#nestastan

[wisteriabookss]

Everything Sarah said about ACOSF in her Instagram Live

- Sarah showed the book, its got a glossy finish and is super big *photos to come, I took screenshots, they’ll be at the end of this post*

- The book is 757 pages long

- The Barnes & Noble, Waterstone, and Indigo edition of ACOSF will have Rhys and Feyre’s extra excerpt, and the Books-A-Million edition will have Azriel’s extra excerpt. 

- Sarah says that she can confirm and deny that Eris is in the book. He is her favorite Autumn court character. She says she “loves bad characters who act bad but have a secret history and secret motivations.” She likes writing about people who are mean to the IC and the other main characters, and doesn’t see them as saviors. Eris “chops” them down.

- Expect a good amount of Azriel content. It’s hard to talk about him without spoiling. He’s in the book more than Eris. Him and Cassian have a close bond, and Azriel has a lot of his own shit going on that we’ll get some hints off. There’s a song by the Killer’s that reminds them of him.

- The relationship between Nesta and Azriel is not a massive arc, but over the course of the book they recognize a lot of the same things within each other. Nesta see’s through Azriel’s secrets. Azriel treats her like a normal person, which she doesn’t get a lot. They have mutual respect and understanding for each other, but it’s not a deep friendship like Cassian and Feyre. They both tease Cassian. 

- Bread-crumb hints will be scattered in Azriel’s extra excerpt. 

- ACOSF is steamier than Crescent City 2, “in terms of bodily fluids.” (CC2 is still being edited though)

- We will find out what was in the box Cassian throws into the river. It is something he spent a lot of time thinking about, and tracking down, and a gift he knows she would have loved. It was something very precious. It’s not a siphon.

- Sarah said “maybe,” to a question about whether or not we get to see Feyre pregnant in ACOSF. 

- The King of Hybern was inspired by Sarah’s disgust and horror at the rise of Trump. 

- We will see some High Lords in ACOSF. Helion will make an appearance. Sarah loves him. 

- We will see what Lucien is up to. He makes a couple of appearances. 

- We will be proud of Nesta’s growth. Her journey meant a lot to Sarah, more than any other character she’s written. She starts off the book in a dark, broken, jagged place. She is hurting and hurting other people. She’s a hot mess, and beyond imploded by that point. Her journey from that place to the person that she becomes by the end is massive. Sarah didn’t sugarcoat things. Things are told the way they happened.

- Nesta earns her ending. She had to fight every step of the way. She get’s her happily-ever after, even though she will occasionally suffer greatly. 

- So much of Nesta’s journey is tangled up in the past. We will revisit those past events from Nesta’s perspective. We’re going to see her emotions and how she felt in those past moments. Past events will be explained. SJM will not make her a “nice-sweet” person, she wants her to be hard-edged. She is not going to sweep her mistakes under the carpet. Nesta knows everything she’s done wrong, she’s not oblivious to it. 

- Sarah will confirm and deny that Rhys has a last name. 

- There’s a birthday book that Sarah got that has a quote in it that is Nesta’s motto, as well as Sarah’s. 

Link to the birthday book: https://birthdate.co/products/the-birthdate-book?variant=32794474807399¤cy=USD&utm_medium=product_sync&utm_source=google&utm_content=sag_organic&utm_campaign=sag_organic&gclid=CjwKCAiAl4WABhAJEiwATUnEF6sedl8NL8USeR7JyHUXkVGFC6vqenbDDCaPNsZAM62242Bfj4C_9BoCyYAQAvD_BwE 

Pictures of the book (I sincerely apologize for how grainy they are):

#ACOSF #A Court Of Frost and Starlight #Sarah J Maas #SJM #Nessian #Nesta #Nesta Archeron #NestaArcheron #Cassian #Nesta x Cassian #Nesta Stan #Anti-nesta #Nesta-Stan #nestastan #antinesta #Azriel #Eris #eris vanserra #erisvanserra #feyre #feyre archeron #Lucien

[furiousgoddess]

Let me be honest with you guys

Spoilers ahead - the end of ACOSF

Again, I’m mad at SJM.

Don’t get me wrong. ACOSF was beautiful written and it touched me on a mental lever more than any other book from her. But HELL, I didn’t like the ending. Not because it’s a good one but because how everything ended, the way things happened. It seemed so... easy. Simple. And honestly, I did not like that. I’d expected more. More drama, more pain, more... more of a challenge. Don’t get me wrong, it’s been quite a tough time for Nesta, I understand that. But... nah. It was just too easy for me.

