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bbygirl-obi · 8 months
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"the jedi don't have therapists-"
jedi philosophy, and in particular the practices and teachings that jedi were expected to implement in their everyday lives, was therapy. dialectical behavior therapy (dbt), to be exact. anyone who's familiar with dbt knows where i'm already going with this, but like genuinely look up the basic tenets of dbt and it's identical with what the jedi were doing.
dbt, to put it simply, is a specific therapy technique that was designed for ptsd and past trauma. it's pretty different from traditional talk therapy. it combines a few different environments (individual, group, etc.), recognizing that no single format of treatment can stand alone.
the key focuses of dbt include:
emotional regulation- understanding, being more aware of, and having more control over your emotions
mindfulness- regulating attention and avoiding anxious fixation on the past or future
interpersonal effectiveness- navigating interpersonal situations
distress tolerance- tolerating distress and crises without spiraling and catastrophizing
i'm sure it's already clear from that list alone how much the jedi teachings correspond with the goals of dbt. the jedi value, teach, and practice the following:
identifying and understanding emotions
mindfulness and living in the present
compassion, diplomacy, and conflict resolution (on interpersonal scales, not just planetary or galactic)
accepting and tolerating certain levels of distress or discomfort (particularly mental, such as discomfort at the thought of losing a loved one to death)
idk man seems almost as if jedi mental health practices and dbt are two sides of a completely identical coin. (fun fact: both star wars and dbt are products of the 70s.)
and guess what? dbt was specifically designed as a treatment for borderline personality disorder. remember that one? or, if you don't, maybe you remember a specific character, the one who was literally used as an example by my professor in my undergrad psych class when she was teaching us about bpd?
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tldr: simply existing within the jedi community, practicing jedi teachings, surrounded by a support network of other jedi of all life stages, was the therapy for anakin. even when viewed through a modern lens. it was even, more specifically, the precise type of therapy that has developed in modern times to treat the exact types of mental issues he was struggling with.
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kanansdume · 3 months
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Andor is honestly one of the only pieces of more mainstream Star Wars media (so none of the little comics and very very few of the novels) I've seen since the Prequels that REALLY encapsulates the themes of non-attachment and everything that means in the way George Lucas truly intended. The only other thing I've seen that is its equal is the Obi-Wan Kenobi show.
And this makes me want to discuss Timm Karlo.
Yeah, Timm, the character everybody remembers most from Andor right?
That's what I thought.
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This is Timm. He was Bix's boyfriend in the first three episodes of Andor. He seems to be pretty normal but he gets jealous when Cassian shows up because Cassian and Bix used to date and he can tell the two of them are cooking up some kind of secret together that he's not involved in. He decides to cover up his jealousy with fear for Bix's safety because Cassian is clearly in some kind of trouble and eventually ends up ratting Cassian out to PreMor security behind Bix's back. This results in PreMor invading Ferrix and getting Bix captured and beaten. Timm himself is murdered when he tries to help Bix.
All we ever get to see of Timm is that he's an insecure little asshole whose actions nearly get Cassian and Bix killed. He's an antagonist in this story.
But Bix loved him. He seems like a fairly average dude before this and presumably treats Bix fairly well outside of this particular incident. He's not a villain, he's just... a dude who lets fear of losing the woman he loves consume him to the point of making a REALLY stupid choice and it costs him everything. But that choice turns him INTO a villain for Cassian. Cassian will now always remember Timm as the man who betrayed him and wanted him dead. Cassian will always remember Timm by the selfishness of his final choice. That's the legacy Timm leaves behind in the end. Bix mourns him, but even Bix recognizes that Timm fucked up and nearly cost herself and Cassian their lives.
And if any of that sounds kind-of familiar, it's because it should. It's Anakin. Timm makes the Anakin choice. He wasn't a villain by default. He wasn't a villain his entire life. He was a normal dude who made one really awful choice out of fear and it ended up being the choice that defined him. He had the capacity for both good and bad in him and he chose to act on the bad and it was the last choice he ever made.
