merch for sale are 2 other colour variants of the harvey plush, the original blue one, a pink one (possibly intended to be The Girl Version™) and for some reason dark gray one. It is unknown why they chose to make this one. Gronkh as Doris - in some release of hne, Gronkh collabed with daedalic where they made him a little cameo appearance as an alternate voice of the mean cafeteria lady Doris. Harvey's new eyes are poozie's eyes - in HNE harvey gets a pair of red glowing small eyes that make him speak all monotone and glow when talking. a little robotic too. the same characteristics that alfred's old bear toy named poozie has when interacting with him in the memorial room in eba Haunted washing machine - the washing machine in the asylum basement has its own voice and dialogue colour (gray). usually when talking to something harvey speaks in place of it and also has his dialogue colour. the washing machine is significantly creepy and hostile towards both edna and harvey. it might just be another side of edna's illnes since a closet does the same thing by answering "NOOO" when edna asks if anyone is in there. unaccessable room - in the room with the bars and the many doors there is one door you can't go through, it's not locked, it just doesn't have an interaction on it, people have speculated this might be the room lilli accesses the asylum from via the furnace in HNE. Poki's phone number - when you use the fork with the lamp in the common room in eba you will see poki's actual office phone number from that time. Poki told gronkh a story in a livestream where apparently after gronkh's let's play published on youtube, thousands of people were exposed to poki's phone number. he put that in there on purpose, he had no idea what item reaction to write so he just jokingly went "if you got any funny ideas, please call poki" or something and didn't expect it to get any attention. silly poki. the phone rang for months. Michael Jackson inmate - in an early promotional trailer there was an inmate in a lineup of characters that poki confirmed to have been a reference to micheal jackson who would reside in the basement where that green graffiti of dr marcel is. he also mentioned he is a graffiti artist? third tempomorph - this is directly connected to the micheal jackson inmate and that he would teach edna to moonwalk i think as a third harvey power in a tempomorph sequence.

Blase's love - first things first: meeting someone IN a gas station bathroom can only be one of the same gender.. flushed emoji. but also in the credits it's mentioned that he ran away (literally, even the german original says that) with the love of his life but despite that he just kinda reappears in HNE. it would have made more sense for him to not appear again and instead put stiesel in his position in that game but I think Mr. Zaurins (his VA) was busy :(. Edna and Gerret were real - there are many hints that edna and gerret in hne were actually real and not imagined by lilli as proposed by dr. marcel at the end of the game. like why would edna be like "yeah lilli the dr is right, we're fake, sorry pls get his therapy ://" she is LITERALLY the person who hates him the most, it doesn't make much sense that she would tell lilli to subject herself to his therapy. this is possibly part of dr. marcels evil hypno harvey treatament to make her doubt everything she knows. Not to mention how would that balloon have gotten up into the chandeleir? the bomb out of the ground? the fireworks onto the pigeon? the secret monitor wall in the office???? the cave on the road where edna hides out?? PLEASE Edna & Harvey: The Puzzle - just a jigsaw puzzle game, one where you drag pieces to make a complete picture. for some reason daedalic has been making these of their franchises. nobody ever talks about them. early screens - on the cutting room floor you can find some unused early versions of some of the locations in game, like the waiting area and the staircase corridor. https://tcrf.net/Edna_%26_Harvey:_The_Breakout unused dialogue - there's a few variations of a reaction in the church to the keymaster's body that go unused. and actually there's quite a few item reactions you can't get because those items can't be brought into one room with those other things to react with. like use coin with stiesel. stargate - a cheat in the game's code lets you use debug features such as all items and a stargate in the middle of the cell so poki could easily access the common room when testing. there exists a texture for it that is normally unseen comparisons to Josef Fritzl - tw for sexual abuse: he was an awful human being who held his daughter in his basement for 24 years where he abused her and had multiple children with her and someone compared this case to mattis putting edna in the basement because he doesn't know how to parent. i would like to argue that those are not comparable but considering the game came out in the same year as this awful thing came to light, I can see how people would associate a child in a basement with that. Alfred was a test tube baby - it is mentioned in dr. marcel's datenmann document in the third paragraph where he is referred to as a "Retortenbaby" http://www.was-ist-der-irrtum.de/datenmann/drmarcel.pdf Auf der mörderischen jagd nach R... - the first and only part of a comic series released for the e&h series based around probably before the first game happens in the asylum

Newbie's ghost VA - newbie's voice actor is listed under a fake name in the credits of HNE. his actual VA is Olgierd Cypra but poki says he had to be credited as the non-existent Oliver König (twice because he also sang the edna song) because Olgierd was working for a rival company back then and had to be sneaky Poki didn't sing the credits song... - in the credits of the original it says Oliver König but we all know it's actually Olgierd Cypra but people always assume Poki sang it unused concept character - in concept art from HNE you can see a beta design of lilli (explained further 2 entires lower) next to what looks to be someone with ginger hair infront of the tree at the cliff. they are wearing suka's outfit so maybe it was a very early suka? Was Ist Der Irrtum?/datenmann - on Poki's website is a hidden non linked page where all the characters from eba are listed with their VAs and a description otherwise not seen anywhere else. i wonder what else poki is hiding from us http://www.was-ist-der-irrtum.de/datenmann/ beta lilli - there is this picture of the HNE cover where lilli looks drastaically different with faded wine red open hair and a different outfit backpack companion - in the same picture of that early cover you can see that early lilli holding what looks to be a backpack with harvey's old eyes sown to it, possibly an early scrapped companion Stiesel's brother - through the conversations with stiesel we find out how great his dad is or something but he never actually mentions that he has a brother who his dad much preferred and probably treated better than him. he is described to be his biggest rival http://www.was-ist-der-irrtum.de/datenmann/stiesel.pdf

