#need to get up early anyway

[upon-the-snow]

early mornings after nightmares

#just realized I made a pinned post with this art before putting it up whyyy am I like this #anyway headcanon time: I like to think they hang out while the sun comes up after the doctor has a nightmare and they just sit and talk #or Donna will read and just keep him company (I love watching the sun rise it’s such a unique feeling! i suck at getting up early tho lol) #Doctor who #fourteenth doctor #donna noble #I need like. A platonic ship name do we have one of those for them? #my art #not super happy with it but ITS DONE #doctor who fanart #the doctor #catherine tate #david tennant #procreate #Digital art #uh #incase my handwriting is as illegible as I think : Donna’s says “worlds best mum” and the Doctor’s says “worlds okayest uncle” #okay this looks more like a sunset so??

[starflungwaddledee]

did you know that coo is canonically lonely? {shipaganza prompt by @veveisveryuncool}

#my art #my comics #starstruck dee #coo kirby #🎀💖 #i think it would be hard being nocturnal when all your friends are diurnal and go to sleep early! i think it WOULD be lonely #in my headcanons waddle dees generally tend to go to bed early. like many other things about her starstruck's an outlier in that regard #she's often up at night stargazing when she can't sleep; but she is also the sort to tucker out suddenly and crash #also i think that coo CAN have a cozy little tree hollow with amenities! and stairs; so that his non-winged friends can visit anytime! #and the important one: is this canon to her storyline? not sure. i think... unlikely. but even if it was it might be a bit one-sided. #he's unlikely to confess to her (awake) face and she's dense as lead. you need to be really upfront with her or you'll get nowhere. #anyway. did i do it?? is this 💝Rhomance💝? #what if i wrote a four and a half page comic where coo the owl pined over my oc?? could anybody stop me? i think not! #“romantic comic about an owl and a circle” <- another banger comment left by veve and i think it about sums it up

[brother-emperors]

Slavery and Roman Literary Culture, Sandra R. Joshel

#i have a small collection of texts on greek & roman slavery in the late republic era and the early empire from doing #a bunch of research for a spartacus comic and this is something that rattles around in my head constantly #i dont have a reading tag bc i have a sideblog for that but hey! what's the point of a blog if not to post on it #anyway! horrific! that one quote from the spartacus documentary. that the worst thing was to 'get used to it.' #there's a previous part in this text about the assimilation of identity and the violence of benevolence etc #(i also had to do a lot of this for the crassus comic and unlocked a new debate about his wealth that keeps me up at night for other reason #like. i need a map. actually i need several maps and a spanish dictionary) #roman slavery tag

[kimbapisnotsushi]

okay no see the thing that made me really, really sad about hinata and the thing that made me really, really root for him and love him and want to see him win it all was how, like, people kept DENYING him. and i'm not talking about spectators in the stands going "omg he's so short haha, can he really do anything?" i'm talking about how his own team and how everyone who knew them in some way - as much as i love them - could never really separate him from kageyama. they were the freak quick duo, karasuno's number nine and number ten. they were amazing! so brilliant, the two of them. and hinata thought it was a way out, at first. he thought it was a way over the summit. he thought it was the key to being someone better.

but a key goes both ways, you know. it can lock you up just as much as it can set you free.

and hinata had to be so, so frustrated. everyone was finding ways to move forward except him. everyone expected him to stay stuck. and you could argue that that's not entirely true, sure, that he was always training, always trying to catch up, and they encouraged that. but nobody ever expected him to be more. nobody ever expected him to go beyond what he had with kageyama - they all thought that was enough for hinata. they thought he was fine like that because it worked for the rest of them. they underestimated how much he wanted to be capable. they didn't get how much he wanted to stand on his own two feet.

and that wasn't fair to hinata! it wasn't fair that hinata, who loved to play and loved the game and loved volleyball so so much, was the only one being left behind! he wanted to change that but nobody was trying with him!!! so of course he got impatient!! of course he was reckless!!! of course he was carving his own opportunities!!! there was no way forward otherwise!!! because if we take a minute to think about how training would have gone while kageyama was at tokyo, let's be honest — it probably wouldn't have gone well. nobody else can do with hinata what kageyama could do with him. hinata would have been held back. he would have felt useless. practicing serves and receives was stuff he was already doing constantly before that, and it wasn't teaching him anything. yeah hinata was a little bit selfish and a little bit shameless but being so finally got him somewhere!!

all hinata ever wanted to do was fly, even if it meant straying from the flock to do so