And this choice is what really screws up Ferrix, it calls down PreMor security on them which is what causes the massive screw-up when they try to capture Cassian and Luthen and that gains the attention of the ISB agent in charge of Ferrix as well as Dedra Meero who ultimately brings an entire battalion of stormtroopers and officers to occupy Ferrix. Ferrix gets far far worse as a result of Timm's one choice made out of insecurity in his relationship.
But it also ultimately leads to Ferrix realizing that enough is enough and they rise up and riot and throw the Empire out of their home. It helps push Maarva into joining a rebellion at the end of her life and making that recording that inspires the people to fight back. Maarva says that the Empire has been creeping in like a disease while they slept. And if Timm hadn't made the choice that took their situation from tolerable to intolerable, maybe Maarva and the people of Ferrix never would've bothered to fight back. If Cassian had been able to just silently slip out of town with no one being the wiser, Ferrix would've just kept going on as it had been.
None of this means Timm gets to claim credit for Ferrix and Maarva's own choices, obviously, but much like Anakin, the selfish choices he makes lead to unintended good things happening down the line, too. Anakin's selfishness leads to his relationship with Padme which ultimately creates Luke and Leia who, together, are the ones that manage to bring down the Empire for good. Anakin doesn't get any credit for how Luke and Leia turned out obviously, or the things they do that cause the Empire to fall, but they wouldn't have existed without Anakin's selfishness.
Timm's choice makes Ferrix worse, it calls down the Empire, but it also leads to the push that ultimately pushes Ferrix into rebellion.
Timm makes Anakin's choice. He's the villain of Cassian's story, but he is not WHOLLY a villain because Andor tells us that no one is ever JUST a villain or JUST a hero. People will always be people and that means they all have the capacity for both selfishness and selflessness within them. Timm loses himself to his fear for just long enough to destroy everything he cared about. Maarva chooses to stand up rather than run. Bix chooses to persevere in the face of impossible odds. Luthen gives up his morals to try to create a future for the rest of the galaxy. Mon Mothma sells her family for democracy. Cassian has to give up his dream of a normal happy life and settle for taking control of his own life.
And this is what makes Andor one of the best pieces of Star Wars media I've seen in a LONG time. It doesn't have any Jedi in it, it doesn't have any Mandalorian super soldiers, it doesn't have any Sith or Inquisitors or witches. It's just a group of people from different walks of life all having to figure out what matters most to them in the end. Some of them make the selfish choice and some of them rise above and make the selfless choice. It takes all of the themes that we've gotten from Star Wars via the Jedi and Sith conflicts and applies them to the little people, too. It's not JUST the Jedi and Sith who have to abide by those thematic narrative rules. Everybody else does, too, actually. Timm would never have become a Sith because of his choices, Dedra Meero and Syril Karn are never going to be Sith, but they can still become villains in someone else's story everything they claimed to care about can come crashing down as the result of one selfish choice.
THAT'S Star Wars. THAT'S what it's all about. THAT'S why Andor feels like Star Wars should to me without a single Force user showing up while something like the Ahsoka show feels like the opposite of a Star Wars story despite all of its fan service and nostalgia bait. Andor gets it. Andor took the time to understand the core of Star Wars even when telling a Star Wars story in a very different way.
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lazyyogi · 11 months
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Many spiritual teachings talk about detachment or non-attachment and it’s often difficult for the western mind to grasp the essential meaning. At best it seems dull and at worst it sounds numb, uncaring, or unfeeling.
So I have a fix for you:
Whenever detachment or non-attachment is mentioned, think of transparency.
Imagine your whole body and being to be like a perfectly clear, transparent crystal. Whatever light shines on that crystal will illuminate it in its entirety.
But all of that light will exit the crystal just as smoothly as it had entered. None of the light gets stuck or attached within the crystal.
In our living moment of human life, to be detached or non-attached means that we allow everything to strike us as it is. Our whole experience, whatever it may be right now, is nakedly illuminated. But just as it flows in, it also flows out.
Call it non-stickiness or non-attachment or transparency. It doesn’t matter. What matters is that you receive this teaching and write it upon your heart and the surfaces of your mind.
