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beautifulpersonpeach · 9 months

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I think a lot of people severely underestimate Jungkook's self-knowledge of being a pretty boy.

He knows how to babygirl and he does so very often. He babygirls us on purpose.

...isn't this fatal?

Do you think there's anybody alive who can look at that face and not thank holy Hera for fucking Zeus?

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For anyone who hasn't yet, you can pre-order the single, Seven, here.

Anyway, for the Anon who asked whether I'm gatekeeping Namjoon... Well, yes I am.

What of it?

I think my only choice is to gatekeep Joon when that man walks around looking like that.

Imagine the audacity of this man.

It's big... and normally he's clumsy but somehow I feel he won't be clumsy with it, you know? He's too much of a slut and a student at heart to not know what he's doing with it. At least that's what it looks like. And the music he makes, that's what it sounds like. In my opinion, and so gatekeep Joon I shall.

For the Anon who biased Jimin for his 'past' sexiness and feels his styling since MOTS7 has been disappointing, plus you hated his look for FACE promotions era...

I mean, on one hand I understand what you're saying. Jimin's look today is very much a choice, as it always is with him. And you're telling me you don't like it. Of course that's fine. Yes please vent in my inbox, but personally, I disagree. I think every post-2020 look Jimin has served deserves to be experienced.

And for no reason at all, Jimin.

Idk... Did people just randomly forget this happened?

Jimin offered such delectable sides of himself during the PTD concerts.

He commits to the slayage and I will always respect him for that.

...do you see the man?

A friend called him "The sexy Lord of the Manor and refined rake ready to ravish your soul." and she's right.

It's so natural for him.

Beautiful.

In some parallel universe he's a college professor and faculty advisor... With his beefy introverted husband at home with their two cats and one puppy.

Stream Set Me Free Pt 2.

Anyway... it's alright if his styling lately isn't for you. He'll be rocking a very different style post-military, and before then he'll have to cut all his hair anyway so don't worry too much about it I guess.

The way I see Jimin, he drips charisma so even when the look shouldn't work, it does, because something else that's innate to him draws you in. Plus I'm a fiend for his visuals.

Like, his look in 1:55 - 3:45 still has me kinda gagged ngl.

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His styling this era represents a different energy he's feeling. It's possible he changes things up for his next solo project, maybe not, either way I genuinely think Jimin looks incredible.

#jeon jungkook #jungkook #jimin #park jimin #jikook #namjoon #kim namjoon #rm

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lokisasylum · 1 year

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I wish I could tell 'yall "I told you so"--

I just hope that now that the truth is out and the 🐈‍⬛' out of the bag, that all the lil company stans that were foaming at the mouth during Jimin's solo trying to keep everyone quiet and gaslight us into believing the company was "innocent", finally opened their eyes.

If not, then learn your place and keep your mouth shut, you're no better than Hybe.

"Oh i'm so angry right now---"

How cute, you're angry NOW babygirl? We've been angry since MOTS7 dropped and they hid "Filter" for 24hrs on all platforms so it wouldn't keep outstreaming the main track.

We've been angry since Jimin started getting those first violent d3ath threats during WINGS era.

We've been angry since that press conference where every member got normal questions about the album that had dropped, their solos, ect. But Jimin was made to answer questions about the d3ath threats he was still getting.

Ya'll just NOW catching up to how shitty this company has ALWAYS been towards Jimin in particular.

The problem was never bb, hanteo, youtube, ect...the problem was JIMIN BEING ON TOP AND ABOVE EVERYONE instead of the ones the company FAVORS.

Thats why everything is miraculously "working fine" now.

But you know what tho? They still gotta live with the fact that Jimin was and always will be The First Ksoloist To Get No.1 in Billboard Hot 100 with a debut EP album AND the second Asian Soloist to do so IN 60+ YEARS.

And he did it all thanks to his own hard work and the fans that truly appreciate him and his music. ⚔️🔥👑

#Jimin you will always be famous #Stream FACE for clear skin #jimin #park jimin #bts jimin #jiminie #FACE era is over when we say it is #PJM #bts #jimin face #jimin solo debut #jiminnetwork

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jiminsass-istant · 2 months

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There’s a lot of assumptions here I don’t agree with. The west is embracing new jeans and they haven’t had physical promo like bts did. The reason why bts is not getting really embraced by the gp is cos the music they promote to the west is generic meaningless boy band music which is very unrelatable. And authenticity is a big thing in the west. If they gave Mots7 or any of their albums before that the level of promo dynamite or butter had, they would have gotten more of the gp appreciation.

