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I really want to know what was going through Gabriel’s head every time he akumatized Mr. Pigeon.
“I’ve akumatized him 26 times and he has failed every single one.” and then he proceeded to akumatize him 46 more times.
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emee-ems · 1 year
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Spoilers for Derision [This is really just my take on the episode.]
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I realized that the issue with Kim and why he didn’t see a problem with his actions is because of intent.
Example: Person A says something that ends up hurting Person B’s feelings. Since Person A didn’t intend for their remark to have that effect, there’s really no issue, despite how Person B feels. Person A just thinks that Person B is overreacting. This invalidates Person B’s feelings.
[I knew someone like this: he’d never see himself as doing/saying anything wrong because it wasn’t his intention to make me feel a certain way; meanwhile I’m trying to say that regardless of your intent, I still feel this way because of it. We’d go in circles and I would always end up so mad.]
Plenty of people unintentionally hurt other peoples’ feelings (and unintentionally cause akumas) but this instance stands out to me the most.
In Kim’s mind, he was just playing a prank; his intentions were to do something funny. By thinking otherwise, he sees it as people just aren’t getting the joke; that those people just need to lighten up. A prank isn’t a big deal so a person shouldn’t make a big deal out of it.
He also doesn’t ever seem to think before he acts/speaks. That’s nothing new. In Origins, Kim was shown to be immature and constantly pulled pranks on people (in Timebreaker they called them dares). He was the cause of the first akuma. The events in Derision happened a year before Origins so his [increased] immaturity makes sense.
I don’t really see his character being assassinated here since:
1) his terrible actions happened a year ago. It’s not the current him who did these actions...just the current him who didn’t understand what he actually ended up doing to Marinette in the long run.
2) he’s shown at the end to learn that, regardless of his intentions, his actions can have lasting effects. He obviously never gave it much thought, especially since Marinette was okay with him afterwards (since she repressed that specific memory relating to him).
His ability to learn and feel remorseful and apologetic makes me not hate him. I was disappointed in him though. He does, however, really need to make it up to Ondine for that one comment. She’s way more forgiving than me.
Also gonna add onto this one more thing concerning Marinette: why did this particular episode bring up this repressed memory when she has been shown at the pool before? I think it’s due to a few things.
1) In Mr. Pigeon 72, Marinette goes to the pool with Kagami to try and get her back together with Adrien. Her focus was on Kagami more so than the place they were in.
2) It wasn’t just the pool that brought up the memory. There were multiple factors other than the setting that matched the events of the memory. In both situations, she was going to the pool for a first date with a guy she liked. It felt like she was repeating a day without even realizing it; her body did though.
This turned out pretty long. I hope I was able to articulate my thoughts properly.
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moneeko · 1 year
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Do you forget how they ran previous seasons?
I noticed that the creators are notoriously forgetful and come up with things on the spur of the moment
1) In Mr. Pigeon 72, Marinette was in the pool with Kagami and acted normally, and in (spoiler) she was in season 5, she acted like she had PTSD, she was afraid to move. Panic attacks. Fear was evident. But why didn't she have it in Mr. Pigeon? She could also be afraid there that she would be betrayed, or deceived.
2)Audrey appears in Style Queen, Episode 18, Season 2, and Zoe appears in Sole Chrusher, Episode 7, Season 4. Why wasn't she mentioned in previous seasons? Even the aforementioned 3 since it was made during the production of 3?
3) If you give signs that a certain character is able to be redeemed, you destroy and make the worst products that even Chloe from season 1 wouldn't do. Have you forgotten what the season was like? Yes, she was mean, but she had limits
4)Since the first season, ladybug and hut powers were equal. However, from the 3rd season, you can see increasing reinforcements toward Ladybug… Why doesn't he make them equal? By, for example, Ladybug's powers would be random and uncontrolled as chaos, despite the creation. And the Black Cat is destruction? But can he control them? To Control lest the hippo's powers go out of control?
