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crooked-wasteland · 7 months
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How many times does a writer have to poorly write a female character before you have to just consider the idea the writer hates women.
Every single female to female interaction in Helluva Boss exists on a sliding scale of hostility, ramping up from Harvest Moon onward. In Harvest Moon, Millie has the most meaningful interactions for her character between her mother and Sister Sally May.
Millie and her Mother do not have a great relationship. Millie's mom is constantly scrutinizing and criticizing everything Millie does. Millie is given a blatant double standard compared to her other siblings. Anything Millie does has consequences while MtF transgender sister Sally May is spoiled by both the family and the writers.
Sally May condescends her older sister constantly. Being given a position of superiority by just her attitude while the way she is allowed to get away with the same things Millie does but can't be excused for shows a clear golden child and scapegoat child. However, none of this ever gets addressed. We are meant to believe that this is what healthy and good female to female familial relationships are supposed to look like when it hinges on unfair family dynamics.
This could have been the plot to the episode. Millie is seeking a constantly critical mother's approval while watching a younger sister get preferred treatment. It would allow a ton of character for Millie. Constant scrutiny and unequal treatment have a psychological effect on children.
Madrano insists there is a sibling rivalry between Sally May and Millie, but doesn't seem to realize where rivalries come from in family dynamics. If it was a competitive outlet like a sport, that would be one thing. However, the only comparison we see throughout the episode is that mom lets Sally May do whatever she wants while Millie is left out. That kind of sibling rivalry is not healthy on a fundamental level. Kids in healthy families get treated fairly. That means that kids should be held to the same expectations in broad strokes while making room for their individuality. Punishing one kid for doing the exact thing the other one is doing without consequence is not a loving, healthy family dynamic, and it says a lot that the criticism is leveled solely on Millie. The only cis female child.
Then there is Truth Seekers. The pilot was the only point where any suggestion of tension between Millie and Loona was expressed before the two had basically no interaction with each other in the series proper. However, it is written like we should just assume they have a not-great relationship as they make little jabs at one another. Like, there is this presumption that women just naturally don't get along that colors their entire interaction. We are supposed to get this idea that they are growing closer throughout the mission but have no foundation of where they are growing from, and every "bond" made is generously coated with backhanded compliments.
Even when being kind, the characters can't help but hiss at each other with insults towards female sensitive issues like aging. It's up there with making fun of someone's weight. It's an issue unfairly targeted towards women that is a genuine source of distress in Western society. Madrano, being a woman, especially one who has openly struggled with aesthetic concerns of her own body, finding nothing wrong with characters attacking female characters for their looks says a lot.
There are additional quips of just blatant misogyny throughout season 2. The character assassination of Stella from being a potentially abusive, cold, and selfish partner to being hyper emotional and screeching all the time with no ability to have a complex throught beyond the level of a toddler. The repeated insults of "bag of holes", "pussy face" and "tit haver" by Blitz as female side characters are boiled down to nothing but the sexual qualities which are then used to demean and belittle them.
The true zeitgeist of Madrano's attitude towards female relationships is seen best in Episode 8. The early interaction of Loona and the poodle hound is vapid, which makes the hostility feel less personal between the characters and more a continuation of this female misogyny. The reasoning for Loona to become so upset is weak throughout the episode but is simultaneously felt to be justified while being a character flaw.
The poodle shows an embarrassing picture of Loona with the same vapid reasoning as Stella: I hurt you because it's my enjoyment. Seeing how this is the second appearance of this characterization, this is where I begin to believe that Vivienne had a hard time making friends with other girls in school. Instead of any level of self-awareness towards maybe herself being an unagreeable person, she assumes this was just how women are. The way she frames Loona in a lot of these scenes feels too personal. It almost feels she assumed we all had this kind of experience growing up as young women, and that is why it never gets fleshed out more.
The scene could have been used so much better with being specifically targeted towards Loona and her character. Have the poodle say something like, "Loona? Lunatic Loona? Is that really you? We thought you, like, died or something!"
Have Loona feel awkward and out of place, unsure if it's an insult or a legitimate concern, and have her toe that line of neutrality as she tries to assess the atmosphere. It shows a desire to be accepted, a very raw inner self that is quick to be triggered, as well as her lacking in interpersonal skills. She can simply pull in with a defensive, "What's that supposed to mean?"
Then, have the poodle respond with something like, "I dunno. You got adopted one day and then totally disappeared. When they didn't return you, we all just assumed you died or some shit."
It is a cruel joke that says way more about Loona than anything we have been given. It can get a laugh as well as open the door to so much unspoken lore that fans could actively explore. It actually establishes Loona's fear of abandonment that never gets set up at all throughout the series. Even Seeing Stars doesn't establish that fear, yet still tries to act like it is present in the story.
