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#not that im not happy roxas is back i love him but his comeback just felt kinda Oh Hey There yk
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ngl even if repliku didn’t necessarily get a happy ending like everyone else did in KH3 its the fact that he got to fulfill his one organic goal- the one thing that helped define himself as someone separate from regular riku- that makes up for it for me tbh. like even if he didn’t get to live with everyone else he got to get a happy ending in his own right and that feels the most important
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tbh i think square/disney really wanted the organization to be bad™ and irredeemable™ but they shot themself in the foot after they sprinkled in the various moments where its established that the individuals of the org arent inherently evil. which means that them having ienzo be a child originally makes it strange to have such malicious hate aimed at him in the same series where characters are expected to grow and learn and sympathize. but idk lol
h o n e s t l y ? y E Ah
im taking this chance to ramble under the cut , wh e e z e. Warning for KH3 spoilers and Mod Demyx rant rant
in my humble ass opinion, it really just feels like Nomura had a bunch of cool ideas in general, but then the train went rogue and they started adding a shit ton of plot twists (that they’d later have to explain and make relevant to the main plot) for the sake of continuing the saga and milking more money bc KH was part of so many people’s childhoods
like, it’s one of my fave games and sagas ever but to be honest, i’d love for some other company to fucking remake the entire plot without the pretense of “we gotta be kid friendly bc Disney is here uwu”. Like, you can’t really be dramatic and make any important events when every character is just gonna come back, only killing off those that you don’t know how to continue.
and it’s such a weird fucking ? amalgamation of stuff too ? not even the fact that we’re mixing talking animals,disney princesses and final fantasy shit into it, but like - sometimes it shows scenes that are too dark for Disney and sometimes it just skims over shit that it should have some proper closure because o h it’s too dark for a kid’s game. And then even deeper shit is hinted in the novels and manga bUT TYING BACK TO MY PREVIOUS ANSWERED POST, YOU CAN’T EXPAND ON LORE TO MAKE YOUR CREATION MORE STABLE LIKE THIS - IF YOU WANT TO EXPLAIN OR EXPAND UPON SOMETHING, HAVE B A L L S AND DO IT IN THE GAME, WHICH IS THE MAIN FOCUS 
Like, in KH3 they wanted everyone to get redeemed and “close off a chapter of this story” but honestly ? it was fucking rushed and done in a pretty shitty way, in my opinion. 
Ienzo just shows up wanting to help and there’s no repercussions to his actions as a nobody, he’s just like “uwu hi” and everyone’s too caught up in Sora having a phone to even care that this was one of the guys that gave them h e l l in Castle Oblivion. Same with the other apprentices, Aeleus and Dilan get no spoken lines, just a line explaining how they also wanted to be better tossed in all carelessly. That’s their redemption. 
And don’t get me wrong, I fucking adore Zexion/Ienzo, he was my crush as a kid, but ? he’s just used to show that Nobodies can be chill and they’ve been all controlled by a bigger evil, as well as part of Ansem’s own redeeming arc instead of having his O W N redeeming arc. He’s virtually useless despite all the protagonism they gave him in KH3, cause sure he calls Sora to let him know shit and he’s supposedly “working on Big Stuff for the Good Guys(tm)”, but all of this work and character development happens off-screen. Same with Vexen/Even - and he at least gets like two scenes showing that he actively works in the shadows to redeem himself. 
And I know it’s hard to make a game and they’ve been at it for a long fucking time and it requires a lot of shit but ? ? ? hONESTLY I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU ALL BUT I PREFER TO GET A SOLID CLOSURE ON THE MAIN SHIT  AND THEN MAYBE GET MORE CLOSURE FOR LESS BUT STILL IMPORTANT GROUPS IN OTHER GAMES OR REMIXES SINCE THEYRE SUPER KEEN ON MAKING A SHIT TON OF SPIN-OFFS AND STUFF. LIKE, THAT SEEMS BETTER THAN HAVING A LOT OF SMALLER PLOTS JUST SPRINKLED THERE LIKE “WHOOPS AND THEY WERE ALL HAPPY AGAIN” 
cAUSE THEY DON’T EVEN STOP THERE. THEY TRY TO CLOSE A LOT OF SHIT, BUT THEN ADD A LOT OF VAGUE CRYPTIC SHIT FOR THE UPCOMING GAMES AND STORIES ? ? ? 
like I love the final battle part a lot because it’s ? ? ? so fucking badass and it’s the end of all this journey we’ve been on, it’s Sora vs Xenahort, it’s the light vs the darkness, it’s Master Eraqus’ legacy vs Xenahort’s army. 
but it’s just an easy cheap way to close off so much shit in a short time.
the sea salt trio ? reunited. the wayfinder trio ? reunited. the remaining Nobodies who still have no fucking backstories ? gone with a hint of “we’ll be back as good guys”. Like, they added fucking Ephemera as the “light from the past”, inviting the connection between the current timeline with KHux bUT THERE’S STILL NOTHING ON LAURIAM/MARLUXIA. AND THEN THERE’S A FUCKING CUTSCENE OF VENTUS HUGGING A FUCKING CHIRITHY LIKE, YOURE NOT EXPLAINING NOR HELPING ANYONE, NOMURA.
