#nevermoor theories

[captainbookamir]

Late night ponderings so I might be forgetting some evidence, but I have two theories about Ezra Squall.

1) He's from the Wintersea Republic (common enough theory, I think).

2) He's related to Morrigan.

For the first I think there are plenty of hints - his very intense love of Nevermoor suggests that being there is not a given to him, he knows the song Morrigan uses to call wunder, the creation of the gossamer line (I am remembering that correctly, right?).

I haven't read Hollowpox for a year so I don't remember, but I don't think any of the other Wundersmiths have black eyes? Attention is called repeatedly to Morrigan's eyes in the first book and it's usually mentioned in descriptions of Ezra Squall as well. But another that struck me is his song to call wunder. "Little crowling, little crowling with button black eyes". When I hear those words they also sound like they could apply to Morrigan! Was Ezra actually a Crow, or related to the Crow family?

Anyway I'm also really hoping we learn more about Morrigan's mother in Silverborn and if anyone has interesting theories about her, please tell me!

#Ezra Squall #Morrigan crow #Nevermoor #Nevermoor theories

[winwin17]

Listen up, here's my plan. So you know how Jupiter discovered "seventeen previously undocumented realms"? Yeah, apparently no one's claiming those realms, so let's take one over and turn it into a safe relocation spot for cursed children, where they can legally find new homes.

#just taking some liberties and inserting myself into the nevermoor world lol #i was thinking about cursed children recently #and how there will probably be more until Squall is out of the picture #he will keep going back to kill the eventide born #but somebody's gotta rescue them right? #maybe that's what Jupiter did with “the others” #but it's such a confidential plan that it cant be made public #so thats why he didnt tell mog #anyway i wanna join their world and work on this #nevermoor headcanon #nevermoor theories #nevermoor #nevermoor series #morrigan crow #jupiter north

[yoursassybookwormfriend]

Hollowpox Chapter 31 Analysis

@potionwitchmaya-15 got me thinking about chapter 34, in which there’s this interaction between Morrigan and Squall:

“Why can’t you just stop them if they’re such a problem? I don’t understand!”

“DO YOU THINK I HAVEN’T---”

Squall admits that he TRIED to stop Wintersea and her party. He tried and FAILED. Squall, who can make a disease and transform a house with the flick of a wrist! Squall, who calls himself a GOD! Yet he can’t beat Maud Lowry. He regularly claims that he is second only to her power. Not her party, her. 

Curious, I went back to Chapter 31: Call Me Mog, where Morrigan talks to Wintersea. This chapter is fascinating already, but I thought I’d take a closer look at it with the power of hindsight, and wow, this chapter is full of things to analyze.

I think it’s clear, looking back, just how utterly manipulative Maud is from the beginning. She knows exactly who Morrigan is, how she got there, and what she went there for from the very start, but she plays along with Morrigan’s lies for a while until Morrigan’s hands pass through her wig. 

She also paints the Hollowpox as “Awful business,” and “a terrible and dangerous disease,” when, if we trust Squall (and on this, I do), she was the one who asked him to make it in the first place, as an extermination of the Republic’s wunimals. 

She also denies that the Hollowpox came from the Republic, saying, “Why would you believe such a thing?” and “All borders between the Republic and the Free State are closed. How could this disease have entered one from the other?” Clearly, she is lying about not knowing this, as Squall and the spy vessel from Chapter 18 tell us. Yet even without those facts, Maud herself revealed that she knew that Morrigan escaped to the Free State. Claiming she believes the borders are fully closed is one of the most blatant lies she tells, and even Morrigan can see that it’s a trap.

But specifically, the part that was most interesting about this chapter was this moment on page 441: 

        “But they’re your party,” Morrigan pointed out. “Aren’t you the one with the power?” 

        Maud stiffened slightly and cast her a wary, calculating look. 

        Morrigan rushed on, worried she’d said something rude. “I just mean...well, you’re the president, after all. Shouldn’t they do what you say?”

        “You’d think so, wouldn’t you?” said Maud, and the wary look melted away with a perplexed chuckle. 

This part in the book had always confused me before. Why was Maud so caught off-guard by what Morrigan had said? What did she think Mog was implying? 

Now I think I know: POWER. 

