#ned was right

[laniidae-passerine]

Our Flag Means Death Season 2 Episodes 6 + 7 Reductress Headlines

#I love this silly show and the gay drama. it’s like I’m right back there. in secondary school #also the Jim/Olu/Archie dance was so cute but WHAT was roach doing in the back #man was LIVING #ofmd #our flag means death #ofmd headlines #reductress #reductress headlines #gentlebeard #blackbonnet #edward teach #ed teach #blackbeard #stede bonnet #izzy hands #stizzy #ned low #jim jimenez #oluwande boodhari #archie ofmd #tealoranges #zheng yi sao #prince ricky #lucius spriggs #black pete #lupete #wee john feeney #roach ofmd #fang ofmd

[crownspeaksblog]

It's "be gay, do crime" until it's stede bonnet killing someone who tortured and kept insulting the man he loves..

#stede was 100% right for killing ned also he looked hot doing it so.. I'm definitely on his side! #ofmd #ofmd s2 #our flag means death #ofmd spoilers #blackbonnet #stede bonnet #👑

[gtasideblog]

actual tweets from ned luke, the actor who played michael de santa.

#the HORROR when i found these #like he’s right or whatever but WHAT. #trikey #ned luke #gta 5 #grand theft auto 5 #grand theft auto v #grand theft auto #gta v #michael de santa #michael townley #gta #trevor philips

[lycorim]

You're so right girlboss I want to see you get worse

#girlboss what are you doing!!! I want to study you in a lab!!!! #asoiaf #valyrianscrolls #fanart #ned stark #agot #cersei lannister #my art #she's sooo funny like cersei is the /only/ person in the world who would even consider seducing Ned Stark #especially like THAT #grade A Cersei moment right there

[pr]

#dude i am so fucking sad right now. #try guys #ned fulmer #op

[nightswatchdisbandmentera]

It’s interesting how Ned Stark’s dishonor has such far reaching implications throughout the plot. There’s a great irony in how rigid he is in his honor, yet he too fell victim to lust just as many men have before him. It’s not such a big deal if you think about it. I mean, all he did was to father a bastard, and how many men of his station have done the same? So it gives comfort to the rest of Westeros that even an honorable fool like Ned can stoop so low and be just like them. And we see that Ned’s dishonor affects so many characters. Jon Snow internalizes that he’s the shameful product of it and that causes him to join a penal colony, forever driving his need to prove that he too can be a worthy son of Ned. Catelyn Stark is constantly grappling with what it means to be a victim of it (to the point that she resents Jon and fears for her own children’s claims). It’s something that Jaime Lannister references in captivity, reasoning that he at least remained faithful to Cersei whereas “honorable” Ned Stark cheated on his lady wife. Robb probably saw the effects of Ned’s dishonor on his mother and brother, which probably drove him to break his marriage pact with the Freys and marry Jeyne Westerling (something that hastened his doom). Even Cersei dares to make a sexual pass at Ned while being accused of treason, no doubt emboldened in part by the knowledge that Ned at one point fell to lust. And everyone else knows of Ned Stark’s bastard (to the point that Davos gets some random exposition about how Ned dishonored himself on a fisherman’s daughter). Ned’s one act of dishonor is one of his most recognizable character traits and actually has a lot of implications throughout he narrative as it drives how many characters navigate the world around them. So isn’t it funny how it was all a lie?

#asoiaf #eddard stark #its so interesting how ned had to bring dishonor to himself to do the right thing #and how that essentially caused a ripple of effects throughout westeros #GRRM’s pitch letter makes reference to Jon’s parentage coming to light #so I’d be interested in seeing who will be left to learn the truth #and how that will cause people to act and rethink a few things #for jon especially since lbr Ned’s dishonor is all about him and affects him on a far greater scale #but also for people like jaime who have the topic of honor come up in their narratives #not as a gotcha moment but more of a “huh so that happened” type of thing #jon snow #catelyn stark #jaime lannister #cersei lannister #robb stark #valyrianscrolls

[atopvisenyashill]

not to keep harping on but definitely the complaint i see that really sticks in my craw is that the only reason or the main reason robb planned to banish catelyn to seaguard was because of their argument over jon. it’s certainly a factor but they have spent the entire war arguing over every decision robb makes! ned tells robb “keep your mother in your council” but robb really does not! he has her there, yes, he lets her speak, yes, but oftentimes he will disregard her advice without any appeasement, misstep badly, and be worse off politically in the exact way she warned him of. she’s not the only person he blows off - he’s not exactly nice to edmure either, for example - but cat is right when she suspects there’s an element of “kings are not supposed to have mothers” and “wedded to his war" and she clocks this long before the argument over jon! robb tries to get rid of her at the beginning of a clash of kings when all cat has done is urge him to continue peaceful negotiations with the lannisters!