LIKE THE SECRET CUTSCENE IMPLIES 2 THINGS : NEW CHARACTERS (FROM RIKU’S POINT OF VIEW, SINCE HE’S WATCHED BY YOZORA) AND THE COME BACK OF THE TWEWY FRANCHISE WHOSE INVOLVEMENT HAD BEEN COMPLETELY IGNORED AND JUST ABANDONED SINCE DDD. SURE, DREAM EATERS WERE HELLA IMPORTANT AND THERE’S SLEEPING WORDS THERE. AND THERE’S IMPORTANT SHIT GOING ON WITH VANITAS AND THE UNVERSED. BUT ALL WE GOT WAS A DREAM EATER SUMMONING, LIKE 5 UNVERSED ENEMIES AND MORE UNNECESSARY CONFUSION
Like I get it that KH3 was supposed to be the ending of some things and the beginning of other new things and I get that there were a lot of setbacks and things involved, but even with it’s amazing graphics and fun gameplay, it’s still another trainwreck regarding plot. But we all just keep eating it up because we’re desperate to know how it ends and bc childhood nostalgia keeps us here at gunpoint
also i’m mad that out of all KH girls, only Aqua got her time to shine. Like sure, you can argue and say that Kairi took the spotlight after saving Sora again and being a good 70% of Sora’s strength, but as usual she was thrown back into her spot as “princess in distress”, with her training and character development happening off-screen in a place that conveniently has no effect to the current events. And speaking of training, she just immediately becomes besties with Axel despite all the shit they went through with him trying to kidnap her and whatnot. And sPEAKING OF AXEL, HE GOT WAY MORE DEVELOPMENT THAN ROXAS OR XION OR KAIRI OR AQUA HERSELF
AND THAT’S SAYING SOMETHING CAUSE AQUA GOES THROUGH A LOT OF SHIT IN THIS GAME - She finally succumbs to darkness, she goes out of it, she saves Ven, reunites with Terra and after sO MANY FUCKING YEARS, she’s back on the realm of light. And that moment when she asks where they are and they tell her she’s back home and she raises her head to look at the sun and she cries ? ? that made me S H I V E R and TEAR UP MYSELF - but still, after all of that she goes to pretty much doing nothing while Axel here goes through a keyblade training, seeing Kairi as Xion, making ammends with his best friend, reuniting with his two adopted kids after so much shit and hinting anOTHER SUBPLOT WITH HIM, ISA AND A “SECRET GIRL” FRIEND THEY HAD.
BUT FROM XION WE ONLY GET THE PLOT CONVENIENT COMEBACK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BATTLE SO SHE CAN REUNITE WITH HER FRIENDS. A BIT OF INNER ANGST HERE AND THERE AND BOOM IT’S OVER SHE’S HAPPY NOW. 
AND NAMINE ? DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED. SHE’S GONE FOR SO LONG, ONLY SHOWING UP AS A STAR, MENTIONED OFF HAND BY KAIRI AND THEN SHE FINALLY GETS HER DESERVED LIFE IN THE ENDING CUTSCENE WHEN RIKU COMES TO PICK HER ASS UP. (im also mad that everyone got a happy/bittersweet ending except Vanitas and Repliku but that’s just me being sad aBOUT MY SONS)
sO LONG STORY SHORT :
I hate that this entire saga is a wreck but it still has me grabbed by the balls. Like I bought the KH special edition PS4 just to play when KH3 came out
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my thoughts on KH3! spoilers ahoy!
every cutscene with sora being dumb/cute was amazing!!, hes one of my favorite characters of all time and watching him in glorious HD was a blessing, thank you nomura, you did great sweetie!
The game was fairly short!! It took us 40 hrs and a half to complete!! it felt especially short because I didn’t play the entire game alone (also a I finished Persona5 two months ago, and that took me 115hrs lol) but taking that aside, I think it was long enough, and went to the point with finishing sora’s story, because he fucking ded
oh yeah lets talk about the ending: it was emotional, I cried a lot (very special franchise to me) but after credits rolled, I kinda felt like it was forced to be a tragic ending??? Soras like “I HAVE TO GO ALONE RIGHT FUCKING NOW” and mickeys like “lol wtf , we can regroup and search for her all together, also if you go alone like that you could not comeback (even if this is not the first time u used the power of waking I guess)” and soras like “I GOTTA GO FUCKING NOW” I guess it was kinda poetic that hes journey started looking for kairi and it ends like that, but it didn’t felt quite right for me
I read a very good explanation for this… it has to do with what young xehanort tells sora about abusing the power of awakening and how its actually supposed to be used, which makes it have more sense for him to go alone, because he knew he was already going to die, knowing this he made his last deed to save kairi without putting anyone else at risk. This is sad because now theres a DEFINITIVE reason why sora was doomed (regardless of what happened after sora saved his friends hearts from the lich).