#anyways lesson learned: when you've exhausted all other options then just fucking go for it #what's the worst that could happen #you either get shit done or you don't #ball boy arc is sooooo important and i hate when ppl treat it like hinata was just being stupid #he was FED UP!!! #washijo sure as hell wasn't going to let him prove anything so he had to do it himself #and hinata actually showed a LOT of restraint for how he actually is imo #he accepted washijo's decision so easily. i think he knew in a way. that he wouldn't have been accepted #but he had to try SOMETHING bc he wasn't getting anywhere with everyone else!!!! #and my heart breaks whenever i think about taking suga taking kageyama's part in the early part of the story #about them not needing to try anything new or do anything risky so close to the tournament #hinata was so fucking shackled and that's why brazil was so good for him #it gave him a chance to grow into himself #ALSO EVERYONE KEEPS ACTING SURPRISED WHEN HE GETS BETTER AND BETTER WHEN THAT'S ALL HE EVER WANTED HELLO #hinata shouyou #haikyuu #haikyuu!! #haikyuu meta #sou says stuff

[poorly-drawn-mdzs]

Okay, random question but in the panel where Lan Zhan & Wei Ying are riding side by side, why is Alan Zhan’s horse sad? Is Little Apple bullying him? :(

PS: I check in daily for your posts, OBSESSED 😭

Alan Zhan (patron saint of when the substitute professor gets your name wrong).

#poorly drawn mdzs #ask #MDZS #wei wuxian #lan wangji #mdzs au #I was going to give a serious answer but then I saw Alan Lan #I gotta warn you all; if it was not already evident - I am the biggest instigator of 'typo in the group chat' hazing #be warned (affectionate (non-threatening (a little threatening))) #Shout out to everyone with a non-western standard name who went to a western school and had their name constantly butchered #shout out to everyone who goes by/went by a nickname because 'people don't mess it up' #I *see* you. May you find Solstice in St. Alan Zhan's arms #whether wwx snuck into the class early to change the attendance sheet is is innocent is up to your interpretation #he's just enjoying the class president (and his academic rival) lose his cool #i dont have a ton of modern au thoughts but I do love the teen era dynamic of ‘smart class clown and smart nephew of headmaster’ rivalry #idk how it was at other people’s schools but the viciousness of being in the top 5 in class was a bloodbath at mine #The *Drama* between top students was wild. Validictorian selection was basically done at knife point #anyways; who’s writing teen wangxian modern AU where they are rivals for the valedictorian spot? #getting to know each other just to win but then actually enjoying the tome spent together #they both need to win and be the best sooooo bad; I cant imagine such a story ends well #wow we got far from Alan Zhan in the tags #Thank you for your on going support! I hope you don't mind me teasing you a bit like this tumblr user deathoverdignity #comic proper resumes tomorrow!

[crescentfool]

What are your ryomina headcanons? I've loved these two since I played P3 FES, and I'm so excited to get back into the fandom^^

hi!! thank you so much for the ask, welcome back to the p3 fandom, it's always a delight to see new and old ryomina fans alike! 🥺💛💙

as for headcanons, here's a "few" i that i tend to come back to a lot! my interpretations of them are influenced from both the source material and other's fanworks, so i've linked to them as i saw fit! hcs in no particular order under the cut because oops this got long (900 word bullet point list, mentions of reload content up to 1/1)

minato's hair is dyed blue (hair originally brown, you can see it in his roots!) and he has a beauty mark on under his left eye. i like mirror imagery and there's definitely a few arts i've rb'd that portray them this way :) (e.g. this one by feliichu and this one by marasschino)

as far as i'm concerned the bathhouse scene from the manga where ryoji's hair down = similar shape to minato? that is canon to me. this art from xierru is a fun depiction of hair down ryoji :D

ryoji is homeless. everyone say thank you foxmulder_whereartthou for this awesome fic it's why i have the headcanon! but like seriously. we have no idea where ryoji lives and i could believe this.

minato dying at the end of the game is sad to an outsider's POV BUT!!! ryomina gets to be together in death for the rest of their lives (this illustration from mafuwara is a gorgeous representation of them as nyx avatar + the seal)!