robb is angry because he’s in over his head and he knows it, and it's got very little to do with jon! robb is losing this war and his best friend was the son of a man who crowned himself and lost the war!! robb knows exactly what’s going to happen to the north if he loses and despite everything, he cannot seem to win despite being a near prodigy in battle tactics. and here his mother has been this whole time, fighting him on every front - just like the lords but he cant punish them for disagreeing can he? - and being so frustratingly right about more things than his lords, and now they’re picking at this wound in their family that has never been allowed to heal and a lot of resentment that both robb and catelyn are feeling at their general situation gets focused in on each other. this is such a tully thing too (pls remember these are canonically unpleasant people!) because look at lysa projecting years of resentment onto sansa, look at the entire cat, hoster, edmure situation, or even hoster & blackfish’s relationship. family is so important to them but in times of stress, “doing everything for family” becomes an anchor pulling them down, until the only thing left is to lash out at each other.

most of the lords are happy to let this nonsense play out! catelyn does not even have the privilege maege & dacey mormont do at being head of their own house - she’s just a wife, just a mother, just a first born daughter. when she disagrees, they don’t see an equal arguing with them, they see a woman sticking her nose where it doesn’t belong. they do not give a single solitary shit about like, ~the plight of bastards~ they just believe, like robb, that sansa is currently “tainted” by her marriage to a lannister and can’t be allowed to inherit, that arya is dead, that the boys are dead, that jeyne is not yet pregnant, and a bastard boy castle raised who looks like ned is better than no boy at all (see edric storm, addam of hull, and larence snow). these men have not spent the last fourteen years cooking in their resentment over this situation the way catelyn and robb have!

jon is a reason. but so is rickard karstark, jaime lannister, willem lannister, tion frey, renly baratheon, walder frey, and theon greyjoy. ned is a reason as well, and bran, sansa, rickon, arya, hoster, edmure, perhaps even lysa and sweetrobin. jon is the final straw but robb isn’t (only) sending catelyn away because of some righteous fury on his brother’s behalf! he’s sending her away because she is an easy, socially acceptable target for all his frustrations and failures and fears that he can project on, and punish, in a way he cannot punish his enemies, his lords, or himself.

and catelyn is as always very aware of the deeper motivations in her son’s mind, and resentful that she doesn’t have the power to push back; she’s just a mother, after all.

#getting on my soap box #robb stark #catelyn stark #valyrianscrolls #catelyn stark defense squad #cat/robb and ned/sansa/arya are the most interesting & realistic depictions of mother/son and father/daughter relationships send tweet #like the jon snow of it all is always relevant. but she is also right that she’s being punished for being a woman who won’t shut up. just b #some of her advice (SOME! NOT MOST!) is sketch or not good doesn’t mean they’re not punishing her. it’s not like edmure gives good advice! #but guess which tully is sent away!!!!!! edmure gets to have flaws. he gets to be wrong. catelyn does not. #motherhood #mothers and sons #gender politics in asoiaf

[long-claw]

there's a very small but distinct change from book to show in s3e9 that i think is fascinating. right before the red wedding, catelyn and roose bolton are discussing edmure and roslin's bedding ceremony, and when bolton references catelyn's own bedding, she says this:

"Oh, Ned forbade it. He said it wouldn't be right if he broke a man's jaw on our wedding night."

whereas in the book, not only does this conversation not happen, but catelyn specifically recounts her bedding happening and makes no mention of ned being opposed at all.

i don't know for sure why this change was made but if i had to guess i'd say it was at least partly to make ned more likable to a modern audience. it's almost as if they were trying to make ned fit his reputation "better" but i actually think it misunderstands it completely.

ned is known throughout westoros as being "honourable", within westoros culture. the bedding ceremony isn't seen as being "dishonourable", it's tradition. ned going against that wouldn't add to his honourable reputation, it would make him some weird progressive guy that shuns tradition.

but the one time he does shun tradition is by bringing jon home and giving him a place in his family, and i think the change in the show takes away from just how strange that was for ned to do. ned stark conforms to tradition perfectly, except for that one smudge.

#me?? complaining about the show again?? #so glad i remembered this right #cause the last time i looked for a book show difference #i had made it up in my head #ned stark #catelyn stark #catelyn tully #jon snow #roose bolton #game of thrones #got #s3e9 #asoiaf #asos

[francy-sketches]

asoiaf twitter is so cool you can say 'I think the way you guys talk about gnc women is kinda weird can you maybe stop that' and you'll get people calling you a freak and a bitch

#.txt #yeah man very hinged response that makes you seem normal keep it up #my favorite was 'baela's already a tomboy why do you need more' you're right sorry I'm being greedy #by that logic you already have plenty of girly girls you'll be fine without rhaenyra #'but she wore pretty dresses she cant possibly have any sort of difficult relationship with gender' wait till you find out about cersei #btw guess who also wears pretty clothes and jewelry. like every nobleman ever #ned's such a girlygirl he loves fashion and dressing prettily (female trait)

[sistersgrimm]

lost focus and had a consensual workplace relationship

#the good place #tgp #try guys #ned fulmer #i wasn't the only one who saw this right