And the fact that Nesta lost her powers made me furious. Like... What’s wrong with a strong, powerful female character? Nesta changed and I’m sure she find a way to cope with her powers. But then again, maybe she didn’t want to keep her powers. I don’t know, honestly. However, the way she lost them made me angry. Nesta did it because she loved her sister, yes. But... Idk. I just hoped her to stay powerful, you know?

At least Cassian and Nesta are mates. That’s all what matters to me right now. And it makes me happy again to read how happy they are.

#acofas #acosf #acosf spoilers #acotar #acowar #sarah j maas #nestastan #nesta archeron #cassian

[lectophile]

*ACSF arrives at my door*

*speed run to door*, *pushes dog away from door with one foot while picking up package with my hands*

*closes door with butt*, *rips box open*, *gently dumps book out, sets box down, washes hands, and sprints to room*

*book in grip while I look at myself in the mirror*

Me: You CANNOT read this book all day and all night.

Also me: Yes I can.

Me: No you can’t.

*sits down in bed and smells book, and thumbs through all the pages*

Also me: EEE NESTA I FUCKING MISSED YOU

Me: NO NO, ONCE YOU OPEN YOU WONT COME BACK

*reads title page three thousand times*, *shifts book away so tear lands on bed instead of book*

Also me: I can make it through the rest of this pandemic JUST because of you.

*begins reading*

Me: Fuck

~Next morning, still up, class starts in 5 minutes~

*I look up at myself, red eyed, tear stained, in the mirror on the vanity across my bed*

Me and also me: fuck, we’re not even done.

#books #nesta #acomaf #acotar #acowar #acofas #nesta archeron #acsf #sjm #feyre #elain kingslayer #elain #nestastan #pro nesta #nesta x cassian #nesta deserves better

[rhysandswingspan]

Nesta to her Feelings

#acotar #nesta #nestastan #nesssian

[wisteriabookss]

My ACOSF Review (2/5 Stars)

Please respect my opinions. Not everything I say will be praiseful or nice. While I liked a lot of this book, a lot of it frustrated and bothered me. 

This review contains spoilers. Read at your own risk. 

This review will be more of an overall impression, and I will get more in depth about certain characters in future posts. 

I eventually got into the plot of the book, but I don’t think it was as great or creative as it could’ve been. I feel like SJM recycled ideas she’s already used to create the storyline. A quest to find a magic object that can stop a war and save the world? That sentence applies to both ACOWAR and ACOSF. It’s even more disappointing when you know there were other routes the plot could’ve taken but were eventually scratched. It was the perfect set up for an Illyrian mountain setting, it was written in canon, and, unsurprisingly, SJM retconned and changed it. 

The Valkyrie plot was cool, if a bit forced and out of place. Nesta barely starts training, and all of a sudden she wants to recreate a powerful band of female warriors that we’ve never heard of in the context of this world? Honestly, it feels like SJM watched Thor: Ragnarok, and was like, “Yes, that’s what I’m gonna do.” I thought Helions winged horses would come into play with that, but I guess we’ll have to see.

I thought the Blood Rite plot was gone, but we got it in the end, even though it was rushed. The most beautiful parts of the book happened during the Rite, so I’m glad we got to see those.

The ending of Briallyn was so swift I literally had to go back a page to make sure I read it right. Literally one page, and she’s killed. I expected more. I can’t say I'm surprised by how rushed her death was when I knew the Feysand trouble was approaching, and the number of pages left was getting smaller. There wasn’t a doubt in my mind that SJM would save Rhys, Feyre, and their baby. Out of the entire ensemble in Kingdom of Ash, she only had the heart to kill Gavriel, who wasn’t too much of a main character. There was no way in hell she would do that to Feysand. 

I’m sorry, but I do not like the name Nyx. Imagine calling someone Nyx? Did she originally have it as Nick, but just needed to put an X? My eyes were rolling so hard when I read it. Just put an ‘O’ in front of it and end our misery, though I still would’ve rolled my eyes at that name too. The name just reminds me of all the blogger moms who put X’s in their child’s names for dramatic effect that ends up looking like they can’t spell.

I also didn’t appreciate the out of touch colloquialisms in this book either. Prythian doesn’t have a name for anxiety, depression, or PTSD, but they know what lactic acid means?

The amount of sex in this book was something we had been warned to expect, and I think due to the fastness of me reading this book (finished in two sittings), it made it feel like the sex was happening every other page, which it basically was. I’m not going to be mad though because a) it was well written, b) I didn’t feel like it harmed the plot too much, and c) this is the only Nessian smut we’re going to see in canon. But that threesome line with Az. . . y'all know which one I’m talking about. . . the one with the details about certain positions. . .  chile um anyways let’s move on. 

