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hopeworth · 3 years
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i wanna point out why c!ranboo saying to choose people is important for c!fundy.
no one has ever chosen fundy in his life. not sally. not eret. not wilbur. not dream. not philza. all his life he’s been thrown to the side or is only second to something else—power for eret, technoblade for philza, and l’manberg for wilbur.
and ranboo comes along and says he’s always going to choose people and fundy must be elated because for once he’s not going to be tossed aside. but all ranboo did wasn’t choose people—he became a bystander.
when fundy got tortured the other day, all ranboo did was watch because the people torturing him were ranboo’s friend. and fundy is desperate to “agree” with ranboo’s ideals because he wants to “team up” in that he wants ranboo to choose HIM for once in this essay i will
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shoezuki · 3 years
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ok so like i been Thinkin a lot on that stream techno had today and i may be Thinkin Too Much cuz i was doing psychology while watching but im going to say Words Now
the entire idea and Plot of tommy going from only interacting/being manipulated by dream to only interacting with techno is a Lot. theres a lot here. and i am feasting like a fucking king on the potential of it and what this could all Mean
I think we’re building up the idea of how techno and dream differ and how they house both similarities and extreme differences in their ideals. 
So if we considered how Tommy’s arcs have changed theres a very, VERY clear juxtaposition between the exile arc to.... raccoon arc? whatever the fuck is goin on
Tommy Was manipulated, isolated, and gaslit by dream. that was the only guy he really had interacted with and that was Intentional entirely. Its very obvious this will have and currently has an affect on tommy. 
Now, he’s with technoblade. theres a lot of shit that can be read in this simply as considered right now. I feel we’re clearly supposed to at least somehow compare dream and technoblade because their positions are somewhat similar concerning how they are interacting with tommy. 
Tommy can only really interact with techno, only techno really has the ability to see him (although ranboo, ghostbur, and phil could see him but theres obvious difficulties in their case), and how tommy regards technoblade is.... complicated. like how he regards dream at the moment.
but theres some really, really important and clear differences in this that i think will show a lot about techno’s character and what’s to come
first of all, there’s a question of why techno is seemingly ‘letting’ tommy live with him. No joke, i’ve discussed this a LOT in the technocord and it’s made me realize it from a different perspective since many of those people in there are from Before techno joined the smp.
so, there’s no clear ‘rational’ reason why techno would benefit from teaming with tommy. there’s some arguments that could be made; tommy’s position with people and especially tubbo, using tommy as a bargaining chip with dream, and something else i cant remember. but the technocord hardcore ppl feel tommy is a liability in the long term. techno doesn’t really have much to gain beyond a distraction. the idea of using tommy in order to convince him he’s getting the disks and then to destroy lmanberg is kinda.... its jus more trouble to techno. In fact, it wouldve been defendable for techno to kick him out; he stole his stuff, and we saw how he reacted to his cows being killed, his previous base being pillaged. You’d have thought techno wouldve been angrier.
but like. that aside. there’s little reason for techno to open up to tommy. and thats the point.
there’s no necessity on techno’s part. he doesnt need tommy. he could kick him out easily. but he won’t. 
I imagine technoblade sees the trauma and hardship tommy went through and he sympathizes with him. Its been made clear that techno doesnt know the full extent of what happened, but he doesnt need to. he knows enough. 
Now, back to the happenings of the last stream,
it wasnt plot heavy at all. (mostly because techno’s fuckign glasses are held together with SCOTCH TAPE the guy couldnt even fucking use ducttape i hate that) but there were a Few interesting things, including the Plot Stream a bit;
the ‘box’ techno made with the idea of hiding tommy from dream. (perhaps a joke but it still shows something i feel)
how he’s been giving tommy a Lot of stuff. he hasnt Genuinely been upset at his golden apples being taken; in fact, techno gave him more food in protest of him eating all the gapples instead of.... demanding them back
went mining in the nether with the intention of getting tommy better stuff
he replaced the log he accidentally stripped. extremely funny considering he got the wrong type of wood but he tried
expending more resources on tommy with invisibility potions so that he wasnt in danger of being seen
Repeatedly would assure tommy that dream Is Not His Friend.
at the idea of tommy being ‘banned’ from the nether and being attacked in lmanberg, techno laughed at the idea of him being ‘attacked’ and killed even when tommy worried that he’d die for the Last Time
implicated that techno WOULD defend him. and the idea of someone killing Either him or tommy was funny because of that
okay so slight comparison to dream; techno is instead GIVING tommy resources instead of blowing them up, he’s obviously intent on protecting him in some way, and he assures tommy that dream is No Good (rather than how dream was telling tommy no one cared about him)
But there’s one instance that was really, really important to me
the control room had a very bad impact on tommy. most likely a panic attack (the shaking, heavy breathing, scattered speech/thought is something i know so intimately lmao) and techno’s reaction to it was extremely interesting. 
first, techno said he was ‘freaking out for no reason’ which could be a) techno is horrific at emotions and vulnerability lmao and b) to Him, it Is nothing. he has no clue what tommy had been through. 
He repeatedly asked what was wrong. what had happened in that room. He pressed Slightly. but as soon as tommy said he didnt want to talk about that, techno instantly backed off and said its alright. specifically, he said:
“It’s fine, no one recovers in a day tommy. Healing is a long process, it’s fine.”
that shit hit me like a freight train. Mostly i didnt expect anything to come from this stream like that but FUCK LMAO.