Edna bricht aus plays in 2019 - my friend mia thought about this and said in a post: "the whispered world posters on edna’s wall. simple, the whispered world came out in 2009. ergo the scenes we see from edna’s childhood have to be around that time they can’t play BEFORE that year. edna, in the actual game, is 19. if she has been in the mental hospital for 10 years now it would conclude that edna was born in 2000 and edna and harvey: the breakout plays in 2019. ergo we had a edna & harvey year and completely missed it :/ “BUT MIA THOSE POSTERS WERE JUST SILLY-” PPPPPPPPPPPPPPSSSHH LET ME HAVE THIS!!!" technically i too know these were added after the game already came out when it was offically published by daedalic but shHHHHHHHH Edna & Harvey: Am Seidenen Faden - DerStirio is a guy who likes to send Gronkh those... how do you describe them... interactive care packages? with the help of plenty of gronkh's friends and daedalic themselves they made an amazing little game that was rather lacking in gameplay because there were real world math calculations neccessary with the help of cards from that package but it was still really cool. gronkh played it in a (!!! 17 HOUR LONG !!!) livestream and this was pretty much something just for him, for no one else to download or recieve.. might have been his birthday? cw for flashing graphics at the very beginning https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNFbklY5baU Eschers Casting room - the room where you get the coffee in is mentioned by poki in the commentary to be based on a room from a short film he was working on that never released https://www.crew-united.com/de/Eschers-Casting__17596.html he also mentioned that it smelled horrible and was really filthy in general from people not cleaning up after parties Early Intro - Poki says in the eba commentary that he was planning to have a different intro where dr marcel, mattis, alfred and edna are in the dining room of mattis' house but he decided to scrap it, that's why the dining room exists but serves no real purpose Holysoft Audiobooks - Two audiobooks based on both E&H games have been recorded for a series called "Videospielhelden" (episode 10 and 11) published by Holysoft. Main characters had their original VA while pretty much every other minor or supporting character had a completely different voice. Plotpoints have been altered or removed completely just like some characters have straight up not appeared at all. Stiesel erasure - we know 3 guards, Stiesel, Blase and Newbie and all 3 had more or less a good role in eba but only newbie and blase return in hne, stiesel isn't even mentioned. as poki's quote "one of my favourite characters" he sure doesn't ever show up.... he is in the copyright protection tho

copyright disc characters - there are a few characters on the HNE copyright protection paper disc that don't appear or are mentioned in any of the games such as a red haired man with glasses and beard and a white hair man with a baret. Serenata Musical - A 95 minute musical play titled "Edna bricht aus - Schon wieder!" was performed in 2016 at the Anime Messe Berlin by the musical show group Serenata. A recording of their perfomance could once be seen on their website https://www.serenatamusical.de/alle-st%C3%BCcke/edna-bricht-aus-schon-wieder-1/ but since it has been removed i got it here for you, ssshh! https://drive.google.com/file/d/19qKBMGZOX6nfxMWEDkhG9JvC6oWhS9Ac/view?usp=sharing There are no corpses in HNE - A theory that states that there are no actual dead bodies in HNE and that it's all in lilli's head since nobody around seems to react to the bodies and the gore at all. It seems as if lilli is excagerating those events in her head, which is what we see in the game. Dr. Marcel's patient relics room - On page 28 and 29 E&H AdmJnRF (Auf der mörderischen Jagd...) Edna and Freya discover a room that looks like a museum of random objects but they find out it must be relics of past cases Dr. Marcel treated. Which implies so many more patients we never got to meet. Edna and Harvey action figures - just like the harvey plushes and audiobooks, on grimm's website is a spot reserved for action figures of edna and harvey but no picture of it is available. we don't even know if they ever went past the concept stage.

the meaning of "Droggelbecher" - apparently there really is a meaning but Poki just refuses to tell us. since he's a fan of DnD i'd assume it's the cup you roll dice in since it makes a droggel sound? that is just my thought tho, maybe it's just an internal meme coffee room plant - in eba in the dark room where you interact with the coffee machine is a strange texture to the very left that kinda looks like a mesh of plants or salamanders and eyes or something, it's not in the remake, nobody but maybe poki knows what it is. asylum gunk - in the remake they added a bunch of green gross stuff around the asylum walls that usually only apeared in edna's old house at the end. why was it added? and what is it??? changed dialogue - in the demo of eba she says "mir ist aufgefallen wie gekonnt du diese tür bewachst" but i SWEAR in the full game she says "elegant" insead of "gekonnt" so who knows how much alternative dialogue there really is between those versions Diploma build - poki's diploma work was in fact eba! but it took some time until it got actually published to the public so the verson of eba we know is not the one that was graded all the way back when he graduated. no one knows what it's like except for poki probably (it had alot less of the unique interaction dialogue and i think it didn't feature voices?)

EXTRA Plankenschnack with Poki - https://soundcloud.com/plankenschnack/79-plankenschnack-poki (around after 1 hour mention of Kuhschubser's Erbe)

things i forgot: the keymaster survives - a popular theory in which the keymaster survives the fall in the church. it's supported by the fact that at the end of one of the credits it states his body was never found.

#edna and harvey #the breakout #harveys new eyes #harveys neue augen #edna bricht aus #I'm including all the explanations because i'm not a cryptic coward #i also don't expect anyone to know wtf i mean by coffee room plant #sorry the original link broke

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