#not that I watched any of the shows for shipping reasons

[allaboutalf]

Getting ready to drag out the old stan X/Twitter account cause wtf do you mean people who have watched the show for about two weeks & have only interacted with toxic buddie shippers are now jumping on the Tommy hate train?

There’s someone who got some traction live tweeting their watch about a week ago & it’s mind blowing to see them go from being neutral but into buddie to a full on easily led hater cause they’ve only interacted with vocal toxic fans.

Asking why people like Tommy when “all he did was be awful to Chim & Hen, apologise offscreen and kiss Buck”. If they just watched the eps about a week ago how did they forget that Tommy, Chim & Hen resolved their differences on screen & that Tommy literally risked his job & life to rescue Bobby & Athena just cause Chim asked.

You don’t have to love Tommy but the forced hate & ignoring his character development is frustrating.

It also is weird that they’ll double down on hating him over it all (& I know they’re doing it cause he’s the LI in the way of their ship) but hand wave away anything any of the other characters have done. None of them are perfect.

Plus, this whole virtue signaling narrative they’ve invented that he could have outed Buck to Eddie over a snarky closet joke that only Buck and the audience had context for - Eddie had literally just mentioned closet space - is so ridiculous it’s laughable. None of them cared when the episode aired but cause it’s gained traction within the toxic buddie fandom as something they can use to turn people against Tommy they’re now all jumping on to use it as a reason to hate.

I’m so so close to joining the few buddie and bucktommy/Kinley shippers over there I see trying to push back (& I do see you guys, I know you’re on here cause it’s a nicer environment, & I thank you for being willing to try to get through to those who are willfully ignorant). But while I like to vent here I really don’t want to engage with them.

#911 discourse #911 on abc #911 #911 abc #tommy kinard #buck x tommy #bucktommy #911 show #shipping discourse #evan buckley

[lets-try-some-writing]

Okay, I was reading the Mr. Pax Teacher Au and this idea popped in my head. So basically Optimus is finishing up a work day and a staff member comes up saying someone is here claiming to be his ‘wife’. Optimus questions the staff for a bit and then they reveal they have “pink hair”. Optimus then goes outside to see someone patiently waiting for him with a smile. (I’m a sucker for OptimusxElita, sue me!) Also Elita going “Yeah, you would.” Cause she just knows him. Hope this idea is fun for you!

Well I can't NOT write a snippet for this thank you. I have exactly two ships that I will devour without hesitation and Optimus/Elita happens to be one of them.

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Optimus's digits tapped on the desk along to the beat of a simple tune he hummed to himself as he looked over the day's papers. There were quite a few interesting pieces from his young archivists- students. His dear students. They showed such interest in the history he taught them. It was a joy to watch them grow and thrive under his tutelage.

"Abigail, you impress me yet again." He smiled as he looked over the girl's artwork. The assignment for the week had been to compose a model of something Cybertronian. Abigail, one of his more artistic students, had created quite the work of art. Despite having never seen any actual images of Optimus's fallen world, she managed to capture an admittedly quite accurate, if a tad abstract, vision of Uraya. It prompted his spark to flare in joy within his true frame.

"Mr. Pax, apologies for intruding." A feminine voice broke him from his work, prompting Optimus to place down his pile of paperwork and look up. Mrs. Glass, the school nurse, stood in the doorway nervously. She patted down her knitted sweater in what Optimus could only assume was anxiety considering the lack of any noticeable contaminant.

"Can I help you Mrs. Glass?" The nurse shifted uncomfortably before she nodded. Optimus stood up slowly, concern growing in his processors as he ran through the possible issues that might have arisen while he was working. Was the headmaster trying to tamper with affairs again?

"There is a woman outside who is claiming to be your wife." Optimus froze, his expression shifting as he tried to parse out what was happening. Arcee had already taken on the role of "aunt" for Jack. Being Optimus's wife would break her cover. It couldn't be June either for similar reasons.

Was he being stalked?

"Does she have any distinguishing features?" His expression settled into something firm as he readied himself to have to politely tell a confused woman that she had the wrong individual.

"She has pink hair and bright blue eyes. I think she might be wearing colored contacts." Whatever worry was settling into his spark halted the moment he got out the door and heard the nurse's explanation. Instead, faint hope grew steadily as he increased his pace and Mrs. Glass continued.