The biggest thing is, i think technoblade is going to help tommy heal from the dream shit and get back on his feet. 
but also, even though im not entirely sure i need to see more, tommy will get techno to be more caring. We know philza is the only one techno is really close to, and ghostbur as well. both of which either weren’t involved in betraying techno, or doesnt remember it. i see it pointed out that techno is going at tubbo and his government rather than dream, but i think it makes sense. 
dream technically hasnt challenged techno’s ideals or what he wants; while tubbo stole from him, used him as a weapon, and reinstated a government despite everything techno was saying. 
Tommy took part in betraying him, thats without a doubt. but tommy was also screwed over by the government in place. so techno empathizes with him. maybe they dont fully trust each other, but thats a work in progress. and it will progress to technoblade trusting tommy despite their past, and realizing that dream is in a position of power over Everyone. 
tl:dr: tommy is going to heal with techno’s help and full come to terms with/realize what dream did to him, and techno is going to realize he CAN trust people and that dream has been the one pulling the strings all along
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tricks-tickles · 3 years
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You Laugh, You Lose
Ever since Ranboo had moved into the SBI House he had gotten used to his flatmates dropping in every now and then during his streams. He had even done it himself, though only to Technoblade (for obvious reasons). When he had mentioned over breakfast that he planned to do a 'You Laugh, You Lose' Techno and Phil offered to sit in, given that sometimes they could get a little boring, what with chat's sense of humour. 
So there he was, sitting comfortably in his unicorn chair, Phil and Techno having dragged two chairs up from the dining room and were now positioned on either side of him. He was mid-stream when they reached a lull in the videos. Gathering supplies for a build wasn't the most interesting and his mind was starting to wonder, as predicted. He could see it in his companions that they were feeling it too. Techno tutted, 
"C'mon chat, step up your game or Ranboo will never start gigglin'." 
He flushed a small bit, Techno's choice of words making his traitorous brain conjure up other ways he could be giggling. Of all the times to fall into a lee mood, now was less than ideal. He couldn't help but imagine teasy words and fingers on his.. wherever he was ticklish. It had been so long since he had been tickled he could barely remember it. 
Chat remained unimpressive, lots of 'loud = funny' style videos which were definitely not his sense of humour. Unbeknownst to him, there was a silent conversation of looks and actions going on behind him. When a vaguely amusing video popped up he exhaled through his nose but fell into giggles as it ended. However, the video wasn't what got him laughing. It was Techno's fingers poking his ribs, making him squirm into Phil, who smirked,
"Dude, that wasn't even funny." He said, his tone teasing. Ranboo grumbled under his breath as he removed a life, leaving him with two left. Internally, he was screaming. Was Techno psychic? And more importantly, how could he maximize his chances of more tickles without alerting chat. However, it became quickly apparent that he wouldn’t have to do much, as Phil had taken to periodically poking his side, making him wiggle in his chair. 
His next bout of proper tickles came a minute or two later, at a video he would’ve already laughed at, though it seemed that his flatmates weren’t satisfied with his small chuckle, as he was thrown into surprised cackles at two hands on each of his sides, ten fingers wiggling into the apparently sensitive skin. He fought against the urge to say something. Instead he slid down his chair, cut off from his end destination (the floor) by Phil and Techno hauling him up by his underarms. 
“I told you chat, as soon as he starts he can’t stop.” Techno said with a self satisfied smirk. Ranboo glared back, choking on a squeak when his ribs were prodded. 
It seemed Techno's theory was accurate, as it was now much harder to keep his laughter at bay. In fact, not 15 minutes later he lost the challenge, making it his shortest ‘YLYL’ yet. He quickly ended the stream, as per the rules of the game, and turned to Techno.
"What the hell was that? You lost me the challenge!" He complained, not actually angry.
"Well uh, actually, you lost that last one by yourself." Techno said in his mock nerd voice.
"Yeah," Phil added, "Plus, it could have been much worse." 
Ranboo internally cheered, the shot was all lined up, now all he had to do was:
"Oh yeah? How?" Techno and Phil shared a glance, then Techno stood up and behind the chair in one fluid motion. Ranboo craned his neck to watch his but was brought back by Phil's sneaky fingers prodding at his ribs. He tried to bat his hands away but Techno grabbed his wrists, holding them hostage above his head with one hand.
"Like this." He said with a smirk, then dug into his underarm. Ranboo squeaked, weakly tugging on his arms in a mock attempt to get away. When Techno's attack became more coordinated, zeroing on his hollow, he tried to pull his legs up but was bested by Phil, who spun his chair till he was facing him and held them down with his elbows, using his hands to scratch at his sides. This made him cackle, he had no idea he was so ticklish. Techno apparently got bored of his armpit and he moved up to flutter his fingers against his neck, making his laugh go squeaky.
“Aw, Ranboo, who knew you could go so high pitched?” Techno teased in a low voice, making him shiver amongst his cackles.
“Dohohon’t teEAHSehse.” He said, squealing when Phil’s fingers began to inch closer to his stomach. 