speaking of the seal, they are like telepathically communicating to me in the great seal together. (mymp3 had a comic wip with this. give it a looksie :D)

ryoji likes cuddling with minato because he's warm :) (something something orpheus has fire affinity, minato is warm by extension and ryoji is cold because he's death)

ryoji's camera roll is filled with pictures of minato! ryoji... loves life, to me. and i feel that photography and journaling are perfect ways of expressing gratitude and capturing the moments in life that are most important to you :3

my other favorite activity for these two is stargazing- i feel like it's something they could appreciate either in life or death (looking at the stars from the great seal...)! they do a bit of this in the fic eurydice's vow by crescentmoontea (P5R spoilers, takes place in third sem it's a very fun fic concept).

between ryoji and minato i feel like ryoji was the one who fell in love first- and it doesn't really click in place for minato that he loves ryoji until december hits (appriser reveal + ryoji transforming into thanatos). its about the realization that ryoji was with him for his whole life and that he gets him like no one else does.

ryoji is like a sad and wet puppy who is so scared minato won't like him back. he is so scared of being rejected by minato to me like. this boy straight up deflates after he does his "i know i said i wanted us to be friends, but... i actually want to be something more." / "what about you?" on 12/1 ???

AND SPEAKING of wet puppy ryoji. ryoji is like. every animal in the world to me. he's a bird. he's a cat. etc. and also ryoji knows every language in the world ever and uses it to express his love for minato. see this fic from superheroics to see what i mean.

both of them are lactose intolerant. "this isn't lactose, it's milk!" i definitely think ryoji would make himself sick eating ice cream and milk he doesn't know what lactose is. (i made a silly poll about this once and the tags were very entertaining.)

i see minato as transmasc or nonbinary depending on the day (schrodinger's headcanons babey they're simultaneously true and not true at the same time!!). either way he's not cis to me and ryoji is like. His Gender. anyway go read this fic by nail_gun for t4t ryomina :D !

ryomina are WEIRD GUYS TO ME!!! they are so strange and they understand each other better than anyone else because of the circumstances of their relationship!!! if you asked them to do the "i wonder what i taste like" meme i think they'd start biting each other (affectionate) tbh but that's just me.

after ryoji gives minato the music box in 12/31 on reload, minato listens to the music box every night in january. this boy has insomnia and also chronic illness to me (things that housing death does to you). but i think he finds comfort in the melody and memories he made with ryoji.

in general, i think it's fun to imagine minato taking ryoji to places and show him things he's interested in! i feel that ryoji takes a lot of interest in minato's life, this isn't really a hc because in reload, minato DOES give ryoji a tour of the school (11/9) and possibly port island (11/12). but ITS CUTE OK! (tangentially related fanwork: this series of doodles from vinnigami: 1, 2, and 3)

not a hc but minato's kindness is like the backbone of their relationship and i think we would not have the ryomina we know and love today if minato wasn't such a kind soul. oh minato.... we can learn so much from you... like ryoji did!

anyway! that's all the hcs that i could think of, thank you for the ask! i had a lot of fun answering this, these two mean a lot to me 💛💙

i hope you don't mind the links to the fanart and fanfic as well, the fanwork people have made for ryomina have really made an imprint on me! if you want to see more of them, i definitely recommend looking through my tag for them because oh. i got a lot of them reblogged alright 😂 (<- SOOO NORMAL)

#UMMM hiiii #this was VERY fun to do thank you so much for the ask!! im very. well-adjusted about these two #this ended up turning into some art + fic suggests (they are like citations to my hcs) #but it was really fun! i love ryomina to bits and pieces i cannot provide a concise answer #this post nearly gave me a scare bc somehow the bullet point list doubled itself and wouldn't let me post #tumblr is a very functional website! but the posts intact so im happy!!! yippee! #i still need to finish reload but some of the hcs i wrote were partially backed by what i saw there #people are welcome to send asks btw! cant guarantee i'll answer them in a timely manner but i enjoy doing them #doing this reminded me of my early tumblr days when i'd get so many asks where ppl dropped their ryomina hcs it was cute... #im sure i will continue to recommend fanworks in the future i definitely want to start reading fic again after i finish reload! yahoo! #also this post is like the iceberg of my brain btw you have definitely not seen all of my thoughts im soo. (twirls hair) normal. #lizzy askbox #ryomina #<- why not i put effort into the post #anyway bye im going to go to the library to learn about my favorite new interest called html and css aren't websites cool :)

