#neon genesis evangelion spoilers
The exact dynamic of Neon Genesis Evangelion, except it’s just a regular group project. Folks pointing out that if Shinji doesn’t get over his crisis of confidence and submit his part of the project, Rei will have to do it instead. Smash cut to Rei just sitting there so strung out on stress and caffeine that she’s actively dissociating.
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we’ll meet again.
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you’ve got to be kidding me.
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last year i took a class on anime offered by the languages department at my college, it was super interesting and a lot of fun! here’s my final presentation on neon genesis evangelion - specifically how the apocalyptic mode in nge reflects japanese culture/society. if you like my slides, feel free to check out my anime class google drive folder where i posted all the class readings and my essays & presentations!
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major spoilers for 3.0+1.0 in this post!
i didn’t... REALLY expect kawoshin to happen, i didn’t think they’d be that brave about it. same with the mari and asuka homoerotic moments, that felt a lot like fanservice, especially during the scenes where it played out. but the fact that we got literally an entire movie dedicated to kaworu and shinji’s relationship, then its sequel literally confirming the time looping kaworu theory, only for it to be written off as kaworu chasing his own happiness and shinji seeing kaworu as a father figure... and for shinji to wind up with none of the characters (asuka, kaworu, or even rei) that he’s formed a major emotional connection with across the four films and the entire anime series, but the girl he’s spoken to maybe two or three times in some self-insert fantasy of anno and his wife... idk, i think i can be a little bit irritated about that being the ending to this over-a-decade long saga
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Yes, I will kiss thy mouth, Iokanaan. I said it; did I not say it? I said it.
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something that really gets to me in neon genesis evangelion (and tbh anno probably meant it this way) is how,,, shinji is a child, a 14 year old boy, and yet none of the adults in the show seem to think much about putting the weight of saving the world on his shoulders. nobody comforts him, nobody gives him the time or space to comprehend what he’s feeling. and i know that’s because all the adults are deeply fucked up in their own ways, but it just really bothers me?
shinji is berated for being traumatised, being depressed, being horrified by the things he has to do and the things he’s seen. but instead of reaching out to him with compassion, he’s treated like a burden -- something he fears. that’s why he takes to kaworu so quickly; kaworu offers him the gentle compassion and recognition he deserves. he literally said “this is the first time anyone’s ever said that to me” (depending on which translation you prefer). shinji just wants to be loved, but he’s punished for it.
yes, to some degree the adults (especially misato) are right about how he can’t keep being passive just because he’s afraid of rejection. but nobody actually acknowledges that fear, nobody explains why he shouldn’t be afraid. they just demand that he get over it, that he gets in the damn robot. nobody stops to think about the effect this has on his wellbeing.
the adults all decide that his wellbeing is a necessary sacrifice, and do nothing to try to soften the blow.
it’s similar with asuka, too; when she’s obviously having a breakdown, misato seems irritated. nobody reaches out to her, no authority figure gives her the recognition she so desperately desires. she’s ignored; and in her darkest moments, she’s alone. i deplore the scene of her alone in the eva during end of evangelion because she’s in so much pain, so afraid, but she’s alone -- alone, curled up in the fetal position. and yet, nobody helps her. nobody can.
in many ways, nge seems to be a show about self-centredness, and i think it’s a fascinating look at how our own pain can blind us to the suffering of others. i’m still fuzzy on what it’s trying to say about that exactly, but the ending of the original series seems to be speaking the importance of realising your own worth yourself, regardless of what others think? which, to me, reads a bit like it’s talking about the value of isolation -- and that’s the difference i suppose with shinji rejecting instrumentality and becoming his own person again.
being yourself, even if it means being invariably isolated from others and never truly able to transgress the boundary of the self and the other, is better. i don’t necessarily agree, but i do think it’s interesting.
this is very incoherent and i have a lot of Thoughts on this show, i need to watch the rebuild films dsfkljdflkj
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me after seeing the sexual tension between kaworu and shinji:
seriously tho! that shinji blush! the way that kaworu insisted on shinji calling him by his first name!
“you betrayed me!” bro you sound heartbroken </3 so sorry your bae turned into an Angel </3
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Asuka Langley-Soryu, Neon Genesis Evangelion, 2-19-21
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Ah, yes, an Eva-based Spider-man meme, very timely and in vogue
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ohhhh i just realized their shadows form hearts in this scene....
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My thoughts on the 'Netflix dubbed' Neon Genesis Evangelion. (Includes Spoilers)
It's okay, I mean it is my favorite anime series, but it's not as good as the original dub version of the anime. For people who have heard about it and have wanted to start watching it, it's an easily available alternative.
