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the-believer · 2 years
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can’t believe this is an unpopular opinion, but Raya and the Last Dragon (2021) was amazing. A lot of people liked the movie and the history/heritage behind it but not the message of the movie. and while i 100% adore and appreciate the heritage, the message was what made me love the movie.
people think that the message is wrong to say we should trust those who are untrustworthy or who have given us reasons not to trust them, that Namaari and Fang didn’t deserve forgiveness or trust in the movie.
but that’s exactly the point- it’s not about deserve. Raya and the Last Dragon is 100% a reflection not only of Southeast Asian culture, but of our world today. especially in regard to politics, we don’t trust each other, we don’t work together, and we let fear divide us. In the movie, Raya realizes that while Nemaari may not be the most trustworthy person, someone has to take the first step in working together to fix the world. and that’s so important.
today, it’s so much easier for us to say that we shouldn’t have to take responsibility for a problem just because we didn’t start it. it’s easy to point fingers instead of join hands. but that’s not the way to improve things. sometimes you have to trust and come together not because the other person deserves it, but because the world does.
and that’s exactly the message Raya and the Last Dragon conveys- not necessarily trusting blindly, but trusting others because WE ourselves are trustworthy, and it’s the only way to truly grow.
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narwhalwrath · 3 years
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Raya and theLast Dragon (Spoilers)
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What I liked best about Raya and the Last Dragon was that the characters actually developed. Raya was flawed in the sense that she was driven to distrust because of Nemaari and even seemed to want to kill her after Nemaari shot Sisu. Raya was not some piece in this larger destiny, she wasn't chosen like Moana, and she didn't need rescuing like Jasmine, Aurora, Snow White or Cinderella. But most importantly she recognized that she was wrong and bettered herself by trusting Nemaari to do what was right, and because of it they saved the world and restored the unity of Kumandra.
Nemaari too, she's not just evil for the sake of evil, but she has been fed this narrative by her mother, Virana, and when she realizes that her mother was wrong she begins to change, which opens the door for her to trust Raya and is cemented by Raya's sacrifice in the end. Just fantastic.
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rollingpenguin · 3 years
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I need Nemaari x Raya fanarts thank you very much
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alethiometry · 3 years
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ok raya and the last dragon is extremely gay
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sapphicmumrik · 3 years
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while I enjoyed the aesthetics and music (and Sisu herself), Raya and the Last Dragon fell a bit flat I felt
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my-quirk-is-fred · 2 years
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I’m not a fan of Raya and the last dragon, but I decided to make fanart and an oc for the movie anyways.
The oc doesn’t have a name yet (I want an authentic southeast Asian name that fits the character) but he does have a back story. For now, I will give him the temporary name of Red.
Back when the spooky purple clouds started turning the dragons into stone, Red was one of the few that had tried to escape the purple mass but was the only one that actually got out alive.
For centuries, he hid and watched as the human tribes grew more and more divided, growing more and more depressed and disgusted with the humans, causing his once beautiful blue scales to desaturate into an ugly grey.
His powers over the years would shift as well. He use to produce fresh, cold water before it began to boil hot, then turn to hot steam… and slowly became fire.
Once Sisu returned, he wasn’t thrilled by the dismissal and ignorance of her when she was warned by the human that reawakened her.
Throughout the movie, he would slowly learn to have faith in humans again while indirectly teaching Sisu that the world will never be the same again and humans will have to fix the world without dragons while Raya would help Sisu realize that trust should only be given to those who deserve it and those who prove that they take responsibility for their actions…
(This is mostly me trying to fix the script of the movie and the characters while enjoying a stupid oc I made up.)
Raya and the last dragon had a lot of missed potential and concepts that could have been tackled. The movie could have made Sisu develop in character, Nemaari could have grown a backbone and APOLOGIZED to Raya (and the other tribes) for everything she caused.
It’s too late now though. All I can do is dream…
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flightfoot · 3 years
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Just saw Raya and the Last Dragon. I really liked it! Sisu was a lot of fun, and it was interesting to see Raya’s reaction when Sisu went from this concept of a goddess, to an actual person she could talk to. Nice reminder that people you put on pedestals are still ultimately people.
Namaari was an interesting character, and I’m glad we had a few asides with her. I wouldn’t have minded digging into her emotions and thoughts even more. Raya was a good, heroic protagonist, but Namaari was a conflicted, guilt-ridden antagonist, which I thought made her more interesting.
That being said, I agree with a lot of the criticism about how the movie handles its moral. It really drills in the “You need to give trust if things are going to get better, and distrust only makes things worse” message, but too often that trust was betrayed. I really didn’t like how Nemaari blamed Raya for having a part in Sisu’s death especially. Raya’s actions were perfectly reasonable - trying to disarm Nemaari when she saw her finger pulling back on the trigger - so I’d blame that entirely on Nemaari for pointing a crossbow at Sisu in the first place.