I called it months ago that Emerie would either be Mor or Azriel’s love interest, and looks like it’s going to be Mor. SJM’s writing is fairly predictable, especially when it comes to romantic ships, and she couldn’t have been more obvious about the two of them. I will write about Gwyn and Azriel in Azriel’s chapter review (cause that monstrosity needs a post of its own).

Now about Nesta’s healing arc. Some of it was satisfying and others were saddening. I’m happy that Nesta was able to find purpose in her life, and not believe herself to be worthless or pathetic, but strong and powerful. I’m happy she found Gwynn and Emerie; I love their friendship. I love how they stuck by each other no matter what, and saw the good and potential in one another.

However, even by the end of the book, Nesta still thinks herself as undeserving. Of Cassian, of love. She knows she has it, and she's so grateful for it, but she still believes she is undeserving of it, that Cassian is just so much better than her. A part of learning to love and live with yourself is knowing what you deserve, so why SJM took that from her character, I don’t know. I was continuously disappointed when said she was undeserving of anything, even after she had learned and grown from her mistakes. 

Maybe SJM thinks the belief of being undeserving of one's partner is romantic. I’m telling you now, it’s not. All that does is give unnecessary power to a person you believe you are undeserving of, and this leads to unequal power dynamics in a relationship. Rhys was the exact same with Feyre, so I’m guessing it's a theme.

Speaking of romantic themes, the repetition of the “your mine-im yours” line in this book was nauseating. Your going to make Nesta say the exact same thing her sister said when they had sex? Is there nothing else SJM could’ve come up with? It’s just so weird. And I swear to god if I see Elain do the same thing I’m gonna vomit. 

Nesta apologized to Cassian about what she said to him on Solstice in ACOFAS as if he never called her unlovable. As if he never said he didn’t understand why her sisters love her. He never apologized for that. There was so much apologizing from Nesta to Cassian about her calling him a brute, as if Cassian didn’t say he was “shackled” to her after she clearly explained how she feared she would lose her humanity if she accepted the word mate. Not if she accepted him, but the word. 

For Cassian to routinely tell Nesta to, “shut her fucking mouth,” when she used some attitude against Rhys was comical. Rhys has been bad mouthing and disrespecting Nesta this whole time, and when she shows some warranted attitude in return (not even an insult), Cassian rips into her. It doesn’t matter what he did for you, babe. Not everyone has the same experience with Rhys, so Cassian getting angry when Nesta showing anger at the way she was being treated was wrong. Her experience with him does not become invalidated just because Cassian has a good relationship with him.

There wasn’t a character arc for Cassian, which was one of the most disappointing parts of the book. He thinks of himself as inferior and undeserving as well, and by the end of the book it’s not even clear if that stance has changed. We saw him grow into the courtier persona in the meeting with Eris when Tamlin shows up, but we never see it again. I know there were instances in which he stood up for Nesta, but he also very quicky after that became silent in other moments when they were insulting her. The next book isn’t in his pov, but I’m hoping we see him become more confident in himself and make a firmer stance to protect Nesta (although I doubt he’ll need to seeing as how Rhys kisses the ground she walks on now).

Now onto Nesta’s apologies to the IC. I think Nesta apologizing to Feyre was expected, and I’m glad the sisters had that moment. I am, however, upset that there was never a moment where all the sisters sat down, and hashed it out. Talked about what they’d been through, how it affected them, and how it affected their feelings toward each other. After everything that happened between Nesta and Elain, all that hurt, you’re telling me all it took was Nesta to make Elain laugh by saying “fuck you,” and we’re good? It’s lazy writing. 

Elain telling Nesta that she only cared about how her trauma affected her did not sit right with me. Nesta sat by Elain’s side for weeks when she was in the thick of her struggles, and refused to leave her alone for fear that her struggles would eat her up alive. She constantly looked for anything that could help her sister, and never left her unprotected. Nesta and Elain didn’t communicate after the war, for reasons that we now know was because of Nesta’s guilt for Elain being kidnapped. It is not abnormal when a family member has been traumatized by things that have happened to another family member. That’s expected. Ask any family who has lost a child or had a relative go through something horrible.

Elain is acting as if Nesta has only ever been concerned with herself when she’s spent her entire life concerned with Elain. I made a post long ago about how the IC only wanted Nesta to heal for their sake rather than her sake, and there’s so much more evidence for that than for Elain. Elain’s healing process was able to be understood and encouraged by the IC, whereas they had no idea what to do with Nesta. So for Elain to come at Nesta for not caring about her trauma, a second after Nesta was trying to protect her from further trauma by telling her she didn't want her seering for the Trove, was unwarranted.

