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odinsblog · 7 months
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I love videos like this.
It’s sO easy to hold a dog’s complete attention with a little ball, and they are so confused when it disappears. It always makes me smile when they (always and predictably) start looking for the ball. The dogs are like, “Did- guys did you see that shit?? where the fuck did the ball go?” And then they immediately split up into teams to search for it. LMAO. It’s like a magic show for them and an experiment of their understanding of object permanence for us.
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A taxonomy of corporate bullshit
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Next Tuesday (Oct 31) at 10hPT, the Internet Archive is livestreaming my presentation on my recent book, The Internet Con.
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There are six lies that corporations have told since time immemorial, and Nick Hanauer, Joan Walsh and Donald Cohen's new book Corporate Bullsht: Exposing the Lies and Half-Truths That Protect Profit, Power, and Wealth in America* provides an essential taxonomy of this dirty six:
https://thenewpress.com/books/corporate-bullsht
In his review for The American Prospect, David Dayen summarizes how these six lies "offer a civic-minded, reasonable-sounding justification for positions that in fact are motivated entirely by self-interest":
https://prospect.org/culture/books/2023-10-27-lies-my-corporation-told-me-hanauer-walsh-cohen-review/
I. Pure denial
As far back as the slave trade, corporate apologists and mouthpieces have led by asserting that true things are false, and vice-versa. In 1837, John Calhoun asserted that "Never before has the black race of Central Africa, from the dawn of history to the present day, attained a condition so civilized and so improved, not only physically, but morally and intellectually." George Fitzhugh called enslaved Africans in America "the freest people in the world."
This tactic never went away. Children sent to work in factories are "perfectly happy." Polluted water is "purer than the water that came from the river before we used it." Poor families "don't really exist." Pesticides don't lead to "illness or death." Climate change is "beneficial." Lead "helps guard your health."
II. Markets can solve problems, governments can't
Alan Greenspan made a career out of blithely asserting that markets self-correct. It was only after the world economy imploded in 2008 that he admitted that his doctrine had a "flaw":
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/greenspan-admits-flaw-to-congress-predicts-more-economic-problems
No matter how serious a problem is, the market will fix it. In 1973, the US Chamber of Commerce railed against safety regulations, because "safety is good business," and could be left to the market. If unsafe products persist in the market, it's because consumers choose to trade safety off "for a lower price tag" (Chamber spox Laurence Kraus). Racism can't be corrected with anti-discrimination laws. It's only when "the market" realizes that racism is bad for business that it will finally be abolished.
III. Consumers and workers are to blame
In 1946, the National Coal Association blamed rampant deaths and maimings in the country's coal-mines on "carelessness on the part of men." In 2003, the National Restaurant Association sang the same tune, condemning nutritional labels because "there are not good or bad foods. There are good and bad diets." Reagan's interior secretary Donald Hodel counseled personal responsibility to address a thinning ozone layer: "people who don’t stand out in the sun—it doesn’t affect them."
IV. Government cures are always worse than the disease
Lee Iacocca called 1970's Clean Air Act "a threat to the entire American economy and to every person in America." Every labor and consumer protection before and since has been damned as a plague on American jobs and prosperity. The incentive to work can't survive Social Security, welfare or unemployment insurance. Minimum wages kill jobs, etc etc.
V. Helping people only hurts them
Medicare will "destroy private initiative for our aged to protect themselves with insurance" (Republican Senator Milward Simpson, 1965). Covid relief is unfair to people that are currently in the workforce" (Republican Governor Brian Kemp, 2021). Welfare produces "learned helplessness."
VI. Everyone who disagrees with me is a socialist
Grover Cleveland's 2% on top incomes is "communistic warfare against rights of property" (NY Tribune, 1895). "Socialized medicine" will leave "our children and our children’s children [asking] what it once was like in America when men were free" (Reagan, 1961).
Everything is "socialism": anti-child labor laws, Social Security, minimum wages, family and medical leave. Even fascism is socialism! In 1938, the National Association of Manufacturers called labor rights "communism, bolshevism, fascism, and Nazism."
As Dayen says, it's refreshing to see how the right hasn't had an original idea in 150 years, and simply relies on repeating the same nonsense with minor updates. Right wing ideological innovation consists of finding new ways to say, "actually, your boss is right."
The left's great curse is object permanence: the ability to remember things, like the fact that it used to be possible for a worker to support a family of five on a single income, or that the economy once experienced decades of growth with a 90%+ top rate of income tax (other things the left manages to remember: the "intelligence community" are sociopathic monsters, not Trump-slaying heroes).
When the business lobby rails against long-overdue antitrust action against Amazon and Google, object permanence puts it all in perspective. The talking points about this being job-destroying socialism are the same warmed-over nonsense used to defend rail-barons and Rockefeller. "If you don't like it, shop elsewhere," has been the corporate apologist's line since slavery times.
