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jakelcckley · a day ago
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No, I am definitely, certainly, unquestionably, undeniably, and beyond any doubt not a simp.
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mknightgrant · a month ago
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tiny and excited fist of vengeance!
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gucciboots · a month ago
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Episode 5 spoilers!
Back in my thoughts again, you know the drill. A bit lengthy!!
I cannot stop thinking about this scene—how Steven clearly remembers that this was his room,
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And how he remembers the exact thing he said during this part of the scene, which proves that he was, in fact, in control for at least a couple seconds.
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BUT. He doesn’t remember anything from this moment forward. That’s why he wanted to see what their mother did to them, and that’s why Marc was set on getting him out of the room before he saw something that would severely taint his memories and what he knew of their childhood. At the same time, Marc knows EXACTLY what happened.
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I’m positive that Steven dissociated at that moment and Marc took over. In general, he didn’t want Steven to remember what truly happened. It’s his way of making up to Randall/RoRo, I would like to believe. He treats Steven like the younger brother that he lost when he was a child. The one who loved drawing the one finned fish. The one who was always eager for adventure. The one who was screaming for help back in the cave.
Remember? His mother explicitly stated:
“Marc, what do you do? Keep an eye on your brother, okay?” And Marc is set on fulfilling that promise to Steven.
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Marc let Steven keep all the good memories, while he himself lived through all of the bad ones, just so that he could protect him from getting hurt and feeling pain. Steven, his alter, who he considers to be his little brother.
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That’s the reason why Marc was so adamant about simply telling Steven what had happened in that room at the top of the flight of stairs, so Steven wouldn’t have to watch the memory play out in front of him. Seeing what happened would definitely hurt more than just knowing what happened. By telling Steven himself, he would have control over what he would reveal to him, and how he would tell him.
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That’s why Marc’s first thought when waking up in the Asylum was Steven. That’s why Marc never complained about fronting right after Steven was pierced by the weapons back in Mogart’s. That’s why Marc probably set up a line for Steven to contact “his mother”, and why Marc replaced Gus with another fish. That’s why Marc didn’t want Steven finding out about him in the first place.
Marc spent most of his life protecting and saving Steven the way he wished he could’ve protected and saved Randall. I am literally bawling over this.
Also ending this with another appreciation for Oscar Isaac because he’s a damn legend for the breathtaking portrayal of Steven AND Marc. He better earn awards for this series or I will riot.
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fitzs-br1dg3t · a month ago
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#MoonKnight theory:
The reason Layla never knew about Steven was because she was the only thing that made Marc happy. There was no need for Steven to come out and absorb any pain.
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the-archxr · 17 days ago
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hi!!! can i put a request in: going to sleep with the mk boys? love your writing style bae <33
awe thank you 🥺
also fuCK I’m yearning, this shit is too. good.
MARC - so I feel like it’s the presumption that Marc has insomnia, or at least has an incredibly difficult time falling asleep. and it’s not like Steven, where he wants to be awake. Marc desperately wants to get some fucking rest, it’s just his body betrays him. yet somehow, some way, that’s never the case when you’re with him. like if lavender and other sleepy scents were a person; it’d be you. he could be hyped up on caffeine and sugar, and would still effortlessly fall asleep beside/on you. it starts with you in bed first, and then some time around 1 in the morning (cause he still likes to stay up and watch tv or some shit), Marc finally joins you. you’re asleep by the time he settles behind you, though he considers you have a sixth sense, because you’re always waking up just a little to roll over to face him. the two of you cuddle like that: limbs intertwined with your faces nearly pressed together. BONUS: Marc always places his hand overtop your heart to assure himself that you’re still alive and there with him.
STEVEN - now Steven is actually incredibly similar to marc in the sense that he needs to be wrapped up in you; it’s just his execution is a lil’ different. regardless that Steven has come to terms with Marc and is no longer afraid of staying up, he still slips back into those old habits. he tries to stay awake as much as possible, though his efforts prove to be worthless because he’s the type of person that can fall asleep anywhere and everywhere. on your shoulder on the trolley? happened more times than he can count. curled up in his chair at his desk? absolutely. standing up in the kitchen as he’s burning your eggs? all. the. time. though his favourite way to fall asleep is with you on the couch: underneath him with his head stuffed in the crook of your neck, and your arms around his back. Steven Grant is the big spoon that wants nothing more than to be engulfed by you, and you have no problem with that.
