#no that dude's a straight queer

[spookieloop]

You know, it's kind of baffling to me when people insist that THEIR Durge would never have so much as liked Gortash, romantically or otherwise.

Even without the new lines, The Prayer for Forgiveness has always been there, proving that, at the very least, The Dark Urge admired Gortash so much that it caused a crisis of faith.

A crisis of faith in Bhaal's own child literally carved from his gore, made specifically to be Bhaal's perfect child.

This has all been said before, but The Dark Urge is an ORIGIN character (and being able to change their appearance makes SENSE, when you consider the propensity of shapeshifters in Bhaalist lore. Literally the form you choose for Durge is just the form Bhaal chose).

Claiming "My Durge would have never liked Gortash" is like saying "My Gale never liked Mystra," or "My Wyll would have never signed a contract with Mizora," or even "My Karlach would have never worked for Gortash."

Maybe your TAV wouldn't have ever done those things, but Origin characters have solidified backstories. Even if your Durge is a COMPLETELY DIFFERENT person post-tadpole, the facts of who they were BEFORE the events of the game are as in-game factual as Gale's past relationship with Mystra, Wyll's contract with Mizora, or Lae'zel's upbringing with the Gith.

If you want to headcanon something else for your playthrough, cool, but insisting that events that are CANON cannot be interpreted in a way that you don't enjoy doesn't make sense.

#the dark urge #durgetash #GOREtash #I'm not going to actually be having any arguments about this btw so don't expect an answer #I just wanted to post my perspective on it #Because it hit me in the shower how fucking weird it is #Like the straight dudes crying that their Durge wouldn't fuck Gortash #like??? That's like saying “My Astarion never fucked dudes” #Don't play the queer game if you don't want queer characters???

[chirpsythismorning]

I just remembered they devoted a whole scene to Mike and Will burying a dead body for no reason other than to poke fun at—

#byler #they said cliche gay tropes #we raise you mocking those tropes subtly through the plot #like did they really need to devote a whole scene to burying a dead body? #they could have left dude laying anywhere #could’ve just stored him in one of the trunks in the junkyard #it wouldn’t have made any difference #fucking argyle joked about just writing their names on the makeshift gravestone #the scene was treated like a joke instead of them seriously needing to bury the body for safety reasons #it was a way to joke about how many viewers think Will is going to die #and follow the same trope every gay main character in mainstream media has before #where YAY they give us a gay character and get some brownie points from queer fans #only to kill the character off to appease the homophobes who make up the majority and would rather not have to actually watch a queer story #and the duffers are essentially saying #lmaooooo fuck that #and having it be both Mike and Will most prominently in this scene… #another fuck you to those saying that this love story is unrequited like every other story before it #they’re laughing at y’all!!! #y’all as in ppl that are predicting the most cliche ending to the story #like do you think they would poke fun at a trope that favors straight characters over gay ones… #only have a storyline that does just that? #the correct answer is no

[thejakeformerlyknownasprince]

thank you for all the recent jake/tobias posting, it's started me really thinking abt them for the first time! if i can contribute a thought, i'm actually loving the idea of tobias crushing on jake in the first book, and then getting "let down" by him, getting over it, and taking a hard pivot into being critical of him BECAUSE he has that history...i've definitely had the experience of being WAY more critical of people that i had crushes on (and maybe still have a little bit of the remnants of those feelings), because their flaws hurt more bc i used to look up to them so hard, and i'm paying more attention to them to start with, and maybe a little bit of trying to prove to myself that i'm over them...fun dynamic! thanks for planting the seed of this thought!

Yeah, I can definitely see that read! To be honest I like that better than shipping them outright. It fits the characters, and it makes sense with Tobias as a person. I wouldn't write it, but that's a me problem.

TBH Jake/Tobias is on the short list of Animorphs pairings I actively don't ship. For reasons that have less to do with either character, more to do with personal peeves. I get a bee in my bonnet about fandoms fixating on and shipping the only two straight white dudes in a diverse cast of characters. (Teen Wolf and Sterek dominance is the Ur-example, of course. But new Star Wars + Klux or Marvel comics + Stony are clear runners-up.)

So I think if I didn't have mental baggage from those other fandoms, I'd be more able to give Jake/Tobias a fair shake as a ship. But as it is, they give me strong NOPE feelings for reasons that aren't to do with either of them as characters.