Someone in 4chan said that nomura cant write romance for shit and I agree, they should have developed kairi’s character alongside riku’s so it didn’t felt so out of the blue (I know its implicit since KH1, see my next point). Someone also said that KH2 kairi is a better character that KH3’s and HES FUCKING RIGHT lol. I kinda appreciate that since she wasn’t very developed they went for this “tranquil, serene” type of character with her, a good contrast with sora being a dumb energy ball. Still, it wasn’t enough.
sora and kairis relationship, heres how I took it:
KH1: its this kind of love/affection when you are not really sure how much you like someone? But both of you know that the other person is really important to you??? :( innocent, pure affection, that’s what it felt like. sometimes you don’t really need a reason to like someone and if sora and kairis relationship in KH 1 was like that, that’s ok!!
KH2 and after: it started to get a lil ambiguous, the reunion by KH2 end was cute! But after that, it chilled, took the back seat and started to get very confusing, specially because rikus relationship with sora EXISTS and it gets developed way better. At the beginning of KH3 I thought that they had scraped the idea of sora and kairi being canon?? Like, I was sure it was gonna be a explicit, real thing but shes being back for a while now… and they never interact?? What happened?? Im not joking.
Basically, they don’t give us reasons to want to see them TOGETHER and right there I think: wouldn’t it be great if they did a “memories” thing like in Zelda BoTW??? Everytime you finish a world and the Disney characters say something about love, courage, passion, etc sora gets a lil flashback of a short moment that happened with kairi?????? That would have been mad cute.
Because of this, you can tell how sora and riku’s development stops at this game, but It turns out they developed so well that the key scenes they have together are GREAT and they feel natural within the game story. This is how you write romance, nomura!!
 FAVORITE SCENES:
WOODY ROASTS YOUNG XEHANORT, we had to pause the game. It was too good
Every scene sora is picked on for being too dumb! Thank you nomuraa
When sora is like “I’ll go alone to fight xehanort” and starts walking, camera on his feet, when goofy and Donald’s enter the shot… this is my favorite scene in the entire franchise.
When roxas comes back!!! Hes my second fave!!! Something falls from the sky and you cant see shit and theres jesse mcartney!!!!!!!!!!! I gasped really hard.
When axel/roxas/xion reunite!!!!!!!!!!! Good cry, xion is safe
When terra/aqua/ven reunite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fucking finally!!!!!
Sora and baymax fist bump!!
When riku comforts sora that he shouldnt worry about him and just focus on his task at hand (yen sids tower)
WHEN EVERYONES DED AND SORA CRIES AND RIKU IS LIKE “SORA, YOU DON’T BELIEVE THAT” AND STEPS IN FRONT OF HIS BOYFRIEND TO STOP THE WAVE OF DARKNESS INCOMING. SORA LOOKS UP AT HIM, RIKUS CONFIDENT FIGURE STANDS FOR SHORT UNTIL DARKNESS ENGULFES HIM, THEN SORA.
THIS IS HOW YOU WRITE ROMANCE NOMURA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We needed more moments like this with kairi if you wanted me to care enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Jack sparrow kills luxord!!!!!!!!!
XION GETS A CUTE DRESS. I ACTUALLY WANTED THIS TO HAPPEN AND IT CAME TRUE! (also she gets more screentime than I thought!)
WHEN SORA AND KAIRI ARE IN THE LIGHT PORTAL AND SORA IS SURPRISED AND SAYS “KAIRI! IT WAS YOU! YOU WERE THE LIGHT IN THE DARKNESS!!” JUST LIKE IN THE SONG, GUYS!!!!!!! THE ONE FROM KH 1. REALLY THAT WAS HELLA CUTE NOMURA IT TEARED ME UP (you just needed a bit more like this all over the other games!!!!!!!!!!) also when sora protects kairi hugging her… that was very sweet and desperate! :’(
(Theres probably more but those are the ones that come to my mind right now.)
this franchise is very important to me, and really, besides Persona, the only other one that kept me hyped in every installment. I started playing KH1 back in 2004 and from that point on its been a joy to wait for the next title. Waiting for kh3 was tedious at times but still ended up loving every game.
I’m very happy I could enjoy the franchise as the titles came out. Thank you nomura!!!!
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