It is a fundamental point to embody if you wish to be peaceful, happy, and free—and to remain that way!
LY
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soulinkpoetry · 7 months
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I now realize that “Non-attachment” is the only way to go about with any type of relationships. You don’t expect anything and you’re grateful for everything you receive. And if they decide to go you let them leave with a smile on your face.
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writerbuddha · 3 months
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Even Padmé wasn't a Jedi, did she have attachments to Anakin?
Well, it's very important to understand that non-attachment is not restricted to the Jedi - it's not a religious vow or rule or concept. It's to close the gap between reality and how you approach to it: you are not trying to acquire permanent happiness through possessing and having impermanent things. Jedi Knights are not supposed to have attachments, it's not a Jedi-specific quality. Han Solo also let go of his attachment to Leia in Episode VI, when he was genuinely willing to stand aside so she and Luke could be together, if that would make Leia happier. Shmi Skywalker didn't have attachment to Anakin: her love wasn't about how happy Anakin makes her, but how happy she wants Anakin to be. So, she let him go, even though being without him was unpleasant for her. Jedi Knights are cultivating this attitude toward everyone, they're trained to love without grasping or clinging on the people they love, without wanting them to stay in their lives and stay as they are, to make themselves happy.
I would not say that Padmé was attached to Anakin, since she was able to let go of him. At the end of Episode III, she never ceased to love him - wanting him to be happy and free from suffering - but she was able to tell him that she cannot and won't follow him on the path he is going down, even if it means, she will have to live without him. In Clone Wars, it was her who effectively ended their relationship, even though later they reconciled, and although she ultimately did not sacrifice Anakin for keeping Grievous a prisoner, it was clear that she was seriously considering it, and her choice wasn't born out of fear of not having him in her life. She traded Grievous for Anakin only after the Gungans, who lost many of their own to capture the droid general, urged her to do so. That was a more complex situation, involving the conundrum of sacrifice for a meaningful victory vs. sacrifice that leads to victory but makes victory hollow.
So, I say that her flaws are mirroring Luke's flaws. As George Lucas says about Luke leaving Dagobah in Episode V, "[Luke is] being succumbed by his emotional feelings for his friends rather than the practical feelings of “I’ve got to get this job done before I can actually save them. I can’t save them, really.” But he sort of takes the easy route, the arrogant route, the emotional but least practical route, which is to say, “I’m just going to go off and do this without thinking too much.” And the result is that he fails and doesn’t do well for Han Solo or himself." In the same way, Padmé is succumbed to her emotional feelings of being in love with Anakin, rather than the practical feelings of "it would destroy us, he is a Jedi, I am a Senator, it won't work, we love each other but we can't be together." She takes the emotional but least practical route, which is to say, "I know it's a doomed relationship and I won't be happy with it but I'm so in love, I will do it anyway." Which is not exactly attachment.
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wordsofwisdomandsoul · 11 months
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sk-lumen · 1 year
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Non-attachment isn't about going through life without connecting emotionally to anything. It's about understand that what is meant for you will be for you no matter what you do or say, it will find you regardless. There is peace in knowing that you cannot lose or miss what is for you. Surrender, trust in the process.
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aspiritualwarriors · 2 years
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Dying to your own attachments is a beautiful death. Because this death releases you into real life. You have to die as a seed to live as a tree.
— Mooji
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turiyatitta · 1 month
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“At the zenith of non-attachment, we uncover the paradox of true life: not a possession to be clutched but a boundless flow that nourishes from a realization of interconnectedness, guiding us back to our essence, woven into the fabric of all that is.”
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scriptorsecular · 6 months
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"A man can be happy with any woman, as long as he does not love her."
