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bittersweetresilience · 6 months
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the designers
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the runaways
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the ones who create
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the ones who decay
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the lovers
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the halves of a whole
a short incoherent compilation of parallels between marinette and adrien and gabriel and émilie. i'm also thinking about the ones who make choices and the sacrificial lambs but for now have these.
inspired by @anna-scribbles! happy thirteen day!
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bellzsad · 7 months
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we definitely need to talk about chat noir/adrien attempting to commit.
like this boy was already thinking about doing it before the events of the episode "guiltrip" even began, because the guiltrip amplified emotions. OUR CINAMMON ROLL WAS SUFFERING SO MUCH.
it breaks my heart.
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flightfoot · 1 year
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Doesn’t Chat Noir attempt to unalive himself in Guiltrip though? Implying he is fully aware that Cataclysm is a fatal attack. We need to stop making excuses for Adriens emotional outbursts leading to attempted murder.
He says later on in the seasons that he doesn't know what Cataclysm will do. He definitely tried to harm himself, I don't know whether he actually knew it was fatal though.
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rosie-b · 1 year
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I think the bottom right picture in the Adrinette compilation is from S4 when they go looking for Juleka in the basement/boiler room. I have no idea what the episode was called but it's the one with Rose getting her miraculous, and Chat being suicidal and unreasonably buff. (Guilt trip?)
That sounds right (espescially the suicidal, buff Chat part lol)! @lady-de-mon-coeur said the picture looked like it was from Guiltrip, too, so I’m going to trust you guys, and maybe give that episode a rewatch!
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ML French dub/English sub: S4E11 - Culpabysse (Guiltrip)
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dedahblog · 2 years
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I have a question for all the nerdy ml fans like myself
What are your theories regarding Rose's illness ?
I bet it's mucoviscidosis/ cystic fibrosis for multiple reasons
1) Juleka said it was a congenital disease
A rare, genetic pulmonary disorder characterized by sweat, thick mucus secretions causing multisystem disease, chronic infections of the lungs, bulky diarrhea and short stature.
Abnormal chloride channel function causes high salt content sweat and highly viscous mucus secretions. 
2) She has to go to hospital multiple times and cystic fibrosis causes recurent pneumonia.
3) She is shorter than the rest of her class. On the symptomes is short stature.
4) Cystic fibrosis is the most common genetic disorder among Caucasians
It was mediatized a lot in France :
A famous singer in the 2000s, Gregory Lemarchal who won a talent tv show, died in his early twenties
Famous and influential musician in 70s Michel Berger and Frances Gale had a daughter who died at the age of 19
( They split up afterwards because France wanted to retire from singing and Michel wanted to put his sorrows in his songs but that's an other story)
Before the late 2000s, patients with mucoviscidosis usually died in their early twenties, but hopefully thanks to science progress, ->
Lung disease is the main driver of morbidity and mortality. However, non-specific treatments improved the expectation of life at birth to more than 35 years, and with the advent of CFTR modulator therapy life expectancy has increased to nearly 50 year
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However, children from third world nations don't have the same opportunies unfortunately so the last part doesn't concern them, I guess.
Anyway, I'm glad ML characters are forever stuck in their 14-15, I don't need drama.
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chatonnoir · 2 years
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putting my ladynoir clown wig on real tight. ladybug is going to get hit by the pig miraculous power in Ep 4 - Jubilation and both she and Monarch are going to think it’s all over for her and that her identity is finally going to be revealed by her gift (basically like Wishmaker 2.0), only for this image to appear
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Ladybug is convinced that it’s WRONG and the pig miraculous’ power was clearly altered by Monarch!!!!! He’s trying to get in to her head!!!!!!!! Meanwhile Monarch is tired of these goddamn horny teenagers
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rainbow-arrow · 1 year
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idk why but how they’re divided is just. it’s so good. i could (might) write an essay on this later
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As much as I don’t like Thomas Astruc, he is an amazing representation of the average writer
Thomas: This is Adrien, my favorite character that I created. I love him more than anything in this world and I will defend him from his haters no matter what
Also Thomas: *Puts Adrien through the fucking wringer like every other episode and starts making him actively suicidal in some cases*
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guiltrip bubbles: adrienette edition :)
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alishasnoidea · 1 year
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permission to cataclysm gabriel's other arm?
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campbells-content · 1 year
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I'm on guilttrip rn, which is one of the few eps ive seen before. I am watchin it on Disney plus and i kinda feel like they cut Juleka's lil nuzzle in the subway. That was there right? I didn't imagine it right? Anyways, Julerose cannon, they literally have the same color scheme.
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heidi891 · 9 months
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Rewatching ML Season 4
Truth: Luka is fed up with Marinette lying to him. Ladybug is put under a truth spell and says that she appreciates Chat Noir’s courage, confidence and jokes. Chat Noir says he’s only that happy with her.