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lesly-oh · 3 years
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Did you see Tran ships Nemaari and Raya?
Yes, I saw it,. And she is totally right 👏
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wardofwinters · 3 years
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Raya and the Last Dragon was clearly attempting to get across a message of trust and how you shouldn't think the worst of everyone. But honestly, it failed at that message.
You can figure out their message from their failure but it was far too heavy handed and wasn't actually supported by the movie scenes.
We see at the very opening that Raya *does* try to trust. She give Nemaari her trust and is promptly kicked in the back. Following that her father and probably all of her people got turned to stone because the gem broke when the nation's began fighting over it.
And then she spends 6 years traveling in a world that is, put nicely, a wreck. Half the people are stone, no one can trust any outsiders, and many are wary of trusting even those they know.
Then Sisu comes in and preaches about trust and how showing trust will bring trust back! Giving a gift shows you can be trusted, you need to trust others or the world will never be fixed. Except...
Every time Sisu demonstrates this it fails. Sisu nearly dies, they get captured, Nemaari betrays them.
In contrast while at times Raya's distrust is a bit much it doesn't get them in the any real trouble until the very end when faced with Nemaari. And honestly, with Nemaari that distrust is completely earned.
Nemaari betrayed her in the worst way and then there she stood holding a crossbow to Sisu. Idk if you remember but Raya's dad was shot with a crossbow and that's why Raya had to leave him behind (well more he forced her to because he knew he'd hold her back but).
Even from the viewers perspective it looks like Nemaari is about to shoot Sisu. Raya panicking is earned there because Sisu has already proven that she has zero understanding of when someone should be trusted. Every prior instance taught Sisu nothing and she kept insisting that you have to trust and take the first step even tho the other does nothing to reach out themselves.
This insistence on trusting people no matter what is foolish! And that is the message Sisu insists on, she insists on trusting everyone. She even says the world is broken because Raya and the others don't trust.
But that's the exact opposite of what happened. It was Raya's trust that resulted in the world being broken.
Trust should be earned, not given blindly. Raya was too distrustful, but teaching her to trust should've gone alongside teaching Sisu to not trust blindly.
They had an opportunity for a great lesson, honestly just having it not be Nemaari who betrayed them but her mom or guards showing up having followed her would've fixed a lot of my problems.
The end message with trust was poorly executed and shoved in our faces while nothing in the movie actually supported their message.
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wuekka · 3 years
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List of things I liked about Raya and the last dragon
Designs, from weapons to lands, to characters, even Sisu's design I accepted and liked dragons were basically (not counting minor details of the horn) the same, like Sisu and her older brother had the same eyelashes.
Raya's "are you going to poison them?" Question to her dad at the start almost made me spit take.
Nemaari's people having food shortage so they don't even have rice (it's the ultimate sign of poverty/food shortage in asian stories especially if I remember right?) so of course they need the dragon gem and protection it brings, so they could farm outside their water-walled city.
Raya crying when trying to bring Sisu back at the beginning, it shows really well she's desperate and it's her last chance.
Sisu's anxiety over the chief trying to hurt her. (Too bad movie didn't do anything with that and just rebooted her character back to beginning when they got to the spine.)
Nemaari crying from just seeing Sisu, and then her growling at her. Imagine seeing a being you consider holy being angry over something you're doing!
Fang people were surprisingly vulcan, and I liked that.
You can pinpoint exactly the moment where Nemaari's realizes her mother isn't right, and she changes her perspective.
Tong being only one to check baby's clothes for name tag, because he's a father!
Water drying as Sisu leaves mortal realm, I just liked that, it feels very much like Sisu is water, like if you kill Helios, you kill the sun.
Then things I didn't like, but i keep them in small things since I made already a rant about bigger things:
Nemaari's mother could have turned into the big bad apart from the druun, such a wasted opportunity!
Druun's are driven out, for now...They weren't destroyed, since the exact same thing happened 500 years ago!
Tong should have adopted the baby at the end of the movie.
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Raya and Nemaari meeting but it is PQAU Chloe and Alix
Chloe: Stealing gold now, are we? Why?
Alix: What can I say? Im a pirate
Chloe: Hmph, gotta admit Alix, a few months ago I thought you died in the fire, but then someone keeped a wanted person with them
Alix: Oh, is that why you are chasing me? And here I thought it is because you missed me
Marinette beside Juleka: Is this normal? Like the flirty tension I am feeling right now between them
Juleka: Yeah it their thing, lets not bother them
N I C E
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into-control · 3 years
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have you watched raya and the last dragon ? it’s a great movie (and nemaari is a dyke no one can convince me otherwise)
i haven’t i have to hack into my friend’s disney plus for that
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nerdyaspandspacy · 3 years
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Ok so in an earlier post I mentioned Raya and the Last Dragon. So my little sister was watching it again earlier and I found that while I love the movie as a whole, I kinda wish we had some of the earlier versions of Nemaari. Like seriously, if you haven't seen it, holy cow. With the feeling of the tension between Raya and Namaari from the movie we have now mixed with that version of Namaari would be enemies to lovers on a whole new scale.