#animorphs #fandom #jake/tobias #jake berenson #tobias fangor #shipping #teen wolf and voltron legendary defender have excellent canon queer rep that the fandoms straight-up ignore #in favor of fanning about the conventionally attractive dudes with conventional masculinity #siiiiiiigh

[highfunctioningfleshrule63]

hey, your video compilation of 4chan post about shield is a great ressource for fandom psychology. Interesting to see another user who lurk the wrestling board and use tumblr. Did you ever work on compilation of the tumblr fandom during the peak of the shield era ? I did not research it yet. xoxo

glad someone liked that video, only in times when im super fixated on something will i end up searching through the 4chan archives for more content...unfortunately 4chan vernacular tends to get a laugh out of me (if it isnt absolute lowtier content, had to scrape through a lot of that). the shield stuff i tried to get from when it was at its peak and you'll see posts on there from 2013+, but i also got modern stuff now bc the boardspeak actually changed with it.

ironically it is way easier to deepdive and compile stuff from 4chan bc it has a much better archival system than tumblr; ive also looked for lots of old stuff on deviantart due to the crossover but i found that it has a pretty shitty way of archiving/sorting older posts (just like on here. ive been on tumblr since 13 so i know what sorts of areas to look for, but its still very hard to find it directly on here. i havent spent as much time as i did getting those posts for that video so i can try harder.)

fandom psychology is interesting to me too so im happy you saw my video with that angle. ive collected lots of old shield fangirl content off of sites like weheartit and pinterest (ironically those are often better at keeping images up for longer periods of time) too but i didnt know if i should make a comp, maybe i will. i also looked through random forums and places like lolcow dot farms (which only really granted one of the screenshots...not too much discussion over there for good or bad. i was hoping to find discussion abt shieldfangirls or wrestling rpf but surprisingly they didnt think to make a "point and laugh" thread abt those topics). i find it interesting how much shieldrelated psychosis was on both sides of the spectrum (tumblr vs 4chan)....i could talk more on it but im a little brainless and sleep deprived rn

heres some extras i had that didnt make the cut (plus just some of my favorites):

and these were from a thread talking abt the modern stereotypical tumblr wrestling fan (specifically talking abt aedubs young bucks fans/the elite fans)

(*fangirl in this is a term im using loosely of course)

#surprisingly there is actually LESS shield blingees than dx or cm punk blingees. that at least i could find. theres a large number of #desktop background edits from deviantart and content like the fanfic edits/“outfits i would wear to meet the shield”/ogflowercrown phone bg #collages. and the like. i could compile all this shit i just didnt think it mattered to anyone LOL #sorry for the long post everyone #the most interesting thing abt the shields hayday and eventual fall on 4chan was 1) how many guys unironically loved seth up until he #“turned shoot faggot”/or the first knee injury. he was a fan favorite on there even with the contrarian posters saying otherwise (most of #4chan is just being. the contrarian so that tracks). and 2) the huge divide between guys who hated ambrose (usually bc he was over with #female fans...theres still that divide with how straight men dont understand favs among women. also goes along w my noted difference in fav #among queer men/women etc etc - but they would mask this by saying they hated that he was a jobber (true) or his inring technique was slopp #) and guys who adored ambrose bc he was a promo guy...they loved his early promos/“he just like me fr”.. (and a large grouping of dudes who #would call him cute). i dunno just stuff i noticed #also. obviously a lotta mox hate due to dickriding cornette #the shields peak is interesting to me so i might continue to compile more shit like this when i get the time. i have the shield dvds too #and wanted to do a LONG journey of p1rat1n6 all their scenes off of pcock while i still have my sub. but it would take a while #also. love ur acc bc i too enjoy thinkin abt the fem versions of dude wrestlers #fleshclipstag #tactical-asks

[shojoboy]

Being Bisexual is sooo cool we can be any gender and be attracted to any gender any amount, we lovvvvve women and nonbinary people and men and even if we only ever date or fuck one of those we are still Bisexual. We aren't "half straight, half gay", because that's not how sexuality works. Sometimes it feels like we don't have our own community but tbh that's because, the Gay community? We in there. The Lesbian community? We in there. Trans community??? We in there!!!!!!!!!!!! Yippee!!!!!