[llitchilitchi]

setting off for a long journey

#dnf #oblivion au #sketchbook #ert #do I even tag this? should I tag this absolute mess of an au with any of the participants? #this was simply me wanting to draw the view of white gold tower after like a 5h obliv sesh #yes I know that theres only two towers at the side shut up #this isnt even a real location I imagine this would be in jerall mountains but it doesnt make sense #this is like. cheydinhal view at best. probably more south idk I made it up #just needed to have these two kiss in the early morning hours before dream has to leave for a mission #Ive been playing more obliv so there Might be more idk #done with like 10 colouring pencils cause yeah #the blue looks eyestrainy but trust me its worse irl I love that colour #wish I could get the colours more true to life #anyways thank you for reading this rant I am here to talk about this silly au that I am very normal about

[satsuha]

for 1draw! (took 1.5h)

#dragalia lost #satsuhart #lin you #the context for why im drawing so much is i need to stay up to fix my sleep schedule and #drawing is one of the few things i can do without getting sleepy #anyway linyou my queen <3 the only reason i ever got into drgl meta #the early days of covid when i spent hours on eciella making her wep are etched in my brain

[thecrowsart]

top fav matobas (and natori) i've drawn so far i must say

#first one i just think i nailed like baby pre clan head era here though its a time we dont get to see in the manga #older than the flashbacks younger than the present time #second one...need i say anything #(?) #third one was an early drawing but i somehow managed to really get his face as i imagined it down. i have a pretty distinct mental image- #of him so i was happy #fourth that whole drawing just ended up kind of good imo both their faces came out well and the pose and the lined look good i think #i struggle with profiles but i for once managed i think to get matobas kind of bird like face #and like i said i like how natori looks there too #anyway just putting these here because i like looking at them #matoba seiji

[whatthefuckisasweep]

pizza dreams <3

#rvb #red vs blue #dexter grif #grif #grif rvb #my art #i haven't drawn him in SOOOO long #i need to do it again #everytime i draw grif you just see my whole ass artstyle change LMFAO #like he is the measurement of my progress #i love him SO FUCKING MUCH!!!!! #this was stress relief because something shitty fucking happened and i was SUPPOSED to work on my final but i was too stressed so i drew #i feel better... he's so baby #i haven't drawn armor in so long so this was really fun #babyyyy #anyways its like 2 am and i have to get up early asf and then i have a busy day : ( #sobs

[welcometogrouchland]

[ID: a digital drawing of Luz and Hunter from the owl house dressed as Erika and Annalise from Barbie: Princess and the Pauper, respectively. The two are clasping hands, looking at each other happily and singing "yes I am a witch like you!". A blue butterfly flies behind hunter, while a pink one flies behind Luz. The background is light purple. End ID] @toh-described

Had this idea all week and finally sat down and did it while watching Princess and the Pauper lmao. Did u guys know it's on netflix now???? Hello?????

Also, bonus: how'd they'd really react getting to sing a duet

[ID: the same image as before, except Hunter had a tired, grumpy expression and Luz has a mischievous one. End ID]

#the owl house #toh #hunter toh #luz noceda #i. am not tagging princess and the pauper #It's just a doodle but I didn't wanna spend a ton of time on it otherwise I'd end up never finishing it. lmao (spoken with pain) #fun fact this took me. nearly the exact runtime of that film. like i was hitting export as the credits started rolling #anyway this movie slaps so hard I'm so fucking glad it's on netflix #can we get more barbie movies please??? i know there's some modern ones but can we get some classics too?????? #my fav growing up was the one abt Pegasus'. where's that one. i need it #also this isn't an au but just know if it was an au. Belos is Preminger #the second version was actually the original and my thought process behind it is ''hunter would rather die than sing abt his feelings- #-and luz would think it's funny that he'd have to'' #anyway if you haven't watched barbie: the princess and the pauper and can stand bad early 2000s 3D animation go watch it #that's not a request /j #I'd also prefer if ppl didn't tag this as a ship #i didn't put it in the caption cause i thought it'd look clunky and it's not high priority to me like it was with the labyrinth fanart #but it's still a preference I'd like ppl to keep in mind when rbing #if they've even made it this far into the tags lol

[synthshenanigans]

The bastard is back in my head. He wont leave and he's getting blood everywhere >:{

Harmonia & Cowboy Mind designs are by the lovely @socialc1imb :}

(+ a random Mind I made that I don't wanna make a full post for yet, since I might give him more stuff. So he's just stuck here for now lol)

#and by more stuff i mean like a couple extra things #maybe a halo or two idk yet #we'll get there when we get there #anyways i got burnt out & had life events happen™ but after climbin out that pit #i reemerged and remembered how fun it was to draw harmonia #missed that funky lil deranged bastard #anyways² wanted a small doodle page of tge guy #might be more later but depends how I'm feelin when i wake up lol #alright bye gang *explodes* #chonny jash #chonnys charming chaos compendium #cj mind #cj whole #cj clue au #idk why i love this au so much #i need to calm down a lil bit lol #but he's just so fun to draw idk why #sir harmonia whole #if this is incomprehensible it IS quite late for me atm #or early now rather #okay i go to bed for real now #-atlas art-