[eldintower]

i think it's super interesting how the perception of ned as a kind man hinges in part on the absence of theon, in regards to character, in agot. it'd be no surprise to anyone to say that theon's development in agot is. not there. We get all of ned in agot and it's only after ned's death when not only do we get theon's pov, but he becomes a character, not to mention one more pov who has.. complicated feelings towards ned. ned is across the sea from dany; theon was raised in the lair, so to speak. a neat contrast of umm constant anxiety & restlessness vs claustrophobia. i think. you're being chased vs you're trapped. also, the distance between the readers knowledge & the characters knowledge—we know ned wouldn't willingly hurt dany, but she doesn't, and that matters. we don't know if ned would've even killed theon, and even if he wouldn't have, theon doesn't know that, and that matters. anyways, back to the point i was making—it's almost this accidental commentary on theon. theon became a character after ned was out of the picture, theon came to life after ned died, so on and so forth, he wasn't a person when he held ned's longsword. if theon was even halfway realized in agot, what would ned seem like? his... indifference to theon suddenly made cold and cruel (just like how people see him!), and not just a result of the author, which it objectively is? something something ned left winterfell and never returned and theon, still alive, now haunts it. i like it a lot. accidental impact. the #theonlongcon

#valyrianscrolls #if this is the right tag #yes i'm making thr statement 'the perception of ned as a kind man' seemingly without nuance. it's 2:09 AM and you know what i mean. #I'm ned's biggest fan. if you even care. #theon greyjoy #TAGGING IN CASE ANYONE SEES THIS AND HAS THOUGHTS..

[amber-laughs]

i’d be sooo pissed at benjen if i was ned in the afterlife. i had our nephew for 14 years and he was perfectly safe. you had him for two weeks immediately died then jon died like are you serious???

#and FUCK ALLISER THORNE #he’s not really relevant right now but he deserves a lashing #asoiaf crack #but not really crack bc it’s true #valyrianscrolls #jon snow #benjen stark #ned stark #nights watch #game of thrones #castle black

[di-glossia]

Really not a fan that "lost focus and had a consensual workplace relationship" is being memed because so many people don't seem to realize it's in reference to a wildly inappropriate boss-employee relationship and not, like, two people who got overly distracted by their relationship.

Reframing it this way is exactly what Ned wants. He wants you to think it's a branding problem and not a Title VII issue. He wants you to ignore the power dynamics. He's trying to salvage his reputation and mocking his deliberate word choices for the wrong reason just helps him.

#why are so many people getting this wrong #it's not all wife guys are lying #it's not i ruined my brand #it's i entered into a relationship that can never be fully consensual and my company did the right thing #try guys #ned fulmer

[emmaschampagneproblems]

The audacity these mediocre men have cheating on their absolutely beautiful wives

#try guys #the try guys #ned fulmer #ariel fulmer #eugene lee yang #keith habersberger #zach kornfeld #buzzfeed #ex buzzfeed #youtube #youtube drama #drama #men suck #womens rights #women are hot #women are beautiful #funny memes #funny #funny stuff

[leupagus]

leupagus: You know what I just realized and I cannot believe this isn't more of a plot point

leupagus: but winterfell STINKS

leupagus: because of the hot springs

leupagus: it's wall to wall sulfur!

leupagus: I have to incorporate this somehow into this fic

leupagus: does sansa notice when she comes back north or are all northerners smellblind to this

leupagus: god what if the First Men have like a genetic thing

leupagus: where they can't smell sulfur

leupagus: or it's like cilantro and they think sulfur smells GOOD

leupagus: the stark kids all got the stark genes there thank god

leupagus: lol what if that' the real test of sansa being lady of winterfell

leupagus: "smell this water"

leupagus: god now I gotta wheatgoogle hot springs

mardia: They can’t ALL smell like sulfur surely

leupagus: I mean it's funnier if they do

mardia: Lololololol

leupagus: winterfell's kitchens are built around the one spring that's literally boiling 24/7

leupagus: everyone who visits is like "oh god this smells so bad" for the first like three days until they get acclimated

leupagus: northern food is extremely popular everywhere else in westeros because once you take the FUCKING SULFUR out of it it tastes great

leupagus: but then you GET to north and it's like, why is this broccoli so sad

#game of thrones #I've researched this in the books and I COULD BE RIGHT #the only time ned ever references sulfur he's in King's Landing so maybe he's no longer used to it! #I AM JUST SAYING THIS WOULD BE FUNNY #game of thrones motherfuckers #got: bitches get stuff done

[autisticaradiamegido]

day 127

as someone who would one day grow up to be asexual and death obsessed, i think pushing daisies did something to me as a kid

#day 127 #year 4 #aradia megido #sollux captor #arasol #homestuck #pushing daisies au #i went back and forth on which of them was gonna be ned vs chuck #but i think this was the right call. sollux is a lot less of a polite lad than ned but he IS full of anxiety at like all times. so. #anyway what a good fucking show #truly formative media for me