hi! sorry for the message, especially if it's a repeat question (i checked all the gender variable/twine gender coding tags you had and couldn't find anything, but i know tumblr can be weird). i was wondering if there was a way to use multipronouns for ROs? like say i have an RO who uses she/he pronouns. how would i go about switching between them? thank you for all the coding resources you've published btw! you're a genius
Aww, thank you so much Anon!! 🥺🥺
If your RO canonically switches between she/he pronouns, no customization from the MC needed, then you don't have to use my macro! You can just write his pronouns normally and switch up her pronouns throughout the story.
However, if you mean that you want to let the player customize the ROs' multipronouns the same way they can customize their own—I have a somewhat scuffed way you can do it, though it hurts my programming insides. It's the easiest way for you and won't require me to create another macro entirely!
LINKS — here's a link to the Github of my Multipronouns macro. You'll need it for this guide!
If you've followed the guide and need the code I wrote to compare to yours, here's a link to the itch.io page!
Password: romultipronouns
Guide
1. From my Github page with the code for the multipronouns, copy and paste the code pretty_multipronouns.js (code that goes into your Javascript) and multivar.txt (code that goes into your StoryInit) into a Google Docs. I recommend you add a blank page in between them so you can keep them separate from each other!
1.5. An explanation: all the code inside the Javascript and StoryInit code is specifically made to be used for one character only, the MC. Hence, all the code I used within them are generic or uses the keyword "mc", so it's built to be unique to MC.
HOWEVER. What we can do is copy the code used for MC and replace all the variables with different ones so you can use them for another character.
Let's say I have an RO with the initial X. They'll be the example I'll be using going forward! For your sake, replace the initial with your RO's initial.
2. Look at your Google Doc. The very first line of the code, if you copied the JS first and then the StoryInit code after, is something that says Macro.add("gender" and then a bunch of things after. In front of gender, prefix it with the initial of your RO—in my case, it'll look like Macro.add("x_gender"
So, instead of using the macro <<gender>> to add to MC's pronouns, you use the macro <<x_gender>> to add to X's pronouns.
If you somehow pasted in multivar.txt first and then pretty_multipronouns.js so Macro.add doesn't appear on the top of your document, Ctrl+F or CMD+F to search for Macro.add within the Google Doc.
3. NEXT, hit CTRL+H OR go under Edit > Find and Replace. It'll pull up a window asking for what you want to search, and what you want to replace those search terms with.
In our case, we'll be searching for all instances of prons in our document, and replacing them with a prefix of the RO's initials at the end. In my case, I'll replace prons with x_prons. Hit "Replace All".
4. Don't leave the window yet! We'll be staying here throughout the entire guide. Now, Find the term window.pronouns and replace it with the RO's initials prefixing "pronouns" — in my case, it'll look like window.x_pronouns. Again, REPLACE ALL.
5. Find the term arr_ and replace it with a prefix of the RO's initals. Mine will look like x_arr_ (yes, you need the underscore!). REPLACE ALL. Be careful not to hit Replace All twice.
6. Find the term mc and replace it with the RO's initials. So if it was "mc", it'll be replaced with "x". REPLACE ALL.
7. When you're done, copy and paste the Javascript code into your Story Javascript. Do not replace MC's multipronoun code if you have it there, if you want the MC to have multipronouns as well. This is the code from pretty_multipronouns.js. I recommend you add a comment as a header to indicate that the code you're pasting is for that RO.
8. Copy and paste the StoryInit code into your StoryInit. Again, this is the code from multivar.txt. Like #7, do not replace the original StoryInit code if you're also using multipronuns for the MC, just add it. I recommend you add a comment as a header to indicate that the code you're pasting is for that RO.
9. Test it! If you did everything right, it should work. Here's a test passage and the output it made, where I set the MC's pronouns to they/xe and the X's pronouns to he/she.
It should work the same as using multipronouns for the MC, you just replace the keyword mc with the initials you gave the RO throughout.