JAKE - so contrary to popular belief, I like to think that Jake is incredibly affection, and actually loves being romantic (with the right person, of course). Just like—besides him straight up having no threshold of “oh no, murders wrong”—he’s actually quite put together. He’s far more responsible than both Marc and Steven combined; very much aware of routines, what’s needed and what’s missing (especially when Steven forgets to buy milk for the third day in a row). So I like to think that when he’s not out working for Khonshu, he actually has a decent sleep schedule. He goes to bed roughly the same time every night, and wakes up no later than 8:30 every morning. But, his main rule is he will not go to sleep without you, and he will not leave the bed in the morning until you’re both awake. He’s extremely protective in the sense that he needs to know exactly where you are when he goes to sleep and when he wakes up. especially since he knows anything can happen when he’s unconscious. which is why he needs to be touching you, similar to Marc. either he’s holding you from behind: your frame tucked into his, or when your on your stomach, his arm will be under your pillow, with your leg draped over his. he just needs you to be as close as possible.
✨the-archxr thoughts✨
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fdelopera · a month ago
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An Autistic Perspective on Moon Knight (or, Why Steven Grant is not the only autistic alter)
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Sooo Moon Knight really hit me hard. Especially as an autistic person. It hit me so hard, in fact, that it’s brought me back from my Tumblr hiatus. (I haven’t posted since 2018? what???) It was euphoric for me to see an autistic character operate as a superhero within the MCU. Especially Steven. Though Marc and Jake are also autistic — we’ll get to that.
Steven Grant as the audience surrogate wasn’t written as autistic in Jeremy Slater’s original script for the series, but Oscar Isaac took one look at him and basically said, “I’ll relate to this guy more if he’s on the spectrum.” As an autistic person, I actually love that. This choice doesn’t feel exploitative to me, like Rain Man does, for instance; instead, it feels like I’m being seen. I found it meaningful hearing Oscar Isaac say that part of his way into figuring out this role was through delving into a character who happens to be on the spectrum.
I will say that at least to my eye, Oscar Isaac has created a reasonably authentic on-screen portrayal of an autistic character, at least compared to the typical overblown Sheldon Cooper-style of characterization. It is also amazing to see an autistic superhero who is capable, courageous, and strong, even in their most vulnerable moments. Too often, we are portrayed in media as being incapable of having agency within our own lives.
So, in the future, I want to rewatch Moon Knight and analyze the scenes that were particularly impactful for me from the perspective of autistic experience.
But for this post, I want to talk about autism within the context of trauma and mental health. There is an important distinction to be made between Autism Spectrum Disorder and DID in relation to this show, and I haven’t seen a lot of people discussing it in depth.
I want to preface this by saying that I am diagnosed autistic as well as having a dissociative disorder, but I am not a system, so my analysis of Moon Knight comes from an autistic standpoint.
I do not want to speak over or for any systems.
I am writing this analysis because I believe that an autistic perspective can add some context to certain crucial aspects of this show.
I also want to acknowledge that there is a high degree of co-occurrence between autism and dissociative conditions, including DID. The extreme and constant overwhelm caused by our autistic neurology can lead to dissociative coping mechanisms.
For example, in addition to being autistic, I have Depersonalization-Derealization Disorder, which stems from my sensory processing and social processing issues. Ever since childhood, I dissociate when my nervous system gets too jangled and I’m unable to process the chaos of the world around me.
If Steven Is Autistic, So Are Marc and Jake (and here's why):
I've been seeing a lot of people online celebrating Steven as an autistic character, as in, “Steven Grant is the MCU’s first canonically autistic superhero!” Now, don’t get me wrong, Steven totally is a well-portrayed autistic character; however, I haven’t seen very many people involving Marc and Jake within that discussion of on-screen portrayals of autism.
But if Steven is meant to be on the spectrum, Marc and Jake should be recognized as being on the spectrum as well.
To treat Steven as the only alter who is autistic can inadvertently raise the specter (pun intended) of a harmful and outdated theory on the cause of autism.
So, I want to address two questions: What does (and doesn’t) cause autism? And why are Marc and Jake also on the spectrum if Steven is?