— Oscar Wilde, The Portrait of Dorian Grey
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bbygirl-obi · 10 months
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shmi skywalker adhered to the jedi code more than anakin ever did
okay that's a very clickbaity title but i was rewatching the phantom menace and i found it so interesting that shmi actually demonstrated non-attachment and adhered to the jedi code with regards to anakin two different times during her brief screentime! i think it's important to emphasize this because shmi was anakin's only parent and primary influence during the early stages of his life. anakin's tendency towards attachment is not a result of shmi's parenting- it's despite it. so let's go through it!
the first instance of shmi's non-attachment occurs when she is presented with the notion of anakin racing on boonta eve in order to help qui-gon and padme. she explicitly says she thinks the racing is "awful" and tells anakin, "i don't want you to race." but she sets her own feelings aside- she lets go of her fear about anakin and prioritizes the greater good. the greater good, in this case, is padme and qui-gon's mission, and its implications for naboo.
shmi recognizes that her fear is not more important than an entire planet: "i may not like it, but he can help you... he was meant to help you," she says. there are also implications that she is listening to the will of the force here, and that she understands this is what anakin was meant to do.
the second instance of her non-attachment occurs when anakin is freed and she is not. she is the one who requests that qui-gon take anakin with him to coruscant to become a jedi. though she is clearly sad to part ways with him, lamenting to qui-gon that "he was in my life for such a short time," she still encourages anakin to go.
here, shmi recognizes that her desire to keep anakin near her is not more important than what is best for anakin. i've written a post here about the fact that shmi struggles to understand anakin's unique status with regards to the force, and that she turns to qui-gon and the jedi for help. shmi knows the jedi can help anakin grow this special part of him that she "can't explain" herself. she also knows that doing this will make anakin happy: she tells anakin that going with qui-gon is a chance to "make your dreams come true."
and she even drops a little nugget of wisdom, straight out of the jedi code, onto anakin. wisdom that anakin will later reject from the mouths of people like obi-wan and yoda, even though it is the exact same thing shmi believes, the exact same thing shmi is shown to have taught him. "you can't stop change, any more than you can stop the suns from setting," she tells anakin. "it is time for you to let go... to let go of me."
it's not a coincidence that shmi's screen time in the phantom menace is exclusively spent adhering to the jedi tenets of love without attachment. shmi is human, and she feels love just as anyone else. she feels scared when anakin is in danger, and she feels sad at the idea of not having him near. but she does not allow this to take precedent over the greater good, whether that is for the planet of naboo or for anakin himself.
that is non-attachment. it is letting go of someone- not because you don't love them, but because you do. and shmi skywalker is the very embodiment of it. when anakin rejects obi-wan's advice about letting go, when he refuses yoda's advice that death is inevitable, he is not just rejecting the jedi's philosophies. he is rejecting shmi's values as well. the further he sinks into attachment, the further he is forsaking his own mother's memory. that's the tragedy.
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urloveangel · 1 year
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santmat · 6 months
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“The world is like an army of stars in the dawn sky. Sahajo says: they will not stay. Like a pearl of dew, like water in the hollow of your hands. The mind makes a fortress of smoke and creates a glorious kingdom there. It is a game of hide and seek, Sahajiya, nothing happens. No truth is told. Know that the world is false, only the soul remains. Sahajo says: know the true Self, which time cannot destroy.” (Sant Sahjo Bai)
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writerbuddha · 10 months
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Attachment Theory and Master Yoda - the Jedi Way to Security
Myths and facts about attachment
"Attachment" is a sticky word. An attachment, in its literal meaning, is a tie or fastening. Figuratively, it connotes a feeling that you like or love someone or something and that you would be unhappy without them. In the 2020s, it become quite popular to assert, "attachment", as it is used in colloquial speech, was proven to be the basis of our normal emotional and social development by modern psychology. However, this is very far from reality - the central concepts of attachment theory are fairly easy to understood, professionals of the field of attachment researchers are warning us not to be too eager to equate them with everyday conceptions of social relationships.
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In attachment theory, "attachment" has a specific meaning: it is an emotional bond or tie between an individual and another, based on the need for safety, security and protection. An attachment relationship is said to exist when one preferentially seeks out and maintains proximity to a specific person and protests separation from that individual, uses that person as a safe haven during times of distress and uses the person as a secure base from which to explore the world. In the context of attachment theory, a "securely attached" child see their caregiver as a secure heaven to retreat for safety and protection in times of threat and danger, and a safe base from which to explore the world, learn new skills, face challenges in life.