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What better to watch more interesting and valuable series than this
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into-september · 1 year
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MAIN TAG: mlb meta
SHIP STUFF
Put your money on ladynoir, kids
On the merits of imperfection (why ladrien is my favourite side of the love square)
The innage tragedy of ladrien, and why I love it
So here’s the thing: (from the perspective of character growth, reversing the love square makes no sense)
To phrase this better than I did so late at night that it was technically morning: (lukanette is a masterclass in the crucial difference between showing and telling)
The NYC special might’ve sunk lukanette before it ever had the chance to happen
if we’re using “friendship is more important than a celebrity crush” to argue against the love square…
On shipping dynamics within the love square, mainly marichat vs. ladrien
ADRIEN AGRESTE MY BELOVED
Adrien Agreste and the limelight
Adrien Agreste and the question of unmasking
Some speculation about Gabriel’s possible ways out of being Hawkmoth and how they will affect Adrien
To cross your DNA with something reptile (on sentiadrien, because who needs narrative logic when you can have angst)
Being the topic du jour and all (the show has already shown that getting his amok can’t be a ~beautiful metaphor~ for sentiadrien’s freedom)
If sentiadrien is meant to be a commentary on child abuse then someone has no idea how stories work (spoiler: it’s not, because abuse is funny on this show)
SPOILER: I’M A CHLOÉ STAN I GUESS
Ending Chloé’s story as a villain would be a vaste of screentime and that’s why they shouldn’t
This be the verse (let’s just say I’m less than impressed with how early S4 handled the Bourgeois family drama)
Some more Zoé meta
Let’s talk narratological theory to explain why Chloé is an abused child in the text even if the creator insists she isn’t
WHY LUKA ISN’T MY FAVOURITE CHARACTER
Spoiler: Luka Isn’t A Great Character Yet (written in response to some people’s very low standards after “Truth” aired)
In fact he’s so poorly written that he’s pretty much an unintentional parody
Overthinking things (they don’t mean it like that but I saw some uncomfortable sexist themes to Luka’s akuma powers, both times)
Can we please stop blaming Marinette for Luka being a simp
MIXED BAG
Paper faces on parade (comparing and contrasting Marinette Dupain-Cheng and Gabriel Agreste)
On the feminist merits of MLB
The Scarf Came Back (on “Mr. Pigeon 72″ and the meaning of its many callbacks to early S1)
Related: S4 and “Gorizilla”
Jagged Stone is… (a spoiled manchild who’d be an awful parent if he’d stuck around and they were better off without him)
“Gang of Secrets” was underwhelming and that’s a problem
I finally realised where my entire problem with “Gang of Secrets” lies
Right now my main hope for S4 is that I’ll come out of it shipping alyanette like it’s going out of style (this show should’ve put more effort into Alya like three seasons ago)
MLB and the bad rich people
Some observations and a poor attempt at analysing the depiction of wealth in Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Cat Noir
No, Marinette isn’t a Mary Sue (because I refuse to acknowledge linguistic drift and “Mary Sue” does not mean what you think it means)
Etymology ragepost, MLB edition
This show just can't up the stakes in battle
NOT REALLY META BUT STILL
Chloé should discover Cat Noir’s identity it’d be great
I also really want Felix to become a gentleman thief
What if all the heroes knew everyone’s identities except Cat Noir’s, wouldn’t that be super fun and not at all heartbreaking
My ideas for the Secret Sibling were way better than who it turned out to be tbh
Did you know that I have a tag devoted to Kagami being a fujoshi
Outline of the Hikaru no Go AU someone else should totally write
“Puppeteer 2″ was a microcosm of the Cat Noir-Ladybug-Nino-Alya mess of S4
Marinette is canonically bi in the Norwegian dub
GOING OFF ON OTHER PEOPLES’ POSTS
The Umbrella Scene Redux in the NYC special wasn’t about Adrien falling for Marinette but a foreshadowing of the importance of friendship going onward
Adrien’s pain lies not in unrequited love, but projecting his abandonement issues onto Ladybug
A small but heartfelt declaration to adrigami
When you have to make your characters repeatedly insist that someone is so totally in love, it’s not coming across as totally convincing to your audience
tl;dr I suspect that the reason marichat is so popular and ladrien is correspondingly disliked is about gender roles, actually
On marichat and ladrien and romance tropes
No really, ladrien is stupid and that’s why I love it
The Reveal is supremely unlikely to happen before the deciding battle against Gabriel and if it does, they won’t get together before it anyway
MLB’s got a bit of a genre problem and that’s why the plot cannot ever move
Chloé is the Loki of the MLB fandom and given how much attention the show proper gave her compared to the rest of the secondary cast, Thomas Astruc has no right to be surprised about it
Chloé can’t be Queen Bee again before she realises that she doesn’t need to be Queen Bee to do good things
More Chloé analysisin’: An irredeemable character wouldn’t need a three-episode storyline to explain her reluctant fall for the villain
Some people finding the sentiadrien narrative a healing parable about emotional abuse does not stop it from functionally annulling the actual emotional abuse the show depicted
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christaspirit · 1 year
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I posted 372 times in 2022
That's 372 more posts than 2021!