“Why not?” Techno asked, moving to whisper in his ears. “Does it tickle more when I point out how ticklish you are?” Ranboo nodded frantically, the word making tingles erupt in his stomach. They slowed for a second, Phil tracing shapes on his sides while Techno scratched under his chin. While Ranboo caught his breath he sunk into the chair, caught up in the bliss of gentle tickles.
“Aw Ranboo, if I didn’t know any better I’d say you like this.” Phil said innocently, making him go bright red. He tried to hide his face as Phil got a knowing look on his face.
“Wait, do you like this?” He said, right as Techno begun to dig into his ribs. Any coherent thoughts were swallowed by an onslaught of giggles. 
“Uhuhm nhoho?” He said softly, trying not to act too desperate.
“Really? Cause you don’t seem too sure.” Phil pried, moving his fingers closer to his stomach where he involuntarily arched his back. Then, the fingers disappeared. He glanced down, then up at Phil, confused. Then Techno stopped too, causing him to hold in a whine. 
“Tell you what, if you really don’t like it, we’ll stop, and we won’t do it again.” That made his gut sink, he had no idea Phil could be so cruel.
“But if you do like it, then tell us and we’ll keep going.” Shit. Shit shit shit. His face burned as Techno let go of his arms, making him immediately hide his face. He mustered up all his courage and nodded.
“Use your words, mate.” Everybody who said Techno was the scary one was so, so wrong. 
“I-I um, I might, you know, like it? A little bit? Or a lot?” He mumbled out from behind his hands. Phil gently guided his hands away from his face, softly holding them in his lap. That, with Techno’s hands resting on his shoulders made him a little drunk of how loved he felt.
“Cute. So, where do you want us to go next?” Techno said, giving his shoulders a small squeeze. Ranboo thought about it for a second, then gestured towards his stomach, bringing his hands back up to hide his face. As Phil’s fingers began to tap there Techno took his hands and held them up at either side of his face, making it hard for him to hide. He liked it a little better than his wrists being held up, it was more comforting somehow. Then Phil’s fingers switched from tapping to scribbling along his stomach and wow okay, he had no idea he could be so ticklish. He squealed, his back arching and he tried to wheel his chair away but was stopped by Techno, who squeezed his hands and resumed his teasy whispers.
“Is someone’s tummy a little too ticklish?” He said, the smirk evident in his voice.
“YEAHEHES! PHIHIHIL IHIHIT’S SO BAHAHAHD.” Phil hummed in apparent agreement, sliding his fingers under Ranboo’s shirt, which had ridden up in his frantic squirming. He cackled, loving every second but starting to reach his limit as his laugh grew wheezy. Phil sensed it, slowing a little bit. 
“Okay, one last thing, Ranboo, do you like raspberries?” 
“RahahaspbehehehERRIHIES?” He squealed as Phil blew a large raspberry right on the center of his stomach, then burst into cackles when he blew another while scratching his sides.
“PHIIHIHIL, STOP STOHOP STOPSTOPSTOP.” Phil stopped immediately, pulling down his t-shirt while Techno realised his hands. He rubbed his stomach as bubbly giggles spilled from his lips, raspberries on his worst (?) spot were a little much for his first time in god knows how long. As Phil left to go get him water and Techno rubbed his shoulders comfortingly he checked twitter, scrolling through his indirects. One in particular caught his eye.
cupid <3
@cupidwastaken_
is it just me or did ranboo sound like phil n techno were tking him during the ylyl?? im not crazy right
His face burned as he turned off his phone and slid all the way onto the floor, making Techno cackle behind him.
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ive-done-it-again · 3 years
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Things I've noticed story wise about the smp long post:
Tommy feels alone. So far everyone he's followed or trusted ether is/was against him and seemes to be against him right now.
He followed wilbur full heartedly and wilbur blew up L'manburg (specifically he wanted to blow up Tommy's L'manburg)
Techno joined the smp to help Tommy and Tommy thought that mean techno also had the same ideals as Tommy. He got 'betrayed' by him twice. (It wasn't quite a betrayal because he was 100% against gov't and was clear about that) the main reason it hurts though was because it was targeted at Tommy. "You want to be a hero Tommy? Then die like one!"
Now Tommy is the vice prez and want to gain all his disc back. He gives Tubbo one of his disc's because he needs someone he can put his trust in right now.
Then he and Ranboo "rob" George's house. Dream builds walls and says its because of what Tommy did. (He probably would have done it anyway but he's targeting Tommy.) Tommy gets put on trial.
Everyone is mad at him. No one is so obviously on his side because Tommy has some what of a black and white view on the world. Ranboo doesn't defend him but doesn't say Tommy did it.
Tubbo is a child that is the president, the one Tommy trusts the most, and is trying to do the best he can without having to exile Tommy.
Then afterwards he's declared guilty, and is on prohibition of being vice prez. Dream says that it wasn't enough to revoke his position.
The disk that Tommy gave Tubbo is brought up(probably because of the sign of trust), and Tommy freaks out. He also stresses how it was a "sign of trust" because he's the last person Tommy knows he can trust.
The possible exile is mentioned again.
And Tommy is basically alone now.
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Dream is probably trying to make Tommy feel like this. Dream knows how he felt about Techno and Wilbur and knew they were going to do that.
