#nesta and rhys are for the elriel shippers

[viridianevergarden]

Another rant:

“Rhysand is a Gw*nriel shipper” this, “Rhysand is a El*cien shipper” that- when Rhys only sees Elain and Lucien’s bond as a mere political asset and nothing more. 😐

Sure, he might also want to see them try to resolve the issue by either accepting or rejecting the bond but even then, he’s using the bond as leverage for political gain/assertiveness.

If Az got into the middle of it and evoked negative feelings on Lucien’s part, that could cause issues for everyone (risking alliances with 3rd parties and the Autumn Court itself). Thats it. Thats reason one as to why Az was ordered to stay away.

Reason two being the fact that Azriel, the brother who never opens up about his feelings or thoughts, is being completely misinterpreted. Of course that’s not entirely Rhys’ fault. It’s on Azriel too.

I do think it was short sighted of Rhys to blatantly assume that Azriel -the eldest, most respectful and well mannered of the 3 brothers- would target Elain, a mated female, purely for sexual distraction.

Like where’s the sense Rhysand? Sir, look at Azriel. He can’t possibly think that Az would prey on Elain like that. And even then, I think it was obvious that Elain wanted his touch just as much as he wanted hers. Otherwise she most definitely would’ve said something. And knowing Azriel, he would’ve backed off instantly. He’s not stupid.

(I love Rhys but good lord man)

So uh- no, Rhys is not a cut and cleaved El*cien or Gw*nriel shipper. However Nesta and Feyre sure as hell are Elriel shippers.

“Why not make them mates?” - Feyre (referring to Az)

“What if that is what she needs?” - Feyre (referring to Az again)

I think Nesta nonverbally gave Az her blessing too. He knew that she was aware of how he felt just from the way he looked at Elain (with longing). Then she gave him comfort in response and coined this line immediately after:

“His secret to tell, never hers.” - Nesta pov

So let’s not assume things that aren’t obvious, yeah?

I mean- I think it’s pretty obvious.

#acotar #elriel #pro elriel #pro elain #azriel shadowsinger #elain x azriel #i thought it was obvious

[harmonyindark245]

Character Hate

This is 100% a rant and you don’t have to agree with me, but I really needed to talk about it. I’ve been trying to distance myself from the ACOTAR fandom because of all the toxicity, but I always find myself drawn back, especially with the new books coming out and everything. There is a big difference between hating and disliking. And I understand disliking certain characters because they don’t sit right with you. But one thing that I cannot fathom, is the hatred. Why has everyone decided to hate on characters that aren’t our favorite? I just wanted to point out a few specific characters. 

Rhys 

He’s secretly evil. Really? Did you all not read the first three books? I get the argument that we only see him from Feyre’s pov, but even Feyre disliked him until we found out his truth. Also, can we talk about the absurdity of this claim? The man who was SA’d for FIFTY YEARS, who hasn’t even shared his trauma with his MATE because he doesn’t want to burden her with it. The man gave it all up for his friends, family, and PEOPLE. As an Elriel shipper, I was pissed at Rhys for interrupting them, but I GET IT. He wasn’t sure if he was going to survive, if his mate was going to live. Then there was all the other drama that was happening. Of course, he wouldn’t want one of his close friends going out and dueling with the son of a high lord (and technically heir of a whole court). And at the start of ACOSF, Rhys has every reason to hate Nesta, and I don’t think that needs to be justified. And in HOFAS, as a High Lord, he again had every right to be pissed. I just feel like sometimes you guys forget that as well as being a part of their family, he’s also the High Lord of the Night Court.

Nesta

Yes, I will admit that she’s not a good person. But she worked through it. She went through traumatic experiences, that if anyone of us goes through, we would probably behave the same way as she did. But she worked on herself. She healed. She became a Valkyrie. Nobody could hate Nesta more than she hates herself. And I admit that I could never completely love Nesta because as someone who has been in a position that Nesta had been, I can’t even imagine letting my younger sister go through all of that to keep us alive. It’s a completely personal reason, because I would do anything for my sister, and the way Nesta didn’t do anything when they most needed it will always anger me. But I still admire her for how she tried to bring herself back. Because it’s not easy. Feyre was also the same when she was depressed and she also worked on herself. Even though I don’t like Nesta, she does not deserve the hate she gets. 