1. Autism Is Epigenetic:
Autism is a genetically inherited neurological variation. It is epigenetic, meaning that there are both genetic and environmental factors that affect each individual’s experience of autism, but you can’t “become” autistic without the genetic factors being present. And if you do have the epigenetic makeup for autism, it is likely that you will have some degree of autistic experience. We still don’t know exactly what this epigenetic makeup is, and I for one hope that we never find out, because Autism $peaks is ready with pitchforks and a eugenics campaign to remove us from humanity as soon as this discovery is made.
Autism’s etiology is not trauma-based. In other words, traumatic experiences can’t “make” someone autistic. However, back in the 1940s, Freudian psychiatrists Bruno Bettelheim and Leo Kanner came up with the “refrigerator mother” theory of autism (they applied it to schizophrenia, as well). They believed that if a mother was neglectful or abusive towards a young child and withheld her love during a critical developmental period, she could cause her child to become autistic. They believed that autistic people could be “cured” of their autism with the right amount of psychoanalysis. These psychiatrists and their disciples subjected countless autistic people to this “treatment” (i.e., torture) for decades.
The "refrigerator mother" theory of autism (and schizophrenia) has since been disproven. The theory was finally rejected in the 1990s when studies of identical twins showed that autism has a high degree of heritability (current research shows that autism’s heritability may be as high as 90%). If you are autistic, the environment (i.e., the people, places, and things around you) will shape your experience of autism, but your environment alone can't “make” you autistic if you don’t have the genetic predisposition for it.
2. If a System Is Autistic, Each Alter Can Have a Unique Experience of Autism:
To frame all of this within the context of Moon Knight, Wendy Spector’s abuse couldn’t “cause” autism within Marc’s system. To put it more bluntly, trauma couldn’t “make” one alter autistic (i.e., Steven), while the rest of the system remained completely allistic.
I know that a lot of you know this; I’ve just seen some troubling posts about this online from people who are neither a system nor autistic, and I needed to say something. Steven isn’t “the MCU’s first canonically autistic superhero” — the system is.
If we describe Steven as autistic, it’s important to acknowledge Marc, Jake, and the other alters within the system as autistic, as well. They would each have their own unique experiences of autism.
Now, there is a whole other discussion to be had about whether the writers and directors of Moon Knight knew this (that’s a big topic for another time). However, my understanding from listening to Oscar Isaac’s interviews and watching his performance is that his intent was to portray the system as neurodivergent, and not just Steven.
As portrayed in the show, Steven seems to do the least amount of masking (i.e., learned behaviors that hide autistic traits in order to protect the individual from harm), which makes him “appear” more autistic to an outside observer.
Within Marc’s portrayal, he seems to have learned to mask more consistently (which would make sense, since he protects Steven), and so he behaves in a way that could be interpreted as more allistic.
As for Jake, it’s hard to tell his degree of masking, since we see him for only a few brief scenes. But extrapolating from his role as a protector in the system, it’s possible that he has learned to mask quite effectively, as well.
As we grow older, many of us autistics learn to mask quite convincingly, myself included. Masking is exhausting, and I hate it, but for me it is what is necessary to have a job. A few people that I work with know that I’m autistic, but most don’t, and I’m careful about who I tell. It also helps that I run my own business, and so I have some say in the clients that I choose to work with.
In the future, I want to talk about scenes from the series that spoke to me as an autistc person, and I'll include Steven, Marc, and Jake in that analysis. There are so many moments where Oscar Isaac makes character choices that resonate with me from an autistic perspective. But that’s for another time. Anyway, thank you for coming to my Ted Talk. :P
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moonknight201 · a month ago
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I just realised that he has a moon in his eyes when he's about to transform into moon knight😍
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oliver-do-the-twist · a month ago
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Idk this might just be me but does anyone else just not see Oscar Isaac when he's playing Steven? Like yeah, he looks like Oscar but he doesn't look like Oscar. I am just in awe of how intricately and thoroughly Oscar has played this silly little Londoner so much that he compleatly transforms into literally another person
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When I see this my brain is like this is ONLY Steven, it's impossible for this to be anyone else
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macabredanza · 2 months ago
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Dreamt that Jake Lockley and Layla had a very civilized conversation about where Steven and Marc went, and Lockley sounded so much like a 50 year old guy who reads too much philosophy 🤡💀
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cheshireo · 2 months ago
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I just watched Moon Knight and it was really cool ! But weirdly the thing that I thought the most during the episode is that it’s kinda sweet that Marc tried to replace the fish 😭 also I saw this , and if it’s true it’s so fucking sad and it reinforces the fact that Marc is trying to protect Steve 😭 (I don’t know the comics so don’t come at me pls ) but another thing that I noticed that could play in favor of this theory is that every time we see Steve calling his mom it’s sounds like he leaves a message not like a conversation you know ?