Lies: Marinette watches TV program about Adrien and says his life is awesome, even though sometimes he looks bored or sad. Adrigami scenes. Kagami wants to draw Adrien and says that neither his model poses nor Chat Noir pose is really him. She wants him to be more natural and vulnerable. A few times they almost kiss, but Adrien has to go to help Ladybug. Kagami is fed up with Adrien’s lies. More: Luka vs Adrien and Kagami vs Ladybug. Chat Noir sacrifices himself again.
Gang of Secrets: Ladybug and Chat Noir go to the cinema. Ladybug is frustrated with her love life and doesn’t want to talk about it neither with Chat Noir nor her friends. Marinette is fed up with lying and finally tells Alya that she’s Ladybug.
Mr Pigeon 72: Adrien brought Plagg a big bag full of cheese. He’s “lucky” his father is neglectful, otherwise he would take him to psychologist. Marinette, why are you so stupid (again). Adrien is turned into a pigeon. Adrien is so focused on Marinette that he hits his head when getting in the car.
Furious Fu: —
Sole Crusher: Hi, Zoé. Marinette is short with Chat Noir like Ladybug.
Queen Banana: Chloé wants to be a film star. Adrien wants her to apologise, but she refuses.
Guiltrip: Adrienette moment, Adrien makes googly eyes at Marinette. There’s a pink background, but it’s hard to say if it’s just Marinette who sees her friend this way—it looks like Adrien does too! He comforts Juleka. Chat Noir tries to kill himself. Adrien mocks Chloé.
Optigami: Marinette and Adrien are stuck together in the lift during Akuma attack and they almost reveal themselves.
Sentibubbler: —
Rocketear: Nino thinks Alya’s in love with Chat Noir. Nino tells Adrien that he and Alya are superheroes. Adrien is taken aback that Ladybug let them know their true identities and is worried that Ladybug doesn’t trust him. Nino says Ladybug thinks Chat Noir is disgusting. Adrien is sad during transformation.
Wishmaker: Adrien doesn’t know what he wants to do in the future and says he’s a model now just because his father asked told him to. Marinette and Luka notice Adrien is sad. Adrien again makes googly eyes at Marinette. Luka learns Ladybug and Chat Noir’s true identities. Adrien says that as a child he wanted only to fulfill his parents’ wishes.
Mega Leech: Adrien is shocked to see that his father lied to him about the advertisment. Gabriel treats Adrien’s image as his possession. Adrien is sad and angry. He takes Marinette’s hand during the protest. Chat Noir is possessed by the villain. Adrien notices Marinette is fascinated with the advertisment and isn’t sure what to make of it. Gabriel is angry at Adrien for joining the protest and sends him to his room, touching the wedding ring.
Simpleman: Adrien calls Marinette and asks her to fix a wing that he needs for a photo session. When I watched this for the first time, I thought he genuinely needed her help, but now I think he uses this as an excuse to see her (this isn’t his job to find somebody to fix the wing). Ladybug and Chat Noir almost give the villain their Miraculouses in exchange for sweets.
Dearest Family: Where did Gabriel get the amulet from? I guess my Disney+ has the wrong order of the episodes again. Tikki has an eating disorder. We can see a glimpse of her true form. Gabriel’s talking about destroying the old world and creating a new one, but I don’t think he’s the best source of information about how the wish works.
Crocoduel: Congratulations, Gabriel, Jagged Stone who abandoned his children for years is a better father than you. Chat Noir flirts with every new girl in the team.
Glaciator 2: Ladybug is angry at Chat Noir for his constant declarations of love and throws him in the garbage. Adrien decides to change. He’s sad and cries in the park. Marinette unsuccessfully tries to cheer him up. Gabriel almost sends an Akuma to Adrien, but when he notices it’s his son he stops the Akuma. Gabriel tries to talk to Adrien, but their conversation isn’t going anywhere. Chat Noir is destroying the billboards. How much cheese has he had to take with him? He doesn’t have any bag with him, does he have to go to a shop on every street? I love these Marichat scenes. I want to see Adrien being as sarcastic as Chat Noir here.
Hack-San: Marinette is in a hurry, but she should think about telling Chat Noir she’s leaving Paris. Chat Noir again feels that Ladybug doesn’t trust him. Sincere Ladynoir conversation.
Gabriel Agreste: Adrien brings ill Nathalie a meal and tries to talk to her about his problems. Adrien is compared to an imprisoned princess and Marinette—to a knight. Does Félix suspect that the wedding ring is Adrien’s Amok and try to protect him? Kagami and Félix don’t seem to like each other. Or this is how Félix reacts when he likes somebody. I thought Gabriel tried to kill Félix, but the Akuma goes to the fake wedding ring. OK, so this episode should be before Dearest Family. Félix is now sure that Gabriel created Senti-Gabriel and that he has the Peacock Miraculous.
Ephemeral: Gabriel’s touching his wedding ring when he’s telling Adrien to replace him at the conference. Su-Han tells Ladybug that she should know Chat Noir’s true identity. Marinette cannot believe that Chat Noir is really Adrien. It’s too early for the true reveal: Marinette needs to appreciate Chat Noir too. Marichat needs to happen. Again, neither the reveal nor Adrienette aren’t really problems, it’s the relationship between Adrien and Gabriel: Adrien loves him, but Gabriel is ready to hurt him to achieve his goal. Gabriel’s touching his wedding ring when he’s forcing Adrien to be Akumatised. More: The Reveal & Adrinette. OK, so the Kwamis confirm that the wish destroys the world and recreates it.