"She stated that her name was Ariel of Iacon. Although I am not sure where that city is-" Optimus stopped listening and broke into a sprint as he forced his holoform to go faster than it should have been able to according to human biology.

She couldn't be here.

He sent her away after the Allspark was taken from its place.

There was no way his Conjunx was on Earth after so many millennia apart.

"Being a teacher suites you." It was not the voice he knew, not entirely. There was none of the underlying glyphs or tones of their homeworld, but he knew her voice anywhere. He could never mistake her.

"Elita." He stepped out, his holoform momentarily flickering as Elita-One waited for him patiently, her arms crossed over her chest and a font smile on her face. He could almost see the mighty warrior that was his Conjunx through the veil of her disguise. He could hardly wait to wrap her in his arms properly as soon as they were away from prying optics.

"I missed you." She was the first to wrap her arms around him, organic as they were. Their forms melded in places as their holoforms struggled to maintain the illusion alongside their raging emotional states. However, Optimus found he didn't care as he looked into oh so human eyes and saw the spark of a Cybertronian hidden behind them.

She was here. He didn't know how or why, but Elita was here with him once more.

"I stopped by your base before I came here. I wanted it to be a surprise." She laughed as she nuzzled against his neck, searching for sensory lines that where not there. Optimus wrapped his limited EM field around her as he processed her presence and relished in it.

"It has been a most pleasant surprise to see you here after so long." Distantly, he noted Mrs. Glass watching from the school entrance. Optimus didn't bother looking back as he pulled away and took Elita's hands in his. The paperwork could be dealt with later. For now, there were bonds to be reforged, memories to share, and many long cycles apart to make up for.

"To base then?" Elita smiled up at him. Optimus could almost imagine her antennae perking up as he grinned in response.

"If that is what you want love."

#transformers #maccadam #transformers prime #optimus prime #elita one #alternate universe #teacher au #mr pax strikes again #now with his wife mrs pax #optimus x elita #oplita

[demadogs]

might be a hot take but god it pisses me off so much that every wlw show ive watched thats been canceled had an INCREDIBLE plot aside from the romance. like time travel or uncontrollable telekinesis or a fucked up social experiment of a staged plane crash. all very interesting stories and the wlw romance is a bonus and they still get canceled.

but literally nothing else has to happen for a mlm show to break records. nothing happens in shows like heartstopper. its JUST a high school romance. yes theres some wlw and i know people will argue that the focus on just high school is why they like it but it pisses me off how well they do compared to incredibly elaborate and brilliant stories that also have wlw romance. and they do well ENTIRELY bc its mlm.

and its because straight people (specifically straight girls) love mlm stories so shows like heartstopper get the straight audience AND the gay audience but no straight people care about wlw fiction like that. so every wlw show gets a smaller audience because its just a gay audience watching, and it leads to it being canceled every fucking time.

#people might get mad at me for bitching about heartstopper i know its cute and cheesy and harmless but god it drives me crazy how well shows #like that do compared to wlw shows which in my opinion are SO much more interesting plot wise #straight girls will see any mlm show and lose their shit so its so easy for those shows to be successful #stranger things might actually be the first show ive watched with a future wlw couple that didnt get canceled #and this is one of the main reasons why i love byler so much bc its a part of such a bigger story #and i think thats a huge reason why the majority of people who love byler are queer unlike a lot of other popular mlm ships #im furious rn #im tagging byler bc youre all gay #byler #paper girls

[cowboyhorsegirl]

You mentioned you don’t ship Destiel but you don’t NOT ship Destiel, but I gotta say it’s pretty funny how they just…stopped giving Dean like ANY love interests post season 6 after the 2nd show runner tried to kill off Cas and fired Misha and then got fired themself, all the other show runners were like, nah we are keeping Dean’s emotional support Angel/Jensen’s emotional support weirdo lol. (In moments of “Jensen totally kins Dean” Jensen kept saying he wanted Misha back and refused to stop pressing for Cas to return and from then on in show whenever Cas dies/is forced away Dean’s like, actively not ok and it’s hilarious)