I think dream may be trying to 'break' Tommy in a way. (Idk how this is going to work though) The thing is, a big thing about Wilbur losing his sanity was thinking everyone was against him. And Tommy is getting there.
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Now Ghostbur!
So Ghostbur on his first arrival, rembered a good lot of stuff and was wiling to 'real talk' although he mostly rembered happy things.
The thing was, he did remember he wanted to blow up Tommy's L'manburg (I think that parts cannon, please correct me if I'm wrong im not reviewing footage while writing this)
Now he avoids anything serious. He hides in books trying to regain his memory but also, he forgets anything hes remembered.
Hes also forgetting things he's learning that are upsetting him. Like, Fundys adoption. He completely forgot the whole conversation.
Also his voice is more normal the more upsetting the conversations get.
Another thing about ghostbur. He called L'manburg his "unfinished symphony" but it really was finished. (Mostly only if you consider NLM a separate place ((like dream)))
Wilbur also finished the song, finishing the literal symphony. Also, he wants to be dead, but is stuck as a ghost for some reason. (Maybe to see L'manburg reach its final chorus?)
((I'm not sure how much of Ghostbur was supposed to be cannon but its worked its way into a big deal I think. Not sure how much dose really apply though))
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Sorry for the long post im on mobile and its also 1am. Please tell me if I got anything really wrong or made very bad typos. Anyway, its just my thoughts.
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Okay, you know how I said I wanted to watch all these german minecraft series and then watch 3rd Life SMP? Yea, I actually dont have the attention span to watch a bunch of white bread boys fuck around in minecraft with little to no story, regardless of wether theyre american or european so Im just gonna write this post and them start watching 3rd Life SMP so yeah.
First, I kinda want to discuss what Im hoping for on like, a meta-level I guess. The only other minecraft RP Ive watched that seems similar to this is Dream SMP so expect lots of comparisons.
I like to split dsmp into three major parts: no story/non-rp, story/non-rp and story/rp.
The first part was literally just a live streamed vanilla minecraft let's play and it was boring as shit. It felt exactly like watching a bunch of dudes play minecraft and unless they acknowledged the people in their donations (who could uncomfortably pushy and even shippy at times) you did not at all get the impression they were even aware of the stream. And as much as I appreciate some level of authenticity in this type of content, I also expect to be entertained by it and this did not even meet my bare minimum standard of entertainment. Admittedly, my attention span is very low so that definitely has something to do with it, but still. I personally have never felt anything but boredom and occasionally intense discomfort while watching anything from this 'era' of dsmp.
The second part was the start of the first conflict, and thus the start of some semblance of a story. They were kind of 'roleplaying' already (both in the sense that they obviously have their personas for their content and in sense that they didnt actually have grievances with one another and were just playing it up for the sake of entertainment) but it was more on the fly, even less focused and less serious. However, it was already legues more fun to watch.
And then we had the third part, where, starting with Wilbur Soot joining and deciding to larp Hamilton, they started to plan things out more and have more complex and/or dramatic conflicts. Needless to say, this was/is the best part in my opinion and what made me see the appeal of dsmp.
What Im hoping for 3rd Life SMP is, that they skip atleast the first part. From what I can tell, it was created sometime after dsmp has been in that third part for a bit and it is a minecraft rp, so Im assuming the people behind it wanted to do something similar, just with the story aspect there on purpose and from the get-go, if you know what I mean. And by the way, I dont think thats wrong or even "copying" in the slightest. Dsmp very much seems like a case of "they did it first, not best" and if anything, I think it would be a shame if people didn't want to do their own spin on this basic concept.
What Im personally hoping for in terms of the 'style' of roleplay itself, I really hope that they dont seperate it as rigidly into lore and non-lore as they did in dsmp. Ideally, they would do it like Ranboo (Wilbur when he was playing Ghostbur to an extend too, but he didnt actually stream and have his own POV back then), where he's always kinda 'In-Character' even when there isnt really anything happening in the plot at that moment. Again, I just dont have the attention span for no story in series like this anymore, so I'd appreciate it on a personal level, but I also think that it could humanize the characters more and potentially add additional depth to them. Especially since it looks like 3rd Life is made by the Hermitcraft group and if the stuff Ive read about Hermitcraft (especially in comparison to dsmp) it wont thrive off intense conflicts and wars in quite the same way, so that could also be a way of making a calmer rp interesting.
And now, some actual plot predictions!
So, the way I found 3rd Life SMP was this really neat 'Pitiful Children' animatic by ZylisticArt. I didnt actually 'watch' it because when I look up animatics I just kinda stare at the screen, not processing anything because Im too busy imagining my own OC animatic to the song, but I did read the description and was mildly intrigued, and its the main reason I wanted to watch 3rd Life so Im going to properly watch it now and post my predictions for the plot below.
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The description mentions something about the animatic being based on some kinda theory, but I only skimmed it in order to not get spoiled so idk what thats really about. Im mostly intrigued by the fact that the description mentions it being a hardcore SMP (with a twist!), that, combined with the name and the visuals of the animatkc lead me to a couple conclusions;
I dont really know how Hardcore mode works in multiplayer, but in singleplayer you just get permanently kicked out of your world when you die, so Im assuming it works like that on a server too, except on a server, Im pretty sure you have the option of being 'reinvited' onto a server by the admin(s) so you could theoretically have three lives while keeping it a hardcore project where you cant regenerate without potions or golden apples and all that. Again, idk if thats actually how hardcore works but I sure hope it is, because thats what Im basing pretty much all of my predictions on.