[toxooz]

i Need to take up embroidery now rIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

#walmart didnt have a starter kit and hobby lobby is closed RRRRUHHUERHRHRRRR #i was always like i love it but its simply somebody elses thing my whole life until like 1 am last night my brain unlocked #the things i could make with practice and patience i need to seeeE CONSARNIT shit would be SOOO COOL #i want to just have fun with it and be jovially shitty at it for a while until i pick up on things #ive forgotten everything ive learned throughout my life when it comes to sewing & that of the like but i feel like itll click after a while #itll definitely be a lil side hobby bc holy FUCK i dont have time to really sit down and invest atm but still #maybe my small new years resolution is get better at embroidery and see my progress bc i lov that shit #plus when im like 60+ yrs old imagine what crazy shit i could do if i start now #ANYWAY ill get to those asks eventually theres some that i simply want to draw for but brother im sniper focused on getting this damn comic #done and DONE so i might have to answer them way later tbh unless its super easy and quick to answer imma have to put off asks cause im #hellbent the comic should be done by early february

[dollypopup]

so many people out here mad af that Colin isn't in love w/ Penelope from jump and completely ignoring that the single sexiest thing a man can do is be friends w/ a woman wholeheartedly and without having any romantic or sexual expectation from her

#polin #colin bridgerton #penelope featherington #bridgerton s3 #sorry i reposted it because it didn't show up in the tags for some reason? #but i feel strongly about it soooooo #anyway colin is fantastic and peeps need to build their bridge and get over it #IT'S FRIENDS TO LOVERS Y'ALL #FRIENDS #TO LOVERS #THE FRIENDS PART IS FIRST!!!!! #all these 'oh my god just admit you're in love w/ her' #pen out here in every conversation basically going 'hey do you think i'm dateable yet?' #whilst Colin is like 'Penelope is so smart and I love talking to her' #and colin being vulnerable as hell on main talking about how he's working on himself and asking about her dreams #y'all out here like 'KISS ALREADY' and i'm going heart eyes over how he always asks her what she means or complimenting her for being funny #bit more of a serious take: Penelope needs to start seeing Colin as a person #he's just a fantasy to her instead of a friend and it's really sad #rewatched all their scenes in S2 and i'm not kidding that most of the early convos are her prodding him for information about his love life #if he's met someone if he likes her if he's ready to date/marry #like girl??? maybe just??? be happy that you have a deep and insightful friendship with a good dude???? who never pressures you? #who stuck his neck ALL the way out for you #just because he values you as a person and your presence in his life #I LOVE HOW HE IS WITH HER #IT'S BEAUTIFUL #anyway colin is the goodest bton boi no one can change my mind

[carnivalcarriondiscarded]

gonna go on another bot purge tonight so here's your friendly Reminder that if you have nothing on your blog (default icon/header/title, no rbs/likes) uhhhh i Will think you're a bot and you Will be blocked <3

#sweeping dust bunnies off the ol' blog yk yk #haven't done a bot check in a month or so there's Bound to be a lot #luckily ive been seeing a lot less default icons lately which is Nice #the refugees seem to be catching on... #absolutely unprompted #on another note since im here and i want to Complain about things that are my own damn fault #i need to wake up early and drive tomorrow which i Expected #but i Forgot how early. and ive trapped myself in a position where thats the time i need to leave. #couldve left tonight smh... #now i have to take into account my own sluggishness when waking early + getting ready + morning traffic #screams cries sobs etc. oh well. i hope my fav boba place is open by the time i skedaddle #yesterday i was like: oh leaving tomorrow? on such short notice (learned a whole day prior)? surely i cant. its too soon. im unprepared #but now im in waiting mode and dreading the Earliness #woe is me. except not. i did this to myself 💅 #sigh. anyway yeah make sure your blog looks like a person runs it

[givemewallywestorgivemedeath]

okay weird q incoming but what ways do you think speedsters can get sick? Like to my understanding, they can’t really come down with normal virus’ like the flu, right? But they could get things like chronic migraines?