Hybe is not just only promoting jk, but they were also hampering other members promo. Look at how lackadaisical they were with shipping jh, Jin & RM albums. How poorly they scheduled Face, the many issues we faced during Face era that jk never experienced. We had to tag them for basic things that a label should already know about. How they shaded jm in their own article and are several times refusing to acknowledge his no1. It goes beyond promoting one member and more into trying to stifle the rest to present an image the label has the power to make a pop star. And is probably also why they give this promo to songs the label premade and not the artist’s authentic music that the artists makes

Thanks for the ask, anon. I'll share my thoughts to your ask in parts: (and sorry for the long essay in advance, kindly read, i swear i get to a point lol)

Western GP (New Jeans vs BTS): Can I be very very honest? New Jeans music is extremely catchy and has that hyperpop element that western audiences eat up. With rise of artists like PinkPantheress, hyperpop is gaining even more popularity, and Y2K aesthetic is back. NewJeans are all that- the music and aesthetic both. I'm not sure what were their digital promo methods, but perhaps playlisting on streaming platforms? And the collab with Apple was very strategic too. Let's also not forget they have english chorus in their songs and went viral on tiktok. New Jeans are in top 5 kpop groups in tiktok. I cannot speak for NewJeans much, because I have only listened to their songs, and do not follow them.

Let's talk about OT7 songs promoted in the US first- as in Dynamite, Butter and PTD. Let's take Dynamite - a very well crafted product, basically a completely American song with American references and MJ inspired choreo. It was meant to catch western attention and did its job. But the problem was- it was a single, not an album and it didn't really showcase the range of their artistry. Yet it did the job of exponentially increasing the fanbase. It was pandemic time, people were in their rooms, with internet and Youtube. Those who were meant to find BTs, found them.

Could BTS have achieved long lasting attention with MOTS 7 promotion? Honestly, it's hard to say. BTS's music is not conventional. You will never hear a BTS song and think- 'oh! i've heard something similar', in fact, sometimes it is even difficult to comprehend what genre their songs are. A different language, a different genre, 7 different voices, with no two albums that sound similar, no viral tiktok songs. Do you know how difficult it is to crack the western market? It is a lot of information to feed. I will come back to the MOTS 7 issue later.

How does one build a fanbase for a band like BTS?

BTS's popularity and long lasting fanbase has always been formed by the story they sell. Bang PD, right from the start, wanted to show the world 7 authentic, real boys who wanted to share their original thoughts, happiness, feelings and struggles. Added to this, their underdog story. Yes, their struggles from older days are all real and valid, but knowing that story makes you relate to them. Because, aren't we all some type of underdog before we achieve something big? People have often been drawn to BTS via word of mouth, friends, 'i just wanted to know their names' and ending up watching the Taylor Guide, 'my wife took me to their concert and now all my friends love BTS', 'they taught me how to love myself' etc etc. BTS has always inducted fans who were searching for something in their lives, or are curious, or are 'willing to learn'. You cannot sit an American down and show them a BTS US interview and ask them to listen to the album and make them a forever fan. Do you know how people in the west don't watch an international film just because they refuse to read subtitles? The language barrier might be easy for armies to overlook because we are invested, but it's not easy to convince a monolingual westerner to start reading subtitles to get into an entirely different fandom.

To sum up my points above:

BTS sell their story and relatability and group dynamics, which is not possible just through basic promotion. One has to dive into BTS voluntarily and go through the plethora of content, one by one.

BTS songs are usually not tiktok viral for some reason, considering how big of an act they are. Barely any bts tracks have gone viral- BST remix, black swan instrumental (maybe), PTD dance challenge to name a few. I don't know the reason why because I have barely ever used tiktok. Because armies only interact with each other on that app and even then, they don't use bts songs as audio.

The pre-requisite is to be backed by a western label for radio, playlist, western ads etc. Because the US won't allow an outsider label to make money off their GP, simple. It just takes away the money that could have stayed with western labels.