80 posts created (22%)
292 posts reblogged (78%)
Blogs I reblogged the most:
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I tagged 350 of my posts in 2022
Only 6% of my posts had no tags
#toh - 57 posts
#the owl house - 56 posts
#miraculous - 56 posts
#toh spoilers - 49 posts
#amphibia spoilers - 45 posts
#the owl house spoilers - 44 posts
#amphibia - 27 posts
#miraculous ladybug - 21 posts
#amphibia spoliers - 18 posts
#mlb - 13 posts
Longest Tag: 137 characters
#considering the previous episode told us that the core never sleeps it's funny that that's what we see it doing after the whole flashback
My Top Posts in 2022:
#5
After learning he’s a grimwalker, Hunter might be wondering if he’s even a real person. After all, he seemed to know what a grimwalker is.
Having Flapjack is really important. I think Flapjack would bring Hunter to the Bat Queen. If anyone would know about wondering whether or not they’re real, it would be the palismen. After all, parliament are carved from wood. They aren’t born either.
Hunter really needs advice right now, and someone who understands where he’s coming from.
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#4
Okay, so there's this trope that I absolutely HATE. It's when the villain is so much more powerful than the hero, for no good reason, and the only reason the hero wins is because the villain is straight-up stupid. Like, the hero has all these restrictions and whatnot with their powers (time limits, limited use), while the villain DOESN'T. Like... what? There's no way this hero should be winning, except, the villain is dumb!
Take miraculous for example. Ladybug and Chat Noir can only use their power ONCE, and once they use their power, they have to detransform, recharge their kwamis, and retransform. Meanwhile, Hawkmoth (and Mayura) never have to detransform! Hawkmoth can send out another Akuma as soon as he wants. And he can even make it so he can send out as many as he wants! (See, Catalyst.) So why is Hawkmoth losing? Because he's dumb. He akumatizes Mr. Pigeon 72 times. He gives the akumatized villains dumb powers. And the akumas themselves make stupid choices, despite having no limits on their powers themselves (a few exceptions, like Lady Wifi needing her phone). The only reason Ladybug and Chat Noir are winning is because they're smarter than Hawkmoth! And it's not like their intelligence is a strength. If anything, they're dumb too. Hawkmoth is just more dumb. And the reason he doesn't have the same limit on his power? He's an adult. Yep. Not experience or anything. He's just an adult. Mayura didn't have a limit on her power when she first transformed as an adult.
Another example: Power Rangers (don't hate me, please). It's not as obvious, but like... guys, the villains follow the same pattern every. Single. Time. Like... just start expecting it. Or better yet, main villains, stop sending the bad guys in when you know it doesn't work! Like, seriously. These shows have the villain do pretty much the same thing every episode, with a different face. Show heroes. Show villains. Send the bad guy in. Fight. Defeat. Bad guys gets bigger. Fight. Defeat again. Lesson learned. Seriously, stop following this same pattern! Also, you guys always have access to your powers, while the ranger team needs to transform. And when the rangers get their powers, they don't need training or anything...? What?