I have a few things that annoyed me though. The way they pronounced magi as "MAY-gI" really bugged me. What really bugged me was how they changed Kaworu's character and removed the homosexual theme from his character. He went from saying "I love you" to "I like you" to Shinji and it downs their climax when Kaworu becomes the seventeenth angel, and Shinji is ordered to kill him.
Other than those changes I still really liked it even with those changes. I'm so happy that my favorite anime is now easily watchable rather then on sites like 'KissAnime' where you have like 4 ads per episode.
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(This is specifically ABOUT 3.0+1.0, NOT 3.0, or NGE)
I have to wonder how eva’s japanese LGBT audience feels like after this movie. After 8 entire fucking years of khara putting out kawoshin merch NON-STOP, insinuating through interviews that kawoshin COULD be good for each other (really, it was only a matter of setting healthy boundaries if the looping was the only thing keeping kaworu attached to Shinji/sacrificing himself to cope with his fate), only for 3.0+1.0 to shoot it down in three minutes tops of exposition and not even allow room for ambiguity. I would believe that kawoshin was only a matter of a tragedic pair that could never be if it wasn’t for the fact that:
* Gendo is compared to Kaworu in the sense that both of them were lonely, played piano (yes, they really went there) and only had Yui/Shinji in the world. The idea is that both of them were dependent on their respective partners to somehow bring them happiness. So what is Gendo rewarded with, in shin eva? After abandoning, neglecting, abusing his own son, being mainly responsible for the state of the world and harming billions of innocents? He’s redeemed through a sob story and gets to be reunited with Yui. In other words, Gendo’s obsessiveness is remunerated with the same person he became dependent on, but Kaworu/Shinji have no choice but to separate indefinitely.
>Lovers committing double suicide believed that they would be united again in heaven, a view supported by feudal teaching in Edo period Japan, which taught that the bond between two lovers is continued into the next world, and by the teaching of Pure Land Buddhism wherein it is believed that through double suicide, one can approach rebirth in the Pure Land.
(this has not been confirmed canon, but god forbid the implications that the Gendo/Yui scene could have)
(Shinji and Kaworu don’t even get to stay as friends in the Neon Genesis, because the message is that Anno (Shinji) bid farewell to all of the eva characters and his relationship with them, for good. That’s why they go their opposite ways in the last train scene)
* Not to mention the wlw baiting with Asuka & Mari (Kaworu/Shinji parallels were even used in the promotional material to suggest that they had a bond akin to theirs), that also added up to nothing bc ig gay ppl only serve as Marketing Tools lol.
* Kaworu might be coupled with Rei in the “Neon Genesis”. Kaworu is a character that throughout the years (in spin-offs, drama CDs, magazines, you name it) has been portrayed as having little romantic/sexual interest in women and thus had been established as a more gay coded/leaning character to the audience/fans. “He could be bi/pan!” do you really think that this was not a decision made out of convenience because they didn’t want to commit to him being exclusively mlm?
Any traces of Shinji’s/Mari’s/Kaworu’s and even Maya’s queerness are as good as gone by the end of the film. Finito. This goes WAY beyond “omg we know your ship didn’t become canon but that doesn’t mean it’s queerbaiting!!” This is straight up 25 years that amounted to NOTHING but picking people’s pockets for profit and selling out the narrative that gay relationships are temporary and adults eventually settle down for the opposite sex (actual belief in the conservative parts of japan). How ppl are blind to this as if it has nothing to do with khara’s potential views on lgbt relationships is beyond me.
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i really was born to meet you.
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“Humans cannot create anything out of nothingness. Humans cannot accomplish anything without holding onto something. After all, humans are not gods.”
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You're watching evangelion?? It's so depressing bu that might be because I watched the show when I was 11 😭 clearly not something I shouldve watched
yeah! i finished the original series yesterday evening and,,, i have some thoughts? but OMG 11 is definitely too young to watch it fkkljds i don’t know how you would’ve processed a lot of what happened HHHH it’s really quite brutal and intense,,,
i think it’s strengths lie in how it explores depression and grief in a very human sense (shinji appears to be quite the controversial character online but i liked him and felt really bad for him throughout the narrative because my god he’s fourteen and they’re putting him through all that.) i really felt shinji’s loneliness, fear of rejection and desperation to be loved, and i
while i think it had a lot of promise and an interesting premise, but i lost me during maybe,,, the last four episodes? for one, i was sort of :/ with how they treated the female characters throughout (esp. rei and asuka who are, what? 14? and how all the women, including ritsuko and misato ended up being defined by their relationships with men,,,) and i still don’t actually understand how it ended? like i understand the philosophy they were getting at, but in terms of the actual events of the narrative? no clue. no idea.
i’ve heard that end of evangelion amends that a bit but i haven’t watched it yet. all in all it made me Feel something, so i guess it won?
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Uh an idea I kinda wanted to noodle around with (get it because Patton is like, a literal angel)
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