In Hollowpox Chapter 34, Squall calls President Wintersea the most powerful person in the realm. Even in Nevermoor, Squall calls himself the second-most powerful. Maud stiffens after Morrigan calls her “the one with the power”. By Maud’s reaction, I think it’s safe to say that she didn’t think that Morrigan knew of this “power”, and that this “power” is what Squall keeps alluding to. 

Somehow, Wintersea has this secret power that makes her more powerful than a fully realized Wundersmith, and she wasn’t happy when she thought that Morrigan knew about it. What is this power? Who, other than Squall, knows about it? How can it beat someone who calls himself a god? 

What are you hiding, Maud Lowry? 

Please feel free to add your thoughts on Maud and Ch. 31!

#maud lowry #ezra squall #morrigan crow #nevermoor #nevermoor theories #I can't wait to see more of Maud #she's such a fascinating character #someone so blatantly manipulative #yet seemingly powerless and mundane? #who is also implied to have an unparalleled power? #alksdjfhalkjsdfha;

[worldsunlikemyown]

Ezra Squall is very unlikely to have created all the monsters (like the Sewerbeast) which the elders claim to be fighting. It's not his style.

Throughout the three books, Jess characterises Ezra a lot through the things he does, or doesn't do. In Book 1, for example, he refers to Nevermoor as 'my beloved Nevermoor', whereas later in Book 3 he says to Morrigan that '...if you let her into our city, she will devour it.' The lines convey an opposing view of how he feels about Nevermoor, but you can see that in Book 1 his whole thing with showing Morrigan her 'destiny' seems very rehearsed, but his panicked words and dishevelled state in Book 3 feel more spontaneous, and therefore more real. Even in the Ghostly Hours we mostly see him doing things rather than getting a sense of what Morrigan perceives him as, but we still have enough evidence to pin Ezra the Boy down as a fun-loving, ambitious, somewhat insecure sort of boy. We can even identify the people he cares about. That's how he feels so well-rounded despite us getting relatively little content in the books.

Coming back to the point. The monsters we definitely know he created are the Hunt and the Hollowpox, and the one thing common about them is that they're subtle. Yes, their effects (people disappearing, Wunimals acting like Unnimals) are obvious, but it takes people a long time to get to the real root of why and how these things come about. Even the Vool I can understand – I can see them as good spies. But things like the Sewerbeast, or any big legions of monsters don't seem like the way he'd take control of a city. He'd probably try politics or mind control first.

That's it. That's the proof that he didn't do most of it, if not any of it, and that him taking the blame might be a cover up. We can't be sure, though.

This got pretty long, sorry.

Thoughts?

#nevermoor #ezra squall #nevermoor theories

[magicalgirlforhire153]

Theory

In Hollowpox. It’s said that president Wintersea and prime minister were talking via gossamer line. But Jupiter said back in book 1 that gossamer line is incredibly dangerous toward non Wundersmith user. I doubt Maud would risked herself in that kind of situation so either

1.Ezra was there to escort her. But maybe he wished to not shown himself. Just silently listened at the side. (Like Morrigan and Jupiter using it together.)

2. She’s a Wundersmith.

#nevermoor #nevermoor theories #nevermoor series #wundersmith #hollowpox

[cadence-blackburn-for-queen]

if anyone have any theories about fen's backstory, i really would like to hear them. i need more of this giant cat in my life

#fenestra nevermoor #nevermoor #wundersmith #hollowpox #silverborn #jessica townsend #nevermoor theories

[wundrousarts]

The Wintersea Republic and the Free State: Different Age lengths?

I was going to save this until my Hollowpox reread post, but I’ve hit a snag in my eternal reread and now I don’t know when I’ll share that. This is something I noticed that I didn’t fully realize before. This is specifically about post-Massacre Ages. Pre-Massacre stuff is still currently a Wild West of unknowns.

The Wintersea Republic seems to have consistently had 10-12 year Ages since it was formed. This lines up with the amount of Ages it has had and how long it’s been around for. This consistency is also how Squall establishes the “curse.”

I had always assumed that Ages were consistent among the Realm, so that Nevermoor has also been experiencing these same Age lengths for the same amount of time. This is because at the beginning of the first book we see that their Morningtides align. This is where my theory about Wundersmith deaths or Wunder irregularities causing Eventides at the end of years comes from, because it seems likely that that’s what triggered this Eventide and likely all the ones related to the “curse”.