LMAO i love this, it feels like i'm on a walking tour of a city and you're my guide pointing out all the landmarks i've only ever seen in pictures before

i think i ship destiel the way ppl will eat a free sample at the grocery store like. ya sure why not

#dynamics of the actors being WAY too reminiscent of the homoerotic dynamic of the characters is a parallel to stevetony hmmmm #maybe that's part of the secret sauce for ships that drive ppl to the brink of madness #destiel #spn #anon #signed sealed delivered #the only reason i'm not into spn is bc i don't like horror-y tv shows but if someone's made a supercut of JUST deancas homoerotic bits #👀 #genuinely i can't watch any horror unless i'm being violently cuddled throughout

[elmoshipsbyler]

my dad is so supportive of my interests (including stranger things), and i can talk to him about anything

but he’s also slightly confused about.. everything

a while ago, i was telling him about how they were selling merch of will’s painting, and how they’re making a profit off of a queer character’s feelings without giving him actual romance. and how, if byler isn’t canon in season 5, that would probably count as queerbaiting

today i was telling him about how some people ship elmax, and how it’s really cute but it’ll most likely not be canon, and he got very upset, saying “but they have to put it in the show! or else it’s might be……” *long pause* “that thing you were saying? gay bashing? gay hating?? queer hating???”

not quite correct but i love the effort

#he’s genuinely an enthusiastic byler shipper #he has no proof or reason to ship them #but i guess he figured that it was his job as a good dad to support me unconditionally #and that included being a byler shipper #he only watched the show for the scifi aspect and was generally unaware of any relationship plots #but the second i said i thought mike was gay #he took it as a challenge #it’s great i love my dad #stranger things #byler #byler tumblr #will byers #mike wheeler

[ladyriot]

what are your rarepair(s)?

I have such a long list of these that it could go on forever; I see one look and I'm like "they should be together." Some are serious and some are kinda jokey, and some are only rare pairs because the fandoms around them are overwhelmingly heterosexual, but here's some of them:

Nas / Patterson [Blindspot] (here's my post on why, very spoilery and silly)

Jane / Patterson [Blindspot] (this one grew on me)

Brennan / Angela [Bones]

Brennan / Cam [Bones] (i swear this is the best match on paper even if others are better in chemistry)

Emily Prentiss / Penelope Garcia [Criminal Minds]

Emily Prentiss / Jordan Todd [Criminal Minds]

Fearne Calloway / Imogen Temult [Critical Role]

Fran / CC [The Nanny]

And that doesn't even touch on all of my weird crossover ships that probably no one in their right mind is thinking about, of which my top few are Temperance Brennan (Bones) and Maura Isles (Rizzoli and Isles), Cam (Bones) and Gillian Foster (Lie to Me), Maura Isles and Megan Hunt (Body of Proof), and Maura and Gillian Foster.

#i have a lot of “small” ships that I don't think of as rare pairs and some rare pairs literally too off the wall to mention #if it's not obvious i only watch crime shows old sitcoms and critical role #p.s. i should say when i “ship” two people it's not always that i want them in a healthy happy relationship that's perfect #sometimes the reasons they might be a bad match is WHY they're an interesting pairing to me #so if you think any of these are bad matches you're right they're just interesting bad matches

[inthecarpets]

I'm not sure if i have anyone to ask so i got a question regarding Good Omens season 2 here

i'm asking pretty much:

Does the second season of Good Omens get better?

Like: i watched the first episode and felt disappointed given how well written and throughrough the first season was. And the second season in the very first episode felt as if it was lacking.

Dad, who i was watching it with, thought it wasn't good. And he's one of those people who can actually tell if a production is well done, bad or just mid. (and He thought the first season was good and enjoyed it even tho he dislikes when authors play around religions in fiction as he finds it mocking toward religions.)

Maybe it was a mistake to re/watch the first season hours before watching the second one, but honestly i'm unsure whether i should watch it further, i might simply skip it? In this case for me the fandom fun is not important, i just want it to be actually good and as thought through as the first season, and i fear it is not the case.