Feyre (?!)

If you hate Feyre, you probably should’ve stopped reading around the second book.

Elain

What is it with people hating on Elain? I never understood how you can hate someone who has done NOTHING to ANYONE. The only possible reason people could hate Elain is because she happened to like a boy. It’s not as if she didn’t want to help out with the court. She even apologized to Feyre. She even took part in the war. So what is the problem with her? Just because she doesn’t like Lucien and likes Azriel she deserves to be hated upon? She’s boring? She can’t give birth to Azriel’s kids? Is that really what we’re getting to? Again, I can understand disliking her because she wasn’t helpful during the cabin, or maybe because she was rude to Nesta or whatever, but hating her for such feeble reasons? Let’s not forget that it was Elain who convinced Nesta to let Feyre and the three unknown Fae males inside their house and offer it up as a meeting place.

Gwyn

Just because a group of people want to ship Gwyn with Azriel doesn’t mean that other people have the right to hate her. She has done NOTHING wrong. She hasn’t even shown interest in the man. She has her things she’s going through and she is also trying to heal. There has been not a single action done by her yet that deserves the hatred she gets. As an Elriel shipper, I will admit some people unnecessarily try to bring Gwyn down. 

Fans

We are all the same. We read this amazing series by SJM and love the characters and dynamics and want to talk about it share our thoughts and theories and write pieces of fiction for others to enjoy. It’s vile how many hate comments are passed around in this community. You enjoy what you love, and let others enjoy what they love. You don’t need to prove your likes by bringing other people and characters down. You may not realize it, but some of us relate to our favorite characters, and when you say hurtful things against the character, it truly feels like a personal attack. The main reason why I couldn’t stay in the fandom anymore was because of the claims that Elain didn’t deserve to be with Azriel because she couldn’t have his kids. As someone suffering from PCOS and might not be able to have kids, that statement always breaks my heart. Do people think that just because a woman can’t have kids she doesn’t deserve love? There are so many examples of such small claims causing hurt to the fans, which is not what fandoms are for. 

And with that, if you have something negative to say about my rant, then please keep it to yourself. 

#acotar #rhysand #feyre archeron #nesta archeron #elain archeron #gwyneth berdara #elriel #acomaf #acowar #acofas #acosf

[hyacinthoideshispanica]

Something that really bothers me is when Elriel shippers say Az and Gwyn can't possibly be mates because if they were, the mating bond would have snapped when they first met or would have snapped into place by now since they've known each other for a few years.

I think the fans who say that are forgetting that the mating bond is not always an instantaneous thing. In fact, and someone, please correct me if I'm wrong, but the only examples of an instantaneous mating bond that we have in the books are Rhysand's parents and Elucien.

Yes, Rhys suspected that Feyre was his mate from the very beginning, but the bond itself didn't snap for him until after she had been made.

Yes, Cassian also suspected from the very beginning, but he and Nesta were still sleeping together for months before the bond snapped.

Kallias and Viviane had known each other basically their entire lives, and their bond didn't snap until their wedding night!

The Mother, the cauldron, and whatever other magic is involved in the mating bond seems to make itself known whenever it pleases, regardless of the circumstances, and it doesn't have to be instantaneous to be valid.

#acotar #gwynriel #azriel × gwyn #azriel shadowsinger #gwyneth berdara #feyre archeron #rhysand #cassian #nesta archeron #elain archeron #lucien vanserra #feysand #nessian #elucien

[starsreminisce]

Not surprised shipping e/riel brings out the worst in people. I mean, Elain brings out the worst in Azriel emotionally and that’s not something anybody can deny. The ship and shippers are mirrors of each other. how cute. 

You know what’s funny about that too?

I am really and truly a ship-and-let-ship person. I love watching anime, so if, given the right frame, someone will ship a broom and a lamp together.

