#nesta critical

[whitedemon-ladydeath]

tbh the IC and Nesta and Rhys dogging on Tamlin on his OWN PROPERTY when his mental health was already literally in shambles and he was completely alone was so unpleasant and hollow reading

they're literally just kicking a dead horse at this point and it's gross. he's not even fighting back or defending himself. it's pathetic

The IC are some pinnacle of morality and they are circled in on someone on their own land telling him he's a pos and should just die already and he's not even fighting back nor even instigating it in the first place

what is the purpose of this other than drawing out a punishment and feeding their own egos. they won. she left. his court is ruined. he Wants to Die already. literally it's just gross man

#a court of thorns and roses #acotar #sjm critical #tamlin #anti ic #anti inner circle #Nesta critical #damn never thought id be using that tag

[acourtofcriticalthinking]

i cannot believe–

you know what, i actually can believe it needs to be said.

sustained verbal abuse and neglect is not the same as strangers fighting each other as children or brothers sparring in a war camp.

#feyre archeron #nesta critical #elain critical #rhysand #cassian #azriel #acotar

[confusedbookworm]

Feyre never cared about Nesta spending her money in the night court, that isn’t why she cried into her eggs when getting a bill. She was crying because she saw her sister slowly destroying herself. Nesta pushed everyone away. Nesta wouldn’t allow anyone to help her and that’s why Feyre had to eventually force her to make a decision .

It was never about the money for her.

#pro feyre #high lady feyre #feyre archeron #nesta critical

[highladyofterrasen7]

Gonna give my unwanted opinion on this book:

I really love feysand but I didn’t like how they were portrayed in this book. Especially the out of character things Rhys did. However I do not hate him for it. More like an annoyance. Amren pissed me off more than Rhys did. Nesta had a personal vendetta against him. And he was a dick because of how she’d treated his mate, otherwise they could’ve probably been friends.

It doesn’t not effect my opinion of either feyre or Rhys because I can see reasoning and I won’t let four books of development and adventure be destroyed because of a biased perspective. (Rhys was painted differently even between nesta and cassian)

Something that made the secret of nyx’s wings worse was probably that we did not see reasoning and perspective from either feyre or rhys. I would’ve liked a chapter from either with the aftermath of the secret coming out, Rhys grovelling, feyre being angry, etc, and then getting over it because they’re both strong.

And the switch over from 1st person to 3rd person was one I didn’t really like.

Nesta was more of a problem then people like to let on. Her “Badass” behaviour was a result of her treating feyre (the person who provided for her, was the reason she didn’t die, gave her a home, welcomed her into her court and stopped her from wasting away) like shit. She also treated the rest of the inner circle, including cassian, like shit. And it wasn’t all “trauma” because she was a bitch even before it.

However towards the end of the book I liked her more as she got over it.

A sad truth is that without intervention nesta probably would���ve died of alcohol poisoning or similar.

My opinion on acosf is very variable. Having your favourite characters villanised and almost killed for one person’s character arc is not a good feeling. I fell more in love with cassian and am excited to see what becomes of the valkyries and the dread trove.

I like the story, but it is not enough for me to overlook the plot holes and I hope the next one is better and displays the ic better.

Gwyn and az I’m counting on you

Sorry it’s really long but I don’t have many chances to give my opinion on insta and I feel like tumblr would be a better place to do it.

#sarah j maas #acotar #sjm critical #nesta archeron #nesta critical #cassian #acosf #acosf plot holes #nessian #feysand #feyre archeron #rhysand #azriel

[shallyne]

"SJM didn't plan to include Nesta and Elain in future books. You can't be mad about their actions in book 1."

I don't care what SJM planned. Is it in the books? YES! Then it happened.

She's the author. She wrote it. She included it in the books. If she changes her mind about the characters then she has to give them a good arc to make them likeable. Because they did what they did in book 1.

It doesn't matter if SJM wanted to give them their own stories or not.