Most kid shows are like this. The heroes are obviously less powerful than the villain, but the villain is dumb. Like, making the villain dumb on purpose is fine. But when you're treating them as an actual threat when they aren't... seriously?
Do I have any series that don't follow this pattern?
Yes. Yes I do.
Sailor Moon. Usagi just got her powers. So did her friends. They're insanely powerful, but they don't know how to use their powers. Meanwhile, the villains are like... thousands of years old. They have plenty of experience. The heroes and villains have around the same power level (I mean, Usagi literally destroys an entire planet in the second arc), the villains just have more experience!
Harry Potter. Voldemort is an adult. He's finished school, and has had lots of training and practice. He's also naturally gifted. Dumbledore has also had lots of practice and training. They're so powerful for these reasons. Meanwhile, everyone else either isn't as naturally gifted, or is legit still in school. Harry wins because of luck. He happened to disarm the elder wand's true master, so the elder wand would never hurt him. Harry also sacrificed himself, meaning Voldemort couldn't hurt anyone else. ACTUAL REASONS.
Percy Jackson. The demigods are kids, and they're HUMAN. The villains are all immortal, with lots more practice. Kronos was defeated because Luke managed to regain control long enough to sacrifice himself. Gaea was defeated because she was removed from her source of power. Hey look, more ACTUAL REASONS.
Phineas and Ferb. Yes, Doof is stupid. The series literally makes jokes at that. He's not treated as a super serious villain most of the time. THAT'S WHY IT WORKS. Meanwhile, Perry has had lots of training. Woah, the hero is better than the villain!
When the only reason there's an actual fight is because the Villain is more powerful just because it's not good. The heroes shouldn't be able to defeat this villain. The villain is too powerful compared to them. The only reason the heroes beat the villain is because the villain is dumb. That's why this bothers me! In a normal world, these villains wouldn't be defeated! If you're going to make the villain so much more powerful, give them a legit reason, like they've had way more experience, or they're naturally gifted! Or if you're going to make them dumb, than go hard on that! Don't make them this super serious threat when they aren't! The simple reason "they're an adult" is stupid. Just because you're an adult doesn't mean you skip the learning stage. Just being an adult isn't a reason. Something like "They've had more years to train because they're an adult now" works. Just being an adult doesn't work (I'm looking at you miraculous). Maybe the reason is because they're stronger. Explain why! Promised Neverland does this well, with the villains, the demons, being a different species! Another example from Promised Neverland, the "moms" being so much smarter than the kids, because they've had years to train. Or Norman being increadibly smart because it's a specialty. Raw talent.
In summary, please, don't make the villains so much more powerful than the heroes, and only lose because they're dumb. Make the villain and hero powerful, and not dumb, or make the villain dumb and make jabs at it for fun, but don't do them together. Because then the story is just plain unrealistic.
And I hate that.
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#3
After seeing the Collector stop the draining spell only minutes after Eda lost her arm, I was wondering (like a lot of others), why did they make Eda lose her arm? If they had just waited a few more minutes she would have been fine.
Then I realized her curse would kill her first. She didn't have a few more minutes. At the speed the corruption was spreading, she probably had like, a minute at most.
Raine could tell that. They didn't know if the spell could be stopped, so they decided they had to save Eda. They might die, but at least Eda would be safe.
105 notes - Posted May 31, 2022
#2
Anya is Strong
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My #1 post of 2022
Notes: I've seen many people do the fic where Marinette gets kicked off the class trip, but how mean her classmates acted bothered me, so I made them as in character as I could.
This takes place after season 3 if Marinette got Master Fu's tablet instead of Gabriel. Uh... that's all I've got to say.
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Marinette’s entire life changed when Lila joined her class.
Adrien insisted they don’t call Lila out. Gone was her friendship with him, and her crush.
The majority of her class believed Lila about Marinette bullying her. Those friendships were gone.
She lost trust with Mme. Bustier, as Bustier believed Lila’s injuries without any doctors records.