In the animatic there were like green people, yellow people and a red guy who was like, the antagonist I guess. I think the green guys still have all their lives, the yellow ones are down to two and the red lads are all down to their last one. Maybe theres gonna be a thing thats like, if you lose a life you lose a part of your soul and that makes you evil or something? Yknow, like the whole "character comes back wrong" thing, except its the conflict of the entire series. Pitiful Children is very much a 'Manipulating Others Into Doing Harmful Shit' kinda song, and I feel like that would be very in-line with a plotline like that, yknow?
Im not expecting there to be wars/conflicts on the scale of dsmp (no blown up countries here bois) but I am expecting to get ridiculously attached to a place that inevitably gets blown up/set on fire by an antagonist.
Speaking of antagonists, theyre definitely also doing the whole multiple POV thing, which means everyone is an antagonist in one way or another and Im a solutely watching every POV from every characters so that I know the full context and story of everything, so I can have the most correct opinions on them, which is both normal to want and possible to achieve.
Since these are the Hermitcraft guys Im expecting some beautiful builds that make me feel insanely untalented and the same thing with redstone shit.
Ghosts. If they havent added some kind of ghost mechanic/lore at the time Im writing this, they will add one in later, mark my words 3rd Life fandom, mark my words...
Thats pretty much it. This is all going under my mcyt tag too, and I dont think I'll be live blogging it, but it really depends on how interesting it is.
Also, if youre a 3rd Life fan who already watched all of it, the only thing youre allowed to respond to this with is a meme that is horribly incomprehensible to anyone who hasnt watched it.
Have a nice day!
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i-love-to-draw1 · 3 years
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Ive watched evryone and im so tired.
Anyways i have to say no one is in the right nor wrong everyone has their own ideals n beliefs n i understand that. But the actions r wut will be judge. All the adults except eret,hbomb, and the badlands(altho in uncertain with them b. Again thy want thr to be. Chaos so well see) anyways i understand where the adults coming from
Anarchy group phill n techno lost a whole lot n felt pain but their action towards literal children n peoples home was not the right way but understandable. Wut caused them was even a bigger drift, in order to show them a lesson u need to explain it. Plus ik Phil doent like dream to wut he did to tommy n im glad but he is still a shit father, choosing his best friend over his son who needed guidence bc the child never knew how to express himself in ahealthy matter. Techo has been hurt n betrayed for he want seen as human but as a weapon n oof yea tht sucks but he also doenst listen. He also manipulated a child who was literally leaving his abuser. He used tommy like tommy used him its karma but thts a child. A literal traumatised child. Nikki had a rigjt to go feral but blaming literal children who were raise in chaos n war n have no way to cope isnt the right either i understand how she just lost hope n betrayed but people she hasnt seen wut evryone been through she wasnt thr most of the time. Jack agred n in all honesty he shouldnt have involved himself, but he at least sees some aspect on not blaming one child. . Fundy is a literal child, he has a mindset of one n has so much trauma that he doesnt realise he is either wrong or hurting othrs. He agree with ranboo but he is seeing it so diffrently that i worry hell do somethin insane like quckity. Ranboo is right tht fundy wants to feel like he wont loose b/c he lost so much.
Quackity knows its dream n so does ranboo. The two agree on how bad he is n the power he has on evreyon. The problem is one is traumatized n maybe posses but belives in order to defeats a god is through diplomacy while the other belives in unity. Both are right the problm is evryob is selfish n doing their own thing. Ranboo was good now look at him. He is a scared child not knowing what to do. He is a good kid but naive. Suprisingly he is the only child(other than purple) to not do anything wrong.
Tommy n tubbo r chaotic children n yea tommy is a child veteran. This is a child who was raise in war,was manipulated n betrayed n used n gave up so much b/c of the peopel he loved. The problmes tho is tht he never learned about how his actions had consequences never learned how to express himself properly. He needed guidence he needs help in thinking things through. Im not making excuses he does deserve to get punishment when needed but he cannot have soemthing so severe for he was punished so much
Tubbo is also a child veteran. He believed in trying to do good the flaw was as dream said was pushed around constantly. He had the balls to exile his best friend but not talk back at his cabinets. Granted he lost thr trust for tht bs but he was stuck in a corner with horible choices. Im glad he was able to speak against quackity when quackity wanted to execute ranboo. Tubbo needs to learn to speak more despite wut Others think. Other wise he will deal with the consequences of others. He lost so much but he is used to tht.
all in all this season is just a big old miscommunication :)
Thts my neutral view
My unneutral view
Fuk wut the fuck
Why r the adults blaming childre! N yea ik y n yea kids need to learn but wtf man!! This r kids who r just as traumatised n also thy need actual help. I enjoy eret n hbomb for just saying i just dont care or lets try to find neutral aspect
Also thank god badlands didnt fukin join tht mess
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megablade · 3 years
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ok so i love (!!) the direction quackity is taking with his character with the whole corruption arc and sympathy for the devil stuff but
at the same time it sucks to see some people taking c!quackity’s current actions to reaffirm the idea that he was “always a villain." because when he was trying to do everything right and see the best in people and chase justice, he was still seen as a villain by a lot of the fandom just because he ran against wilbur and tommy in the elections.