I can be mad about their actions in book 1 BECAUSE IT'S IN THE BOOKS

#acotar #a court of thorns and roses #anti nesta archeron #anti nesta #nesta archeron #nesta critical #Elain critical #Elain archeron critical #elain archeron #elain #sjm #sjmass

[strangecreationchaos]

nesta being nesta the lady death!

well nesta pointed a finger at the king of hybern in acomaf and we all know what happened to him jn acowar!

now nesta pointed a finger at tamlin in acosf!! we kinda know where sarah leading us!! 😂😂

#pro nesta #nesta stan #nesta supremacy #nesta archeron #nesta is a queen #nesta critical #lady death #pro archeron sisters #archeron sisters #acotar series #acotar fandom #acotar #anti tamlin

[rosesfox]

You know what really bothers me. It’s that these fucking n/esta stans often like swapping her to feyre’s storyline. FEYRE’S. “Oh if Nesta’s high lady…ooh I bet she could easily defeat aramantha badass style…oh she can use the bow and arrow hunter vibes…why did feyre looked at ouroburous, it should be nesta…hmm I think feyre won’t be a good mother to nyx and nessian will take good care of him..ooh imagine if she was rhys’s mate.” disgusting honestly. I never saw a feyre stan making feyre a valkyrie? or making the made objects? or fighting the blood rite? Call them aus or hc all they want but you know they like comparing her to Feyre and to the point that they keep on changing Nesta and making it look like she was the mc of the og acotar series? It just looks so desperate to steal Feyre’s storyline and creating these silly takes as if she doesn’t have a storyline already. It’s funny how they try to make Feyre look ‘incompetent’ in their takes and they add that ‘if it were Nesta though…’ like literally stfu Feyre’s literally one of the biggest hearts in the series and her storyline was HER JOURNEY. It was HER CHARACTER that was made for this. That was made to be a hunter, a high lady (potentially a high queen), who defeated amarantha, who fixed the cauldron, who looked at the ouroburous, who’s part of the inner circle. Not nesta. Or elain. Or any Valkyries.

this is so true! first they delete everything that happened in the original trilogy and act as if acosf is the only book in existence. they exclude that everything they want nesta to do, feyre has done long ago. people saying all the time like nesta would be better than feyre at this and that, when she canonically isn't. and i don't talk about it in a hateful place, but i've said it a few times that nesta just hasn't this kind of development. she had no interest in learning to use a bow, she did not sacrifice her existence to look into ouroburous and try to find a way to save the people. nesta wasn't even able to try to defend her little sister when she was kidnapped by tamlin, and she feels bad about it herself. she wouldn't face amarantha, she hasn't already.

people saying that nessian would take better care of nyx than feysand, that nesta would be a better mate for rhys than feyre is just proof that it's all hatred towards feyre. there is no valid argument that supports and shows that nesta would really be better, it's just this blind hatred that feyre started to receive after acosf.

nesta certainly has other qualities, just not feyre's. today she is a warrior who never intended to rule anything. the comparison only attracts hatred from all sides.

#anon ask #feyre archeron #pro feyre archeron #nesta critical #nesta archeron #acosf #anti acosf

[bookishfeylin]

I'm curious about your alluding to not liking Nesta as a character as she's a favorite of mine. I will readily admit my brain creates all kinds of head cannons, lore, and character development that I then have a hard time distinguishing from canon 😅 I also did not want to read ACOFAS or ACOSF because I heard Nesta was dragged through the mud pretty badly. Thank you, I really enjoy your blog! (Atlantis: The Lost Empire appreciation for daaayyys)

Hi! Thank you so much!

Yes, I really don't like Nesta that much, mainly because mean characters aren't my type. That being said, I can't truly hate her and I never bash her on this blog because she's written too inconsistently for me or ANYONE to truly call her "emotionally abusive" which I do have another post about in the works lol like my younger brother has said worse stuff to me than she's said to Feyre. Mean? Yes. Abusive.. idk seems like a stretch

But yes, she's treated HORRIBLY in ACOSF, in which Feysand lock her up in the House of Wind despite locking Feyre up being Tamlin's cardinal sin. Hmmmmm among other things. It's just... bad all around. The bad writing that begins in ACOMAF culminates into a MESS in ACOSF.

And yes, Atlantis: The Lost Empire deserves more love and hypeeeeeeeee

#ask #acotar #nesta critical

[kataraavatara]

these were a little too real for tiktok. maybe someday…

#carly’s pro nesta propaganda #nesta deserves better #feyre critical #anti inner circle #anti ic #anti nessian #anti cassian

[wannabewriterlol]

I want tamlin and Nesta to start a therapy group and just work through the copious amount of gaslighting they’ve faced by Rhysand, Ferye, and the his merry band of idiots.

#and let’s be honest #just the whole of #prythian #like I just want them to sit down with a cup of wine and just open up #and recover together #I also want Nesta to help recover the spring court #pro nesta #nesta archeron #nesta acosf #tamlin #pro tamlin #acotar #acomaf #acowar #acosf #acotar critical #sara j mass critical #acofas #anti inner circle #anti rhysand #feyre critical

[lorcandidlucienwill]

The most disturbing things portrayed in ACOTAR

Victim-blaming: Lucien tries to help Feyre and gets physically abused by Tamlin as a result. Feyre then proceeds to call him a dog despite Lucien doing everything he could in a difficult situation. And we're supposed to...support Feyre on this? And Rhysand throws around words like "can never forgive" man stfu you prick.

