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dabblingreturns · 2 years
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At some point, you have to own up to facts, starting a nuclear apocalypse means that you have lost the moral high ground
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theomnicode · 1 year
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Coming of Age; The lessons in immortality and moral high grounding
The longest meta often starts with the tiniest thing.
One thing in Cosmic Garou's design is an interesting one to note.
Long ears.
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It's not only demonic, but elvish as well.
It is by no means accidental, because elves who in popular culture posses such long ears, often denote long life, vitality and immortality.
I'd like to borrow something I found from quora, from Douglas Adam's Hitchiker's guide to galaxy. An answer to question:
Do the Elves in Tolkien’s mythos ever go insane from living too long? Do any of them resent being immortal?
I think this topic is covered very nicely in Douglas Adams' book “Life, the Universe and Everything - Wikipedia ”, the third book in his five book trilogy “The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy”: Wowbagger the Infinitely Prolonged was-indeed, is - one of the Universe's very small number of immortal beings. Those who are born immortal instinctively know how to cope with it, but Wowbagger was not one of them. Indeed he had come to hate them, the load of serene bastards. He had had his immortality thrust upon him by an unfortunate accident with an irrational particle accelerator, a liquid lunch and a pair of rubber bands. The precise details of the accident are not important because no one has ever managed to duplicate the exact circumstances under which it happened, and many people have ended up looking very silly, or dead, or both, trying. Wowbagger closed his eyes in a grim and weary expression, put some light jazz on the ship's stereo, and reflected that he could have made it if it hadn't been for Sunday afternoons, he really could have done. To begin with it was fun, he had a ball, living dangerously, taking risks, cleaning up on high-yield long-term investments, and just generally outliving the hell out of everybody. In the end, it was the Sunday afternoons he couldn't cope with, and that terrible listlessness which starts to set in at about 2.55, when you know that you've had all the baths you can usefully have that day, that however hard you stare at any given paragraph in the papers you will never actually read it, or use the revolutionary new pruning technique it describes, and that as you stare at the clock the hands will move relentlessly on to four o'clock, and you will enter the long dark teatime of the soul. So things began to pall for him. The merry smiles he used to wear at other people's funerals began to fade. He began to despise the Universe in general, and everyone in it in particular.
"So, Elves, having been created immortal, would live happily in Valinor until the end of time. Humans, if they had been granted their wish of immortality, wouldn’t know how to cope with it."
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Elves are naturally immortal; like the Ainur, they are bound to Arda until its End. Elves are immune to all diseases, and they can recover from wounds which would normally kill a mortal Man.[1]:218-9
Nonetheless, Elves can be physically slain or die of grief and weariness.
Saitama denotes all the signs of immortality as well, yet his body is still human, because he stubbornly clings to his humanity. And so his body is still capable of dying.
So in this, Garou's story and one of the themes in OPM is a coming-of-age, where Garou matures enough to realize the cost of attaining such power and takes responsibility for his actions.
Of growing and becoming an old and weary soul, of having your loved ones die before you.
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That's why he chose to not remain so and chose to go out in his own terms and not linger around trying to find redemption. Otherwise he'd just become insane.
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Humans, when immortality is thrust on them, would not know how to cope with it. There is one being that would know this fact better than anybody else. The one who imposed those limits on humankind.
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Yet said being is actually already dead but stubbornly clinging to a human-resembling form and takes the identities and forms of other people because it has none of it's own. Or perhaps it resents itself and so hides behind a facade.
Makes you think who could have killed such a being and locked it away behind a dimensional barrier. If not himself.
So in the cruellest way possible, Future Garou learned an important lesson; not to dabble with powers he does not know to justify being moral police. The consequences are too severe.
That's why he only got a mere fraction of the power and why he was allowed to go out on his own terms. So the lesson will stick harder when it becomes apparent that he's not out of the woods yet. Because he's definitely not allowed to live a long life no or become immortal in the mortal world.
OPM God could have taken his life, yet he did not.
We're really making assumptions here that how long Garou spent touching God's hand is the reason why he got only a small portion of his powers imparted to him.
Instead of OPM God choosing to only impart him with a small fraction.
Or that the gesture itself is entirely meaningless in the grand scheme of things; that the true meaning of taking God's hand is accepting, wanting help and willingness to take that power and touching the hand makes the contract more binding when the person is manipulated to follow through with thinking of it as moral obligation.
It's not like he has to tell them what to do with the power, after all, their own moral code will make certain that they do exactly as he emotionally manipulates them to confidently act.
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Like a puppet chessmaster, the space moral police lawyer. Also known as Advocate.