I mean who doesn't like a good enemies to lovers where there is just growth and bonding?
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my-quirk-is-fred · 2 years
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Warning: ranting once again about Raya and the last dragon. This isn’t to shit on Ratld fans or Nemaari x Raya shippers, but this is to point out the clear as day toxic message about trust. I will also be a little hostile in this so if my rant makes you uncomfortable, go right ahead and find another lighthearted Raya post.
I remember posting on tumblr about how the message of trust in Raya and the last dragon was toxic as fuck and most of the tumblr users said that “you have to be the bigger person and forgive.” And “Raya was in the wrong too.”
Did y’all not watch the movie?
Were we watching two different movies???? Didn’t nemaari betray Raya’s trust over and over again throughout the movie and even acted shitty to Raya for taking a dragon scroll when NAMAARI CAUSED SHIT TO HIT THE FAN???
Nemaari shouldn’t have held the crew at bow point to begin with. They actually offered her a bit of trust and she betrayed them, even pointed the bow at Sisu, you know, HER FAVORITE CREATURE WHICH IS THE LAST DRAGON????
She was clenching that trigger too 🧍
You can enjoy a movie, you can enjoy the characters but DO NOT pretend that the message the movie is trying to hammer isn’t toxic.
The reason why the world was thrown into chaos wasn’t the lack of trust, it was putting WAY TOO MUCH TRUST in a girl Raya barely met as a kid.
The message should have been that you can put SOME trust into people once you get to KNOW THEM. Trust should not be thrown around willy nilly. That’s a sure way to get r*ped, murdered, betrayed, etc.
It was stupid of Disney to fuck up that message that badly, and while I enjoyed the animation and designs, I especially loved Raya herself, I cannot NOT bat an eye at this stupid message.
And DO NOT pull that stupid fucking philosophy about how “forgiving and trusting people makes you the bigger person”. Raya was always the bigger person than Nemaari. I was always the bigger person than my Assaulter because I WASN’T THE ONE WHO PUT MY HANDS ON PEOPLE.
You shouldn’t forgive and trust people who hurt you so badly because of some moral shit Americans try to condition you with.
I’m tired of people pressuring victims into forgiveness to the person that hurt them.
And you might say “oh nobody is pressuring them… but it would make them the bigger person teehee~”
That’s where you are wrong.
Media likes to display this indirect message, showing victims or families of victims to be oh so forgiving to people who didn’t do anything to earn the privilege of trust. And don’t get me started on the people that tell me that I’ll feel better if I forgive the bastards that did me wrong. I don’t feel better, I feel angrier, NOT HEARD. IGNORED.
Even if Nemaari didn’t outright murder Raya’s father or do anything that would cross the lines beyond redemption, she didn’t do anything to at least redeem herself throughout the movie. Disney could have made her shown remorse for what she did but there was barely any remorse or apology TOWARDS RAYA, THE PERSON SHE HURT THE MOST.
Sorry, I went on a bit of a rant there.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=imwTZUrf1Qw
This actually goes into much greater depth than I can.
Watch Encanto, folks.
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my-quirk-is-fred · 2 years
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I’m so glad that I’m not the only one who didn’t like the movie Raya And The Last Dragon. The movie in my opinion was stupid. And the message about trust was dumber than the 2016 Ben 10. I have so much to say about this movie that pissed me off so much. Anyways, I hope that your having a great day and that your taking care of yourself.❤️
Raya was very much missed potential. The message would have been AMAZING if handled correctly.
Sisu could have had character development instead of being the “always right” character. Namaari could have shown WAY more remorse throughout the movie and apologized at the end.
Something that could have been done was have Nemaari apologize and have Raya not forgive and trust Nemaari 100% but give her the chance to actually work to redeem herself, because realistically that is how it should be.
Nemaari could still turn good in the end but it had to be deserved and at least show that she’s seen how wrong she was.
Another thing that could have changed was instead of Raya and the crew giving their gem pieces to Nemaari in the final scene, Nemaari would be the one to give her piece to Raya.
That would tell us that after Nemaari took everything from Raya and tried to take the pieces she wanted to fix herself, she finally gives back to Raya.
That’s just how I would have fixed those scenes, sorry I wrote something so long.
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PQ AU
Chloe and Alix have Nemaari and Raya vibes
My god
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