#meth group

[lttleghost]

literally the people in the BrBa fandom who like think its super important to focus somewhat on the bad things Jesse's done instead of just acknowledging those things tend to have misunderstandings on either how selling drugs increase harm (which while there's other complexities to parts of the drug trade, simply making and providing drugs alone does not increase the harm those drugs cause) or they have misremembered some of his actual actions as being more in his control than they actually were, and with some people it really feels like it comes from the stigma against addicts even if they think they're not falling into that

and like again this lack of understanding around everything relating to drugs and addiction especially, even from people that mean well, is the whole reason it's more important to focus on the good in Jesse and how he's the victim rather than acting like there's no one acknowledges his flaws and the bad things he's done, cause a huge fucking swath of people outside our little tumblr circles do and act like every single bad thing in his life as entirely his responsibility without aknowledging any way that the world worked against him or the abuse he faced and see him as less of a person because he's an addict

and like I do think if Jesse wasn't the type of person that sees his own flaws and ultimately tries to do his best to change and learn even in the terrible situation he's in that doesn't want that change to happen, and instead needed people to like... constantly tell him to be better, then yeah it'd definitely be much more important to focus on those flaws and the bad things he did... but that's not the case, even the one thing he plans to do that was awful AND fully his choice (trying to sell drugs to the rehab group) was something he snapped himself out of when he was able to concretely see a consequence he hadn't considered before, this doesn't negate that trying to sell drugs to the rehab group was wrong, but it does add complexity to how we judge that action playing into Jesse as a whole

like you can't just sit there and act like ur so smart for aknowledging a character written like a real person is complex without thinking about the greater social commentary you're getting across when you insist we can't simply aknowledge the bad things a character does and have to still really judge them on those things or say calling them a "good person" erases the bad they've done and not consider if what you're saying is like... useful on a wider scale in combating the stigmatization of characters like Jesse (especially surrounding drug selling/making/using drugs) or if you're just refering to "woobification" bullshit that isn't particularly prevalent in the wider world

#okay I'm not that great with words but i hope this is understandable #jesse pinkman #jesse brba #jesse breaking bad #jesse pinkman brba #breaking bad #el camino #brba #like okay i may not have given this one person time ebough to respond to the last few things I've said but #im so blown away by like me trying to be like hey with Jesse as a character for wider commentary its not a good stance #to focus on his flaws #even if you are ultimately presenting a complex picture of him #because of the stigmatization and demonization of addicts #and when i asked for examples of Jesse CHOOSING to do things wrong outside of se3 #a) i got the selling drugs to the rehab group which like YEAH DUH THATS HIS 'im the bad guy' bullshit im alrady aware of that and agree #but i also was presented with 'while the war on drugs is bad meth is also bad and he chose to make and sell meth' #which.... demonstrates a misunderstanding on how that works #AMD THEN..... THEN I GOT 'Jesse talked about and used drugs around Jane and was responsible for her relapse' #and... EXCUSE ME? did we watch the same show? maybe Jesse was naive to think he could keep Jane away from all that stuff but #HE TRIED HE TRIED TO PROTECT HER #like in that case it just feels like... ur blaming him for being an addict wether or not he tries to keep it away #from someone else at risk #which like goes into its stupid to simplify people into obly good and bad actions #and I'm just #fucking furious #meat.txt #this is my girlfriend don't touch him

[batsarebetterthanpeople]

idc that jack was mean to stede, jack clearly had his reasons for what he was doing, the onus here is on ed 100% for not sticking up for stede. if someone is insulting your friend in front of you, that’s on you for not saying shit about it, especially if the insults are related to body image. if stede had let someone insult ed’s body in front of him you would lose your shit so maybe chill with the double standard

I'm gonna say some things that sound kind of mean, but I want you to either a) read the whole thing; or b) let this be the last anon you send. Don't come at me about the first paragraph in my inbox if you don't read the rest of it. Deal? K good.