Psycomedian: The girls say there’s no love without friendship. Adrien again makes googly eyes at Marinette. Marinette, don’t listen to this clown. This time it’s Ladybug who falls victim to the villain and Chat Noir has to help her.
Qilin: —
Kuro Neko: Adrien feels left out by Ladybug. He gives up his ring and then changes his whole personality to be the Cat she wants him to be. But it’s not the Cat she needs. Plagg says Adrien can be serious around his father and Nathalie, so it’s sad that Ladybug wants him to be like that too. Ladybug says she knows Chat Noir very well while mistaking him for the Sentimonster. Plagg says Adrien is both Adrien and Chat Noir.
Penalteam: Adrien can’t play football.
Risk: Adrien says he doesn’t want to be a model and tells Lila he doesn’t want to listen to her lies. Gabriel wants to send Adrien away. Adrienette moment. Adrien says that it’s like an invisible force stopped him from telling his father he didn’t want to be a model. Félix says he wants to save Adrien.
Strike Back: Ladybug mistakes Félix for Adrien. If she knew Chat Noir’s true identity, she wouldn’t make that mistake. Or if Chat Noir intervened. Félix quietly says that he’s sorry and he betrays the heroes, but in the context of season 5 I can see he isn’t totally evil and selfish. Chat Noir stands by Ladybug and comforts her.
Previous: Rewatching ML Season 3
Next: ML Season 5
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flightfoot · 1 year
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Yeah I think what he tried to do in guiltrip would categorically be self harm but not necessarily more than that, in terms of his thought process. (Which is probably also why ladybug said “no, if we turn into reflekta,”— because if he did that, that is what would happen, plus pain, not death- after miraculer they both know what cataclysm does to chat noir even if they don’t know what it’d do to anyone else)
Oh yeah, that's true. Miraculer did happen before Guiltrip, so they had seen Chat Noir Cataclysmed before, though I'm not sure Ladybug ever knew that was why he was injured. He kinda tried to keep it on the down-low that episode.
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anna-scribbles · 1 year
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will you make a poll for most slay and ugly senti designs. i really think guiltrip deserves to be honored somehow. perhaps an honorable mention if reflekta wins either category.
LOVE the way you’re thinking. honestly this process has made me desperate to know the ml fandom’s opinions on everything
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lady-de-mon-coeur · 9 months
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As I mentioned it earlier, I was going to do my ranking of ML episodes, because why not? So here it is.
My way of ranking is different from the others', bc how on earth am I supposed to rank episodes of the show where I really love every single episode? So I decided to go the easy route and ranked them by how many times I watched them.
Disclaimer: episodes in groups III-IV aren't the worst by any means! They're all good. It's just that I don’t rewatch them that often.
Feel free to ask for my comments about this or that episode.
Bestest of the best
Origins Part 1-2
Glaciator
Chat Blanc
New York special
Ephemeral
Elation
I
Simon Says
Prime Queen
The Dark Owl
Gorizilla
Frightingale
Troublemaker
Weredad
Silencer
Oblivio
Reflekdoll
Psycomedian
Glaciator 2
Hack-San
Wishmaker
Kuro Neko
Risk
Strike Back
Determination
Transmission
Derision
II
Lady WiFi
Antibug
Stormy Weather
The Evillustrator
Befana
Zombizou
Syren
Riposte
Bakerix
Shanghai special
Kwamibuster
Timetagger
Truth
Lies
Gang of Secrets
Mr Pigeon 72
Furious Fu
Simpleman
Illusion
Protection
Revolution
Migration
Deflagration
Emotion
Recreation
Pretension
III
The Pharaoh
Mr Pigeon
The Bubbler
Copycat
Dark Cupid
Kung Food
Christmas Special
Gigantitan
Frozer
Reverser
Sandboy
Malediktator
Stormy Weather 2
The Puppeteer 2
Feast
Ladybug
Miraculer
Félix
Party Crasher
Gamer 2.0
Gabriel Agreste
Crocoduel
Optigami
Mega Leech
Sentibubbler
Rocketear
Qilin
Dearest Family
Penalteam
Perfection
Reunion
Passion
Representation
Intuition
Jubilation
Destruction
Collusion
Evolution
Multiplication
Conformation
IV
Timebreaker
Rogercop
Horrificator
Darkblade
The Mime
Gamer
Animan
The Puppeteer
Reflekta
Guitar Villain
Pixelator
Princess Fragrance
Volpina
Robostus
Anansi
Sapotis
Despair Bear
Captain Hardrock
The Collector
Style Queen
Queen Wasp
Catalyst
Mayura
Chameleon
Backwarder
Animaestro
Oni-Chan
Desperada
Startrain
Ikari Gozen
Christmaster
Heart Hunter
Miracle Queen
Sole Crusher
Queen Banana
Guiltrip
Adoration
Revelation
Confrontation
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