So when the school year was drawing to a close, Marinette’s only friends left in the class were Alya, Nino, Rose, Juleka, and Nathaniel. 
Some of her other classmates were picking on her (slamming the door in her face, tripping her), but most of them just stood by passively.
Marinette had noticed Chloe was annoyed with Lila but assumed that was just because Lila was getting more attention than her.
So when Chloe had walked to Marinette’s desk with a thick binder, Marinette was surprised.
Chloe set the binder down on Marinette’s desk.
“What’s this?” Marinette asked.
“It’s…” Chloe muttered. “It’s a record of everything I’ve ever done to you. From the snide comments to wrecking your work and copying you,”
Marinette blinked, and opened the binder. To her surprise, Chloe was telling the truth. Everything Chloe had done to her in the past four years was written in the binder, in Chloe’s handwriting. However, next to each thing was a number. Most of the records of the snide comments had a single euro written out next to them, but some of the meaner things had even more euros, and anything Chloe had wrecked or copied had a number that matched the price of the object.
“What’s with the euros?” Marinette asked.
Chloe winced.
“I…” Chloe started, her voice cracking. “I thought that maybe I should pay you back. Things cost money, and I know that if I ruined your things or copied them, I had wasted your money… so… I’m going to pay you back,”
“Why are you paying me for things you said though?” Marinette asked.
“Because-” Chloe’s voice broke. “Because… well, I know that you’ve done everything for the class for free in the past. I’ve noticed. You made the banner for that race for free, you’ve made all their outfits for free… I felt like someone should pay you, and if they aren’t, then I will. And I’ve made enough mean comments about you that you’ll make a profit off of this,”
Marinette stared at the binder, then up at Chloe.
“Why are you doing this?” Marinette asked.
Chloe looked to the floor.
“I guess…” Chloe muttered. “I was just mean because I was jealous. You’re talented, you have your parents, and you were friends with everyone. Meanwhile, my mom can’t even keep my name straight, cheated on my dad and I have this half-sister I’ve never met, I make Sabrina do everything, and no one likes me… I thought making you miserable would make me feel better, and I guess I got carried away and didn’t realize that it was wrong. But after seeing how the class has treated you, some of whom have known you for years… I realized just how bad I was being. I realized what I put Sabrina through. And then Adrien… he knows the truth, and refuses to do anything! And Mme. Bustier is horrible!”
Chloe was lucky they were the only people in the classroom because the majority of the class would have glared at her.
“Alya doesn’t really like her either,” Marinette said. 
“So… yeah,” Chloe said. “Can we… start over? As friends?”
Marinette looked at the binder.
“Sure,” Marinette said.
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sweetjupiterr · 3 years
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alternate ending to mr. pigeon 72!
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mari-cherri · 3 years
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This scene broke me,...
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basically.... AAAAAAA i really needed some time to chill before i could draw because AJNDJSJSJ <3333333
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princechairmanmeow · 3 years
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⚠️MR PIGEON 72 SPOILERS⚠️
here are some old memes because this episode was really something else and I almost died laughing at least three times.
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aalissy · 3 years
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The way Adrien hit his head turning to look back at Marinette my babiessssssssss 🥺🥺
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I’m still not over the fact that they were going to walk home together
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eggrestes · 3 years
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guys we saw alya’s ladynoir fanfiction
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emsylcatac · 3 years
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Girl really went and linked her arm with his and snuggled close to him like damn Marinette 👏
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burritosbymoonlight · 3 years
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Gabriel vs. Marinette
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This scene is the perfect reminder that Gabriel is the only thing standing between Marinette & Adrien's potential. I get the feeling that this foreshadows their future relationship, or at attempt of it, quite well.
Furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised if Marinette encouraged Adrien to stand up to his father himself. She wants him to be happy, and if they're developing a relationship, she's going to want to be as helpful to him as she can be.
This will just heighten the tension between Marinette and Gabriel, and I don't find it surprising that their civilian forms AND their superhero forms will both oppose each other. Both of their lives are merging from parallels to a single dynamic.
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