i’ve seen plenty of art depicting him taking joy in this tubbo’s execution by schlatt’s side, plenty of people thinking he still wants to execute ranboo, plenty of posts saying that he never struggled (my personal favorite, someone said that dream was more justified than quackity in his wrongdoings because he suffered in prison, while the only thing quackity ever went through was not getting invited to kinoko kingdom. i will Scream).
and now that he is actively doing things in the wrong, there are so many takes saying that’s how he’s always been since the beginning of the smp. that’s confirmation bias at its finest, i suppose
like im not a c!quackity apologist anymore, but if i see enough bad takes, i might regress back into one out of Pure Spite /j
of course, there are bad takes for all of the dsmp characters out there. but the whole point of "sympathy for the devil" rests on the idea that there is sympathy to begin with. and quackity’s storytelling has been extremely effective in creating that sympathy! so it’s a bit odd to me when people ignore canon to stay unsympathetic for his character in particular
you put it very nicely !! it's very surprising how many people are making analysis posts about quackity's character without having properly seen his earlier vods, because if the first few quackity lore streams you've properly seen is the las nevadas series, your perception of his character is going to be way skewed in comparison, so those are very bold moves, haha c!quackity's always been a morally gray character: it's easy to view him as someone who craves power, because it's true! his aspirations have repeatedly been kicked down and he's been treated like an outsider all throughout l'manberg and even manberg when he was working under schlatt's administration, and his solution to this was to finally get enough power that he wouldn’t get stepped over anymore. but i think that's the beauty of how his character was written, because even considering how most of his arcs are centered around wanting to get authority & power, quackity never cast aside his empathy for the places & people he cared about (although this has recently become debatable, i won't get into it now):
he refused to leave manberg because of his attachment to the country
but his breaking point was schlatt taking down the white house because it was the last good memory he had with tommy and wilbur
he resigned from new l'manberg because tubbo's ideals didn't match what quackity thought was right for the nation - but even then, they did not part of bad terms, with quackity giving tubbo his last pep talk
he came to fight for new l'manberg again on doomsday despite knowing that their chances of victory were small: he chose l'manberg and its people over and over and over again and he still lost it all - to the man that quackity thinks is the root of all problems: dream.
i feel like that’s why there are as many people who sympathize with him as there are—or at least understand his state of mind, if not sympathize.
and on the other hand, for the people who don’t sympathize, it’s weird to see how they decide to have collective amnesia for every arc before the disc confrontation when analyzing him but like you said, there are always going to be bad takes in fandom slkjfgf
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TALK ABOUT AMERICAN HEALTHCARE I HAVE AN IDEA OF WHY IT'S THERE BUT I WANNA HEAR THE EXPLANATION ALSO THE ONLY HOUSE THAT"S NOT ON FIRE (YET) FOR THE SAME REASON I JUST WANNA SEE THE ANALYSIS:TM: IF U WANT I WANNA SEE IF I GOT IT RIGHT :D
Hi :DDD. Thank u for asking,,,, I have many thoughts. I am sorry in advance. This is one of those things I will put under a readmore because I am into rambling. IT GOT A LOT LONGER THAN ANTICIPATED IM SORRY. Like. a lot. It was 4 pages in google docs because i dont trust tumblr to save my drafts
Okay a lot of my Ranboo thoughts are about the syndicate / boreal trio / peerpressure duo. But you’re probably aware I am a Them enthusiast first and both a dsmp enjoyer and person second. Because. I really like the syndicate. I also don’t have too too many thoughts on the more recent lore past the experiments. Once the in character monologues stopped, so did my brain. I communicate through monologue to monologue communication.
American Healthcare is actually gonna be the main reason why this is so long bc it works Very Much for like three different reasons. One sorta niche and abstracter reason is a stream that was basically never elaborated on back in March, either the day after or very close to the peerpressure Egg confrontation stream. The egg called him a coward (for some reason my brain can Only come up with the “stop saying i look like chicken little. he’s dumb, and a coward, and i am NOT a coward” vine), and he is not a coward, so he decided to make an action plan to bring the server together by acting as a mediator for all parties and try to make sure that everyone is happy, because he’s the only one that can see all sides, or something. This was where he said the big happy family™ line but other than Ranboo Become Dream?? analysis nothing else really happened and everything went along as normal.
(I also always held a little bit of suspicion on this stream actually and thought it might be the influence of the egg, because it says it can give one whatever they want, and ranboo wants to make everyone happy and this was a totally foolproof way of doing that. Sort of in a similar way that BBH is convinced that his plan will totally make Skeppy happy. But also Ranboo is just like that, but this felt a little more on the nose than usual and he did fall into the egg and made his decisions after being egged on by it, buT WE’LL NEVER KNOW, WILL WE?