Sexual Assault: The most disturbing thing is not that Rhysand sexually assaulted Feyre. It's that he's never held accountable for this and never even apologizes at ANY point in the series. There are so many examples but this is the one that is the most disturbing.

Double Standards: We have Tamlin locking Feyre up for her own good being vilified, yet Rhysand is championed for locking Lucien and Nesta up in houses for their own good. Huh? WTF.

War Crimes: What Feyre did to the Spring Court, manipulating the sentries with the whole Ianthe thing and basically getting them killed, then weakening the Spring Court rulership which resulted in all those villagers in the Spring Court getting killed, then laying the Summer Court bare to Hybern as well, are nothing short of war crimes. And...instead of feeling regret, we have the main characters saying "Hybern's actions are their own." Like bitch what? Hybern wouldn't have been able to do shit if it wasn't for you! Have some damn accountability! And the fact that Tamlin and Tarquin are vilified for this never ceases to irk me.

Grooming: Rhysand groomed Feyre. He made excuses for everything he did with trauma, then sent Feyre out to do tasks for him like she's some kind of weapon he can use. WITHOUT giving her proper information, there is no choice. And everything he does is constantly explained away, until eventually Feyre becomes his trophy wife. Rhysand basically assigns Cassian to do the same for Nesta. I'm holding out hope that Elain will be saved from the Night Court.

The pregnancy debacle: the whole thing with the baby having wings and Rhysand withholding information from Feyre is just...disturbing. Idc if you're not telling her FoR hEr OwN gOoD, it is HER life at stake and she deserves to know. They didn't even try to shapeshift her to try and save her life? Like why is everybody seemingly more concerned about the baby than the mother? Disgusting. And why is Nesta vilified for being the only one to tell Feyre? She said it to hurt her, blah blah blah. She also wanted to show Feyre that their situations are similar. That they're BOTH being shit on by the Night Court. And when she's close to a breaking point...Nesta is forced to hike a mountain? That is physical abuse. Also, Rhysand being extremely territorial putting a shield over her and barely letting Feyre go anywhere is beyond weird.

Suicide baiting: What Rhysand did to Tamlin in ACOFAS is nothing short of suicide baiting. And...only Lucien seems to really be that concerned about it? Like...are you telling me I'm supposed to be supporting Rhysand after he basically told a depressed male to kill himself?

Segregation: Separating the Hewn City from Velaris IS segregation, no matter what excuse you try to come up with. You can't claim they're all shitty people, since your bestie Mor comes from the CoN. So, there are good people stuck in the CoN unable to get out of their torment because Rhysand decided that only certain individuals are allowed in Velaris.

Performance Feminism: Establishing laws to help women and not doing shit to enforce them is performance feminism. If he's as powerful as he says, he can 100% stop wing-cutting and r*pe. But, he's a goddamn virtue signaler so he doesn't fucking care. The thing is, SJM could've handled these topics in a much better way and it would've been fine. But she completely fucked shit up here and it's crazy that some people don't see it. Part of me is still waiting for the final book where she says, psych rhysand was the villain the whole time. If so, I'll take everything back.

#lucien vanserra #pro lucien vanserra #pro nesta archeron #nesta archeron #tamlin #feyre archeron #anti rhysand #anti feysand #anti nessian #anti inner circle #anti ic #anti e/riel #sjm critical #pro tamlin

[whitedemon-ladydeath]

sorry the only SJM female leads I actually trust realistically with weapons is Manon and Aelin bec they're actually well trained warriors of years upon years but somehow Feyre and Nesta can girlboss their way with ancient death deities? don't get me wrong I love me a good Girl with a Sword but come ON

#a court of thorns and roses #acotar #sjm critical #aelin ashryver #manon blackbeak #nesta critical #sadly #feyre critical #i guess

[thedickgraysons]

i dont have all of the words for it right now but there's something so gross about the way sjm chose to handle tamlin's trauma and his responses to being triggered post acotar. and it's not the fact that she writes it at all, but the way the narrative beats you over the head with the fact that tamlin was Wrong for being harassed by amarantha and not giving her what she wanted, Wrong for being affected by it, and then he was Wrong for not pushing feyre's clear boundaries (her insistence to not speak about what happen UTM) when that is a trigger for the both of them.