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They'd still be a puppet, even if they have free will, when they get manipulated into thinking that they can justify their current actions. And why such manipulation is so hard to shake off by telling them they're being controlled, because their own hard convictions lead them on.
Being able to take the moral high ground, when one has so many problems with society's moral values and everyone else's values one deem bad, is a helluva drug indeed.
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(Nice parallel btw)
If it's not apparent, Garou is not the only one who got taught an important lesson that will stick.
Don't take the moral high ground and flaunt that power imbalance. The consequences are too severe. The resulting ignorance and superiority complex are not worth it.
Being able to justify anything one does on the cognitive side is only fooling oneself into becoming a hypocrite.
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Consider using heart and empathy instead.
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So what did we learn about chasing and gaining power, attaining immortality and moral high grounding?
Fucking Don't. Don't fucking do it. Because at the end of the day, people still have to accept responsibility for their own actions if they're to be an actual mature person. Physically and mentally.
The higher moral ground one takes, the harder will be the fall when one slips off the edge.
Oh and the inner critic, Big Brother, is watching, with a magnifying glass in hand.
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(Funny how your own metas make you sound like a bloody hypocrite huh? There is a lot of power in written and spoken words too. It certainly does make one consider. That's how you know ONE's writing is super-effective. Preach.)
Edit: You know it's kind of creepy when I write this shit for multiple hours, post and then I come back and see ONE has posted an omake in Mob Psycho about the same fucking thing.
Well, I fucking guess I'm on the right track with the theme he wants to tell ppfpfpf. Preaching without action or empathy is just being a dumbass hypocrite.
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howifeltabouthim · 1 year
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You are so wedded to this narrative that you are good and everyone else is bad.
Taffy Brodesser-Akner, from Fleishman is in Trouble
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pussypilled · 2 years
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i'm so fucking sick of the moral high ground game people force you to play online
"oh op is a terf, yeah they said they hate all men" "hey just to let you know the person you reblogged this from was a troll account back in 2012" "so is nobody gonna mention that person used aave once back in 2017 and you just reblogged their post about resources for dv" "yeah that post about jewish history came from a jew who refused to answer any questions about israel after like 20 anons harassed them about it so steer clear of them" "op says they're gay but-"
I DIDN'T KNOW AND HONESTLY I DON'T GIVE A FUCK LIKE FUCKING HELL
you can NOT vet every single person you encounter to ensure that their previous views (most after almost a decade spent on this site) will always line up with yours. it's impossible, and frankly sounds exhausting to even try. furthermore the obsession y'all have with being reactionary in the face of even the most blatantly true info just based purely on who it comes from is hypocritical and nonsensical. why is everyone the identity police all of the fucking sudden? why are we all upholding randos to this unobtainable standard of moral purity?
if the information is objectively correct then idk why it would matter who it comes from. nobody's gonna monetarily benefit from a like or a reblog on this site like they do with views and likes on tiktok or youtube. and if you can't consume a simple fucking text post critically then jfc i have no hope. some of you idiots would disagree with grass being green if you heard Someone Bad agreed just to feed into your superiority circle jerk. who are you, or i, to hold someone up to a microscope?
also! especially when i know a lot of you loud ass allies love to fight for us and get involved in our inter-community issues. if someone did something to xyz community then that community should be the foremost authority on how that situation is handled. your job is to offer support and then back the fuck off otherwise, don't forget your place as an outsider.
when i reblog something it's Mine now those are My sticky pawprints all over it and i have almost always completely divorced it from the op or whoever i directly reblogged it from in like five minutes flat. yes to holding people accountable, no to these convoluted man hunts.
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litesobbing · 19 days
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I think about this article all the time.
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doublooons · 2 months
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I love jaywalking so much it’s a god given right. It came with your subscription to humanity.
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A: My first thought, always, when people are like, “aw, I wish I were born in an earlier decade,” is like. The dentistry. Think of the dentistry.
B: That’s your first thought? My first thought is, think of the racism!
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warheads577 · 9 months
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subcon--forest · 20 days
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Bitches will be like "I want more morally gray characters!" then they cant handle Five Pebbles and either write him off as an irreemable monsterous villian or as a baby whos dumb and doesn't know anything and thus cant do anything wrong because he was a kid
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gothicwill · 5 months
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Love how I’ve never read a Hannibal fic where Will is actually freaked out by the cannibalism. Like he’ll discover it and, without fail, be like “..eh whatever” and continue eating.
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mysillyside · 4 months
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Domestic Lawlight is so funny to me these two would be the most annoying insufferable argumentative difficult couple ever.
Here's how I imagine a "Light asks L to help with basic chores" conversation going (they've been married for years):
Light: Hey L, take out the trash today.
L: I don't want to.