NANOBOTS!!! This is one of the best pieces of canon lore ever. I did a whole post on it but TLDR: normal human metabolisms have so much shit going on that they don't even notice nanobots in their body BUT speedsters have hyper accelerated metabolisms that are the equivalent of the straight A's overachiever in school on meth. So speedster metabolisms do notice nanobots and they attack full force, triggering all of the body's defenses and responses.

But the nanobots are metal so it obviously doesn't do anything. It just leaves the speedster lethargic, feverish, vomiting, dizzy, with a headache, sore muscles and a runny nose, ect. It's basically an allergic reaction.

Now, poisoning them can work depending on what the poison is/what the dosage is. You would need a 100% fatal poison and you would need a fairly high dose. Because speedsters heal fast and they have a hyper accelerated metabolism, so any poison that is based on toxicity (alcohol poisoning for example) would be out of their system faster than it could even take effect.

But poisons that can't be cleared out/processed by the body (take cyanide for example, it binds with the chemical receptors in your body making it physically impossible to use oxygen) wouldn't really be affected by their metabolism at all. So while the speedsters could heal the damaged tissues from these poisons fairly quickly (making it seem as though they were only slightly affected) they would ultimately need time to do so, time they would not have if it kills them first. This isn't technically what you are asking because there would be no substance that 'makes them sick', there would only be 'fine', 'not fine for like a minute and then fine again' and 'dead'. (... unless they were hooked up to a steady supply of the toxin)

Likewise, (this is getting more into theoretical territory, less canon) there might be some illnesses that would affect them? Not for long but if you got something super fucking fatal like Rabies, it might make them display mild cold symptoms for a day or something.

I don't know though. They have really fucking good immune systems. And even super fatal diseases can be fought. Take my example of Rabies, while it is commonly thought to be 100% fatal once symptoms show up there actually have been cases of people surviving it. Rabies is a very stealthy and fast disease, so the main problem with treating it is that your body's immune system isn't fast enough to stop it. People have survived by being placed in medically induced comas (slowing their bodily functions and thus the disease) for long enough that the medication can eradicate it. So for a speedster? That's gone in a minute tops. You would need an insane disease that I'm not sure even exists.

There's also like... pregnancy and menstruation. Growing pains, muscle pain from running is a BIG ONE, being dehydrated/starvation, blood loss, ect. Lots of ways to fuck with a speedster in a way they can't immediately fix.

There are also speedster specific ailments. It's basically 50/50 if a natural born speedster gets a weird highly fatal aging disease. Sometimes speedsters can be born without a kinetic energy shield which makes using their powers at all incredibly fatal to them. All speedsters will have connectivity issues at some point that can be fatal. Sometimes Time Gets Bad™ (shout out to when Barry kept chronically stealing time from people/things every time he used his powers). Sometimes they have too much energy and can't maintain human form (shout out to when Wally didn't know what the speedforce was and was accidentally cosplaying Ghost Rider). Velocity 9 is a highly addictive drug that works on speedsters and makes them display typical addiction behavior (and withdrawal). V9 can also cause a speedster to 'overdose' (burst into flames/lightning/energy). They all have the constant urge to yeet themselves into the speedforce. Ect.

#here's the thing: they are made of speedforce but its not a skin deep thing. you feel me? like their CELLS are made of speedforce #so all shit still affects them #i keep saying that they don't need oxygen or food to survive and thats true but its only if they're actively compensating with speedforce #cause they can get energy from the speedforce or they can get energy from oxygen and food or both. they can't do neither #and they don't really *know* or understand that theyd be fine with JUST speedforce energy. they still think they need oxygen and food #so if they were suffocating or something they might instinctively crank up the speedforce to compensate but they're also very stupid #so they might just die. idk it really depends on who it is how much they know and how much SF they're drawing on #cause like... energy beings need energy yo #i hope this makes sense #the muscle pain one is interesting cause Wallys early runs are really big on the whole hitting the wall thing #he would hit a wall that he physically couldn't break through and it caused him a lot of pain. #some of that was not being hooked up properly cause Wally wasn't hooked up properly until he was an ADULT #because he is FUCKING INSANE and he just went 'huh i guess this is my limit and i will stay below it' liKE AN INSANE PERSON #anyway some of it was SF issues and some of it was mental but he actually got really really hurt anytime he got close to the wall #REALLY bad muscle pain. and like... it was potentially extremely fatal. 'breaking down your body into little bits' fatal #he doesn't get that anymore because hes properly hooked up now but jfc that man treated 'entering the death zone' like it was #the high score to beat at his local arcade. he took it as a fucking challenge. absolutely insane dude right there