A disclaimer: I am not unbiased. I am not even pretending to be unbiased. I'm a JGY fan, and I think the fandom significantly misunderstands his character, his relationship with NMJ, and his killing of NMJ. If this is going to upset you, please don't read this.
I am also quite extremely harsh on FJ; again, if this upsets you, please don't read this. That said, I want to make it clear that I am neither condemning anyone for enjoying the movie, nor arguing that they shouldn't enjoy it! I think the idea that you should or shouldn't enjoy works of fiction is, by and large, fairly silly, and if I imagine the movie outside of its canonical context, I can see how I would enjoy it too.
All that said, while I am not pretending to be unbiased, I am trying to be textually sourced. If I make a claim that a specific thing does or does not happen in FJ, MDZS, or CQL, and you know that that thing actually doesn't/does happen, I welcome the correction.
Also I'd like to thank confusion-and-more for helping review this, pointing out weaknesses, and strengthening many of the arguments; this post would be much, much weaker without them.
The post ended up being too long to fit in a single post, so I split it up into four posts plus this intro/table of contents. Note that the parts aren't of equal length, since I wanted to divide it up in a way that made sense conceptually.
Intro - Pt 1 - Pt 2 - Pt 3 - Pt 4
First, a list of claims I think FJ makes about the Soc/SoT (Song of Clarity/Song of Turmoil), the Nie Clan, NMJ, NHS, and JGY, followed in each case by my argument that FJ makes that claim, and my evaluation of that claim against the evidence in MDZS and CQL. After that, I discuss my thoughts on how these changes affect our understanding of the characters; and then finally I end with a few observations that didn't quite fit into the post anywhere else.
-The SoC is expected to heal NMJ completely
-A few brief passages from the SoC, even when played by someone with weak cultivation, can very quickly bring a halt to NMJ's violence
-The SoT is so powerful that the brief corrupted passage will totally overwhelm all positive effects from the unaltered SoC, even if the player is using equal cultivation power throughout
The Nie Clan
-When the curse is coming on them too strongly, they remove themselves to the tombs to die there
-NMJ wished to protect NHS from cultivating with the sabre as a youth.
-In his heart, NMJ carried significant doubts about the righteousness of Nie cultivation practices, including both the sabre-curse-inducing sabre cultivation and the practice of balancing the sabre spirits via corpses in the wall
-NMJ used to be "intelligent and wise;" it's due to the effects of the sabre curse that he is "moody and brutal."
-NMJ respects NHS' interests
-NHS is profoundly morally motivated
-NHS isn't really interested in JGY's gifts
-NHS is motivated by a desire for his brother's respect and the respect of their men
-NHS knows about the sabre curse
-NHS, though bad at fighting, is skilled in cultivation theory
-JGY has the authority to teach NHS the SoC
-JGY involves NHS in his killing of NMJ
-JGY can straightforwardly prevent NMJ's violence via the SoC
-Someone other than JGY is the main target of NMJ's violence
-JGY is easily replaceable, indeed at all replaceable, as a subordinate
Let's go through these claims, and show for each why I'm saying FJ is making that claim, then the contrary evidence from MDZS and CQL. (As a side note: I am quite familiar with the relevant sections of MDZS; with the exception of the Empathy sections I am less familiar with CQL. Although I did my best to rewatch relevant sections, and I am reasonably confident when I say something /did/ happen, it's certainly possible I'm missing something from a scene I didn't think to watch.)
Part 1: SoC/SoT and the Nie Clan
Part 2: NMJ and NHS
Part 3: JGY
Part 4: My thoughts on the effects of the changes on our understanding of the characters + misc notes
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Request Info (Writing, HCs, Prompt Requests)
So I wrote one like over a year ago, but it was too messy for my liking so I’m gonna rewrite it!
Before I get into what I will and won’t do, the requests can take me a while. It all depends on the ship/prompt and motivation. I don’t like putting out things that’ll suck, especially if it’s requested by someone. I hope you understand! And yes requests are always opened, just shoot me an ask or a DM.
Big disclaimer: When it comes to Ghost I will not write him in a way that makes him seem like an asshole for no good reason. I absolutely hate when he’s portrayed like that and personally I think it’s a bad take on the complex character that he is. I’ve dealt with that interpretation for a decade now, I’m tired and i hate it.
Rainbow Six: Siege
Call of Duty - MW series + Reboot & Ghosts
Character’s I will do:
The OG 20 operators - I’m the most comfortable with them.
Mira, Mozzie, Lion, and the majority of the other operators, it’ll just take me a bit.
Ghost, Price, Soap, Roach, Dunn, Gaz (both versions), Alex, Farah, Logan, Hesh, Rorke, Keegan, and Merrick.
MW 2019 operators.
Character’s I won’t do: Mainly because I don’t like them or they don’t have a lot to go off of.
Finka, Kali, Ace, and probably like every other NH operator that gets added tbh.
Makarov, Elias Walker, Yuri, Kick, Adler, BOCW operators.
Ships I will do:
Canon x Canon (F/M, F/F & M/M)
Canon x OC (Just give me a bit of their personality/background and I will do my best to give them justice)
Canon x Reader (Headcanons only)
Poly Ships - Spetsnaz preferably, but I can definitely do some other poly ships as well.
Mozzie x Whoever - I know he canonically married, but I really don’t mind answering stuff for him and another operator.
Ships I won’t do:
Tachanka x Anyone who is not Skylar or any of the other Spetsnaz boys. He belongs strictly with Skylar fight me on that.
Ghost x Anyone who is not Liz or Roach
Incest Ships - Self explanatory.
Rorke x Logan - Y’all had to be freaks and make every single fic a freaking r*pe fic.
Fuze x Ying & Kapkan x Frost - I just don’t like them.
I do accept NSFW prompts, however I will not do a/b/o, non-con and dub-con for obvious reason and anything I find offensive or it just not my things.
I won’t do anything regarding enemies to lover or love/hate relationship stuff because I just don’t vibe with them and I can’t write them to save my life. If you want angst though, I’m your girl.
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