… also I really wanted to see more egg conflict at the time. Peerpressure rlly got involved in the egg plot for cameos at the banquet and nothing else. I do not blame anyone and respect the ccs for all of their attempts to weave plots together but also. also…. we.. we coulda had so much…)
That was a little off topic from the point, but… he really just thinks he can save the sick… he can see that everyone on the server is unwell and is wrong but, y’know, look inwardly, the unwell is coming from inside the house. And an inherent problem of the way that the server runs. And if this is still lowkey in effect or not (idk man a) ranboo has monologued a lot I simply chose a one off from march to grow emotionally attached to and b) i think that my brain has shut off once ranboo stopped solo lore streams), it would probably go the way that most choosing to change the system from the inside goes. Which is the point of the song and stuff! He will inevitably decide what’s too far, whether he will either admit it’s a choice or just feel that it’s what he has to do. The, uh, dealing with the devil, to be polite.
in conclusion (but we are not close to done here i’m holding you for a bit longer), i think a lot about that stream and i think that shows what he wants to be, at the very least, and continuing down that path would definitely go into being far more trouble than just a noble goal of wanting to help people, from negotiating with corruption (The lobbyists, the Congressmen and lies bit) and that the server can’t really be brought together and saved like that (When things are more and more this way / Sometimes it's like they'd rather die)
THE LESS. vwoop why have you written an unnecessarily long post about one stream in your playlist character analysis reason is both more literal and piece by piece and also Syndicate, My Beloved, you know the drill. We are going line by line because I have a lot of feelings about American Healthcare, apparently.
This also comes back to that everyone on the server is doing Really Badly, all of the time, but mostly his time in L’Manburg. For one, he is pretty complacent in everything and doesn’t really accomplish much in terms of actual change, so like Well people die every day / I wouldn't have it any other way / I just think they should feel good while they are alive. An example of this is Exiled Tommy — who I’d also metaphorically put as the dead man just for funsies, since Tommy’s whole exile thing was one of the first things Ranboo experienced on the server—as he did try to be friends with Tommy and keep him company with his letters, but he still has no power over the actual issue at hand. Just trying to make it a bit more bearable. Similarly is Techno, while Ranboo still participated in the butcher army that was trying to kill him, he helped in the meantime until he “died”.
And then it’s the Realization that participating in the system doesn’t really help much, and the subsequent Everything. It could be getting mad at the whole government system and that he didn’t mean to contribute to the harm, or how he fought with Fundy using hs ideology but not in the way that Ranboo thought. It could also be standing up to his hallucination Dream, in that he doesn’t try this hard to be a good person just to be accused of helping with all of the things that he may or may not have helped with. (That is… a discussion for not right now, I don’t know.) And I think this sort of area is also where it’s like they’d rather die is also relevant, cause Doomsday. Nobody could just set aside their governments and just get along, though Ranboo had his own solution to fighting and things.
And then he joins the Syndicate! And the lyrics of the song are directly Government Bad, because government bad. Canon anarchist, has done things that he’s not proud of as a part of the government. The lines it was the government / … It got louder over the years / Until all that I could hear was flies and all.
But honestly I think in the Syndicate he’s still trying to “save the sick”! Because the Syndicate don’t All fit eye to eye either. He’s the token pacifist, and a vote against violence whenever it comes down to it. Not all anarchists are violent but Techno and Phil will probably react strongly when provoked, due to All the past events, and I live in a world where their trauma and issues get talked about as much as everyone else’s. Since everything is decided by vote it’d probably be split between them and Ranboo + Niki, who is in her healing/no longer resorting to murder arc. He’ll help them negotiate and then everything will Be Okay, ideally.
(Also I just like the idea of Ranboo believing that he is helping the people he’s living with because canonically cc!Ranboo has said he just really cares about his family and the syndicate are included in his family shut up but they also just believe they’re helping him and yes it’s self indulgent. I care them. Particularly Endduo, actually, or whatever they're called, I am not bold enough to think Ranboo looks at Techno and thinks I Can Fix Him, but. Philza Minecraft will one day talk about his feelings. One day.)
There’s also radioduo and beeduo as of recent— really I’m just saying I think that Ranboo constantly has a Need To Help People, believes he can do it, and it will come back to hurt him in the end (except for the Syndicate because I’m in denial. The Syndicate can’t fall out if they never stream together :) ).
THIS CONCLUDES THE AMERICAN HEALTHCARE PORTION OF OUR SHOW.
The Only House That’s Not on Fire Yet !! I like this one. This is also blatantly there cause Syndicate. They are the only faction that is not actively falling apart, and this could absolutely be because they never stream together. But I do not care. However we are also going to go through this one piece by piece because we’re nearing 1500 words here and I might as well embarrass myself more. I am writing an incredibly informal essay about Ranboo My _Beloved (i assume his middle name is My, and he’s just one of those people who write his full full name) and this is the third page. If you’re still reading this, I’m sorry. Here we go.
There are lines that just seem like an unwell but recovering person, and I like to sort of think that way about Ranboo in the arctic during the down time. “I feel knotted up today / But in a most exquisite way” and “I feel strangely regular / But honestly I prefer it to / The usual bizarre” are just! He’s just hanging out. He’s doing good. There is the acknowledgement that he’s usually not doing well, and all of the episodes that he’s had in the past, and it’s probably strange to be doing well in the midst of everything, and there’s probably something impending, but now? He’s doing good!
The verses directly after both of those ones are about uncertainty and trust and such, and I feel like that’s not necessarily about just One relationship but all of them. Will cause problems as long as he has an accomplice. He is not confident but he trusts and loves people.