Coming to individual member (JK) promoted in the US: I did mention in the post of mine you have linked- that Golden lacked depth. Quoting my own words directly - " While they paid attention to heavy promo, charts and playlisting for Golden, they failed to create a connection with the music- which seems highly non-personal and lacking in depth and has a non-interesting concept. The promo did do the work of making jk a common name, showcasing his talents and introducing him to the industry. But for a lasting impact, they have to create better stories with the music. Idc, army are acting too defensive when people are disappointed that he didn't write his songs. It's okay to not write, but the very least singers can do is connect to song meanings and relate to personal experiences during the promos."

And anon, you are right, to have a lasting impression in the west, one needs authenticity. Actually let me list down the non-compromisable parameters required for success in the US-

Affiliation to US based label/Connection to industry mammoths. (Give money to US/US based part of the company)

English song/ lots of english lyrics + recognizable genre

Character/ brand of the artist (which the audience calls 'authenticity', but is actually the 'brand' of the artist created by the label. People hear the artist's name and know what to expect. You hear Olivia Rodrigo and you know you will get teenage, angsty, heartbreak tracks.)

Last but not the least- tiktok push. (somehow extremely essential today)

Hybe gave JK 1,2 and 4 from above list. They tried to build up on his character, but it is incomplete and lacks depth. The character they have built for him is- Korean hearthrob who can sing and dance, inspired by Michael Jackson, the ONE member to look out from the massive band BTS (Justin Timberlake trajectory). They gave him catchy songs directed at het women, dressed him up in clothes fitting that image and made him perform live at TSX. Thanks to the massive ads and promo, people know him now. But unless he shows the true depth of his character and brand to the GP, a lot of people (non-army) won't look forward to his future works. And whether we like it or not, him not being being able to interact freely and share his thoughts in english in the interviews is still a drawback for him. (personally, i wish that was not true).

Even when some celebrities of colour get the limelight in US pop culture, it's because they are connected to the US. They emerge as this messiah for their 3rd world country, can speak english and work for US labels and production companies. The US gets to keep the money and awards, and also gets to flaunt 'diversity'. It has always worked like that when the west opened the doors for a POC.

MOTS 7 would not get GP acceptance without being backed by a US label. And would a US label ever accept a full Korean album with all Korean artists? Why would they invest in an artist of a foreign language? Can Bang PD's assistant call up US radio and get them to play Dionysus? No. But if Scooter does it, they will pay attention.

An English speaking artist can convey their feelings through words on a radio, but how will a Korean artist do that on the radio with no subtitles, to an audience who refuses to read subs in the first place? You know how the US GP reacted when Parasite movie won an Oscar, right?

Ever since 2017, BTS have tried for that hot 100, did everything they could, backed by their Korean company, tons of US interviews and what not. But at the end of the day, they had to compromise with meaning and depth and churn out an all english, MJ inspired, disco pop track which finally gave them their #1. I am not downplaying the significance of Dynamite, or saying that it's a bad song. But I simply mean that only a marked shift in genre and strategy gave them that #1.

Anon's words: "Hybe is not just only promoting jk, but they were also hampering other members promo."

You are absolutely right. The only properly done solo work was that of Yoongi I feel. He knows his priorities and influence on the company, and has always had a very strong connection to both inside and outside the company. I'm not sure if D-Day was mismanaged, though am sure some yoongi biased army will have things to point out. All the other members have faced mismanagement. Jimin the most, I feel. Even recently, there's a Weverse article where they wrote that "jhope led the contemporary dance with Jimin", in spring day. All respect to Jhope where he deserves because he is the dance leader indeed, but he did not lead the contemporary dance in spring day, as amazing as he is, respectfully.

Anon's words: "It goes beyond promoting one member and more into trying to stifle the rest to present an image the label has the power to make a pop star."