#i cannot let conservative dad sit through a queering of a mid tv show #and 'representation time uwuuuwu!!' #'fandom/shipping pandering uwuuwuwu' #like idk. it's something i fear #sibling said second season mcs are gay and dad did not react to that at all #but if it's only mid but queer then i'd rather not watch further with him at all #carpet talks #Good Omens 2 #Good Omens second season #Good omens opinions #Good Omens criticism #also like: One thing is Crowley in the first season crying out that he didn't really want to fall. but if in second season they are going #to make religion look bad then my dad is going to be displeased #so it'd be another reason not to watch #(someone reading this might think my dad only thinks like that about christian stuff and i'm just going to cut it short: siblings offered #him watching a mockery movie on some small country and culture and he wasn't pleased either. :/ He said he really dislikes mocking of any #religion country or culture within popculture

[du-hjarta-skulblaka]

X-men 97 is frustrating bc I'm really enjoying the dramatic emotional subplots right up to the point I am INFURIATED by them bc it feels like they're arguing over nothing when the clear and obvious solution is RIGHT THERE

#like! #jean and scot and jeans clone. #ITS NOT A LOVE TRIANGLE when two of the people involved are the SAME PERSON #like!! youve established they have the same memories! theyre the same person!!!! #youre not cheating on jean with jean when you talk to jean!!! #like!!! love triangles are dumb literally any time anywah but this is one where polyamory is #NOT ONLY UNEQUIVOCALALLY THE ANSWER #but the most obvuous and easiest conclusion to reach!! YOURE FUCKIN PSYCHIC WHY CANT YOU HAVE A REASONABLE CONVERSATION #AND MAGNETO/ROGUE #ive recently become aware thats a popular ship and whatever man indony wanna yuck anyones yum but like #dude groomed her though. like that was a thing that happened. #unintentionally maybe but he still took advantage of a power dynamic #and i kinda like their current dynamic but. i cant get around that so thr triangle with gambit is. its nothing! #ANYWAY im yelling about this bc its actually a fantatsic show and everyone should be watching itml

[musical-chick-13]

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#the PROBLEM is. some properties I like I cannot even talk about my Criticisms™ because if I do it attracts people whose side I am NOT on #like in the case of a certain british procedural show adopting old mystery novels that went on hiatus a lot. I did not like season 4. #but that is not because The Ship didn't go canon and it CERTAINLY wasn't because I never thought any of the show was good in #the first place. and I don't like The Main Ship of the c-chibs era but it's because the way it was written was VERY much not for me. #it's not because I think the whole era is trash (that ship was really the ONLY part of it I didn't like I loved everything else) #I DO have beef with some of the choices in season 8 of The Gritty Deconstruction Fantasy Show but they sure weren't ANY of the issues #that anyone else had!!! and I don't think it retroactively ruined the whole show actually!!!!! #like it's just so frustrating. especially since sometimes I DO want to break down what I consider to be unfortunate writing choices. #and I DO want to complain sometimes! but so much of the discussion around various properties is taken up by me just. #trying to explain that I'm allowed to like it in the first place and defending why I don't think it's Unconditionally Bad #so I can't ever like. for example. discuss the deaths in 8x03 and my issues with THOSE as character endpoints #or why they killed mary and had her husband act terribly to her for no reason just before she died #or how shitty it was in the last era for me to see ANOTHER character be mentally ill but in the most unobtrusive palatable way possible #(and then also make that really weird comment about a previous love interest??? who WAS unpalatable in many ways--though not like. #canonically mentally ill. even if I and many other people are drawn to that interpretation.) #perHAPS I want to talk about my confusion over the story's handling of j/d for reasons that are not 'I hate these characters' or #'that's pRoBLeMaTiC and you shouldn't ship it because that's pRoBLeMaTiC' #maybe I WILL just make a 4-hour video essay unpacking all my Thoughts™ on that show. because people don't have to watch it! #they could just hit the back button!

[thetimelordbatgirl]

After watching Cosmic Fury myself....yeah, my opinion still the same really: it doesn't really feel like an ending to a 30 year old franchise like Power Rangers, it just feels like another series of Power Rangers.