However, in ch2 of Hollowpox, Jupiter says the following:

“Golders Night,” Holliday echoed, and her expression grew thoughtful. She tapped a finger against her mouth. “There’s a thought… what’s it been, twelve years since the last one?” “Fourteen, I believe,” said Jupiter. “Spring of Seventeen in the Age of Poets. ”

So, 14 years ago, Nevermoor was in the midst of an Age that was at least 17 years long? Now I'm less sure what triggers Eventides/new Ages, especially in the Free State...

I find it unlikely that the Republic also experienced this same 17 year Age, as the fairly consistent Ages seems to be how Squall establishes the Eventide Curse... HOWEVER..... Morrigan turns 13 in Hollowpox... so this would have been the Age before her, and it might've actually been more like 18 (or 19? I'm bad at math) years long? Maybe Squall did something new the Age before Mog, like tried to take on an apprentice or two before her, or carry out some plan (or study?) with the other cursed children. The abnormally long Age could be balanced out by some of the earlier Ages in the lifespan of the Wintersea Republic being considerably short in comparison.

I would love to hear anyone's own thoughts on this! It's something I realized and now am trying to figure out how it fits with everything because I never really thought about it before.

#nevermoor #nevermoor theory #if I'm missing or forgetting about or etc etc any notable facts or details please let me know. it happens sometimes lol #my eternal reread is on hold bc my Apple Books app updated when my phone did and it’s ugly and unreadable now!!!!! horrible!!!!!!!!!! #anyways. enjoy this. I honestly think I need to wait for more info before I post other theories I mentioned #bc I think I sorta jumped the gun w the eventide one and didn’t think abt details like this so now I only rly believe in like half of it….. #the thing is that octopuschair of wiki fame always mentioned this and bc I never rly reread hollowpox I just assumed it was one of + #+ the past ages like in a ghostly hour. oops lmaooo. #this also throws a little bit of a wrench into my calendar project

[soulsofthedead]

so i have read all of the nevermoor books a good 6 times in the last year or so( yes its my comfort series shush-), and i desperately neeed y'alls theories on what the safeguard pact does? why do they all seem so weird about using it? other nevermoor theories in general is welcome btwww- i love this series so much

#nevermoor #morrigan crow #mogtober2023 #jupiter north #what the hell is the safe guard pact? #what does it do? #headcanon #theories #gimme all y'alls theories #im begging

[givemogahug]

Ok, so you know how in the sing that mog sings to call wonder it mentions a child born on eventide as "daughter of night", obviously talking about morrigan.

It also mentions a "son of the morning" referring to a child born on morningtide. What if there is a boy somewhere in the world who was born on morningtide.

And he also has 'powers' of somesort like mog but not the exact same.

Not sure just a theory

#Merry mog-mas🎄 #nevermoor #morrigan crow #theory #nevermoor theory

[necromancers-incorporated]

Silverborn theories/hopes:

Mog's mum! I have a gut feeling she is connected to Ezra somehow but I have no idea how yet

I really want to see more of the rest of the unit, like the way we had all the shenanigans in Wundersmith and look into their dynamics more (*coughcough* archtthorne *coughcough*)

Ezra backstory! Tell me what happened please for the love of God what made him change. I don't want him redeeming I just want the motives

More of the rest of the Deucalion staff and the history of the Deucalion

Theory that Ezra created the Deucalion based solely off of that one conversation right at the beginning of the first book

Need a Cadence backstory NOW

More of Marina and Ros pls they are so cute

MORE ROOK

Want to know the marital status of the other Misstresses like did they choose those titles or like what is going on there

All for now I'm so excited for the book

#nevermoor #silverborn #nevermoor: the trials of morrigan crow #trials of morrigan crow #morrigan crow #wundersmith #hollowpox #silverborn theories

[raspberry-gloaming]

I very much doubt there's much chance of this, but is there anyone out there who is a fan of both Doctor Who (and especially/possibly the Gallifrey audios) and the Nevermoor series? As I have many au thoughts but no-one to share/discuss them with.