I felt the same thing. I share the same sentiment with you here. The way they downplayed Like Crazy's achievements was disappointing and hurtful. That day it became crystal clear to me that Bighit did NOT see that achievement coming. None of the member's releases was meant to make this much noise, not before their Scooter backed project. They grossly underestimated the extent army can go even for 1 member (arguably the 2 most popular members in US are Jimin and Jungkook). Honestly the type of promotions JK got would never be given to other members because the other members would NOT agree to singing english songs that have zero depth and zero connection to their own feelings. JK was willing to take up that offer because.. well it's his choice. It was a golden platter, why not take it up? His image is moldable, he can sing whatever he is given and has the talent to pull it off. No matter whom we bias, JK has been the center of almost all BTS songs, a non-replaceable voice. But at the end of the day, the reason he was the one member who Bighit wanted to stand-out from the group was, it was his consent and agreement to everything the company planned for him.

I do wonder what it would have been like if all members received that kind of promo with their own artistry. But the entire premise of them being backed by Scooter/US collapses because they refuse to sing songs written by Scooter's writers. So I also agree with anon when they said "And is probably also why they give this promo to songs the label premade and not the artist’s authentic music that the artists makes."

Instead, Hybe is focusing on the other kpop groups under them. It's like the 6 members were just given their own individual management teams to manage their solo works lol. At least, let's be glad that the 6 members are getting full creative freedom for their work. I just want their solo works to be better managed. And I hope their managers, and planners, especially those on Jimin's side have learnt their lesson and come up with a foolproof promo for their next projects. I don't expect anything from BangPD, that man has been showing a certain pattern I don't want to discuss. (solely because i refuse to think what goes on in his mind).

As fans, all we can do is support the solo works we feel connected to and support BTS as a whole in future OT7 projects.

#bts analysis #bts chapter 2

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sageistrii · 1 day

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this is going to be more about bts in general so i understand if you dont want to post. i just want to get it out of my system. the teaser for the bts popup thing and the tweet above brought so many things that I’ve disliked/nearly loathed about how bighit has treated bts image/brand in the last 2 years to the forefront of my mind. first, the whole anthology nonsense which was a cheap copout before enlistment. i fully understand that the members were exhausted and needed a change but hybe/bh went about it so wrong and though it may sound extreme i feel that it will have been at the expense of bts’ legacy in years to come. BH/Hybe has been sloppy when it comes to BTS for a while now because they knew they could get away with it financially but seeing so clearly now that it could likely cost them their legacy is so frustrating. No one can deny they had a great run from 2019 to 2021. It was perfectly reasonable for them to have a break before MS and for that time to be used for each of them (or some) to flesh out their solo work. But the way Proof era was handled so sloppily pisses me off. It was kicked off in such a grandesque way with the teaser at the end of the last PTD concert only to be followed with the dissapointment of it being an anthology with only three new songs that had leaked like a year in advance 😩. Then hyping up some big reveal for their anniversary day only for it to be the disastrous June 14th video that ended up reading like a disbandment announcement and became a PR debacle.

I need to talk about the June 14th incident because it simply perplexes me in a number of ways. First of all, I completely understand why the members were emotional about the change/the news they were sharing because a) they knew they’d be dissapointing some people b) i cant imagine how emotionally and physically drained they must have been at the time it was filmed. Obviously, when you’re that exhausted you’re simply prone to get more emotional so I can’t blame them for not seeing how the information would be received from an objective POV they were just relieved to get it out. But their team on the other hand… why the F$&@ did they think it was a good idea for that information to be delivered that way??? Where was the rationality? Where was the coolheadedness? As someone with an interest in PR, it honestly keeps me up still lmao. From a PR standpoint, it was catastrophic and the fact that their team could not foretell the reaction would be chaos from fans and the media goes to show how mediocre their team was at the time. Hell, their stock never fully recovered after that even with Jimin giving it the big boost later. Which they somehow also managed to fumble. But i digress…

2022 was the year for bts to go out with a bang, they simply could have put out a 5-6 track mini album and wrapped it up w a pretty little bow at the Busan concert and even with never reuniting again (which they obviously would bc money) it would have been a nice satisfying ending. But no it was a mess that turned into a series of terrible decisions one after the other and now they’re stuck with Voldemort and will inevitably sell out in 2025 with more Bieber rejects and Golden 2.0 to prove they didn’t “lose relevancy” after the military. Oh brother. Its really not that deep in the grand scheme of things but so dissapointing, unnecessary, and infuriating. Especially bc I will likely still be there to watch it all unfold bc it doesn’t look like my obsession with Jimin is going away any time soon… *sighs*

You're right and I have talked about this before.