#like i dunno #i did enjoy parts of it #evil ollie was actually a good part of the show #alongside izzy roasting him at any chance #and i did enjoy fern #but the suits...dear god they didnt get better as i watched them in action #the zords were confusing constantly #and the fact that this could have been twenty episodes instead of ten #but hasbro was cheap #and like billy still hasnt learnt to move on from zordon already in the ending #and zaytos writing/treatment...oh its bad #and call me a bitch for this but i dont care for amelia/ollie as a ship #not even in dino fury did i #cause ollie was just a dick to amelia in dino fury #plus no female returning rangers??? da fuq??? #not even amelia's mom returns #closest shit we get is that she gave birth at the end #which was cute especially with the babys name and reasoning #but like ughhhh the ending #doesnt feel like end of power rangers #and im not really optismitic about this reboot #its netflix it'll be bad somehow and a miracle if it gets beyond first season #and like 'its going to be adult' like ahhhh #i dont like that #we saw what happened with winx and PPG #it never goes well when kids stuff is made into adult #and weird as fuck 2017 PR was kinda adult but got shit for it #and cut to now and people are fine with an adult reboot like what

[nymika-arts]

I rmbr you posting a while back that 911 isn't queerbaiting. And at that time I agreed. Just found out about this though-

https://www.tumblr.com/sherlocking-out-loud/717736323395518464/and-on-the-subject-of-queerbaiting-fox-us-never?source=share

This is DEFINITELY queerbaiting, acc to me. Thoughts?

link

honestly i mostly just find this hilarious lmao

#actual answer: i feel like people are just looking for ways to think they're being queerbaited at this point #and if you're searching for reasons to be disappointed in something you're probably gonna find some #i'd still hesitate to call this queerbaiting bc (as i've said before) this is a marketing scheme designed specifically to manipulate #potential queer viewers while not driving away conservative ones #which is just entirely pointless for a show that already has very prominent queer representation #bc conservative viewers who don't want to see queer rep would already not be watching this show #and like i've seen people argue that oh they're okay with hen bc she's a lesbian and henren was established from the beginning #and oh they're okay with michael bc blah blah whatever #but you could come up with arguments like that for any show #and then you're just circling back around to 'it's queerbaiting bc my favourite ship isn't canon' #so really this just feels like nothing to me #this is the same kinda thing other shows do with straight ships #ALSO not for nothing but another key thing about queerbaiting is the 'no intention of follow through' #which unfortunately is impossible to know for sure until there is concrete canon proof that what was promised is never happening #or the show is over #so 🤷‍♀️ #nyms asks #queerbaiting #911 fox

[butchdykeorpheus]

i love mistynat but it's always so funny to me when i see people latch onto the comments made about how "travis and nat were so toxic together" as a reason to hate travis and travisnat. and then turn around and ship nat with Extremely Normal Woman Misty Quigley. nat has told her to fuck off a million times and misty just conveniently forgets how to read and then rips the wires out of nat's car

#this is the Fucked Up People In Toxic Relationships show idk what to tell you. also travis was like fully a teenage boy #and absolutely no worse than any of the fucked up girls around him #relatively speaking travis is probably having one of the most measured and reasonable responses to all the bs happening in the woods #this is not ship hate in any direction i just think some of the reactions ppl have to travis compared to other girls are like?? sure ok #gray.txt #gray watches stuff

[transasahi]

vId fr brings out the worst in me i am just going through the notes of the lawlight v kIance poll and just. blocking people. instead of enjoying my saturday like a fucking normal person

#keith speaks #sorry i hate kIance so much😭😭 #like. once upon a time i mightve felt neutral about it but #but too much shit happened and also they just never had the chemistry that keith had with basically ANY OTHER CHARACTER #shiro james and hunk all had way better chemistry with keith #LOTOR had better chemistry w keith and they never even interacted #hunk and lance had way better chemistry #i Hated alIurance when i first started watching and adored them by the end bc their dynamic changed so much #anyway. #there are a million better ships in that show and i will forever be better that kIance became the popular one and the discourse that ensued #also the sh/eith slander like yall were so bitter and rude for no reason #anyway #this is a vent post #pls ignore

[thestarmaker]

I've always been on the aro spectrum even before I was fully aromantic and thinking back to so many TV shows/movies I would always think that "unnecessary" relationship plots/drama made the media actively worse and was very rarely into them. Now I realize that the few pairings I did like on my own (and not bc everyone else did so I just fell for it too) was because the writers were able to convince me that the characters respected each other on a personal level. If I couldn't see or even imagine the respect I didn't like them as a couple (not that I realized it until I was older). That still holds SO true for me, and let me tell you the numbers haven't gone up much.