Speaking about Elain looking for the Trove, what happened there? Elain had this whole speech where she said she wanted to do something and no one could stop her and then we just. . . don’t hear anything about it again? SJM had a perfect opportunity to do something powerful with Elain there, and completely threw it away. 

Nesta’s apology to Amren was extreme, dramatic, and honestly, unnecessary. Amren called Nesta a “pathetic waste of life,” constantly demeaned and degraded her anytime her name was mentioned, and said she did all this because Nesta used her as a shield against her problems and the IC. Seriously? Nesta using Amren as a shield does not warrant that kind of verbal abuse. It doesn't make her a pathetic waste of life. Amren’s been alive for how long? And reacts like that to an obvious side effect of extreme trauma? No ma'am. Nesta getting on her damn knees was too much, and obviously just another moment, like a lot of moments, that SJM felt the need to make dramatic. And then having the audacity to let Amren say to Nesta that, “the struggle with the darkness is worth it,” when she was one of those people who contributed to that darkness is disgusting.

I didn’t like Rhys at all in this book. Even after he saw inside Nesta’s mind about her experience in the cauldron, he was still wary and rude with her. Literally anytime Nesta showed that she was changing, Rhys didn’t change anything about his attitude or behavior towards her. A moment of regret, and then he’s back to being arrogant ass Rhys. Him not telling Feyre about the baby was also extremely stupid. It’s her body, her life, her baby’s life, his life, and she had a right to know what was happening. Not telling her because you didn’t want her to be “upset,” is a dumb excuse. I thought you always promised to let her make her own decisions, Rhys? What happened to that promise? The one that was a hell of a lot better than the stupid bargain ya’ll made? Though Nesta told her out of anger, good on her for telling her sister. Should’ve happened way sooner. His apology to Nesta was the only one that warranted the dramatics. That is what you get on your knees for.

That whole scene about him becoming High King had me throwing the book. Amren telling Rhys that the swords were some sort of mother-mary-cauldron-blessed-hallelujah sign that he was supposed to be High King had me fuming. It’s Nesta’s power. It’s Nesta’s sword. That should have never been a discussion. Not everything is for Rhys. These people are so blinded by their love for him they can’t even see how arrogant he is. To write Nesta giving back Ataraxia made me so angry after we just had a whole moment where we find out it means inner peace. I just hope that all of this is not foreshadowing Rhys becoming High King. I know you love him Sarah, but please don’t.

All in all, this book wasn’t too bad. There were some great moments and some bad moments. I think SJM’s biggest issue in her writing is that she doesn’t outline, or at least doesn't seem to outline, not thoroughly. I feel like she uses plot devices willy nilly whenever it’s the easiest solution. There was never a moment where I said, “that was clever!” A lot of it was cool, but not clever. Not creative. She also has a tendency to write very dramatically, in staccato type sentences where everything is made into a big moment, which bugs me a lot. 

I love Nesta. She’s still my fav, and will probably always be my fav. This book doesn’t change that, and as you can tell in my review, most of the issues I had weren’t with her behavior, but with the behavior of other characters. I still love Cassian, even though he made me want to rip my hair out sometimes.

Will I read the next books? Probably. I can’t seem to stay away from these characters or these books, so kudos to SJM for writing them. I know a majority of people have given this book 4 or 5 stars, but I can’t bring myself to give it more than 2/5.

#nesta #cassian #nessian #acosf #a court of silver flames #sjm #nesta archeron #nesta x cassian #cassian x nesta #feysand #feyre #feyre archeron #rhysand #elain #elain archeron #amren #sarah j maas #nesta stan #nestastan

[lectophile]

I just realized that Feyre told Rhys her name was Clare Beddor and then Rhys had Clare and her entire family murdered by telling Amarantha that name.

Feyre went to Nesta/Elain’s home and was upset that Nesta didn’t give the Fae a welcome reception when her friend and her family were (in her mind) burnt alive in their own home by Fae.

Yes, Feyre is young, naïve, and scared in that moment so she didn’t really know what she did when she gave Clare Beddor’s name to Rhys; BUT then she somehow lets that whole moment slip her mind and gets pissed/upset when her sister isn’t skipping to the door when she turns up to the house with two big, winged Fae (ik the bat boys aren’t Fae but humans don’t know anything about their world so).