#bisexual #happy pride month i figured i get to make at least one bi post #as a bi person i still feel very shunted to the side sometimes lol #like it still feels...esp for women (because patriarchy world) that sayong your bi means you're saying that you like Men the most lol #altho on the reverse i think plenty of bi men r also treated like staright dudes ''trying to be cool'' which has it;s own origins #and also like. if ur lesbian or gay that comes with a Community and a history and everything and being Bi is like. oh you're there too lol? #even tho Bi people have ALWAYS been in both the Gay and Lesbian communities! it's just more obvious nowadays because in the past... #being openly ANYTHING was hard and obviously it was easier for cis bisexuals to like. pretend to be straight. or if they couldnt... #they could pretend to be gay or lesbian! like we had to be somewhere #and not everybody has the strength and fortitude to b openly Bi when both straights and queers will give you shit for it #anyway. #everything Gay or Lesbian is also Bi you are not missing out by being Bisexual. you can call yourself butch and femme you #can be a bear or a twink you can worship femininity worship masculinity do drag go to lesbian bars ETC #and to the youngsters who feel like they have to call themselves Pansexual because they r nonbinary or date trans people: you do not #Bi people are ALSO in the trans community! WE'RE EVERYWHERE #BI WORLD NO ESCAPE #YIPPEEEE!!!!!!!!!!! #-_- #pol

[verycharismaticdragon]

also re: this i didnt find a nice way to say it so im keeping it to my blog but like. actually thai edition Binghe is drawn both tall and broad-shouldered 😭

behold, a twink accORDING TO SOME PPL APPARENTLY

#also like 'i want that twink obliterated' meme is reliably funny if its obliterated(sexual way). #it May be funny with obliterated(violence) if its about a straight dude but watch out one prsn's str8 dude is another prsn's transbian #but if you are using it as obliterated(violence) towards canonically queer man? thats just homophobia baby

[chibi-scone]

So that new Rhys Darby interview about s3 ….💀

#SO FUNNY #straight up saying that stede would be unhappy with the inn and leave Ed’s ass to go back to the crew ….y’all were so back #that the inn is a fantasy not meant to last and the British would be after their ass #like Ik djenks already said that the inn wouldn’t last but #put next to him also saying. that the inn is meant to be a happy ending + taika saying Ed and stedes ending is good #and he wants to leave it there #girl ….. #just genuinely so funny #that s3 could go full historically accurate and kill both of them at the end #like I don’t even care anymore dude just do it #after how shitty their fans made us feel for being upset about Izzy #I would feel so fucking vindicated #no guys don’t you get it it’s a good ending for them :)) and it’s not bad gay rep to kill your main gay couple #because there’s other queer couples in the show!! stop crying you media illiterate babies they’re pirates pirates die :))) #I can taste it already #this is gonna be tbd cause wtv I just wanted to shoot the shit a little about it uh yeah #ofmd critical #honestly if they kill Ed and stede at the end of s3 that might just be what gets me back into the show a little #like I don’t really want to rewatch the show at this point but if it all goes down the gutter in the end ? #that’s different #it’s like ordering food and being served mouldy garbage vs willingly jumping into a dumpster #everytime a new interview or smtg comes out I’m like 🫣 #it’s reaching spn levels of ‘what now’

[skullhaver]

genuinely has somebody made a video essay about the phenomenon of queer women enjoying fictional mlm?

sarah z gets close to this topic on multiple occasions. natalie wynn talked about it in her latest tangent and brought up some good points on identification and desire, but i still feel like it could be examined in a larger way. ppl complain about straight women fetishisizing mlm, which does occasionally happen, but in my experience the vast majority of non-dude slash enjoyers are queer women who on some level identify with one or both of the men in the relationship. over and over when people survey fan-centric sites like AO3 and Tumblr, they find that the vast majority of users are queer women.

#plus many nb people who like fictional mlm because it portrays relationships without (or with less strict) gender roles and expectations #anecdotally i would say the vast majority of non-dude slash enjoyers are bisexual/pansexual women #followed by bisexual/pansexual nonbinary people #and then honestly more than a handful of lesbians!! #and only after that followed by straight women #this might be because i know very very few straight people but still #i really think there's something to be said about people seeing themselves in broadly queer stories #plus not enjoying romantic fantasy with certain kinds of gender expectations #maybe due to inability to identify with women as people - maybe due to a lot of female characters being badly written #maybe because of legitimate discomfort with the bad parts of being a woman (esp in historical or misogynist fantasy settings)

[healingheartdogs]

Men can have vaginas. Women can have penises. Being a lesbian is not about "only liking pussy". Being gay is not about "only liking dick". Those are transphobic and intersex exclusive statements.