And there are chill Elriels, and there are also Elriels who can engage respectfully. But those are few and far between the ones who spam 100 TikTok comments about why their ship is more valid, the ones who comment, reblog, offer unnecessary commentary on spaces that clearly don't belong to them, and those who feel the need to call people who don't believe in their ship delusional and lacking in reading comprehension.

Even more embarrassing when they should have read that I said Mor, not Rhys or Cassian, thought it wasn't a big deal, especially when she answered Feyre's question about whether he gave away TT while finding a piece of jewelry more interesting and then didn't expand anymore, including to reaffirm that it was a big deal to Az.

The "canon" proof they used is two males’ opinions carrying more weight over a female’s, the High Lord’s third in command, with a power that said High Lord utilizes quite often to gauge a potential ally and threat, and then doubling down that the female's opinion doesn't matter based on a line of dialogue from another man.

Maybe it was important, or maybe, just maybe, it still aligns with Az's characterization, his need to protect, and it wouldn't have mattered if Elain were the recipient of Truth-Teller. It's something that he would have done for Nesta, for Feyre or *gasp* maybe even Gwyn, and that's something Mor is well acquainted with Azriel over.

Then again, all of Elriel’s moments, especially in ACOWAR, are negated, overshadowed, and undermined by how he feels about Mor and how much Mor's attention to him affects him.

It's like what you said: we know Elain brings out the worst in Azriel emotionally, as he tells us as much in his perspective from a chapter that's both, according to them, canon to Elriel's but not canon to Azriel's declaration that he was proven right to stay away from Elain. Elain returning yet another thing he offered to her nor Gwynriel's moment when he shows that he's more at peace and doesn't think about his lack of self-worth when he's with her. Funny how Gwyn is "someone who he wouldn't go so far as to call a friend" actually calmed him down?

And it's also not surprising that they would put down Mor's importance and opinion in favor of their own ship while labeling Eluciens and Gwynriels as misogynists.

#antie/riel #antielriel #asks #mor acotar #pro morrigan #morrigan acotar #gwynriel

[acourtofthought]

What are your thoughts on all the contradictions from Elriels?

1. A Gwynriel book would be boring and nothing but Silver Flames 2.0 because we've already had the training/warrior falling in love story, but an Elriel book will be about him training her.

1 ½. Gwynriel is a creepy student/teacher dynamic but Azriel will teach Elain to be a spy.

2. The bonus chapter sets up a forbidden Elriel romance, but it also doesn't count because not everyone has read it.

3. Elain loves and accepts Azriel for who he is even though it's confirmed that she knows nothing about him torturing people.

4. According to several Elriels, Elucien and Gwynriel shippers are the minority in the fandom and Elriels are the majority but they also say that if Elucien and Gwynriel become canon, it will only be because sjm folded to pressure from fans. Why would an author bow to the whims of only a small portion of their fanbase?

I think an Archeron becoming a warrior while being mated to a Bat Boy is way more Feysand 2.0 than Gwynriel would be. First off, they all look very similar. Three golden brown haired females who are related with three dark haired winged fae who are "related" is giving off similar fanart. Second Gwyn is already on the path to becoming a warrior. Her story with Az would not involve her becoming a warrior at the same time they're falling in love, she's already begun the process of becoming a warrior without him (and her initial training was given by Cassian). Elain returning TT and not looking back but suddenly training from scratch with Az to become a warrior / spy in the next book while falling in love is Feysand 2.0. Besides, Az already has prior commitments to training the Valkyrie. Whether some like it or not, Gwyn will be a regular presence in his book and it would be a little odd to have her saying things like, "See you tomorrow Shadowsinger" while Elain stands there......doing what, I'm not sure. Because she is not going to be a Valkyrie, that I can almost guarantee. And the teacher / student dynamic is a pretty consistent thing in SJMs books, Rowan / Aelin. Feyre / Rhysand. Nesta / Cassian. I can't believe that's even an argument. You are right! Az confirms Elain has no idea the things he's done and Elain has never been on page for any of the moments that reveal his true darkness and rage. She wasn't there when he tortured the soldiers (Feyre was and even she was bothered). Elain wasn't there when Az said "good riddance" if Graysen ended up dead. Elain wasn't there when he couldn't admit to Rhys that he was over Mor. Elain wasn't there when he demanded that the Cauldron must be wrong even though we've got no confirmation that Elain wants Az as a mate. Elain wasn't there when Az said she shouldn't be exposed to the Darkness of the Trove but was cool if Nesta was. Honestly, I think Elain would be extremely turned off if she'd witnessed even half of those things. From the many polls I've seen, E/riels don't even make up 35% of the fandom so I'm unsure why they think Gwynriels / Eluciens combined are the minority. Now, the fandom is only a small percentage of all those who actually read this series so we don't know what the actual numbers are but based on how E/riels don't seem to make up half of the most dedicated fans of her work, I'm not sure where they're getting off claiming they are the majority. As far as fan service, I don't think you can claim an Elucien endgame is SJM catering to fans when she was the one who decided to mate them in the first place. When she is the one who had Lucien think of Elain as the most beautiful female he'd ever seen. When she is the one who spoke of them on vacation together. When she is the one who changed Lucien's father to Helion and had Elain say she needs Sunshine. When she is the one who had Lucien claim he was a mated male and has forgone all other female companionship, remaining loyal to Elain and only Elain for two years.