Just wanted to write about a moment Feyre’s explicitly biased point of view was very, very prominently shown and somehow many of us, including me at one point, didn’t see it.

Also, I know Feyre went through a lot after that, my post isn’t saying that she’s a shitty person for forgetting one of the many terrible things that happened to her, I’m just saying that Feyre isn’t a realiable account or an objective account of whether characters are nice or not.

#nesta #acotar #acowar #acomaf #acofas #nesta archeron #sjm #acsf #feyre #feyreandrhysand #high lady feyre #nestastan #pro nesta #nestaarcheron

[lectophile]

Nesta has her own motto.

I don’t know if it’s just me, but they make me cry rivers, rivers and rivers. You know, “My name is Aelin Ashryver Galathynius and I will not be afraid.”

Please, please, please FEBRUARY 16 COME TO ME.

#nestastan #acomaf #acotar #acowar #acofas #nesta archeron #sjm #acsf #nesta

[lectophile]

I just need to get this off of my chest:

An anti-nesta account posted an “I hate cancel culture” post.

Yeah. I know.

#nestastan #pro nesta #nestaarcheron #nesta archeron #nesta

[lectophile]

Why Antis HATE Nesta:

I honestly feel that the true reason for the HATRED, and I mean hatred, not dislike, of Nesta is because she isn’t perfect.

DISCLAIMER: So many people have written posts about this, especially in regards towards the parallel between Katniss Everdeen and Nesta.

Nesta fucked up as an older sister, and she since then has done so much to redeem herself (I.e. sacrificing herself for the war effort, using her powers (which she is fucking scared and wary of) to save the humans, and much much more) — and when antis are faced with that, they go to attack her demeanor. Because if they’re proven that she actually IS an asset, although not a classical archetype of one, to the IC, they have to attack her as a person.

You see, the problem is that she doesn’t check the boxes that these people look for. She has to be either rude but physically strong, or she has to be kind but physically weak. She can either be perfect by destroying the societal mold for what a good girl should be or she should fit it. She does neither: she’s rude and physically weak. Oh no.

That’s why we say you have internalized misogyny. Because you can’t handle a woman NOT being on either extreme. You don’t like Nesta because she didn’t fight to help the family survive; when we tell you she fucked up but worked to make up for it, you say she was rude and mean. You find some reason to hate her no matter what. No matter the fact that she’s a break through female archetype in a genre that is FLOODED with false feminism geared towards white, privileged, straight, cis women. She’s smart and impatient and weak but strong minded and independent and flawed and mean and righteous. She’s self sacrificing AND is able to set boundaries to protect herself. She wants to do good in the world but also acknowledges that she will not always make the best decision for the world. She’s not perfect, she’s far from it, just like you and me no matter how much you try to distance yourself from her.

The fact is, she is so threatening to these readers. She threatens their very strong idea of what a strong female protagonist should be. She can’t pin a guy down and wears dresses; she reads smut instead of reading through old archives to make herself more knowledgeable. She’s just not NOT like “other girls.”

I highly recommend that if you HATE Nesta Archeron with a passion, that you stick to white YA fantasy writers, they will supply you with endless replicas of the same archetype and will never disappoint.

If you’re an anti coming to change my mind, I welcome it—but keep it respectful because (1) this character is important to me and many other readers, so insulting her is insulting us; (2) I will fucking block you and put you on a blast list for who to avoid on Tumblr (😘); (3) being an asshole makes you seem more like the Nesta Archeron you believe is written in the books than the real Nesta Archeron is (😶).

#nesta #acomaf #acotar #acowar #acofas #sjm #nesta archeron #acsf #pro nesta #nestaarcheron #nestastan #nestaxcassian #nesta acotar

[lectophile]

PSA

You ALL need to be ready to scream and cry and laugh and die with me when we finish this book together.

#nesta #acomaf #acotar #acowar #acofas #nesta archeron #sjm #acsf #nestaxcassian #nesta x cassian #pro nesta #nestaarcheron #nestastan

[lectophile]

From now until February 16 I am dedicating myself to my ACSF analyses. I have waited too long and the only way to keep myself from tearing down the world to get my hands on my copy is writing about one of my favorite women. Just a warning.

Also, if you don’t like Nesta: I am so excited for you to backpedal.

#nestastan #pro nesta #nestaarcheron #nesta archeron #nesta deserves better #nesta stan

[lectophile]

“...who now glowed as if she had devoured the moon too.”

That’s all I have to say. Now let me go drown in my own tears.

#nesta #nestaarcheron #nestastan #nestayou'rethemotherfuckingbomb iloveyounesta