This sort of cold disinterest in Loona better fuels the level of insecurity needed to have Loona lash out the way she does. Instead of being so thin-skinned that embarrassment alone triggers her to blow up, have it be the utter loneliness that people she knows don't care whether she is alive or dead and that she lacks fundamental worth to others.
But this isn't the only massive train wreck of escalation seen in the episode. Beelzebub is a genuinely sweet character throughout the episode who does nothing to even hint at selfishness or malice. She graciously accepts an embarrassing defeat in front of everyone while Loona can't so much as laugh at herself. Loona uses Blitz's win to then elevate herself socially in the party, not actually spending any time with her adopted father.
I am genuinely confused by people claiming that Loona was defending Blitz as Beelzebub is simply telling her that her dad is not doing well and that she should check on him. Telling someone their friend or family member is self-destructing is not something anyone needs defending from. That goes into the fanbase more than the writing however.
Back to the actual episode, the line that causes Beelzebub to snap at Loona isn't when Loona accuses her of being jealous or petty, but when Loona merely states that everyone loves Bee. For some reason, that comment is what triggers a fight. It shows a fundamental lack of understanding basic human interaction. That women are too emotional that they blow up for no reason. It almost feels more at home in a JustPearlyThings fever dream than an actual serious exploration of human emotion. Add to it the deescalation doesn't come from communication or finding common ground, but by elevating the comfort of a man.
I'm not sure how many times it needs to appear in action and be so forced to the point that it doesn't even bother to justify itself, by acting like this is just everyone's experience with women, before we can call a spade a spade.
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prodigal-explorer · 2 months
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questions to ask yourself when critiquing a female character:
1. is she boring, or are you saying that because she’s a girl?
2. is she annoying, or are you saying that because she’s a girl?
3. is she a bully/overly aggressive, or are you saying that because she’s a girl?
4. is she a crybaby/overly sensitive, or are you saying that because she’s a girl?
5. would you like or even tolerate this character more than you do if she was a boy?
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waywardbananawolf · 6 months
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The avatar fandom is a place full of misogyny that if they see a woman being against the male protagonists they will say that she is "irredeemable"
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tamiel-exp · 2 months
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My cock starts to throb every time you talk about validation, dignity and respect.
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angelhimeros · 26 days
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everything that makes women women is the reason that we belong as nothing more than servants and breeding holes for men .
our long soft hair perfect for grabbing and controlling our mouths as we gag on your dick , our soft skin perfect for leaving marks and bruises , our tits perfect for grabbing and hitting and sucking , our holes perfect for being used to dump your cum into , and our womb perfect for breeding , so that we’re forced to be nothing more than youre submissive housewife ❤️ oh how i love being a woman !!!
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reddit is a hellsite 🤢🤮
TW/CW fatphobia, misogyny
found on r/moreplatesmoredates...it's a rabbit hole I really didn't want to go down.
What's worse is apparently this poor girl was already at the gym constantly and wore extremely loose fitting clothes to the first date with this asshole. I hope she dumps his sorry ass, she's too good for him.
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As we say every time this debate rages anew, it’s extremely silly to have a hissy fit because you’ll have to play as a woman in a video game. But it’s more than that – it’s a huge indicator of the right-wing, conservative trends in gaming as a whole, and the fact that misogyny seems to be getting worse as gaming companies branch out into female-led games is extremely concerning. It’s foolish to think that online trolling and misogyny have no real-life effects, especially after what happened with the Thug Shaker Central Discord server. It’s a symptom of increasing political polarisation, and a willingness to be dicks about a woman character on the internet that does, unfortunately, point to a willingness to be a dick to women in real life. Every time a new game launches with a female protagonist, I find myself holding my breath, hoping that maybe this time, gamers won’t be such beasts about it. I always find myself disappointed.
Tessa Kaur of The Gamer, on the reaction to Star Wars: Outlaws. Full article here.
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omegaverseaita · 8 months
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AITA FOR GIVING MY DAUGHTER ADVICE AFTER SHE MADE A MISTAKE?
Me(40M, omega, he/him) and my wife(42F, alpha, she/her) recently went on a 2 week vacation to the Bahamas without our daughter(17F, omega, she/her).
Our daughter is very self sufficient, and very obedient so my wife and I weren’t too concerned about leaving an omega alone during our trip since we would check the front and back door cctv every once in a while.
Well after we booked into our hotel, I decided to check the cctv while my wife went to fill the bathtub, and lo and behold there were a few people at our door. They’re my daughter’s friends and after she let them in I closed the cctv tab.