(if you are please message me)

#it's a doctor who/gallifrey in the wundrous society setting #from a range of points in the timeline #uh possibly involving timeless child too #my current plot related thoughts are on a range of characters' experiences as tweens/teens as scholars at wunsoc #and also putting some of the plot of Gallifrey onto the setting #wundersmiths? but overtime wundersmiths became like the current present day/before squall type thingy #the TTC bit involves the doctor being like. Thee Original Wundersmith/proto-wundersmith that Gallifrey's founders used to become? #the doctor s12 era thought themself to be someone with an Arcane knack linked to Tempus #because power binding and like turning them baby style by other wundersmiths blah blah #the master is also an Arcane scholar #and him in the s12 era rides on the theory of arcane knacks being linked at some level to the wunderous arts being correct #uh on other thoughts all but one of the deca are/were in the Doctor's unit #rip Jelpax you weren't relevant or war-criminally enough for the 9 person limit #uh and the Doctor is Definitely Ace's patron #and I'm pretty sure it's obvious what her knack is #doctor who #dw #gallifrey #the timeless child #the doctor #gallifrey audios #au #alternate universe #whoniverse #Nevermoor #the trials of morrigan crow #crossover #morrigan crow #other stuff Romana is an elder #Brax was Romana (and Sartia) 's Conductor

[winwin17]

Fellow Nevermoor fans and mutuals, please surround me with all the comfort you can offer, because I've had this terrible thought - what if Jupiter gets his knack stolen and isn't a Witness anymore?? 😭😭 Idk how that all works, but apparently knack stealing has happened. And I was thinking about how Jupiter seems to have a lot of plot armor - meaning nothing bad ever happens to him, basically because he's a main Good Guy and so far the plot has kept him safe - but what if....what if....??? I have a feeling things are really about to heat up in this series, and I am scaaaaarredd for him!! And I'm honestly scared, because remember that time when he was talking to Morrigan about the Hollowpox? And he said he thinks he'd rather be dead than hollow? And Morrigan thinks of how sad and depressed he'd be without his knack? I sure hope that wasn't foreshadowing....

Help, this is destroying meeeee!! 😭

#trembling and weeping on the inside #like no jess dont do this to us plzzz! #altho i have a slight hope that if it does happen it wont be permanent #because the good guys always win #but aaaghh this is destroying me! #jupiter north #nevermoor #nevermoor theories

[thisblogdoesnotexisg]

us when the book is postponed again

#jessica i still love you #it’s nothing to do with you #we just can’t really handle this #because the hype took over #nevermoor #hollowpox #wundersmith #morrigan crow #silverborn #nevermoor fandom #sorry i’m not responding i’m patching my broken heart with theories for nevermoor and silverborn snippets <3

[worldsunlikemyown]

What if Morrigan's Wundersmith training doesn't take place in the Unnamed Realm at all?

If his words are to be believed, Squall created the Gossamer Line (pretty likely). Which means he is good at making revolutionary things, and probably a pioneer in inter-realm exploration. I think there are two ways it could go:

Squall could make a space where time moves more slowly - like a pocket realm or something. So Mog might wake up at midnight, go to this place and have a six-hour lesson, but only two hours have passed in Nevermoor, which would be less suspicious and better for her sleep schedule.

So you know how Jess said that we're going to have many new characters in Silverborn? It might be because Morrigan will do her lessons in a different realm. It's practical and makes lessons easier because both she and Squall will be able to be there physically, and Mog wouldn't feel like she was in too much danger because it's pretty clear to her that Squall doesn't want to kill her at present. And they would have to deal with all kinds of different people and introduce new characters that way. But going and coming from realms would be difficult, and barring changed speeds of time, much likelier to disrupt Mog's sleep schedule, and that could be used as a clue for Jupiter to find out about the apprenticeship (he's an inter-realm explorer, so he also knows what a gate to another realm looks like).

I can't decide which one is more likely, because I like the second one more for plot, but the first one is more convenient in-universe and feels like something Ezra might think of - subtle and convenient, least likely to give it all away.

Anyone have other theories about this?

#silverborn #silverborn theories #ezra squall #morrigan crow #nevermoor #nevermoorian musings

[magicalgirlforhire153]

I just want to point it out that Maud is a shorter, more simplified version of Matilda or Mathilde (Like how Morrigan short version is mog). And Lowry does sound similar to Lachance.

#nevermoor #nevermoor theories #hollowpox #Like I know there are theories that elodie being president Wintersea #But are you sure plot point as big as Museum of Stolen Moments won’t come back? #president Wintersea #maud Lowry

[cadence-blackburn-for-queen]

published my squall theory for nevermoor tumblr. regret it it was the worst

#nevermoor #ezra squall #nevermoor theories #sorry so sorry #morrigan crow the wundersmiths #morrigan crow #wundersmith #hollowpox #silverborn