The "sex" in "sexuality" is not referring to assigned sex at birth or the most common presentations of assigned sex genitalia. It refers to sexual attraction. Queer sexual attraction is gender and/or shared queer experience based. Gender is not the same as assigned sex at birth or genitalia. If your personal sexual attraction is based on assigned sex at birth and specific genitalia and you use a queer sexuality label you are appropriating that label and participating not only in transphobia and intersex exclusion from queer communities but also in homophobia.

Stop appropriating queer sexualities and then trying to kick out people who actually belong under that label because you want to make a little exclusion based bigot club for yourselves.

#lgbtq #lgbtqia #rant #not dog related #ndr #im so sick of seeing comments on trans people's posts being like #'well id never date a trans woman because i only like pussy' #okay? you dont know what trans womens' genitals look like to begin with stop assuming they're all the same and all disgusting to you #and dont call yourself a lesbian then because lesbians have queer attraction to non-men not just attraction only to vaginas #also way to boil being a lesbian down to being only about wanting to have sex with certain genitals #like inherent sexualization of queerness is straight out of the homophobe playbook dude #and youre also boiling womanhood down to only being about vaginas too saying shit like that which is sexist as fuck #you literally cant be transphobic like that without also being sexist and homophobic #the same applies for the opposite scenario with gay people and trans men #and with nonbinary people who fall under either sexuality #if youre not actually queer stop appropriating queer labels to justify and enact transphobia and intersex hate

[shedontlovehuhself]

Touching grass isn't enough. Y'all need fucking therapy.

That post is what happens when you only live on tumblr and your happiness is contingent on Jensen being secretly bi and in love with Misha.

Y'all really turned Misha being an ally and being their for destiel fans as him being homophobic towards poor bi Jensen?? The mental gymnastics is beyond out of this world.

Like I'm sorry your fave has a known long history of being very weird about destiel and bi Dean. He still hasn't acknowledged or said Cas is queer. While Misha was putting his foot down about queer Cas and destiel, your "poor closeted bi" fave said Cas' confession is open to interpretation and calls them brothers while saying "people will try and sexualize it" regarding Cas and Dean's relationship meaning he doesn't want people sexualizing it(cause queer automatically means sexual in his head). And let's talk about the frat boy gay jokes towards Misha over the years. when Misha first came to spn jensen thought he was strange and made fun of him. Or the bts joke about "where's the gay angel?" Or putting on a fake "gay" voice for Misha at that one jib. That's Y'ALL'S fave. To see people twist what Misha has done over the years for destiel and queer fans into him being homophobic towards Jensen is sad.

#what's truly sad is those posts in the screenshots were made by grown adults #yall really posting like that at your big ages? #misha collins #Castiel #supernatural #Jensen Ackles #cockles stans yall need help. #seriously #jenmish #njcon 2023 #sorry you stan a straight dude it is what it is #so do i #but your fave jackles is still weird about queerness touching his character #dean winchester #castiel

[lorephobic]

sooo glad the “barry is too straight to be gay but too gay to be straight” discourse is starting. finally. really desperately needed the keyboard warriors to save me from this man wearing makeup who’s invading my safe spaces (blood filled bathtubs, grave dirt beds, etc.)

#twitters reaction to this shoot has made me wish that emerald had shot me instead. in the head. with a gun. #yall are all about inclusive spaces until a dude that u think is straight puts on eyeliner and. gloves. i guess. #and then all of the sudden theres no space left in the queer community and actually he should probably like not. take inspiration from us #or pretend to be one of us #or even look in our general direction really #idk it just seems kind of appropriative for him to be wearing makeup like that #doesnt he know that only fags do that? #our culture is not ur costume? #stay in ur lane??

[musclesandhammering]

Real queerbaiting almost always has to do with an individual character’s identity rather than any romantic pairings but y’all aren’t ready to have that conversation.