A few hours later my daughter called me and she was hysterical and sobbing and I could barely make out what she said. I called my wife over and she managed to calm her down. My wife put the call on loud speaker so I could listen in on the call, my jaw dropped as I listen to my daughter confess that she was in heat because she hadn’t been taking her repressants and had invited her alpha friends to knot into her. My wife calmly tells her to take my plan B pills that I keep next to my bedside drawer and then she’ll get a stern talk once we get home.
My daughter then proceeded to tell her that she planned to keep the baby but none of the alphas she slept with was willing to claim the baby, I blew it and I told her how ashamed I was that as an omega, I didn’t instilled the values of a good omega into my daughter like I thought I had and various other things I don’t remember.
My wife proceeded to use her alpha voice to shut me up because “shaming” my daughter isn’t going to solve anything and how it’s my fault I threw away her knot toys when I was cleaning her room and that we’re booking the first flight back home.
I wasn’t shaming her, I was only giving her advice on how to be a good omega but I can’t go against my wife’s alpha voice so I stormed off and went to repack our things.
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martian-astro · 3 months
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I just wish women knew that they don't have to be in a relationship with someone who doesn't put in the same amount of effort as them. I see a lot of relationships around me where the women is doing everything, and I think the sad part is that they are so vocal about feminism, they KNOW what the problem is, they talk about how women get together with toxic men because they are always taught to settle for the bare minimum, and then you meet their boyfriends and the disappointment is so huge, because you would never expect someone like them to be with a guy who doesn't know how to wash his ass, refuses to perform oral sex on them, doesn't plan dates or even bother to dress up for an already planned one. It's just so weird to me and sometimes I look at them and I think- what if one day, I too, settle for a man like this, and it makes me so scared. I just really want to understand the psychology behind this kind of behavior. I read somewhere that "even if a mother is a passionate feminist or even just a non feminist who firmly believes in men respecting women this doesn't necessarily socialise her children to respect women. Her children will recognise her lack of power instead. The very role that mothers occupy in patriarchy mean a lot of the socialisation is done already by the structure." I read this on Tumblr, I don't remember who posted this, these are not my words, but a lot of things make sense when I read it. All the girls mentioned above lived in a two parent household, and despite their mothers working, they still saw how she did the majority of household chores and how she wasn't in control of her own life. I think I'm in a better position because I was raised by a single mother, a very strong woman who has never submitted to anyone, who went against everyone and took charge of her own life, got divorced and without any financial support raised my sister and me in the best way that she could and when I interact with other people I realise how well behaved we are, and how much better we are doing in life compared to others of the same age. I wish other girls were also raised the same way I was, so that I could make them see the things I see.
This was just supposed to be a meme sort of a thing, but then all my feelings just started pouring out😭
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eaglesnick · 11 months
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The Death of Free Speech.
In my last rant about British politics I discussed the Tory move to the right and highlighted the United Nations concerns regarding increased police powers and the threat that poses to our democracy.
We all know that the Metropolitan police have been found to be “institutionally racist, misogynistic and homophobic.”  Now we have direct evidence that Leicestershire Police also has misogynistic questions to answer after the appalling way it has treated Labour MP Stella Creasy.
Ms Creasy was subject to an investigation by local social services because they had received a complaint from a man claiming Ms Creasy’s "extreme views” were a threat to her children because they might adopt her beliefs,  and they needed to be taken into care for their own protection.
A safe-guarding review was carried out by a panel of people from social services, the police and schools, and the complaint was dismissed as being completely unfounded. The panel then contacted Ms Creasy because they thought she and her children might be at risk from the complainant.
The man in question had never met Ms Creasy or her children. This man, who used an alias, was contacted by Leicestershire Police, and was given an informal warning and a community resolution after it was found the man had repeatedly emailed Ms Creasy’s office, angered by her “man-hating" politics.
Ms Creasy now has a social services record that cannot be legally deleted from the files. To add insult to injury, Leicestershire Police said the man was  “legally entitled" to express concerns to social services and that she should "expect to be challenged" because she is a woman MP in the public eye.
In short, Leicestershire Police have sanctioned the weaponising of the threat to have your children taken away from you if someone disagrees with your views. How can there be free speech if women with something to say can be subject to misogynistic trolls?
Have we really reached the point in this country where the police accept attempts by intolerant individuals to have peoples children taken into social care simply because they do not agree with the views of the mother? What if you don’t like the beliefs of the father? Will the police sanction similar complaints against male MP’s?
As Ms Creasy said:
“The normal reaction would be utter horror at the suggestion my children should be taken away because someone disagrees with my views.” 
Sadly, this appears no longer to be the case. Maybe the police-state has arrived sooner than I thought!
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maiimaiix · 4 days
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I love my stuffys I get soo happy and I barely have to think hehe I get weally dum. But I get super dum when I smoke and drink I get so disoriented. I’d trust anyone can u trust u ?