[nikethestatue]

It does feel like shippers are the only ones left in the fandom who are actually looking forward to what SJM does next. The rest of the fandom behaves as if they are hate reading this series and at this point I think they very much are. The negativity isn't just around Elain, people seem to hate Feyre with a passion too now, which was genuinely shocking to me. I thought she was a fairly loved character so was Feysand as a ship but the loudest voices in the fandom seem to be of people that don't like them? Everyone is a hater of everyone now. I don't get it. I guess it's because the fandom discourse centered around nesta for so long and her fandom seems to be very hateful towards anyone who isn't her. Most of the elain hate I see comes from the pro-nesta side. She gets called a bitch, selfish, manipulative and an "ungrateful" sister by her stans which is crazyyy to me I'd thought feyre stans would hate her because of the time in cabin but... WHAT DID SHE DO TO NESTA???? WHAT? And where are the og feysand stans? I think they liked Elain or Elriel or at least weren't as hateful towards her. They seem to have dipped after acowar dropped which is valid lol they got everything why stay now? It is sad tho that SJM's og fans just left and now all she has is a fickle and unpredictable TikTok crowd and people who are just hate reading her books.

Yah...every character is hated now.

Back when I joined, no one would be hating on Cassian and Azriel, they were pretty much safe bets. Same with Feyre. Rhys was always too contentious to be loved by everyone, but now, every single person is hated. Poor Elain's been hated since the very beginning.

I think certain segments and certain ships take all this WAY too seriously. Like way way too seriously, taking it to places where these books aren't supposed to go. Stupid stuff like 'Rhys runs an apartheid state' using fancy words like 'intersectionality' and creating more drama between Rhys and Nesta than SJM ever did. Just because Nesta does not like Rhys, doesn't mean he is the devil, and vice versa, because he doesn't like her, doesn't mean she is plotting to murder him and take over.

I have issues with SJM's writing and her lack of consistency and plot holes, but I still love 99% of the characters. Even when they behave badly. It's okay, we should be able to handle imperfect characters who do imperfect things.

I've disliked the same 2 characters since the very beginning. Nothing's changed. And no one's been really added to the list, because i personally like the clashes, the personalities, the dramatics. That's why I read. Everyone acting properly and with dignified resolve is really not what I am super interested in.

[offtorivendell]

what would you think the IC reaction would be to Elriel?

Hi anon, thanks for stopping by! This is a good one.

In a time of no intercourt or international political tension, then I fully believe that they would all be happy for Elain and Azriel's happiness together.

If you're asking my opinion on who would support Elriel pursuing a romance right now?

