#ndm

[moiraimyths]

can you elaborate on what you mean by romance being a social construct? just trying to understand here, because by that logic to be aromantic is to be against the social construct of romance or what most people view as romance

What does "romance" or "romantic" mean? Most people when answering that question will list specific signifiers or feelings that we commonly associate with romance or romantic feelings, but these things don't have to be romantic. They're 'coded' as romantic because we associate them with romance as a byproduct of our culture. Simple example: Kissing on the lips. Pretty safe to say this action is frequently cited as a romantic gesture. But is it objectively a romantic gesture? No. There are plenty of cultures, currently and throughout history, where kissing on the lips is not romantic. Hell, kissing in some cultures isn't a thing at all/considered unsanitary! Therefore, kissing on the lips is not objectively romantic or some universal phenomenon. It's socially constructed.

The same thing can apply to romantic feelings. First: Feelings of sexuality that often (but not always!) go toe to toe with romance are not inherently romantic. You can be attracted to someone, or be intimate with someone, and not feel romantic feelings. So we need to separate sexuality from romance. What does that leave us with? Great care for someone? A feeling of closeness? A desire to never be parted with someone? Are these feelings romantic? Yes, but they aren't always. Stripped of any other pretenses, you could easily apply those feelings to your friends or family members. What makes them romantic is socially contextual, and subjectively determined. Therefore: Romance is a social construct.

People who identify as aromantic will have different reasons for subscribing to the label. Some may be aromantic because the feelings typically associated with romance just don't happen with them, and sometimes (but not always!!!) asexuality plays a part here as well. But for other aro folk, it's not always that consistent. Maybe they do feel those feelings, but only under some circumstances. Or maybe they feel some of those feelings, but not all of them, or inconsistently, or don't really think of those feelings as romantic at all or in the moment. Romance, like sexuality, is more fluid than we tend to realize, but romance as a specific, socially determined construct can be suffocating for those who don't quite fit in the box. Especially once you start throwing in the other social expectations that romance is typically associated with: Living together, marriage, having kids, permanence, etc. In those instances, some folks may gravitate toward the aromantic label simply because they oppose the rigidness of the construct.

Ultimately, our purpose with our arospec characters (Keagan, Robin, and Daonna) is to explore these variations.

#ask #clotho answers #ndm #aromantic #edit: we're an indie gaming company making a visual novel about irish mythology. all routes can be played platonically or romantically

[oldmisfortune]

Lil Maeve illustration to try my hand at backgrounds and immersive lighting!

I really like how it turned out :)))

#my art #na daoine maithe #ndm #ndm maeve #is she ooc??? maybe #but i wanted that cheeky lil feel #it surprisingly only took me 3:30 hours #artists on tumblr #fanart #the good people #i forgot some tags hsgdjfd

[unseeliethot]

One baby Keagan, perfect for the kissing

#i want to bite him #keagan #keagan ndm #ndm

[lonely--shine]

Know your place (Maeve Troiduair)

I don't care that this meme is old, I needed to do it with Maeve my love ❤️

Not much more to say, actually. Trying to find a more quick, sketchy, simple style to do stuff like this. Everyone loves finished pieces, but they take a lot and, honestly? Sometimes a simpler style fits better for what you want. So yeah, there's that xD

#know your place #know your place meme #na daoine maithe #ndm #ndm fanart #ndm maeve #maeve troiduair #art #digital art #fanart #meme #meme redraw

[aspecsolstice]

Analysis of Clues to What Likely Caused Flan's Exile

Hi all! This post is in response to a question from the NDM Discord server that I got very carried away with answering. Instead of posting yet another lengthy wall of text on there (which I often can't help from doing, haha), I decided this was worth making into a post and trying out in the tumblr format! Especially since I'd been considering making a casual blog on here anyway. Without further ado:

Just like my dear friend Laura, I've always thought that Keagan was the reason for Flan's exile, and there are definitely strong clues in certain asks that I'd like to point to in support of that idea, even if they don't directly confirm anything.

