Behind the jokes and badassness, Captain Marvel is a fascinating character to me, because of how death follows her.
She causes an explosion. That explosion, which gives her powers and her immortality, canonically kills her. The Kree Empire resurrects her and makes her as Kree as they can. She shares Yon-Rogg's blood and his life, she's his creation, she's his victim, she's the one who causes his downfall, she's the one that destroys the system, the society, the planet that allowed her to be abused.
It's the Kree that see her as a killer and Annihilator. She's a monster of their own making, but it influences every species and planet she touches. Her victories cause death and her mistakes cause more death. Carol's triumph, the death of the Supreme Intelligence, results in the death of probably millions of Kree, and by consequence, almost causes the death of Hala's star.
"I'm only human" Carol says, before killing the Empire that is the reason that she can't ever be human again.
"We'll be back for the weapon," Ronan says, but that weapon will kill everything he stands for.
"Your life began the day it nearly ended," The Supreme Intelligence says, coldly, calculatingly. It's an AI. It doesn't have a good concept of death. It doesn't fully grasp that Carol had genuinely been killed that day, because she's still in front of it. Carol kills it.
"Death seems to follow you," Dar-Benn says, before she causes an explosion with the bangles, trying to defeat Carol. The explosion kills Dar-Benn.
Death follows Carol. Death follows Carol! Mar-Vell is dead. Maria is dead. Talos is dead. Soren is dead. Ronan is dead. Minn-Erva is dead. Korath is dead. Dar-Benn is dead. Yon-Rogg is, probably, dead. The Supreme Intelligence is dead. Natasha is dead. Tony is dead.
The only people in Carol's life who aren't dead are Kamala, Monica, Yan, Valkyrie, and Fury.
She watches helplessly as Dar-Benn almost murders Kamala after Kamala tries to save Dar-Benn's life, tries to find a way to solve the violence without death.
She watches helplessly as Monica gets torn into another reality, which for all she knows, she could die in. The tear in reality that was caused by Dar-Benn's death.
She tries to hide Yan's existence from her friends and tries to warn him and his people. The Kree soldiers aren't fighting to maim, they're fighting to kill. He escapes death by his own fighting skills and the fact that the Kree would rather focus on killing Carol than him.
Valkyrie and Carol interact once, and she only calls when she needs help after a fight, not during. Think about it. Valkyrie and the Bifrost could have helped the trio enormously. But Carol doesn't call until the fights are over. It would be very easy for a regular Asgardian warrior to die compared to superhumans.
And Fury... have you seen how often Fury comes close to dying? He's alive from skill and luck. He is lucky that he isn't dead.
Captain Marvel is so, so fascinating. Her story begins with her own death, and the more it goes on, the more death happens around her. Nobody is safe. She causes almost all of them, even the ones of her friends - not directly, but through the consequences of her actions. The consequences of her victories and mistakes. The consequences of her anger and revenge, her power and powerlessness. It is caused by both the Human and Kree sides of her, by both Carol and Vers, Captain Marvel and the Annihilator.
Carol is immortal. She can't die. And death follows her anyway.
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Something I realized awhile ago is Carol in Captain Marvel (2019) is probably so emotionless because of what the Kree did. Parts of her were missing/locked away which would affect her moods and personality. She’s more direct and soldierly. That starts to fade away when she realizes where she came from.
Now in The Marvels (2023), Carol is shows a lot more emotion even in scenes where it’s just her and Goose. She’s not as closed off and she’s more mature with her emotions (like reflecting on her feelings and then apologizes for snapping at Kamala). We learn later she’s been trying to recover her memories which would definitely allow her personality to show through in this movie. We also see her be a bit awkward with emotions around people, and that’s probably due to her still holding herself to a “soldier” standard and being fairly isolated in space. She’s more comfortable with Valkyrie and Fury and later on Monica and Kamala.
This was definitely character development and I don’t think Brie Larson should’ve played the character any differently in either movie. We’re supposed to see two different characters here. In Captain Marvel, it was Vers for the most part until her story is revealed. In The Marvels, it was Carol Danvers/Captain Marvel.
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The Marvels spoilers ahead
I went to see The Marvels again and I had some thoughts about ValCarol as they have taken up a lot of my mind.
Carol immediately went to hug Val when she got there, needing that comfort from her friend (possibly more than) and I really liked that scene between them. Val held her hands and gave her words of encouragement and it was so sweet! Val even had a nickname for Carol but I did find it interesting that it was her hero name and not her actually name.....I wonder why that is.
Val was so soft and patient with Carol and I wonder if she wants something more with Carol but maybe knows or thinks that she's not quite ready for that, a romantic relationship.
Or maybe they do have something more but haven't put a name on it or made anything official....I dunno
Carol hasn't at that point fixed her relationship with Monica and was still trying to fix/deal the situation she caused with the Skrull/Kree. So even tho she's lonely, I wonder if she thinks she isn't ready for love, either romantically or from family. She's just a little lost and vulnerable and it was an interesting character arc thing...I don't know what to call it.
Or I'm just spouting possible headcanons and just wanted to talk about them cuz I lost it during that scene with them. Ohmigoodness! I was so excited when Val showed up cuz I've seen in the past some like teasers for a ValCarol ship but didn't think it would go anywhere and then it possible did and I lost it!
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I just watched the marvels and I am shook
Some notes under the cut cause wowzers I could talk about this for hours
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Okay I love love love the ladies relationship
A family can be a princess who married for tax purposes, a teen who writes fan fiction and a captain who can phase through walls and who’s aunt is a princess
ALSO VALCAROL TOO HOLY SHIT THE KISS
I HOPE THEY MEET AGAIN BECAUSE HOLY I LOVE THEMMM
Literally Kamala is me every single time she meets a hero
I LOVE MONICA RAMBEAU SHES SOO COOL
I love Monica nerding out and having to simplify everything for everyone
PRINCESS CAROL MY BELOVED
Okay I find it so cool that there was a whole planet that communicated through song (theatre kids would thrive there)
“He’s bilingual” I HOWLED THIS WAS HILARIOUS
LITERALLY KAMALA AND HER FAMILY ARE SO PRECIOUS
Prince yan my beloved tooo
GOOSE AND THE KITTIES OH MY GOD
WHEN MEMORIES STARTED PLAYING I WAS CRYING WITH LAUGHTER
MONICA’S SACRIFICE I CRIED SO HARD
BUT HOLY SHIT THE XMEN WHATTT
Monica’s deadpan “shit” was hilarious
MY JAW DROPPED
ALSO KAMALA AND KATE LETS GOOOOOO
Kamala being Fury’s Protégée I love love love that
Oh my god I love this film sm it was so good
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i am like actively so ill about the way shameless highlights generational trauma and parallels between abusive family members. ian exhibiting the same manic / depressive episodes as monica makes me so sick and unnormal. debbie immediately responding to mickey saying “yes, we know what this is.” because it’s something they’ve dealt with all their life and now their brother is going through it. their brother that they love is beginning to resemble their abusive mother through no fault of his own and it’s sick and twisted and amazing writing.
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