#‘this show is such queerbait!’ *proceeds to talk about how two dudes didn’t kiss each other* #more often than not it’s 2 dudes the creators have said multiple times do not have romantic feelings for eachother #yet the fans always outright ignore that and act like they’ve been tricked & deceived #when like… no.. they straight up told you this gay ship wasn’t happening #& you just refused to believe them lmao #now if you wanna say ‘this was a missed opportunity to have a queer ship in this show’ then 90% of the time I’ll agree w you! #but there’s a massive difference between #‘I think this would’ve been a good chance to have a queer pairing & im bummed they didn’t take it’ #and #‘I was intentionally queerbaited & these writers hate gay people’ #and most of you guys are just. Unable to understand that #for example: #lokius not being canon was not qb #them butchering Loki’s genderfluidity & not acknowledging his bisexuality after specifically using it in their advertising? #that absolutely was. #destiel wasn’t qb #a missed opportunity to explore angels’ gender & sexuality? yes 100%. #johnlock wasn’t qb. #a missed opportunity to explore Sherlock’s sexuality? Definitely #yall get on my nerves screaming queerbait & crucifying creators as homophobes #just because your shitty no-chemistry-having toxic ass mlm ships didn’t go canon #after you delulu-ed & conspiracy theory-ed yourselves into thinking they would 😒 #queerbaiting #fandom wank #anti destiel #anti johnlock #Loki #homophobia in fandom #johnlock #destiel

[designernishiki]

brings me great joy to remember the fact that (aside from serena) the main bar kiryu frequents is a queer bar hosted by drag queens and run by a trans lady. like legit that fact sounds too good to be canon but it literally is

#the main one he frequents by personal choice anyway as opposed to serena (and sometimes shellac) where he’s usually there because someone #else frequents it or needed to meet him somewhere or someone working there is connected to him etc #earth angel initially doesnt really have any predisposed big plot reasons for him to go there let alone recurrently for decades #he just. likes it. and likes ako’s company. and they never really explain anything further than that #honestly it screams repressed gay guy seeking community without knowing it to me. like as in: he’s more comfortable there than most bars and #knows that probably but doesn’t know why or doesn’t try to think too deeply into exactly why #I mean… he says to goromi he feels more comfortable talking to her/him than most women #so I mean. that tracks doesn’t it. #you could argue it’s has to do with him being incessantly hit on by straight women to an uncomfortable degree but I don’t really think #that explains it becuase he’s hit on/flirted with by queer folks as well- ako herself outwardly flirts with him #but of course never to that uncomfortable a degree in my opinion (especially considering he already knows her and whatnot most of the time) #but yeah so I think it’s a little deeper than that. #anyway gshgdshfh rambling. this is just. god I seriously wonder sometimes what the studio is thinking when they do these things #the combination of this + what he says/does with goromi??? ghagghgsggh how do you NOT read him as queer/mlm what the fuck dude #kiryu #yakuza #rambling

[feralsteddie]

trans!Steve who figured out pretty early on in his life the whole gender situation, but still didn’t realise you could be bisexual

#steve harrington #trans steve harrington #it would be so in character listen #baby queers can be a little stupid okay #Steve ‘tragic that I’m a straight boy now I’d love to kiss dudes 😔’ #Robin ‘hey dingus you wanna run that by me one more time’ #pyreposting

[itsmesheep]

*beating you with hammers* SOMETIMES 🔨 THINGS 🔨 THAT 🔨 ARE 🔨 HOMOEROTIC 🔨 ARE 🔨 INTENTIONAL 🔨🔨🔨

#i think the issue is you guys are 'no true scotsman'-ing queer art #'REAL queer art could never be misogynist or otherwise offensive or even just distasteful to me personally #so it's just a bunch of straight dudes hating women so much they accidentally make something that looks gay. obviously' #sometimes gay men are misogynist and you would know that if you went to a gay bar in real life #sometimes gay people and the gay art they make is messy and imperfect #there's a whole lot of media this applies to but i don't want to start that much discourse #but this was prompted by seeing a tumblr post calling mgs 'accidentally queer' #and not five minutes later opening twitter to see unambiguous otasune ship art rtd by kojima himself

[all-or-nothing-baby]

when people say "why do they have to make all the characters on my tv queer these days?" what they are really saying is, "why do they have to make characters on my tv queer these days?

#THE VAST MAJORITY OF TV CHARACTERS ARE STRAIGHT BY S COUNTRY FUCKING MILE MY DUDE #and that is absolutely not the case in the real world fucknut #le sigh #queer #queer characters #queer media #AND REALITY HAPPENS TO BE A THING #lol #lgbtqia+ #gay #lesbian #bisexual #pansexual #asexual #and all the other beautiful colours of the rainbow 🌈 #🏳️‍🌈 #let's finally even this shit out yeah? #tv #tv shows #media #movies #etc #buddie #and specifically what oliver stark said about this #cw homophobia #cassidy rants