Before I really dive into those specific clues, let me first provide my understanding of the timeline, since I might be off on a thing or two but this is how I've interpreted it:

1). For what seems to be most of the 200-year-long war, Flan acted very differently

(confirmed change by Maeve and Robin, the latter giving a timeline to it by saying he was “apparently kind of a jackass during the war”, and this is something I'll get to later, but it's worth noting this was specifically a response to a question about how he used to flirt)

2). Flan and Keagan get involved and subsequently get each other hurt in different ways sometime prior to the end of the War

(not confirmed events of course, but if true, I think the implications are that they were nearing the end and had a lot to do with it, but still prior, due to the state Flan was in:

First, Keagan was said to have “distinguished himself during the War of the Courts as someone with a knack for intrigue and espionage” with whispers of him having been involved with “the end of the War,” which can reasonably be interpreted as him having deceived and betrayed Flan to get the info he needed to help him turn the tides

And second, it was specifically said that “before the conclusion of the War,” Flan technically did cross the border into Finias, but only when “time was of the essence, and he… Well. Let’s just say he wasn’t quite in the right state of mind to take in the surroundings,” which to me speaks not only of his understandable PTSD from the horrors of such a long war but a specific state that resulted from a recent event, such as a fresh betrayal, as well as whatever wolf-form-related damage was implied to be done to Keagan in return potentially also weighing on him)

3). Then after the conclusion of the War, Flan is either formally exiled or otherwise forced by circumstance to spend time away from the new Unseelie capital

I tried to keep the above to just establishing the timeline of the events I'd like to discuss, but with that done, I'm ready to get more into the meat of the evidence heavily implying that not only did Flan change as a result of betrayal by a lover during the War, but that he was publicly shamed in some way over the relationship, supporting the idea that it had far more impactful repercussions than a broken heart alone and led to his exile.

The strongest implications are found in three responses to asks about how Flan used to flirt, starting with the one where Maeve acknowledges his change and says, “I’m not happy about how he ended up learning some of the lessons he did, but it’s best to leave the past in the past, in some cases.” I touched on Robin's response earlier, but I'd like to pull a later quote from that same ask where they caution, “This is going to sound a little strange coming from me, but I’d avoid giving the guy a hard time over it, if I were you.” The echo and weight of these two responses, especially considering the latter to be such an uncharacteristically serious one from Robin, imply that these “lessons” Flan learned in regards to his flirting involved pretty severe consequences.

Then there's the glaring fact that Robin isn't even speaking from firsthand experience here (given how she wasn't around during the War), and Flan is not really the kind of person to confide in him about such personal matters willingly (nor would Maeve be the one to spill Flan's secrets if he confided them in her), raising the important question of how Robin came to be so knowledgeable about it in the first place. However, I believe this is answered in a third such ask about Flan's past flirting, where the dev statement to me suggests that not just Robin, but the public as a whole is at least partially aware of the situation.

They might not know the details, but something appears to be known based on the statement that, “Most folks are too intimidated to flirt with the Unseelie King, especially given… Well, never mind. Let’s just say Flannán was not always so austere nor hesitant to trust affection. For better or worse, he’s changed quite a bit since the War.” In addition to further supporting the idea of Flan having been betrayed by a lover during that time (specifically being left unable to “trust” the way he could before), this quote speaks volumes about what's being left unsaid when it intentionally trails off, especially when paired with tags on a different post that again emphasize how Flan is “#man's not as willing to display vulnerability these days #particularly so to the public.”

When you combine all the clues, these are clear indications to me that whatever changed Flan was not only traumatic and romance-related but somehow a relatively well-known affair (i.e. to the point that Robin finds out post-war and treats it seriously, that it apparently makes “most folks” even more hesitant to flirt with him, and that Flan is now painfully mindful of the public's perception of him as a result), implying that at least some degree of public shame over the relationship was involved.