Support them now - Mor, Nesta

Torn - Cassian, Feyre

Against until later - Rhys, Amren

Mor is one I can't see as being in any way supportive of Elain or her mating bond being used as a political pawn. I get the feeling that she's one of the more romantic characters, but especially given her own history (and with the Autumn Court, to boot). She has almost certainly noticed something going on between Elain and Azriel (really, I think it's just Cassian who hasn't at this point), and I think that because of her romantic past - losing her mortal queen, first to the Wall, and then to old age - she wouldn't want them to wait, because really, nothing is guaranteed in this life. I think she would prioritise Azriel (and Elain, but she's been friends with Az for 500 years) feeling loved over the political risk.

Nesta I think will also see both sides quite clearly, but given what she said about just wanting to be husband and wife with Cassian (ugh I hated how that whole bit was handled, sorry, there wasn't any genuine resolution and Cassian owes her a massive apology, imo), she will bring a very human opinion to the table and see where Elain is coming from. For all the sisters are fae now, they are not fae at heart, and mating bonds don't mean to them what they do to those who are raised with that culture.

Cassian obviously loves his brother, but he has just gone through his own journey with Nesta and their bond, which he almost appeared to be waiting for (possibly unpopular opinion, but imo Nessian's bond made their romance less believable, and I ship them less now than I did in ACOWAR). But I digress... essentially, I think Cass is both a bit too "pro bond" right now to think straight - though I don't think for a minute he'd force Elain to give Lucien a chance, his mind is a bit muddied by his own pains when Nesta was functionally ignoring and rejecting him until very recently - and also aware of the risk to his Illyrian legion if Beron or Lucien decided to make a play for Elain (a powerful Cauldron Made Seer who would be viewed as an asset to any ruler).

Feyre is the original Elriel shipper, and she seemed to pick up on their potential back in ACOMAF, but I think that, as a High Lady, her loyalties are torn between her sister's happiness and the safety of her people. She and Rhys had discussed the very real possibility of Elain being used as a political pawn in ACOWAR, so I wouldn't be surprised if this becomes a more active choice on her part in Elain's book. It's not pretty, but it's understandable.

Rhys loves his brother, but like Feyre, he's also responsible for the people of the Night Court. It's absolutely hypocritical of him to say he would have gone to war to keep Feyre from Spring without mentioning their mating bond trump card and not offer Elriel the same protection (because HE is the one who has twice now brought up Blood Duels and Beron/the Autumn Court, who could claim Elain by their antiquated customs), but the chances of war are far greater now than at the start of ACOMAF (a death god has entered the chat).

Amren is the wild card for me. She has picked up on something between Elriel, imo, but she is also the most likely to put logic and sensibility over emotions (we all saw her reaction to the news of Feysand's joint death pact in ACOSF). Like Rhys, I don't think she thinks Elain has to give Lucien a chance, but I do think she acknowledges that it would be much easier on their Court, and the dynamics between Night and whomever Lucien is tied to, if at minimum Elriel waited until after everything had settled to make their move; even better if Elain wanted to give Lucien a chance (though Amren being Amren, I don't think she'd be against Elain faking it, either).

Anyway, no hate to any of the characters mentioned - I don't like to do anti type posts, so this was just me word vomiting my answer about characters who may have complex thoughts on the results of Elain and Azriel pursuing a romance in their current political climate - so please stay respectful in the comments section.

Happy holidays! ❤️🎄❄️

#otr ask #otr anon #anon ask #elriel #pro elriel #the inner circle #fandom word vomit

[shitwillnotbegiven]

How would Az ending up with Gwyn determine SJM’s integrity as a writer though? She has teased at couples and they haven’t happened before, not just in ACOTAR but CC and ToG too. Like I said I’m not a shipper of either, but I can’t help but feel that’s a bit unfair. SJM is the one who created them, the author and if she decides a different woman over the other despite one being more beloved because of her longevity in the series and meaning to the story as a Archeron sister. She could change her mind like she did Feyre x Tampon, or like Nesta x Lucien or Mor x Az (who gave goo goo eyes for most of the series even if they weren’t going to be endgame) Aelin x Multiple guys it didn’t work out with or even Bryce x Connor x Reid. She’s done it before in her works so as a non shipper it just seems kinda wrong to say she’d be a bad author for changing her mind about Elriel specifically. But we’ll all see soon enough, If that’s how you’d feel that’s how you’d feel I understand just not liking something.