I saw other armys quoting that tweet and talking about how epic it was, but it only reminded me of how much of a fumble that whole era was.

If you actually think about it, the last time BTS had a full on era was 4 years ago with mots7.

Dynamite was an English single, BE never even felt like an actual era because of how it was marketed as as some emotional pandemic inspired project with a ballad as the title track. The whole of 2021 was filled with English singles and collabs and in 2022 we had proof with another ballad as the title track. Since 2020 all BTS releases have either been English singles or Korean releases that are clouded with some emotional connotation which kills the hype and excitement around it. And I saw someone say at this point they wouldn't be surprised is bts' first comeback as a group is some emotional fan song about how they miss armys and themselves during their time in the Military, and I wouldn't be surprised if that ends up happening. Like for once can y'all just give us a normal Korean comeback with an upbeat title track and choreography?

The hype around what could have been their best and most successful Korean album yet being wasted on a repackage and a title track like yet to come could have been overlooked if they had made run BTS the title track, but alas. It's almost like bighit and BTS equates emotional and sentimental to boring and lackluster.

Doing all that at the concert only for the whole era to be a burst, the only good thing to come out of proof was run BTS.

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reflectonlike · 17 days

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I just listened to Louder than bombs for the first time in like 2 years and what a piece of art 🩶 MOTS7 in general is.

I remember watching the ON:E concert at iota o’clock with my cousin and crying horribly (the boy during Inner Child made me sob and Jimin with his outfit change had me gagged and I actually Paid for the concert lol ) because it was so good? I don’t know if I would feel the same now, but back then I was so enamored by them that I was eating up everything.

But anyways, Louder than bombs is that queen for me, it was on shuffle the whole pandemics and when the 2 broadcasted concerts ended and they didn’t sing it I was AGAIN crying because she was my favorite that I was rooting for but then the era ended and bye LTB skksndksjd.

The song, for me, has three highlights, even though I give her a solid 10 because she is my baby and I am biased like that BUT Jimin Taehyung and Jhope (because of his adlibs. Have I told you I am a s*cker for well executed adlibs?) Jimin and TH have such different vocal ranges but they have a distinctive factor when they sing and I firmly believe that when you listen to a BTS song (specially when you don’t know them well) both their voices sharp and deep are THERE and you are obligated to listen to them creating such a pretty contrast. While JK is like the neutral and bridge between both playing the harmonization part alongside Jin. Or at least thats how I feel about the song in particular.

When I listen to a song I am more feelings driven so whatever makes me feel a certain way, I appreciate, and I really really appreciate those three members parts, it’s like they are feeling it too. The “aaaah” (?) still haunts me and Jimin (and Th) just nailed it.

#music appreciation

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stormblessed95 · 1 year

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Stoooorm! I have two questions for you.

1. Favorite Jimin era

2. Favorite Jungkook era

No specific criteria. You can only choose 1 for each. Good luck! 😂

If I can share mine, I'll choose blue black haired Jimin (Black Swan era - I'm torn with silver-haired Jimin in BS&T but oh well) and purple-haired JK (Butter era - Again, torn with manbun Black Swan JK).

Cheers!

MOTS7 era/ON era. Is this a bias coming into to play with that being my first comeback??? Maybe. Idk. But I LOVED their looks/styles that whole era too.

Second place going to PTD concert era Jimin and SoWooZoo JK with Jimins long hair and JK with his tattoos all out. (You picked back ups too anon! I'm playing by the same rules!)

I'm second guessing myself because I keep coming up with more options. Lol I love them in all eras. Every era has something special about it. This is kinda a rude question!!

#jikook #kookmin #jikook favorite eras

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5and3nevermind · 2 months

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I just rewatched it so I have to yell about in the soop season 1 yoonmin they are sooo sweet. Especially after their little midweek break where they went back home and ym did the radio vlive…jimin said I want u to long for me more actively and they get back to the soop and yoongi is asking him to play their team fighter tactic game or whatever nonstop and just paying him so much attention 🫠like the whole time they were woodcarving… I swear yoongi could have watched jimin chop wood with that axe all day 😭😭 and this is barely scratching the surface of their ITS antics 😞😞😞😞

How fun! Maybe I should rewatch it too.