Under the KeaFlan interpretation, there are many different possibilities for how this could have played out (no way to know whether it took place when Keagan's betrayal was first discovered or later near the time of Flan's exile, what person or situation actually outed Flan in the public eye, how much was revealed, how many were actually there to witness it vs how much was spread by word of mouth, etc.). Regardless, the bottom line is that it would make perfect sense as the kind of affair he might be publicly shamed over and face consequences for, due to the betrayal impacting far more than just Flan on a personal level by granting the Seelie a turning point in the War.

This situation thus lines up with the timing and all of the beats of what's been established or implied, as well as naturally providing a case for why Lugaid would go to such an extreme as exile to punish his chosen successor:

From his perspective, not only did Flan's “weakness” give the Seelie the edge in the first place, but he then failed to redeem himself by turning things back in the Unseelie's favor before the War ended. On top of that, Lugaid might see fit to distance himself from Flan due to the latter bringing public disgrace depending on how that played out (though I'm not discounting the possibility of Lugaid himself being the one to shame him in the interest of “teaching him a lesson,” it just seems likely he'd want to handle it privately if possible, to keep from publicly undermining his legacy).

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Also, for fun as a quick added bonus, I did find what I believe to be another clue relating to Flan's exile, but this one relates to his life post-exile. I don't have any particularly strong leanings on exact location (though I loved reading the ideas people had on Discord!), but after this find, I'm definitely of the belief that Maeve was with him, if not for the entire exile then at least for some amount of time right before his return. As we know, Robin was not around for the war, and it's said that they “'joined' the Unseelie Court prior to Maeve and Flannán returning to the capital.”

“Returning to the capital” is vague enough that it wouldn't have to mean returning together from Flan's exile, such as if the two had been on a short trip away. Even so, I think it's likely, given how this particular return to the capital is being framed as something significant to the timeline.

#the good people #na daoine maithe #ndm

[mango512]

Some colored sketches I made of my mc from the gorgeous looking upcoming visual novel Na Daoine Maithe by @moiraimyths !! (Their demo is on Steam!!! Go check it out!! IT’S SO GOOD!!)

Seeing as the mc is a working class human from Ireland in the 19th century, I drew her as she’d look when she stumbles upon Tír na nÓg in the first picture, and then the second is her after some time in the world having gotten to know the love interests!!

#art #digital art #fanart #characters #ndm #na daoine maithe #the good people #Ndm mc #the good people mc #visual novels #visual novel #dating sim #drawings #sketches #procreate #otome #otome game #drawing #sketch #character #character design #character designs

[bella-daonna]

Flannán's Five-Day Festival

Hi everyone!

Since it’s the unseelie king’s birthday coming up, me, @unseelie-grimalkin and @unseeliethot (are you noticing a bias in usernames?) thought it would be fun to make a fan event for it!

How it works:

Each day from the 17-21st December has two prompts. Pick one (or both if you want, I guess) and make something based on it. Some examples include: art, fic/ story, headcanon, mood board, playlist - anything you like!

You don’t have to do every prompt or every day - there’s no pressure and it’s just for fun. Interpret the prompts however you like!

Tag what you make as #flannan fest 2022 so that we can see it!

The prompts:

17th December: Treat / Pack

18th December: Fall / Snow

19th December: Sanctuary / Competition

20th December: Talent / Craft

21st December: Lá Breithe Shona Dhuit a Fhlannáin!*

(*Happy Birthday Flannán! - this is a free space. Do whatever you like!)

We're so excited to see your creations!

ps thank you grim for making the lovely banner graphic, and thank you @officialshaefearglas for the idea since we were inspired by Shae Weekend back in summer!

pps i will be following the tag, but feel free to tag me in your stuff if you want to make sure i see it and reblog! :)

ppps if you want to post but you are shy, feel free to send it to me or submit it to me and I can post on anon for you! (specify that you want it to be anonymous!)