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aves-is-tired · 11 months
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Ugh men: a rant
Cis white gay men are driving me feral. I get that being a gay man is hard and that’s something I’ll never experience, but… I hate men. They think that because they have one piece of oppression to fall back on that they are the top shit. I once had a white gay man say to my plus sized black friend that he “understands her struggle” because he’s gay. And the gay men who call women b*tch and c**t for fun aren’t cute. It’s called misogyny.
(Personal anecdote time)
In the theatre space cis white gay men run it. They get so many opportunities we could never even think of. And being a disabled, androgynous, AFAB person who refuses to get pushed around, I never get any grace. Men see me and people like me and don’t know how to handle me. So I always get out in the ensemble. (I’m not upset about this, I love doing theatre. But I have had professionals tell me that it’s not cause I’m not talented but it’s cause I don’t fit.)
This got me thinking about how cos white gay men put the rest of us aside to further their own liberation and rights back in the 70s. They separated themselves from the rest of us crazy POC lesbian transgenders. And now that’s reflected again. White gay men leave the rest of us in the dust and don’t let us in. We are being pushed into the ground, being squandered, killed, or being put to death in Florida. But the cis white gay men have their rights so the fight for oppression is over.
Cis white gay men, it’s your turn to sit down and give the rest of us some space to get our own fucking rights.
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beabaseball · 11 months
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Occasionally I remember periods exist and I automatically start losing my shit at everyone who's ever stuck their nose up and snottily declared the body doesn't affect the mind
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singofsolace · 7 months
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Okay my last living grandparent is possibly actively dying and I don’t know what to do or how to feel about it, so instead I started rewatching SVU to provoke any feelings at all, like your average fucked up person, and it has just occurred to me that in Season 1 Episode 5 (“Wanderlust”) of SVU, Elliot Stabler gets INFINITELY MORE patience, grace, and understanding from Cragen than Olivia Benson did in episode 1, when they were investigating an exponentially worse criminal???
Like Elliot literally admits to his captain’s face that he dropped the ball on a case specifically because he was imagining his daughter in the place of the person who wound up being the perp, and that *Olivia’s* objectivity is what saved the case… and yet Captain Cragen is SO NICE and understanding about it??? And reassures him that feeling things in the sex crimes division is okay—it’s when you STOP feeling things that you have to be worried—but yet the same man literally threatened Olivia Benson with losing her JOB in the pilot for essentially the same reason??
Obviously, I know there’s a double-standard at play, so this isn’t “news,” but still???
How did none of the writers realize that within the first five episodes of the show, they blatantly demonstrated that Stabler gets a free “pass” for getting emotionally involved in cases for personal reasons, while in the pilot (literally ONLY FOUR EPISODES EARLIER) Olivia is told there is only one “get out of jail free” card in the pack, and treated like a bad cop for being emotionally involved in a WAR CRIMES case where the “victim” by all accounts deserved what he got?!!?!? Like.. what???
Make it make sense???
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kniznaakritikantka · 10 months
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Can we talk about misogyny on the part of writers?
Quite often in books, especially novels and romantic comedies, I observe that authors make the female character overly emotional, such a silly hysterical woman, and the man in her background, of course, is sensible, calm, even one could say unavailable. A real knight, who takes responsibility for her and protects her from the whole world.
Every time this happens, I want to ask: when will you stop passively humiliating women?
I can count on the fingers of one hand stories in which the female character was originally more mature and complete, not created to be an addition to the man. A woman's value is not to dissolve into her partner, or just to love him. A woman is a fucking human being, with her own experiences, traumas, emotional needs and defense mechanisms. And then you read reviews that talk about love for a man and humiliate the female character because she is "infantile". By the way, usually those male characters are a red flag. We just tend to idealize men with abusive tendencies)))
I am not against this type of female characters, when they are emotional, flashy, because there is a huge number of such people, and that's normal. But why can't you reveal them as a normal person? Show the influence of society with its patriarchal attitudes, how detrimental this is?
I will give you the example of "The Spanish Love Deception". Initially I liked the book, but still the final chapters caused contradictory feelings. Reading the reviews of different bloggers, probably 80% of them were negative towards Catalina and her "infantilism", that she annoys them and other things. Except that she is quite logical and understandable in terms of personality organization: the author goes deeper into her past experiences, which explains certain attitudes and reactions. The main red flag in this story is the man: in one of the final chapters, when Сatalina has an anxiety attack (there may have been a real panic attack, but I don't remember exactly), instead of showing compassion for her condition and helping her get through the situation, Aaron starts pressuring her, manipulating her trust and words about love. I didn't know that disrespect for partners' feelings is now considered romantic.
And there are enough such examples in different books. This society needs a powerful therapy to at least start seeing women as people.
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