10. Want more ROs with multipronouns? Just do the steps all over again, but with different initials. So if I have an RO with the initial Y, I will redo the previous steps with Y instead of X. If I have an RO with the initial Z, same thing. Just keep making new variables and macros for each RO, so do NOT replace the previous code you made for each of them!
If for some reason your code doesn't work, I have the code I used for this guide here for you to compare it with. (Pass: romultipronouns) Feel free to ask questions through asks, replies or DMs! 💕💕
While my preference is to create a new macro to streamline the process by allowing you to create multipronouns for multiple characters with just a single macro, it'll require a lot of brainpower and time. That's a project I'm willing to consider in the future! For now, though, I hope this workaround works for you!
Thanks so much for asking :) 💕
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Any ifs where you can have multiple/ n or interchangeable pronouns!
Hi Anons!
We have a rec list with games where you can customise your pronouns, as well as a category in our database about the choice of pronouns.
As for pronouns sets, we found the following:
Bacchanal by @bacchanal-if
Fields of Asphodel by @chrysanthemumgames
Magician’s Voyage by @magiciansvoyage (3 pronoun sets)
Our Life: Now and Forever by @gb-patch
Uroboros by @uroboros-if
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I swear to god some people don't know what "I use all pronouns" means. I tell people I know irl those are my pronouns because I'm fine with people I'm not particularly close to using some of my less preferred pronouns, since I don't particularly hate anything.
But damn, sometimes I say "I use all pronouns" and people hear "I use she/her pronouns" because that is all they will use for me. Like. You do realize. All pronouns is when you are supposed to make it a game. Of how many different pronouns you can come up with, right?
Look even some of my genderqueer friends do it. It's gotten to the point where I'm starting to actively dislike she/her pronouns because they're constantly used on me. It's not misgendering to use them on me for a conversation or in passing, but if you do that exclusively for a week straight that pisses me the fuck off!! I have a right to have my goddamn pronouns respected, and that means using other pronouns.
When people pick a set and land in he/him it's fine. When they go with they/them, that's great!! But she/her is what people default to for femme presenting people and honestly? It's annoying as shit!!!! I know that this is common in people who use multiple sets of pronouns, but goddamn, you'd think that when given the entire fucking galaxy to pick from people would be more creative than the fucking default option.
I encourage people to use neopronouns on me!! It's an active thing!! But 95% of people never do. And honestly? I know damn well I'm not the only one who deals with it, which makes it even worse.
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Hey people who use multiple sets of pronouns, what metric do you use to alternate em?
Personally it's just whichever set feels right in the sentence I'm writing but I'm curious about what other multi pronoun peeps do
(Edit for clarity, I'm talking about like in reference to yourself. Like a "every other sentence" "every time a pronoun comes up" "every new thought/paragraph" when either someone else addresses you or you're just writing third person)
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can we have multiple pronouns? or can we be genderfluid?
Hello, this is a great question! ♥️
I personally consider myself to be genderfluid, so it's important for me to be able to choose my own pronouns and even switch whenever. At the moment, I've found some great templates by coders much more talented than I am who've provided code to set your own pronouns, as well as be able to change them anytime from the Settings.
I'm honestly unsure when the option appeared in the Settings to be able to do that, I must have absentmindedly implemented it somehow! I haven't properly tested it yet, but I dearly want it to be able to work so it's configurable at any point!
I might consider adding checkpoints instead so characters can organically react to these changes, but this is a little lower on my priority. For now, I just want a functional way for it to work!
For gender itself, at the moment, I don't plan for the option to outright say your gender, because I think there are far too many identities to encapsulate meaningfully. At best, you'll only get to pick your pronouns and "biology," so to speak.
In the first place, gods don't really have a gender. They don't reproduce sexually, and so it didn't naturally come forth; they merely adopted more conventional pronouns to be more in touch with humans (decreed by the goddess of the gods).
I hope this answers your question, and I'm so happy someone asked because I've been thinking exactly this! Thank you so much ♥️
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