You shouldn't really come up to my ask box with your supposed "neutral" takes because i don't really believe in it.

Whether you acknowledge it or not, the couple that Sjm build-up for several books, even when they're both interested in someone else, was Elriel.

Changing the MC of the next book to put a secondary character that is not related to the overarching plot of this trilogy is bad writing. Sjm would have to pretty much retcon all the foreshadowing and build-up she made, not only about Elain's arc and Elriel but also about Vassien as well as the overarching plot of this trilogy, to make a book about Gw*nriel work out.

Some people really like to say Sjm changes LI all the time but this isn't the case if you look carefully. Sjm already knew that Feyre would end up with Rhys, the same can be said about Rowan even if he was introduced a little later in the books (and Sjm knew there would be around 8 books so Rowan coming in later doesn't really matter). Nesta and Luc*en wasn't really put in the books.

At the end of the day, it's all about logic. The next book is Elain's and her LI is either Luc*en or Azriel. Since Elain likes Azriel and Azriel likes her, they'll be the next couple. Sjm can do a lot of things in the next book but changing the main povs and the endgame couple will not be one of them unless she wants to please a part of the fandom. Which she already said she doesn't do btw.

Some people really expect Sjm to change her plans but until now she didn't give any clues that she changed her mind.

So if you want me to tell you that Sjm changing her plans to please one part of the fandom isn't bad writing, that's not going to happen. It would be bad writing and show that she doesn't have a backbone but again i don't think she's going to do that because she writes what she wants to write. She likes to see what she planted in her previous books pay off, she isn't going to destroy her own work to please fans.

#elriel #anon ask

[stargirlfeyre]

It’s funny when I see people saying they can’t wait for Azriel’s book and how it’s next, like no sweetheart it’s ELAIN’S book next, he will just be a main character in it like how Cassian was in Nesta’s book. The Bat Boys aren’t getting their own books, the sisters are. I don’t really care for Elain but it really pisses me off when people put azriel over her or how they say they want Elriel to happen because they want Azriel to be happy. Like what about Elain? What if she’s happy with someone that isn’t Azriel or Lucien? What if she says fuck it and goes for a complete side character?

I honestly don’t care who Elain ends up with as long as she heals, recognizes her mistakes and SHE is happy, just stop putting Azriel or Lucien above her and acting like it’s gonna be one of their books. Azriel isn’t gonna be getting special treatment simply because he’s your favorite bat boy.

They heard her say we were going to read about Azriel’s journey and lost their mind. I don’t even know why years later this is still a heated discussion. Of course Elain’s book is next. You don’t have to create 101 theories to support that. All it takes is common sense😭.

If Sjm didn’t give Cassian a book centered around him or Rhys (who is her favorite character) a book centered around him then why would she give Azriel one? And before Elain for that matter? And I have noticed that shippers do tend to put the men above Elain. Tthey also paint Azriel out to be this y/n character.

[bookofmirth]

I asked another person but wanted your opinion too. Is Elain being "quite dreamer" And IC court of dreamers an elriel confirmation cuz I see people on this site going on and on about it

Hiya!

If anyone is saying anything about future books and ships was “confirmed”, they are full of shit. Point blank. Idc who the shipper is or what ship they prefer. No one got what they wanted in terms of ships today 🤣 The only things she said about future books are not at all ship related - she said Nesta and Rhys will still have conflict, and something about fallout from Nesta healing Feyre? She evaded anything related to ships like it was the plague.

But once again, people are apparently reducing Elain to love interest and nothing else. (You could tell sjm was struggling to come up with something to say about Elain until she hit on hope being her strength, which she wrote in acotar. That was much more significant to Elain’s character, who she is as a *person*, but sure. Let’s just make everything about fucking the saddest bat.)

I mean personally, you know who was described as a dreamer? Born into a court of nightmares? In canon? Mor. Morlain confirmed. Case closed 😌 (but that’s how tenuous that argument is. If we’re going to take dreamer as a ship hint, then it’s morlain all the way.)