Any questions, my asks are open 🥳

#na daoine maithe #otome game #visual novel #ndm #ndm flannan #the good people #flannan fest 2022 #oc #flannan

[m1shapanda]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY KEAGAN!! he's from "The Good People" by @moiraimyths !!

#ndm keagan #ndm #the good people #keagan #fanart #my art #digital art #visual novel #interactive fiction #HE IS SO DHDKDNDKD

[melinoethenightmareartist]

Intro

Guess I should probably actually use this account… Hi, I'm Melinoe, goddess of nightmares and ghosts. Also the Environment Designer/Background artist for @moiraimyths I'll post some art here occasionally, probably. Also, I guess if you wanna ask anything about the game's background art I'm here. K bye.

#ndm #the good people #na daoine maithe #moirai myths

[shrimp1y]

modern ay yew where they are roommates. shenanigans ensues

#ndm #na daoine maithe #moirai myth #ndm flannan #ndm robin #game not even out yet and im alr fuckin around #my art #robin would say what pussy size r u queen even though they may or may not have one themselves #flannan jsut escaped the country life with his conservative family he's trying to unlearn his toxic masculinity #and immediately is roomed with the 'lgbtq+ all at once' person #nobody knows what robin is. its the gender euphoria for me #robin themselvces don't clarify they sometimes even introduce themselves with a fake name #what makes u think u can trust anythin they say #they would stroll up on campus on boxers and a skateboard #ppl r like are u an art student? and they are like haha no i major in quantum physics babie! #flan is the art student. #and yeah theyre tatted

[robin-goatfellow]

Flannán: We need to distract these guys.

Robin: Leave it to me.

Robin: Centaurs have six limbs and are therefore insects. Discuss.

Aífe, Keagan, and Shae: *Immediately begin arguing*

Maeve, watching in horror: Oh, this. I don’t like this. I don't like this at all.

#incorrect ndm quotes #ndm #robin goodfellow #shae fearglas #flannan mac lugh #keagan maistiruin #maeve troiduair #aife ealabhan

[moiraimyths]

FEB 1, 2023: KICKSTARTER FOR THE GOOD PEOPLE (NA DAOINE MAITHE) HAS ENDED!

Thank you to our 776 backers for allowing us to bring this project to life, and reach our side stories stretch goal! We hope that you love what we have in store! Stay tuned, fateful friends!

The Good People (Na Daoine Maithe) is a lore-rich, choice-driven visual novel inspired by Irish mythology and Celtic folklore. Play as an Irish tenant farmer from the mid-19th century, whose path becomes inexplicably entwined with fairy affairs after getting robbed by the roadside and lured into the mythic and war-torn world of Tír na nÓg: A once unified land, now divided into the Seelie and Unseelie Courts. Will you escape with your stolen belongings? Or does fate have something else in mind?

Our Full Game will Feature:

Six Character Routes: There will be six character routes in total, each one exploring the individual stories of our diverse cast of Love Interests (LIs)! There are two men, two women, and two non-binary folk to choose from. Half of our cast is aspec, as well!

Secret Story Route: If you play through all six character routes, you'll unlock the secret story route! It's designed to tie up the broader narrative aspects of the game, and you can choose which character route is "canon" to your play through!

Flexible MC: Choose your preferred name and pronouns (including neo pronouns) and romance whomever you please! (We even have a stretch goal to customize MC's sprite appearance, too!)

Platonic Options: Not into romance, or don't want to romance them all? Not to worry! All routes can be played platonically.

Multiple Endings: Each route has two endings based on the health of your relationship with the LI, regardless of whether it's romantic or platonic.

English-Gaeilge Lexicon: Our game features translatable Gaeilge (Irish) words and phrases, and in the full game, translations will be voiced for ease of pronunciation!