Light: Ok? I fail to see how that's relevant. I didn't want to spend my entire morning cleaning your smelly roach infested room, but I did anyway. Would it kill you to at least not throw your candy wrappers on the floor? You have a bin you know. Two bins.
L: I was planning to pick up the wrappers later today but you beat me to it.
Light: You always say that and then never end up doing it.
L: Just because Light-kun is too impatient to wait, doesn't mean I'm lying. You can't prove I wouldn't have picked up the wrappers had you waited, so this is a baseless accusation.
Light: So I'm the problem. For cleaning your mess.
L: I like how my room looks. Perhaps Light-kun should stop being judgemental of people with different lifestyles.
Light: Do I need to keep stressing that your room had a roach infestation problem.
L: The roaches are my friends.
Light: You are being unbelievably difficult. Is it that hard to take out the trash?
L: I don't want to.
Light: "I DoNT wAnT TO". Why do we have to have this conversation every time I ask you to help me with chores.
L: If Light doesn't like doing the chores I will just get Watari to do them.
Light: L. Watari will not be able to do your chores forever.
L: 20%.
Light: ??? I cannot believe you. I can't believe you are insinuating I would kill my father-in-law because I'm reasonably angry with you for throwing a tantrum every time I ask you to help with basic chores. Will my Kira-relapse percentage rise if I demand you do the dishes today too?
L: 30%.
Light: You are insufferable. Like actually insufferable. You know Watari's gonna die one day, right? He's already really old. I won't be here forever either. Who's gonna take care of you when that happens? Might as well start learning to be an adult now at 30. Better late than never.
L: I wouldn't worry. Light-kun is younger than me and I'm the one in actual threat of dying while doing my detective work. Besides, I'm married to Kira-kun. It's a miracle I haven't ended up dead yet. In any case, Light-kun will most certainly outlive me.
Light: ...I'll make you regret this, L.
Light: *angrily storms off with the garbage bag fuming with rage, already starting to craft a detailed extremely elaborate step-by-step plan to fake his own death so he can teach L a lesson about the importance of doing his goddamn household chores*
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swamp-cats-den · 6 months
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Hey, remember the people who, at the beginning of the full-scale russian invasion, were all over tumblr and twitter whining 'oh but why is Ukraine getting all this attention as soon as something happens to it while other suffering countries arent', while also completely unaware of the fact that the war had already been going on for 8 years at that point?
Well, the same people are now posting 'imagine the reaction if that happened to Ukraine!' [insert a thing that has, in fact, and still is happening to Ukraine, bonus points if accompanied by a war video actually taken in Ukraine but misrepresented as coming from a different country]. Which shows that no, even the full-scale invasion didn't make them pay a slightest bit of attention.
And, you know what, it's actually totally ok to care about one conflict more than another, so I'm not chastising anyone here for that. While, as a Ukrainian, I certainly care about the war in my country the most, I have no problem with people who feel more strongly about other wars. I understand they have their own reasons.
What is not ok is living nowhere near the places under attack, posting from the safety of your own (mostly western) home, and diminishing one war to show off how morally righteous you are about another. But those do not see us as real people, only a way to score some woke points anyway.
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ofekma · 6 months
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"noo but this time it's different! Our antisemitism is morally justified! We really do have a good reason to hate the jews!" - every antisemic person at any point in history.
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cr1mson5returns · 8 months
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Sort of obsessing over the concept of Tim, having been acknowledged canonically as a talented photographer, using these skills for morally gray reasons. This kid doesn't intend to use his fists to win every battle, or even most battles, actually. He's well-connected, fits into unconventional hiding spaces due to being lean and slender and 5'6", and he has a very nice camera. So really, Senator, it's a shame you thought you'd get away with so much. Think of what the Times could do with this evidence. High-definition doesn't lie. So you'll vote to expand funding for public education and Medicaid in the state, is that correct? Of course, you're an upstanding politician, after all. Couldn't have all this getting in the way of your career.
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greensaplinggrace · 11 months
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“Character A didn’t love Character B because they hurt them” discourse is truly terrible because it assigns a moral value to love that simply does not exist. love doesn’t actually mean anything about someone’s character. it doesn’t make someone’s actions toward another any better or any worse, it doesn’t prevent atrocities, and it doesn’t prevent abuse.
love is a worthless emotion when it comes to morals because it simply holds no bearing on them. true love doesn’t exist. there is no better or more pure version of love. in the end love doesn’t mean anything. it’s a non-emotion. it’s the child of passion and affection and dedication. doing something bad doesn’t preclude a feeling of love, because a lack of love isn’t a requirement for immoral actions, and morality isn’t a requirement for feeling love.
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