tamlin's not sleeping in the bed as a beast as he is also incredibly traumatized after being utm, its framed as him being possessive. he doesn't insist feyre keep her powers secret and not come with him to hunt beasts because he had just watched her die, its because he's controlling. there's no addressing of how feyre was using him sexually as much as he was indulging in her, because the fact of the matter is they were on a path of mutual self-destruction.

then there is his and nesta's fandom and canon vilification and over-criticism because their responses to their trauma are "ugly." the lack of empathy their characters in particular draw. the narrative (rhysand's) insistence that nesta needs to get on her knees and spend the foreseeable future Atoning while tamlin can never make up for his actions.

the justification of the ic forcing themselves onto nesta. the fandom insistence that its rehab when they need to assert control over her, but she can leave at any time when someone points out that rehab centers dont let the therapists sleep with their patients. the gross fandom theory about amarantha being tamlin's mate and how he went "crazy" after the mountain because of it.

all of it reeks of both the 'perfect victim' theory and victim blaming

#acotar critical #pro tamlin #pro nesta archeron #sjm critical #rhysand critical #so apparently i do have the words for it #but also im going to want to rant about this later so im leaving it open ended #the fact of the matter is my god sjm can NOT write mental health without demonizing what she cant romanticize #and the fandom feeds into it #its genuinely so concerning

[confusedbookworm]

Nesta: Insults and purposely uses words to hurt others

Also Nesta: They left me, don’t care and don’t want me included.

Me: Nesta, you are facing the consequences of your own actions and you’ve even admitted you know what you’re doing!

#acosf reread #Nesta is very frustrating #nesta critical #trying my best to understand her #hope I can come to like her #or at least not dislike

[littlefeltsparrow]

Nesta’s emotional breakdown at the end of the hike was not a product of a well-meaning attempt to improve her well-being, but a manipulative pseudo-therapeutic strategy that aimed to simulate vulnerability and masquerade as progress in Nesta’s character arc.

The narrative would have you believe that the hike was an ordeal of self-discovery for Nesta, that Cassian was using a bit of “tough love” to help Nesta get better and grow as a person. But it operates on the idea that exposure to nature, which is presumed to be inherently beneficial, would give Nesta the push she needed to work through her issues and unpack the trauma that had been affecting her all throughout the book. But, this couldn’t be further from the reality that we are shown. Exercise like hiking can be immensely beneficial to one’s mental wellbeing and it can also be therapeutic in some cases, but such benefits are negated when the people involved are subjected to undue hardship and danger during that exercise.

It’s not a coincidence that Nesta opening up to Cassian comes directly after an extremely straining hike, during which she exhausted herself mentally and physically all while in the midst of intense psychological stress. Nobody told her that Feyre was alright after their heated argument, nobody told her that Feyre AGREED that Nesta did the right thing and understood why she did it. Consequently, this omission prolongs Nesta’s emotional anguish and guilt unnecessarily and makes the ordeal of the hike even worse.

Nesta, who has never hiked before in her life, is forced on one against her will, chaperoned by Cassian who does not speak to her and hardly looks at her during the 2 day hike. This is a detail that exposes this hike for what it truly is, a means of breaking Nesta’s spirit to get her back in line. It was never about piecing her back together, it was about shattering her emotionally to punish her for defying Rhysand’s authority. But, the text doesn’t want to admit that, it wants to pretend to make a grand statement on mental health and make a cheap copy of Cheryl Strayed’s memoir “Wild” without any of the pathos. Cassian can feel warm and fuzzy about the accomplishment of opening Nesta’s heart, when in reality, that vulnerability he witnesses is entirely a result of prolonged stress and pain.

So could it be, that Nesta’s emotional “ breakthrough” at the end of the hike, was not due to Cassian’s and the IC’s efforts to help her, but the combined strain of dehydration, exhaustion and intense emotional distress finally catching up with her after repressing it for 2 days straight?

#a court of silver flames #anti rhysand #pro nesta #nesta archeron #anti acosf #anti feysand #acotar #anti inner circle #anti sjm #sjm critical #anti nessian #anti Cassian #anti ic #acotar critical

[shallyne]

You know, the scene in acowar where the sisters all lay together after Az and Feyre saved Elain from Hybern and Feyre got shot was one of my favourite while reading acowar.

But then we got acosf and it doesn't have any meaning anymore. To me, at least.

#acotar #a court of thorns and roses #anti acosf #feyre archeron #feyre #feyre cursebreaker #high lady of the night court #elain archeron #nesta archeron #archeron sisters #nesta critical