#antielriel #wow haven’t used that tag in a while #stay back satan #ask #anon

[nyxreads]

Can I just say the biggest Elriel shippers are Freye and Nesta and I'm loving it she keeps on telling Rhys what happened Azriel? You know Azriel is her perfect mate. Have I mentioned Azriel recently? No alright Azriel is literally perfect lmao I'm loving it I bet she goes off on Rhys when she finds out because she doesn't give a f about the mating bond she already knows it's usually wrong and only was right in very rare cases like hers.

Hello anon,

Right? We have these scenes of them noticing it and somehow approved of it:

“Why not make them mates?” I mused. “Why Lucien?”

“So is Azriel.”

Azriel and Elain remained in the sitting room, my sister showing him the plans she’d sketched to expand the garden in the back of the town house, using the seeds and tools my family had given her tonight. Whether he cared about such things, I had no idea, but I sent him a silent prayer of thanks for his kindness before Rhys and I slipped upstairs.

I saw the painting in my mind: the lovely fawn, blooming spring vibrant behind her. Standing before Death, shadows and terrors lurking over his shoulder. Light and dark, the space between their bodies a blend of the two. The only bridge of connection … that knife.

Letting him see that she understood why he stood in the doorway, why he wouldn’t go near the fire. His secret to tell, never hers.

So Nesta gave him a small nod and walked back into the fray, taking a seat on the rolled arm of the nearest couch.

I really do wonder how Feyre or the IC especially Elain will react once they found out Rhys ordered Az to stay away from her (tho I doubt Sjm would even mention it since it's in the bonus chapter).

Have a great day anon!

#anon asks #pro elriel #elriel

[thesistersarcheron]

Hello! It's your Secret Santa again

I have a couple of tropes that I'm kind of toying with, but are there any you'd really enjoy reading? Things like enemies to lovers, reluctant mates, just one person being oblivious to the other's devotion, etc etc.

Just asking so I can get a better idea of what you'd like :)

Has anyone ever told you that you have great taste in tropes? 💕 Each one in that list sounds amazing.

I love it when one half of a ship is all-in and totally devoted (like Rhys or Cassian), but the other is either trying very hard to convince themselves that they're enemies or does everything they can to dismiss their own feelings (like Feyre or Nesta).

Forbidden love is also on the list, if you're leaning toward something angstier! I feel like that's a given for me as an Elriel shipper. 😅 I just love the small, sweet scenes where they find an innocent moment to be together... Or even after their love isn't forbidden anymore, they still sneak around and guard those moments because they know how precious they can be. The Meeting on the Turret Stairs is actually one of my favorite paintings for inspiration when I'm writing my own fics!

I also love the "us against the world" trope. That could be soft, like coming home at the end of a long day to decompress with the person who makes you feel safest and most loved, or in the dark, "I would raze the world if you only asked" way that Rhys sometimes shows around Feyre.

#i am so sorry for the essay and the late response!! #a migraine took me out this afternoon and i ended up laying in bed thinking of my favorite tropes #answered #anonymous #acotar secret santa #i think the only trope i really don't like is lifelong friends to lovers tbh #i hope this helps omg

[acourtofthought]

Look I ship Elriel but I would be fine with Elucien. I don't really care that much I'm just tired of waiting and want a book YESTERDAY.

Ik we likely won't agree on who Elain ends up with, but can we at least agree on who she WON'T end up with?

*Cough*

The TAMLAIN shippers? They are crazy. Please tell me you can at least agree with that one? Idk your stance on Tamlin, but even theories have a limit. I don't know in what world Elain would end up with her sister's ex who literally trapped her in a house 🙄

Why do people hate elain so much that they want her to end up alone when she has not one but two love interests at the moment, or they want her to end up with a guy SJM literally called an asshole several times? weird weird weird !