I genuinely wouldn't lose my shit because it's not that big of a deal. Ed's a big boy he can stick up for himself. I don't actually take the insulting of body image that seriously because I'm not insecure about how I look. I get that I might feel differently if I was but I'm not so to me body image insults are like any other insults. Of course I back my friends if someone else insults them, but that's not what's going on in Ed's mind. In Ed's mind Jack has a crass sense of humor and uses not-so-gentle ribbing to relate to other people, which is perfectly acceptable for pirates, and that's what he's doing to Stede. He doesn't think that Jack is using fighting words here. Under those circumstances I would pull the friend aside and say "Hey babe his sense of humor is a bit crass he doesn't mean anything by it he's just trying to joke around with you." So basically you're kind of assuming a lot about me, about the situation, and how mad I would be if a similar thing happened to Ed and your assumptions about me have all been wrong so far. I don't have a double standard. You're just assuming that I have the same standards that you do. I don't. I think your standards make you sound like kind of an uptight person actually.

Additionally, Ed literally doesn't know he has body image issues, Stede never opened up about the bullying he experienced, so Ed can't know that it's actually serious for Stede. That being said, I think his response is actually pretty appropriate when correcting for that.

Pictured here: Ed telling Jack to stop. Ed telling Stede that this is just Jack's humor. Ed reassuring Stede that he disagrees with the insult. These are the captions that HBO max put up, I'm not just making shit up. Ed doesn't want to be a buzz kill but he doesn't want Stede to feel bad and he wants his favorite boys to get along. I think he walks the line rather appropriately given the information that he's working with. If he'd made a big stink about it it would have embarrassed Stede and killed the vibe that he and Jack had going. What you're expecting from him is the exact wrong move IMO.

So you know. He told Jack to stop, what more do you want from him?

Also Stede is 48 fuckin years old. If he's that upset he's grown he can say something. He doesn't because he's Stede, but that means he's made it his own business and nobody else's. Ed's not a fucking mind reader.

#so anyway #ed apologia #I guess #I'll defend this moment #it's not that fucking serious #Stede is going to feel bad about it for many moons to come but Ed didn't have enough info to do anything differently. #It's not Nigel Badminton insulting him it's Calico Jack #Jack goes in the friend category in Ed's brain #He's not gonna start a fucking fight with him that would be idiotic #also at the risk of sharing way too much about myself I think Ed's biggest mistake here is assuming this would go well actually #I would never in a million years introduce one of my meth johns to my d&d group #(my d&d group is all queer 20 somethings except wade who is 45 and straight?) #he hasn't said he's straight but he hasn't said he's not #like I don't bring chasers from grindr home because my roommates all have blue hair and pronouns #you feel me? #stede anon gate

[stonerzelda]

God damn it i slept in until just now WHY!!! But i did have a kiefer centric dream even if it was incredibly stressful. Fine

#i dreamt my bfs dad was casually just best friends with him and he invited me on a tril tk Thailand to go habg out with him so #obviously i was like uh yeah lets go but when we gkt there we knky made it to visiting one market before an earthquake hit except #there wasn't one? just everybody acting like there was one. also thja group of women i think were trying tl steal from him or something and #tried to use me for information #anyway i ended up sheltering in a school for ehstever reason and got separated from everybody #and then there was a drug bust and i had a dimebag of weed on me. and i genuinely feel bad abt this part #i basically planted it on somebody who tripped and their pockets emptied to show they had a shit ton of meth on them #and my logic was well this will just be a minor offense compared to that. #and then i hid in like a custodial closet #and saw a giant lever on the wall labeled 'KIEFER MANHUNT' so ig everything was just to get him lolll #there was more but it got very mixed up and lost any continuity. like donald duck had the same soul as aang kinda shit #very very sad i didnt get much of a chance 2 hang out with him like cant i just have a normal sex dream or some shit LOL

[soggypotatoes]

omg housemate and I were talking about angel dust hazbin hotel and put words to something exactly

angel is SUCH a good representation of hard drug addicts imo, so is husk - the song 'loser baby' is like. exactly what conversations are like in the psych ward/rehab that both me and housemate have stayed in lol. like, that's just what it's like! and afterwards when they're laughing about how angels abuser treats him. Ive never seen something get what those conversations are like lol

people laughing over their traumas, joking about how insane and shitty we all are while forming those brief but close relationships...

I need more hard drug addict representation please..

#ed mumbles #also me being called hard by a group of meth/ice addicts lol #theyre the sweetest guys!!