#the queer ships i had when i was like 13-16 and just starving for any shred of representation don't count #aromantic #like i was genuinely surprised to learn that a lot if not most people watched icarly for ahipping reasons #and i learned that last year #during the show i was kinda like whatever when they'd ship tease carly and freddie bc at least they were nice to each other #then when it started being all abt sam/freddie i stopped watching bc i just couldn't believe they respected e/o enough to not waste my time #not that that's the *best* example bc most fans agree that they were handled like shit #but still like. i was team edward bc my friends were. then i was team peeta bc it was about humanity and healing and softness #aro #love triangles were such an annoyance (aside from thg bc it was never About Just The Boys) for me growing up #like if i was reading a book w one in it that sure as hell wasn't the main point of the book #and forget the 'nice girl wants disrespectful bad boy' trope. never liked it and never will. funny when played for comedy tho #twister got me thinking abt this bc i always loved jo/bill bc it was clear that they thought of the other as equal and competent and strong #additionally w them they never played into the 'im just not complete w/o you 🥺' thing. i also hate that. #they care abt each other so deeply even just as friends and colleagues. that whole group does. #... if you've read all these tags here have a little guy ☆٩(｡•ω<｡)و

[wingsyliveblogs]

Question do you ship any of the characters so far?

1. That's a good question! I get invested in characters and character dynamics in any given series very easily, but shipping is a lot more variable. I'd say that right now, as of Season 1 Episode 8, the extent of my interest in ships for the Owl House is that I know Luz and Amity are going to develop a relationship in canon eventually and I think that's neat.

2. This one's a little easier to answer. While I love everyone in the cast, I'll admit to being a little biased in Amity's favour already. What can I say? I like smug rival characters, characters who are a little bit full of themselves but it's because they're covering up something else and/or because they're legitimately talented, and characters who get a lot of development (as I'm certain she will).

Besides that, the characters I'm most invested in tend to change from episode to episode, depending on who's getting more focus. Following Episode 8, I'd say that I'm very interested in seeing more of Lilith.

3. Episode 5, for sure! It had everything: lore, character introductions, character development, character dynamics, a really cool fight scene, some really funny moments, some really emotional moments, and some ominous plot hints. It was great!

A solid runner-up would be Episode 4, because it absolutely blindsided me with bringing up Eda's curse so early in the series, and I love being surprised. Plus, it had lots of interesting stuff going on with every single member of the main trio, and it felt really balanced in that regard.

(You'd think that I'd have loved watching Episode 7, since it's got so much Amity in it, but I spent way too much time trying to analyse her character while watching and not enough time just enjoying the episode. That one's on me!)

4. Hmmm. I think I'd prefer not to elaborate on this one for now. Sorry!

#wingsy liveblogs #ask #wingsy watches owl house #owls ep 8 #(since it's where I'm at right now) #I suspect my thoughts on ships might be different if I were watching the show as it aired or without any knowledge of what's canon #but I can't know for sure #part of the reason I don't do episode rankings is that my feelings on episodes (and on characters) are pretty fluid #sometimes I'll think 'okay I like this episode/character the most' and then a few hours later my opinion has completely changed #once I lock in a fave character for certain that doesn't tend to change #but since I'm still early in the series and I'm sure there are other important characters who have yet to be introduced... #...I'm leaving it a bit open for now #Amity is certainly a character I'm liking a lot already but there could very well be others later on as well #thanks for the ask!

[pankomako]

canon

also somehow canon

ghgdhsgfhsgdg i love these two sm

#hmmmmmaybe i wont tag this aa idk #these are both from the animated show so. #literally there are so many odd moments in the animated show and i WILL be drawing more of them #at least in season 4. shit crazy #glad they gave me an excuse to draw the two in such situations as the last part #this is the first time and probably the only time i've had a non-canon ship i really liked in any media #at least this ship has canon reason behind it. like when they watched the meteor shower together in the og show #i simply believe that with some character development they go perfect together #anyway imma stop ranting in the tags jsdsjhfs