so compelled by the potential of the insomniac norman-harry father-son dynamic. my son hates my politics and owes everything to it. i don't have time for him because i'm busy making the world for him. i've killed for him and he'll never forgive me. he is my greatest experiment. he is my wife's urn. he has my hair and his mother's illness
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Right. I'm in the rambling mood. So this post is probably going to be a whole load of nonsense, but fuck it I ball. I'm boutta yap to everyone about why I think Norman Osborn is a villain I can't sympathise with.
Let's start this by talking about villains I CAN sympathise with; Otto and Flint. I can sympathise with the other two because they have stories that make me feel empathetic. Flint wants to help his sick daughter, even if it's through illegal means. Otto had effectively a perfect life; a stable career and a loving wife, and he was doing what he enjoyed. When he loses it, it's bound to cause some empathy. Yes, his ambition is the cause of it all, but regardless, he lost practically everything.
With Norman, there's none of this. I don't feel any sort of sympathy. NWH's portrayal of him just makes it seem like his actions aren't his fault. In the Raimi Trilogy, the opposite is true. Norman wants the control, the power, but to accomplish that, he would taint his image. He doesn't want to taint his image because that would simply cause more problems. The serum simply just removed his inhibitions. Having had his inhibitions removed through the Goblin, he can do the things he wanted to do but without tainting his image. Norman lost nothing to achieve his goals.
But then you wonder, "Why didn't the same happen to Harry?"
It's because Harry had one goal in mind; kill Spider-man. He didn't want to harm anyone else, just him. Norman didn't care who he hurt, whereas Harry only wanted to harm Peter/Spidey.
Besides this, Norman was generally a bad father, too. That helps us sympathise much less.
Anyways, thanks for listening to me ramble, I had to get my thoughts out before I don't get any sleep ;-;
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Green goblin beating the shit out of spiderman: anylast words spiderman?
Spiderman: yeah I fucked your son
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rewatching all the spiderman movies and in spiderman i i know jj jameson is kind of a money-grubbing asshole but always remember when the green goblin was theatening his life asking for spiderman’s photographer, jameson lied. he was being held by the neck by this psycho flying bomb, has no reason to believe he will survive this, and peter is right there in the room, but HE LIES. he protects peter, and, albeit unknowingly, gives peter time to suit up and come back for him. but he doesn’t know spiderman is coming. he doesn’t trust spiderman, he has no way of knowing if he’ll survive this encounter, and the odds aren’t in his favor. so yeah, jameson kinda sucks, but remember that moment, when he saves peter’s life, almost at the cost of his own.
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I really like the dynamic of them both having so many demons but both of them try to look on the bright side of things... Such as having each other! :D
EDIT: It's a bit hard to see wth is going on so I added some close ups <3
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My remake of Osborn's death from ASM #122 aka "The Green Goblin's Last Stand"!
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"Instruct him in the matters of loss and pain. Make him suffer. Make him wish he were dead."
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X-Men #30 - "Who Says Romance is Dead?" (2024)
written by Gerry Duggan
art by Phil Noto
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so i got the Art of No Way Home book aaaand
is that Goblin saving Otto from drowning I see? Is that them fighting in the most gay way possible?? hello?? 🏳️🌈??
also i really like this picture 🫶🫶
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