[honeyrosepetals]

every time i take vyvanse (every day bc it's a prescription) im shocked and surprised at how intensely it works

#feel like im on meth lite babey #did you know that vyvanse/adderall is one methyl group (carbon with 3 hydrogens) away from being meth #chemistry is cool i am a chemist fr (not joking) (i work in a lab) #adhd #she speaks

[anthonyaz602]

#im dtf #group #girls who blow meth #high asf #phxaz #tonight

[slightlyhopefulromantic]

adding a new sketch to my list of things to finish instead of finishing anything from said list

#sorry to my hero design page and also that one lark sketch i shared with the meth bay supermax group chat #theyll be done. eventually. at some point #for now i just wanna rodie #dndads #sketches #rodie

[sixohsixoheightfourtwo]

re: what fandom 'a little life' came from, my immediate knee-jerk thought was "backstreet boys." i have absolutely no basis for this other than Terminally Online Brain Worms esp bc..........there are 5 of those boyband fellas and as far as i remember only 4 main characters in that book lmfao. what can i say. the boyband angle feel right

yeah i'll incorporate that into my belief system

#fandom life #total speculation!!!!!! but i love it! #a little life #Ok but fr i think the time period of peak bsb rpf fits HY's age group #Also the (initial) thing of we are a group of successful handsome men all just kind of hanging out .. is very boyband au rpf .. #the nebulousness of the setting (in time period etc) is very fanfictiony to me the thing of everyone being successful in different fields #very fanfictiony #And one of them has a horribly traumatic backstory... classic fanfic trope! tho taken to extremes here. who here remembers #the 'rape recovery' fanfic trope. HY said what if that.. but no recovery . which sure is a valid artistic choice a valid question. #what if someone DIDNT get better. but full disclosure i could NOT finish this book i really felt i had to stop for my own safety . #as if people don't not get better all the time u know??? and as that one reviewer said . WHO in the world of this book #WOULDNT become a crystal meth addict. etc. there's no legit way out and that's a total authorial construction. #anyway i do actually think she's a skilled writer but i did not feel the compulsion to finish this book that so many ppl have felt #built different i guess. just walk out! #if you're a normie who never read any absurdly ott h/c fanfiction i guess it hit different tho! #mangoamango #asks #i welcome furhter speculation.... i always thought it was possible it was some band i'd never heard of or some 90s manga i never read #I did manage to read her first book 'the people in the trees' and yes i would describe it as 'good' #but it's like . imagine an ursula le guin book but evil

[necromancy-savant]

Who remembers the time in my first year back at college at a new school when, in my first ever Linguistics class, my professor asked me to research alternative terms for "penis" on Urban Dictionary?

@memey-dreams

#tagging my friend whom I met in that class hopefully he's still on here and remembers this assignment #I know he remembers our first day where the professor spoke all Romanian to us for an hour and gave us a Romanian lesson #I felt so smart that day ngl bc I clocked it in half a second #I was like this is a Romance language that looks kind of Slavic: must be Romanian #we all were speaking it really well though if I do say so myself #and with no instruction in English whatsoever #and then he came clean lol #oh anyway the conclusion of this story is that he had said specifically he would only give the word penis to guys and vagina to girls #and frankly he was making a lot of assumptions about my body and also my comfort level and so I begged #please don't make me look up penis on Urban Dictionary I already know where this is going #and he said ok why don't do meth instead? and I said yay thank you! :D #so the next class nobody else did meth though so I got put with a group doing weed and I named like 6 slang terms for weed #off the top of my head that I've heard people say all the time that they didn't already even have on their lists

[onyxhellebore]

The best characters in Breaking Bad are Gustavo Fring and Skyler White (I am mad at Jesse for selling meth at his addiction group)

#yeah i know gus sells way more meth but that's such a violation of trust jesse what the hell #breaking bad #gustavo fring #gus fring #skyler white #i love jesse normally but he is in character jail. i am mad at him. stop projecting your issues with walt onto the leader of your group #and hurting everybody there bc of it jesse grow up

[buysomecheese]

Literally I wanna relisten to season 1 so bad but I Don’t Have Time and I wanna get into Camp Here & There and DnDnD really bad but my brain is all “LISTEN TO DNDADS SEASON 1 LISTEN TO RAINBOW KITTEN SURPRISE THINK ABOUT HOW THE TWO CONNECT” that’s all there is up here