“This suit doesn’t fit me / I made it conterfeitly” I just like to think about Ranboo in his fancy suit, but it’s just a little wrong because he actually has no idea what he’s doing. I also like to think about Ranboo in a cape to fit in with boreal trio and later the syndicate, and emerald duo had matchy blue outfits from the Antarctic Empire… and trying to fit in with them…. or maybe They make him something.. You know. Much to think about.
“Killing me with déjà vu” I think is like. A little less fun, because despite how well things are going, the enderwalk is still not resolved and he had even less answers when I started thinking “this is a ranboo song”. Just as it relates to having a strange sense of reality and stuff, which goes into specifics of enderwalk headcanons, which would make this far longer. Even though I’ve framed it as a negative, there is also the more positive note of “Oh! I just thought of how to change all the hate / Into love with the old switcheroo / Dancing in my déjà vu / You'll be dancing too” which I’d rather explain broken up but I feel like as it’s a full verse it should be together. The first part is connected to my general thoughts of him explained earlier tbh, he’s trying Very Hard to make everyone happy and fix things. And adding the second part to it is just like! He is trying to make sense of everything, and it’s not so scary as time goes by. Since the experiments where he’s been (questionably) trying to be more comfortable and get more answers.
This was very long. I am sorry. I am ending it here and probably not going to do much formatting to make it readable because it is very late o’clock and also this is four pages and 2000 words I am so sorry. But if you read this far then. Uhhh thank. ^v^.
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I think what hurts the most about the tommy betrayal (from technos perspective, okay, relax tumblr dont come at me someone can make you feel betrayed without actually betraying you. they're called emotions they dont follow logic, look it up. relax) is that techno literally had just admitted like a couple days before that tommy was a friend. like, shit buddy, I wouldn't wanna befriend ranboo either if the second Im like hey we could be bros that person left me for the person that exiled him.
like, techno said he didn't have to be involved! and I doubt he would've been quite so extreme without the betrayal (but thats a whooole different post). like, hes not the kind of person to make you fight if you dont want to (look at the syndicate rules yall)
but man. doesn't it hurt to be betrayed by someone you thought was a friend and you go and look over your experiences wondering where you went wrong but that feeling of betrayal seeps into your memories, staining it a dark grey, and the emotions twists it so that you no longer felt like it was a friendship at all, you were just being used? and because its your memory you wonder if thats how it was all along??
(side note, memories change when you recall them so @ all the people who are like "tommy DID treat him as a friend!1!" being betrayed made it seem like it wasn't whether that statement is true or not!)
just. damn. techno, baby, you have so many trust issues, this is why I relate to you so much -tiny
Technoblade's like. Trust issues and how he feels around tommy's betrayal gets me So hard sometimes aka all the time. Because like damb holy Fuck thats good writing. And also how its seen n argued against is wild
Like he was Definitely betrayed. He Absolutely cared about tommy. And he Didnt Manipulate him. Entirely from techno's point of view, tommy had gotten close to him to the point he genuinely admitted to him that he was a friend of his and then tommy the Next day chose tubbo and therefore lmanberg over techno, taking his kindness and using it against him and leaving him. Alone.
I remember when techno said something like 'i gave you a choice to sit this one out not switch sides' because. Like. A lot of times i see it all 'techno was gon use tommy against tubbo/was manipulating him into thinking like him' which jus isnt true. Techno cares about Choices. Hes an anarchist ffs. He gave tommy the chance to help him destroy lmanberg, but he had also Straight Up Said he didnt have to. He wouldve let him stay behind and stay out of the conflict. So from his view, tommy instead did the Opposite. He got Into the conflict Against techno.
Like you said i Definitely think techno's pursuit to destroy lmanberg So Harshly was influenced by being hurt. Specifically i recall how dream instantly offered to blow up lmanberg and right away techno like. Straight up he wanted to spawn withers and do it Right Then. Technos a calculating guy he overprepares for Everything. But in that scene, where he was surrounded by enemies with No additional gear like totems or potions or even his withers, he wanted to charge in and Blow It All Up. I dont doubt he acted emotionally there
But it like. It all jus makes sense? In terms of how his trust issues manifest now with ranboo. Theyre Definitely getting somewhere (altho ill be honest i cant tell how much is canon n jus those guys havin a funky good time sometimes hskdvd) but hes still closed off. The syndicate really captures that
Like. Phil has a point that theres little downside to ranboo joining the syndicate. He's right there and with some explaination i feel it would align perfectly with his own ideals. Not to mention that like. Although its 'secret', techno has been open to inviting and talking to people whom he has much fewer connections with and trust in.
Although techno saying that ranboo was 'weird' was a goof, his insistence that ranboo's memory Could be a liability has some truth to it. But honestly its entirely a deflection. He doesnt want to open up to ranboo and trust him.
I like. Techno probably looks back at the parallels of tommy being alone, hunkering in his base, and being Close with ranboo's actions. And considering he got so hurt from tommy's betrayal, anything tommy did is probably spoiled now. Its hard to look on fond memories w someone when they hurt you like that like u said.
Im emotional about techno's trust issues n jus. His whole character and also How Hes regarded by fans. The guy gets such a tough break bdkdhskddbskdh like i cant see him interact with ranboo without some ideas that hes Manipulating Him. Techno isnt a bad guy hes jus a lil fucked up
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