Some things that still stand out to me:

- You are right about the woodcarving and Jimin using the ax! Yoongi was so focused on what Jimin was doing. Plus, Yoongi gave Jimin that little safety reminder about wearing gloves. So cute.

- The gaming! There were multiple times that Yoongi asked Jimin to play. At least three that I can think of off the top of my head.

- We can’t forget Yoongi offering to blow out all of the candles in the upper house when Jimin said he doesn’t like scented candles. What a sweet gesture!

- Yoongi said he wanted to work on a song with Jimin (and snuggle in the privacy of the camper?) and apparently over the course of that trip he let Jimin listen to three different songs (Telepathy, Life Goes On, and Amygdala), according to what we’ve seen and what was said later in various interviews. I think that says a lot about Yoongi’s trust in Jimin and his respect for his opinion. Yes, Jimin was the Music PM for BE, but that doesn’t apply to Amygdala, nor does it explain why Yoongi didn’t merely submit his songs to Jimin once they were complete. I think Jimin hearing Amygdala in the camper was a significant moment. That is such a personal song for Yoongi.

- I thought it was interesting how often they sat together for meals. One time, Joon was seated next to Jimin, and Yoongi walked over and gestured for him to scoot over so that he could squeeze between the two of them.

- This doesn’t apply to the second half, but I thought the rooming arrangements were interesting, with Jimin saying he wanted to game with Yoongi all night in the upper house and Yoongi choosing the nearby camper, somewhat isolated from the main house and the rest of the guys.

This is a whole other topic, but I do think yoonmin went through a little rough patch at the beginning of 2020. They were so busy preparing MOTS7 and other projects, thinking they would be going on tour soon, then the chaos and disappointment of the pandemic, etc. But it’s funny because starting in May 2020, all of the sudden things seem so much better. In fact, they seem more solid than ever: everything that happened in ITS, Yoongi suggesting Jimin as Music PM for BE, the radio live and then not too long after that surgery era and we know how that went.

I really see those events in May—ITS, BE album planning and Yoongi’s encouragement, and the radio live—as the start of a trajectory that we continued to see all the way into 2023. 💛

#yoonmin #ask #2020

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solarwynd · 3 months

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I don’t know how to explain it (true conspiracy theory) but everything went wrong after BH joined Hybe. It happened in 2020, didn’t it? Since 2020 Jimin’s light started diminishing. Fewer lines, fewer center stages, no solo music in albums…

Idk what happened. During BH era all members were given rather the same emphasis. Ofc, songwriting was on the rl, while ml were used mostly for boosting fan engagement. But then everything changed.

Not only with Jimin, btw. I feel like Nj role was brutally erased also.

Jimin’s light hasn’t diminished. And his lines have never really been substantial for someone whose supposed to be the lead vocalist tbh, but in recents times it has gotten even more sparse. We had MOTS7 with filter and that was his last solo track. In that same year BE happened and he was the only member that didn’t have a major contribution outside of the bridge in disease. What’s a head scratcher for me though is jimin has such a natural gift for melodies and his track record proves it. There’s just no conceivable way that what he put forth wasn’t working well enough that they couldn’t go with it in some way. That’s why I don’t like that “2 go in 1 comes out” system they’ve made for picking tracks cause I feel like there’s always gonna be some type of inherent bias there that causes skewing. And it’s not like there was a cohesive theme for BE. The songs were all over the place. They coulda kicked dynamite out and made room cause it’s not like it was a necessity for that to be on there.

The purpose of maknae line was not for boosting fan engagement, it just panned out that way because they were attractive and people were drawn to them the most out the group. The appeal was the music though and that’s what really garnered them a big audience. I wouldn’t say that Joon’s role was erased either. During ITS he has stated that he was dealing with heavy artist block and it was getting very difficult to write songs. If you really think about it he’s been responsible for the bulk of the lyrics in bts’ discography. Might be misremembering a little but I also feel as though the other members genuinely wanted to give him a break too because of that. So it’s not really hybe in regards to joon. He’s still very much active as the leader to me.

In the transition small label to big corporation since hybe spawned from BH though, I definitely feel like original ideals were lost. It became more about expansion for hybe and bringing in income instead. And of course Bang with his idea of a western takeover. So I’m not expecting it to revert back to the way it was cause that man is firmly stuck in that vision.

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