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The goal of our attachments in our adulthood is the same: it's to experience a sense of security and stability through establishing and maintaining high-quality, emotionally supportive relationships. In the context of psychology, the lack of attachments means lacking discriminated and preferential intimate relationships with persons who might serve as safe base and secure heaven. In the same time, attachment is not the same as, nor it is synonymous with "love", "affection", "bond", "relationship", nor does it serving as an overall descriptor for close human relationships. For example, a baby is "attached" to their parent, but the parent's "attachment" to the baby would be pathological and leave the child with severe psychological damage, deprived from feelings of safety and stability. Contrary to the popular belief, a "parent's attachment to their child" would not mean cuddling and kissing and loving and caring, but would mean the parent relying on the baby for care, security and protection. In adult relationships, "attachment" won't ensure that sex, attraction and love would exist, as those can split among different relationships. It should be also noted that an "attachment relationship" does not need to, and in certain contexts must not be reciprocal, and most activities children may have with "attachment figures" (e.g. playing or singing etc.) are not related to "attachment" at all.
The "attachments" of a Jedi Knight
The idea that a Jedi Knight is prohibited to have discriminated and preferential intimate relationships with persons who might serve as safe base and secure heaven, deprived from satisfying their basic human need for safety, security and protection, is based on the false belief that the "attachment" Western psychology views as a basis for healthy emotional and social development would cover the whole, board meaning of the term that it carries in colloquial speech. It's not surprising that this reading of the story fails to gather evidence from the actual Star Wars story to support itself: the Jedi are depicted in a way which is actually consistent with what is expected from an attachment-secure person. In truth, in George Lucas’ Star Wars, encompassed by the six movies and the six seasons of the Clone Wars series, the Jedi are consistently and explicitly depicted as safe base and secure heaven, required by Western attachment theory, to each other and their apprentices.
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Although Jedi younglings are taken from their birth families very early, “they learn quickly that their true family is now the Jedi Order”, and sometimes, just like in the case of Tiplee and Tiplar, they are truly related by blood. Whenever a padawan describes their relationship with their master, they explain, they are/were like a parent to them. In Episode I, Obi-Wan Kenobi clearly shared a bond with Qui-Gon Jinn defined by trust, warmth and providing mutual comfort and care. In Episode II, Anakin Skywalker says, Obi-Wan Kenobi is “the closest thing to a father” or “like a father” to him. Although he keeps his marriage to Padmé Amidala in secret, he is comfortable to talk to him about his feelings for her openly, just like he talks about his nightmares with him, and the two were shown, and intended to be seen by George Lucas to have a “warm friendship”. In Clone Wars, Aayala Secura also described her relationship with her master as “he was like a father to me.” Ahsoka has an especially strong bond with Plo Koon, before and after she become Anakin’s padawan. Shaak Tii compares the Jedi Order to the brotherhood of the clones, “where the group and the individual are the same.” All these close relationships are showing that the Jedi were indeed forming the discriminated, preferential intimate relationships, involving receiving and giving love, affection, comfort, protection. Jedi Masters are indeed fulfilling the roles of "attachment figures"; individuals who're perceived to be stronger and wiser and to whom once can turn for support, protection and care.
"Attachment is forbidden. Possession is forbidden."
The kind of "attachment" Jedi Knights forbade, is defined in George Lucas' Star Wars story. In Episode II and III, attachment, as a form of love, is mentioned together with possession, and it's contrasted with compassion, defined as unconditional love. It’s said, it’s the shadow of greed, leading to jealousy, and when one formed an attachment, it means, they are holding on to something or someone, and they’re afraid to lose it. Attachment should be broken by letting go of what they fear to lose and accepting death as natural part of life.