The Tamlain ship is very disturbing to me too. These are HEA romance books and that HEA does not just mean a HEA for the main couple. I truly do not think Sarah would write the story of Tamlin and Elain, where their pairing would cause so much hurt for the others who are supposed to have found their happily ever afters. Tamlin joining Elain to celebrate Nyx's birthday and Rhys and Feyre's house? Tamlin, having verbally and physically assaulted Lucien, ending up with the mate of the male who tried to help TAMLIN'S court to the point he performed the Rite in place of Tamlin with the women who s.xually assaulted him? Tamlin having terrified Nesta and Elain by breaking down their door and kidnapping Feyre, then causing Feyre trauma? I do understand the debates, where Tamlin was also in a bad place and Rhys and Feyre both let him continuing believing in Rhys's lies, however that doesn't change Feyre's perception of the past. She feels Tamlin caused her mental harm and while I can understand the nuances behind his actions, she should still not be forced to have him as a part of family get togethers. I don't think Tamlin is evil and I do think there is a hea for him somewhere out there but when the author is on record as calling Tamlin a douche, that he sucks, and calls Lucien one of her favorite characters, I think the Tamlain ship is going down the exact river the Brycriel shippers are now sailing.

[nikethestatue]

Hi Nike!!

So, I was challenged to do an Elriel PowerPoint presentation, my friend is almost a Gwynriel shipper, which a have nothing against, but she has started to say some of the bad things about Elain and I see this as my opportunity to make her see Elain's character, her struggles and values. My point is not to make her stop her ship, my is to defend Elriel and most of all Elain.

And since you're one of the most active Elriel shipper and defenser, I was wondering if you would mind giving me some advice?

Thank you for attention anyway!!! Love your blog 😘

✌🏻💕-anon

PS.: I apologize if there's something written wrong, English is not my first language, but I try

You guys are pretty serious, huh?! With a Power Point presentation!

Elain is:

Smart, thoughtful and caring: She is the only one who maintained a relationship with all her family members, even in the hovel. She did not abuse or ignore her father, even if he might have deserved it. She was the only one who bought a gift of paints for Feyre, noticing her love for painting, and though she was friendly with Nesta--when NO ONE was friendly with Nesta--she also tried to maintain peace between Nesta and everyone else. She tried to maintain peace between Nesta and Feyre and Rhys as well. Regardless of what Nesta said to her, and how she treated her, even ignoring her at the marker or telling her that she doesn't want to see her again (again, Elain didn't do anything to her at all), Elain still managed to swallow her pride and hurt, and wanted to see Nesta, begged for Feyre to invite her to Solstice, and bought her gifts. Again, regardless of what was going on, Elain got Nesta a birthday gift (a scarf) and Solstice gifts each year. She was the only one who came to visit Nesta--even if they got into a massive fight--to see how she was faring.

She was the only one who cared enough about humans to suggest that they needed to be saved too, as proposed Lord Nolan as an option. She was willing to be glamoured and go into the heart of a Fae-hating domain, to plead with him to take and protect the humans.

She is curious and eager to learn about the world around her: she integrated herself in Velaris, made friends, opened herself to possibilities and what she is often accused of--being passive, being a cry baby, weak and scared--isn't actually canonically correct.

Elain was the first one thrown into the Cauldron and the first one to survive the ordeal.

She was changed inside and out, her very species were changed, and yet she survived (as the King himself said, that only 'strong individuals' can survive it). She received visions, she was torn away from Graysen and her whole life, and mated to a man she didn't know or want--but she did not become bitter, she never blamed Feyre, for example, or Rhys for what happened. Yes, she cried over her lost life (and who wouldn't?) but when push came to shove, she stood up and helped--just like Nesta--to the best of her abilities.

She found the Suriel, she spoke of her visions, she pleaded on behalf of the humans.

She killed the King.

She saved Nesta and Cassian.

She found a life for herself, and when others thought less of her, she actually always stepped up. She said that she is part of Night Court, and went to Hewn City just like everyone else, without fail. She doesn't use Feysand--contrary to popular antis belief--she doesn't ask Feyre for money. She works outside the home, she also cooks and gardens for Feysand. Basically, she lives a normal life. She is not petulant, resentful, angry or moping. She managed to turn a terrible situation into something that she can work/live with, and there is a special strength in that. In making lemonade out of lemons.

#elain #pro elain #elain archeron