#dungeons and daddies #dndads #rainbow kitten surprise #don’t ask me Why but Nick Loves RKS so much #he used to have Glenn play RKS songs for him #and so Glenn Also loves RKS mainly for the bonding time he gets with his son #on one of the days when the dads all have Time with their boys in faerune they have a little campfire #Nick convinces Glenn to play RKS for the group #Everyone Loves It #Darryl hears First Class and Work Out and is like ‘’whatttt the Fuck man’’ #like about him and Carol #anyways I have a Lot of feelings about this #RKS is also one of the main ways that Nick and Nicholas get along in one body after the whole Meth Bay Supermax arc #like I also have Infinitely many feelings about that lmao #they both love RKS (even though Nick was very open about it and Nicholas hadn’t really told anyone) #so when they both have a headache and can’t focus and keep fighting they’ll just put on RKS until they know how to talk to each other again #DUDE I have so many Thoughts about those two oh my Fucking gods

[usercannibal]

crazy how online I see so much discourse about what’s goth and what’s not and just a fuck ton of in fighting about shit that doesn’t honestly matter whereas my experience with the scene irl has just been “hey as long as you don’t do meth we’ll fuck with you”

#like literally for the WhatsApp group I’m in for events only rule is ‘no meth allowed’ #and beyond that no one gives a flying fuck #shay.txt #I mean you so also gotta listen to goth music because like #90% of what we do is go to goth clubs and shows etc but I digress

[getosbf]

When someone starts reading your fic who CLEARLY isnt as hyperfixated on the ship as you and your mutuals are and they leave actual logical replies and point out plot holes instead of going as feral as you and your mutuals

#heh what do i care #i write for myself and my circle of hyperfixated beans #the hyperfixated beans are hergie. @methpring (i wanna call you meth but then i keep remembering what meth means lmfao). sya. veera. umbra. #teju and the occasional keysmashers #other people are welcome to read i love you all too but i only think of these people when i write #as our wise queen rainbow rowell said #write for yourself and your group of tumblr mutuals who reply with keysmashes and hearts #oh you didn't like this specific thing i added to the plot? #let me ask my favourite five people if i should give a fuck #they all said no lolsies get fucked #the chronicles of google docs and guddu #i hope im doing this writing thing right

[dankovskaya]

I spent like 2 or more hours yesterday just sitting in front of a massive screen where they were playing kpop music videos by request and honestly that was probably really bad for me psychologically like I damn near wanna see what ikon is doing these days. No the fuck I don't

#I do miss twice lowkey i will admit that at least but im literally not strong enough Lmfao #The neverending reward-punishment feedback loop of following literally any kpop group is more physically and mentally #damaging than crystal meth #In my humble opinion

[wall-e-gorl]

Very excited for once upon a crime. To prepare for it I think I'm gonna watch leverage over again

#unprepared casters #once upon a crime #'vic whats lever-' IM SO GLAD YOU ASKED #its a show about a group of criminals (hitter hacker theif grifter mastermind) who hit the jackpot and never have to steal again #but they quickly get bored and decide to work together and get revenge on corrupt billionaires for people wronged by them (for free) #its kinda like cop shows in the constant predictable format but a thousand times better cause leverage is not copaganda #its great. there are some moments that you go uhhhhh at cause it is from 2008 #but other than those few and far between bits its great #its great #theres a poly couple as canon as 2008 could allow. theres so much growth in all of the characters. everyone is like so pretty #in the human way not the everything-photoshoped-perfect way #they steal a mountain twice. different mountains. #they do a bank heist WHILE its being stood up AND frame the bad guy they had alreadly did a con on for it and also for doing meth as bonus #they land a hacked plane while 4/5 of the team is on the plane and the 5th fixes it while pretending to be an office worker so convincingly #that the office throws him a birthday party #they do a The Office themed epsiode and the subplot of the hacker eating the hitter sandwich is a metaphor for their relationship #the asshole on the team gets forcibly adopted AND shot several times. about once a season. #its a great fun time. the reboot is great too its very gay in the 2021 way #also if you need anything else to convince you that its good #i stayed up for like 3 days straight only watching it start to finish all 5 seasons and started hearing the background music while paused #and do not regret it #pretty sure i started a rewatch later that same week

[bornetoblood]

Breaking Bad Intro Music Plays

#late night doodles with ratborne #laurence and jesse met at a trans talk group #low effort meme #the continuity of the old blood laced meth #bloodborne #laurence the first vicar #breaking bad #jesse pinkman #walter white #brba