Voice Acting: The main cast will have limited voice acting in the full game. Check our Kickstarter page periodically for voice actor reveals and samples!

Other Features (Stretch Goals): Side stories in-between route releases.

While we develop the full game, be sure to try out our FREE DEMO out now on Steam and Itch.io! Make sure to Wishlist our game on Steam as well!

#moirai myths #the good people #na daoine maithe #ndm #otome #visual novel #dating sim #interactive fiction #english otome #otome romance #otome game #romance visual novel #visual storytelling #visual story #romance game #dating game #interactive story #interactive art #kickstarter

[oldmisfortune]

I didn't think this was post worthy but I got peer pressured into posting it none the less ;;;;;;;

#i hope y'all are happy >:( #i did it >:( #i posted it >:( #ok imma stop bitching now dhdghdjd #the response and support i got for this on discord was amazing #I can't thank you enough ;;;;; #my art #ndm #i think it's not that good BAHHAHAHAHA

[unseeliethot]

The Lovers - The Devil

Could i put more effort in to make these more tarot-y, sure, am i going to absolutely not one of these took 12 hours as is

There's 0 symbolism in the lovers beyond haha tits BUT in the devil

In the og tarot card, it depicts a couple with chains loose around their necks tying them to the devils altar, signifying that their sin is their own choice. I cut out the middle man with Keagan and Pasha, and chained them to each other instead. The choice part of it comes from an exchange of metals for them instead, Keagan wears Hypatia's silver for his collar while Hypatia wears gold.

I did also note while doing the shitty shitty sketch that Hypatia's arms form a pentagon, and with pentagons its so easy to make a pentagram. I fucked it when resizing the image but whatever, connecting her elbows, hands, and shoulder you get a pentagram.

Further from there, Hypatia's motif is more the full moon, but using a crescent moon let me give her devil horns. So I did that.

#ndm #na daoine maithe #keagan ndm #flannan ndm #keagan #flannan #hypatia

[lonely--shine]

Back to the Wall

Naomh learns she can tease a certain King with her height. King Flannán can't say he's mad about it.

This was supposed to be a doodle but then it got massively out of hand and I turned it into a full fledged thing instead. Call it practice or something. I just needed to draw a flustered Flannán, this drawing is the main reason why Naomh even exists if I'm being honest, lol! First drawing of many with my NDM OCs plus the cast, hopefully! A way to keep myself entertained until the routes come out xD

Oh, by the by! Tip Jar tier supporters have access to a version of this with Flannán NOT wearing the eyepatch (aside from the WIPs, full size, and all the usual). You know, just in case you're curious about that 👀

#na daoine maithe #the good people #ndm #fanart #ndm fanart #ndm eireanach #ndm mc #ndm flannan #flannan mac lugh #art #digital art #artwork #drawing #illustration #kabedon

[the-clockwork-three]

ROs' names in ogham

Ogham is the first writing system in Ireland, first used in to write Primitive Irish. It is usually seen carved into ancient standing stones found around the country.

So anyway I thought it would be appropriate to write the Na Daoine Maithe characters' names in it. Ogham is read from bottom to top, and due to Tumblr tomfoolery, you may have to click the image to see the name in full.

Not everything transliterates literally however. There are no fadas in ogham, so Aífe and Flannán lost fada privileges. Keagan is technically written as "Ceagan" due to the lack of the letter "k". There also is no letter "v" in Irish so I wrote Meave's name in my personal favourite way, "Meabhdh".

Bonus! Tadhg (my MC)

#na daoine maithe #ndm #the good people #ndm keagan #ndm robin #ndm aife #ndm maeve #ndm flannan #ndm shae #I never want to draw a straight line again #Also I know it looks terrible #but my handwritten ones look worse #I dont know where you would use these but I just made them because I think ogham is neat #please dont take this too seriously I am not an expert #Im just coping from the internet #there is serious debate from serious people about what each character repersents