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Therefore, "attachment" is defined in accordance with the colloquial usage of the word: the feeling of you love/like something/someone, and that you would be unhappy without them. It's not hard to see that this feeling is locked together with the desire to keep them in your life, generating fear of the loss of the objects of attachment. It should be understood that by definition, attachment is ceased once one no longer wants these things and people to stay with them, or in other words, no longer desires them to stay as they are, not go away and not to change, so he will supplied with happiness. Letting go is essential - as Shmi tried to teach Anakin, "you can't stop change any more than you can stop the suns from setting." In other words, the Jedi way helps individuals achieve a more stable form of happiness, through revealing the impermanent nature of sensory experiences and helping individuals to accept the threat of impermanence and let go of attachment to their external sources of security.
"Compassion, which I would define as unconditional love, is central to a Jedi's life."
"Compassion, which I would define as unconditional love, is central to a Jedi's life" as Anakin explains to Padmé. Compassion is most often defined as sympathetic consciousness of others' distress together with a desire to alleviate it - showing kindness and warmth and being willing to help others is showing compassion. It's important to realize, wanting another person to be free from suffering and wanting another person to be happy, is essentially the two sides of the same coin - thus, it shall be clear why Anakin Skywalker defined compassion as "unconditional love."
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When there is a genuine care for others' well-being and happiness, our hearts become warm, open and connected to others, and we ourselves feel a sense of genuine well-being. This is the mental joy that arises out of compassion - it's able to sustain itself, therefore, unlike sensory experiences and transient objects, it's everlasting. Thus, "attachment", as it's used in colloquial language, is "forbidden" and "must not be formed", so the Jedi Knight will be free from all the grasping and clinging attitudes, inherent to attachment. In the same time, the Jedi way highlights giving and receiving unconditional love, warmth, affection and support. As George Lucas himself said: "A Jedi is never lonely. They live on compassion. They live on helping people, and people love them. They can love people back. But when that person dies, they let go. Those that cannot let go become miserable. That's the lonely place."
In Conclusion
Although at first glance, "attachment is forbidden" and "a Jedi must not form attachments" are seeming to be contradictory to Western psychology, it should be clear that the Jedi way, as it was presented in George Lucas' Star Wars story, isn't just consistent with but also complementary to modern Western psychology. Jedi Knights are forming discriminated, preferential intimate and supportive social relationships, which involves receiving and giving love, labeled as "attachments" in Western psychology. In the same time, it offers a road to security by minimizing tendencies to look for security in something permanent in a world in which everything changes, nothing is completely stable, certain, or immutable.
Sources:
Cornerstones of attachment research by Dr. Robbie Duschinsky, Oxford University Press, 2020. • Attachment in Adults: Clinical and Developmental Perspectives by Michael B. Sperling, William H. Berman, Guilford Press, 1944. • Understanding Attachment and Attachment Disorders: Theory, Evidence and Practice by Vivien Prior, Danya Glaser, Child and Adolescent Mental Health Series, Royal College of Psychiatrists’ Research and Training Unit, Jessica Kingsley, London and Philadelphia, 2006. • Falling Out of Romantic Love: A Therapeutic Guide for Individuals, Couples and Professionals by Crystal Wilhite Hemesath, Routledge, 2020. • Handbook of Attachment: Theory, Research, and Clinical Applications, 3th edition, edited by Jude Cassidy, Philip R. Shaver, The Guilford Press, 2016. • Attachment in Adulthood, Second Edition: Structure, Dynamics, and Change by Mario Mikulincer, Philip R. Shaver, The Guilford Press, 2016. • Adult Attachment - A Concise Introduction to Theory and Research by Omri Gillath, Gery C. Karantzas, R. Chris Fraley, Elsveier Science, 2016 • Restoring mentalizing in attachment relationships - treating trauma with plain old therapy by Jon G. Allen, Ph.D., American Psychiatric Publishing, Washington, DC and London, England, 2013. • Transcend: The New Science of Self-Actualization by Scott Barry Kaufman, Ph.D., TarcherPerigee, New York, 2020.
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loveandthepsyche · 1 year
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cobotis · 9 months
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Be clear that there is no reality, happiness or identity in thoughts. Then you stop looking there... Thoughts are not the problem. But looking for yourself in them was the error...
~ John Wheeler
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