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jakelcckley · a day ago
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OSCAR HATED MOON KNIGHT AS MUCH AS WE HATED MARC, STEVEN, AND JAKE 😤 /jk
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mknightgrant · 19 days ago
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🍺+Moon boys<3
Sorry this took a while!! Here's my take on Drunk Moon Boys <3
🍺 : A drunk headcanon
Steven: Steven is an affectionate drunk for sure. He’s the type to turn down drinking in bars but say yes to having a couple glasses of wine at home with you. To be quite honest, he only drinks during social events, but it’s only ever a couple of sips before he’s retreating to his comfy apartment, away from the people he can barely consider to be his friends. He’s always feared the possibility of losing control, having heard the stories of other people becoming somewhat reckless and, well, horny when they’re under the influence. He also fears the possibility of becoming vulnerable in public.
With you, though, he lets himself go because he trusts you. He allows himself to become vulnerable, knowing that you wouldn’t pick at his weak spots or make fun of him if he starts crying out of the pure emotion of feeling loved by you. You make him feel safer than he’s ever felt before, and the alcohol makes him clingier, more affectionate, and a lot more touchy than he usually is. His head is nuzzled in your neck, and his arms are wrapped around you while he mumbles sweet nothings by your ear. He was very much touch-deprived before you, so a drunk Steven also entails cuddling and pawing at your waist when you move away, even by the slightest bit. Even on the nights when it’s pretty hot in the flat, you could never pass off the opportunity to have his body pressed up against yours in a cuddle. Sometimes it escalates into something more than a cuddle when he’s feeling particularly needy, but that’s a story for another time. 
Marc: When under the influence of alcohol, Marc laughs at everything and anything. The cheap bottles of beer you both decided to purchase that Friday night were doing quite the number on him, but in a good way. He laughed at the way the streetlights looked from afar as you walked back from the store, and he giggled at the mere sound of you having a good time. He also laughed at the way the glass looked, and the way the ice melted into the drink while you stirred it for him.
To say that his laughs were contagious would be quite the understatement since a small smile from you would cause him to giggle, and that giggle would cause you to laugh. The effect dominoes between the two of you, and it’s one of Marc’s happier core memories–to be seated with you on the floor in the middle of Steven’s flat, drinking and laughing at anything and everything under the sun. 
On most days, the laughter continues until you’re both too sleepy to function, and you fall asleep snuggled up against each other right then and there. Marc complains of a back pain and a headache the next day, but it’s a small price to pay, in his opinion. He’d never trade those nights out for anything else in the world. On the other hand, you were glad that he was laughing and letting go of the problems Khonshu had placed into his brain, and you were glad that the alcohol was enough to make him forget about them, even if only temporarily. 
Other days, the laughter dies out a little earlier than usual, and you two talk about more serious topics, such as his past, your past, and your future together. The jokes get placed aside for a deep heart-to-heart, and Marc appreciates how well you listen to him and how good of a partner you are. It always gets to a point when he’s sober enough to realize and acknowledge that you’re it for him, and he refuses to ever let you go. 
Jake: Jake? He’s a flirty drunk, but only with you. His mind seems to go into tunnel vision once the alcohol gets to him, and all he could ever focus on is you. All other thoughts seem to leave his brain once that happens, and he doesn’t seem to mind it at all, wanting to devote all his attention to you. 
It isn’t often that Jake shows his affectionate side, especially when you’re in public, but alcoholic drinks just flick a switch in him. He forgets that he isn’t openly affectionate with you when you aren’t in the safety of your apartment and their flat. You find it rather cute and endearing–how flirty he becomes under the influence. His pickup lines seem to get more and more risqué as the night grows old, but you don’t mind. 
Another thing you do notice, though, is the fact that he drank enough alcohol to make his brain all fuzzled and woozy, getting to the extent that he simply forgets that you’re already his. That’s what brings you both to this moment, with him against your front, pressing your back to the bar counter. To be fair, the place isn’t as populated as usual, given that it’s a Thursday night, and you would be rather aroused if the lines leaving his mouth weren’t so hilarious. 
“You have a boyfriend?” Jake slurs, his lip jutting out in a slight pout. The expression on his face is a stark difference from his looks, having donned a pair of leather gloves, a dark jacket, dark washed denim pants, and his usual newsboy hat. “Querida, I think you deserve someone better, no? Someone more worthy of your love? Of your time? Of your attention?” 
It’s funny that alcohol wipes the fact that you’re both together out of his brain, but it also warms your heart to know that even in the state he’s in, Jake Lockley chooses to flirt with you to win you over. 
“I don’t think your boyfriend could treat you as well as I could, hm?” 
“I think you’d be neck-in-neck, really, considering that you would have to compete with yourself, Jake.” 
“Hm? Already saying that I’ve won, huh?” He grinned, bringing his face closer to your neck and simply taking in your scent as his hands gripped your waist. “I like the way you think.” 
You can’t bring yourself to try and correct him again, so you just allow him to bathe in his so-called ‘achievement.’ You’ll be sure to tease him tomorrow, but for now, you’ll enjoy the affection he’s openly giving you. 
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gucciboots · 2 months ago
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Episode 4 spoilers warning!!! Play at your own risk
Back at it again! I wanna just …. Talk. About this scene.
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LIKE???? HELLO??? They’re both being played by the same actor and Oscar does such a fucking good job portraying Steven and Marc because you can tell who’s who by just LOOKING AT THEM??
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And here??? The stark difference between Steven’s open, flailing hands and Marc’s balled up fist and somewhat defensive stance??? How Steven backs away and Marc stays in place while looking at Taweret?
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And the little details like Steven grabbing the towels and messing them up because he doesn’t know how else to react and what to do?? 😭
THE DIFFERENCE IN THE PITCHES OF THEIR SCREAMS????
IM LOSING IT. OSCAR ISAAC NEVER FAILS TO AMAZE ME 🤍 bloody fucking genius with a shit load of talent!! Oscar Isaac supremacy.
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fitzs-br1dg3t · a month ago
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Marc saying "oh baby" as he runs up to Layla and hugs her and him holding her head like this im going FERAL #moonknight #marcspector #LaylaElFaouly
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The MCU isn't kidding around with the couple's this phase huh? We got Druig × Makkari and now, Layla & Marc.
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lost-diaries-system · a month ago
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Moon knight episode six thoughts from a system
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So we wanted to talk about this because episode 5 was very hard for us to watch and we didn't like the end. We interpreted it as if they were suggesting that for reaching peace/mental stability you needed to get rid of your alters/fusion which is not the case for everyone. Obviously we're not saying that it was the only message they were sending but we were kinda disappointed at that ending, mostly because one of our host reminds us of Steven so it was an unpleasant experience.
Anyway with this finale we are very very happy. Starting with Marc deciding to go back to Steven, he doesn't want "peace and stability" if this means staying without him. They are a team and they exist because they needed each other that was a Beautiful message that made me cry. I can't even imagine being separated from the others in our system, we're not besties, we're not a family but we work really hard to make us survive and we indisputably share a bond.
The other thing we liked was when they started talking together, in co con, with the Doctor. That was I think the first time that they showed it and it was a sign of good communication in the system. Marc and Steven acknowledged that they need each other and they can take turns in the body without hurting themselves, that was great, that felt real. It was nice to hear them talking together because that's how it works for us too.
Another good thing that felt real was at the end, Marc waking up and asking to Steven "you there?" And he's like "yep". That's our everyday life, a representation of a small moment that made us feel "hey they are like us, they're doing our same thing!" And it was great. I know there's a lot of criticism about moon knight and system but we personally loved to see ourselves in the screen, something like showing small everyday things as a system gave us so much joy.
"They're like us, we're like them, we're represented" it's so important to feel these things for those like us that are often portrayed as the "monsters".
That's it, thank you Moon knight. -Zed
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harleytudinous · a month ago
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Moon Knight EP06 Thought
So we all know this is Jake saving their life yet again but like the bloody scarab in ep1 its a spine chilling moment for me.
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Right before that Marc and Layla both tried to break the cane but failed. It's an ancient magical cane imbued with power after all.
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Then Jake took over and broke the cane into 3 like its just a flimsy wooden stick and obliterated Harrow and all his followers at the same time. I was like ( ;ↀ⌓ↀ) Ok...I know Jake is strong but I didn't expect him to be that OP!
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My only guess is Jake got a special power that Marc didn't have. Like Khonshu's ability to dematerialize himself and move really fast? (He's the golden child after all heh)
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I don't know if Layla saw what happened I kinda think she didn't because she's like wth instead of wow. What Jake did must happen in a very short time. If Marc and Steven are the bright side of the moon Jake must be the dark side that no one sees... ���(・_├┬┴┬┴
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moonknight201 · a month ago
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thevibraniumveterans · 2 months ago
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Went on a small not-quite rant this weekend responding to a valid viewpoint about Marc and Layla’s breakup.
One of my group chat mates had stated:
“Yk i think we could do so much better if layla and marc's breakup was written better. When layla said- "i Dont want protection, i want honesty", as a way to establish why marc betrayal hurt her and Steven is better for her, i was like honey, reallllyyyy?! Do you realise what khonsu could do your mind+getting involved in the whole scarab hunt could straightup kill you+steven is cute but maybe deal with your divorce first? Like how do you fall out of love with Marc like that? I get that layla deserved to know the situation but that's not a good enough reason to breakup. More than anything i want a conversation bw both about the same. A proper breakup with palpable reasons. If i were layla i would eventually get back with marc cuz he did all that to protect me and offered to divorce me cuz he himself was partaking in lethal missions.”
She had a point! It’s valid, and I understand it. However, I respectfully disagree:
I'm not convinced Marc broke up with Layla. As far as I'm convinced, he still loves her. It's just that he can't really put forth his emotions, so due to whatever past trauma that led him to create Steven, Steven can handle all the emotions Marc can't. I am aware that Marc was pushing Layla away, not because he doesn't like her, he does! A lot! He loves her! But he wants her to be safe. Like I've said, she's only human, and therefore vulnerable. She can take care of herself just fine, hence “I don't need protection", but that's the thing, isn't it? She's just human. Marc has endured far worse. Why on this great green earth would he want her to experience what he has experienced?
Out of concern for her safety, Marc emotionally distances himself his wife because he knows Khonshu will pick her to be the next Avatar. Because Layla is the love of Marc’s life, Layla has inadvertently become some kind of a liability. Marc’s weak link. To him, if he severed that link, then therefore Layla is safe. It pained Marc, I’m sure, to hand his wife the divorce papers. I don’t think the divorce actually went through (“You sent these papers but you never signed them,” Layla says to who she thought was Marc (but was actually Steven) in Ep 2). Because when Marc confronts Steven in the tent and says, “Are you in love with my wife?”, Marc doesn’t say ex-wife. Remember Ep3, when Marc sees Layla in danger? He’s got that “touch her, and I’ll kill you so hard your ancestors wish they were never born” look in his eyes. Marc isn’t selfish. If anything, he’s selfless.
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Marc’s desire to protect Layla stemmed from his guilty conscience over his inability to save her father. He wants to protect her in the only way he knows how - by emotionally distancing himself from her. I don’t think it’s bad writing because Marc and Layla have not broken up. There is so much evidence they still love each other, just not in the typical couples way where they’re all lovey-dovey over each other, and this is exactly where, and when, Steven comes in. Steven embodies everything Layla loves about Marc, hence why she falls for him. She likes so many of the same things he likes, hence why Steven falls in love with her. Steven falling in love with Layla can represent a scenario under which Marc wished he had fallen in love with Layla.
Marc’s entire relationship with Layla was formed solely because he wanted her to be okay. He had nearly died, and was resurrected by Khonshu and served under him, and so, by doing all these dangerous things, Layla wanted to be with Marc wherever he went. But for an ordinary but strong woman like Layla to be involved with powers beyond her grasp, Marc does not want any of that harsh life for Layla. He loves her so much, but he can’t deal with her being his emotional liability. It’s not that she’s getting in his way, he feels that the best way she can stay safe is to be emotionally distant from him. And I feel like there’s been some subtle character development for Marc all this time that Steven’s been in the driver’s seat. Let’s revisit that tent scene-
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Marc stated point-blank, “I wish I could just disappear, I really do.” You know why he feels that way? He knows he carries the guilty conscience of not being able to save Layla’s dad. He wishes he could just disappear so he wouldn’t have to deal with this. It sounds harsh, but that’s why Steven’s here, isn’t he? Marc also tells Steven, “If you're gonna go through with this, you gotta be smart, for Layla's sake.” Marc loves Layla, that much is clear. Since Steven will not relinquish control of his body to Marc, best Marc can do is tell Steven to please take care of Layla. Because Marc can’t do that. Not really. Steven can, though.
Marc, in trying to protect Layla from the kind of person he is/was, that being an internationally wanted mercenary who kills to live, quite literally, it’s not a safe environment for Layla. She’s proven time and time again she can stand her ground, but she’s only human. She has no suit, no healing powers. She’s vulnerable. And Marc wants to protect her. The only way he can do that is by being emotionally distant. Let’s rewind a bit to the scene in the car.
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Layla sounded hurt when she wondered why Marc would just want to disappear. It’s clear that she still loves him. Even Marc states yet again, “that deal didn't involve you getting Layla and us killed, did it? That's not gonna fly with me.” Layla being in danger is the Number One Thing that Marc does not want to happen. Even when Steven asks, “Well, hadn't he disappeared from your life already?” And Layla responds, “Yeah. I mean, whatever. His suit was his best feature, wasn't it? Didn't even have that anymore.”, she’s not entirely convinced that she’s over him, because she’s very much not. She’s trying to deny that Marc’s absence is affecting her, but she can’t. Let’s get back to the other half of the tent convo for a bit… (where after Marc says, “I’ve been in situations like this before”, the conversation continues…)-
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The hilarity of Marc being jealous over Steven falling in love with Layla aside, it’s actually pretty deep with meaning. Marc wants to protect Layla but he can either do that, or he would’ve been dead. (Perhaps in trying to both save Layla’s dad and trying to protect her, resulted in Marc being shot and subsequently resurrected. But we’ll see.) His servitude to Khonshu is the reason why he pushes his wife away. She’s not getting in his way, but he’s only concerned for her safety. So, before Steven and Layla head into the tomb…
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I’ve pointed this out before- Steven can give Layla what she never got (or stopped getting) from Marc. Steven is everything that Layla loves about Marc, but without Marc in the picture, he can’t protect Layla, but Steven can. Layla first moves in for a kiss, but before she can do so…
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Layla feels that she wasn’t getting honesty from Marc - and the only reason why he’s hiding things from her is to keep her safe. Remember how Marc told Steven that getting Layla killed wouldn’t “fly” with him and that he’d never let that happen? Stuck in the passenger seat, all Marc can do in between punching Steven for kissing Layla and helping Steven in the tomb, is ruminate. Reflect. Let’s get to that scene.
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Notice how Marc’s tone went from assertive (“Steven, give me the body right now. This is a suicide mission.”) to one of resigned acceptance. Marc’s not even angry anymore. He’s not even mad anymore. And while Marc could not apologize for being involved in the murder of Layla’s dad, Steven apologized instead, not knowing Marc’s story:
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I’m aware “I’m sorry” is a standard response to being told of someone’s death, but here it holds special meaning because Steven apologized where Marc could not do so, hence why Marc had time to really think it over, realize that Steven can be for Layla what Marc couldn’t be. It’s not bad writing. It’s complicated. It was meant to be complicated. A married man coming to terms with the fact that one of his alters is falling in love with his wife, it sounds hilarious but it’s also such a good way of saying, “here, I’ll take care of her for you. You need me, I need you. We need each other. She needs me, she needs you. And you’re not always there for her. In your absence, I’ll love her for you.” And this is precisely what Marc learns to accept.* It’s an unconventional relationship, but it’s a beautiful story. At first I was laughing my head off at the brilliant absurdity of it, but then I realized, hey, it’s deeper than I thought. And it’s off-the-walls wonderful.
* It also kind of explains why both the physical manifestations of Marc and Steven were so relieved to see each other towards the end.
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circes-lioness · 2 months ago
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MOONKNIGHT END CREDITS THEORY
y’all my dad might be the smartest person ever. he pointed this out and i was too lazy to notice until he did. not rlly spoilers for moonknight, but just in case, leave if u want lol.
anyway mark’s third alter is gonna be revealed in a psychiatric hospital scene. just watch the end credits, and pay attention to when steven’s apartment hallway shows up. it shows his hallway, then mark’s storage hallway where he was camping out at, and then a hallway that looks like a hospital of sorts. this is when jake might be revealed to the viewer.
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someguywithglasses · 2 months ago
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Let him out.
LET HIM OUT!
I SAID LET HIM THE F*CK OUT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
FREE THE HOMIE JAKE FOR CHRIST’S SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!
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