As Dayen says, Corporate Bullshit is a "reference book for conservative debating points, in an attempt to rob them of their rhetorical power." It will be out on Halloween:
https://bookshop.org/a/54985/9781620977514
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If you'd like an essay-formatted version of this post to read or share, here's a link to it on pluralistic.net, my surveillance-free, ad-free, tracker-free blog:
https://pluralistic.net/2023/10/27/six-sells/#youre-holding-it-wrong
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accidentalslayer · 6 months
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bethanydelleman · 3 months
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I was doing my little game where I would say my son had disappeared as I attempted to take of his sweater. But no more! My four year old just eloquantly explained the concept of object permanence to me in such a condescending tone
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clusterblood · 4 months
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having personality disorders is sooo funny couse if I have at least two hours of feeling great, I forget I have em
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having adhd (or just generally being forgetful) is so fucking frustrating because you’ll lose something you literally just had in your hand and then proceed to go on a 45 minute quest to find said lost thing. meanwhile, you’re both the detective and the suspect, just trying to follow clues and patterns that make no sense. i’ll lose something, then grab my brain by the collar and go, “where tf is my charger. u just had it”. and my brain will just be like:
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Today's Disability Pride month post
Object permanence
I see this one misunderstood a lot because people think of it in the context of babies. But ADHD object permanence is different from baby object permanence.
What is it?
So remember yesterday when I said if I get a planner to manage my time blindness, I forget it exists? So in the context of babies it's "If you put the planner in the box, the baby thinks the planner is gone." But in the context of ADHD it's "I put my planner away in a drawer. My brain is actively thinking about something else. That planner is GONE to me. But if in 5 days my friend is "I'll write this in my planner." I'll be like "Shit. My planner is still in that drawer." It's not that I forget that the planner exists. The idea of planners ever existing at all completely escapes my mind. (Okay but if it's hidden in that drawer for 5 years I will probably forget that I even bought it).
How do you manage it?
Honestly. I really don't fucking know. I try to not keep things out of site. Out of site out of mind. If it's something like "I need my computer to work." Then it can be put away. Because the idea of needing a computer will remind me that I have one. But if it's "I bought this pretty necklace". I need to store it out in the open otherwise I'll forget I have it because I don't NEED it.
If you store everything out in the open, won't it collect dust...
Yeah... listen. I don't know what you want me to say here. If I don't see it I forget it exists. I just found a pair of headphones the other day that I didn't even know I had, which was really annoying because I really needed a pair of headphones. If you got any tips and tricks let me know.
I still have a whiteboard I need to put up because I keep forgetting I have it. I also have a binder I need to organize my important information in but I keep forgetting to do that because I keep forgetting I have it. And I have weights I keep stubbing my toe on because if they get put away I'll forget I have them and my doctor says I need to exercise more.
Wow this is the first time you've raised awareness for a thing and not had advice
Yeah. Because I don't understand how you have all of the things that can possibly exist perfectly organized in your minds. Like how the fuck are you like "Ah shit. I need to wrap this present. I'll use this wrapping paper I bought 3 years ago." It's weird. It's weird and it's creepy that you just remember shit like that.
I was like "I should do some exercises because the doctor said so". And I was doing the exercise like "this would be a better exercise if I had weights." I DID HAVE WEIGHTS. THE ONES I NEEDED WERE RIGHT BY MY FEET. HOW DID I FORGET I HAD THEM.
-fae
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itsaspectrumcomic · 3 months
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Thank you to @holmgren13 aka @BryanBoston10 on twitter for voicing and animating my comic Object Permanence! I love his take on it, it's absolutely hilarious
Original post on Twitter
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spacelazarwolf · 1 year
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hot take but like. i don’t think it’s a big deal for ppl with adhd to use the phrase “object permanence” to describe forgetting things we can’t see. i keep seeing people freak out about this but i have never met a single adhder use this phrase and literally mean that we lack object permanence like infants do. it’s just a group of people using something as a colloquial term to get people to start to understand a phenomenon we experience. we do not literally mean that we literally believe the object does not exist because we can’t see it. genuinely didn’t think this was such a hard concept to understand.
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king-wilhelm · 11 months
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Adhd wheel of fortune 3:
been a while since I did one of these
1. Talking yourself into things you have to do because brain doesn't want to.
2. Not being able to talk yourself out of things you DON'T have to do because brain wants to
3. Brain runs faster than your mouth -> your story has absurd gaps but it makes sense to you -> your friends look at you like you grew a new head
4. Brain won't let you do a thing till you finish the previous thing you were supposed to do but brain also won't let you do the previous thing.
5. One obscure line from one obscure song will not stop looping in my head
6. BRAIN FOG aka s.t.u.c.k. For an indefinite amount of time.
7. Watching a whole movie and not knowing one single thing about it when it's over
8. *finishes 80% of a task* Well NOW I don't care about completing it 😤
9. TIME BLINDNESS!!!!!!!!
10. What the FUCK do you mean by undivided attention?? Wheel of fortune 2 wheel of fortune 1
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highbidontcry · 2 years
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posting as a reminder to myself and maybe you too
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Sorry, I didn't mean to fall off the planet and not talk to you for a billion years, I just have a chronic case of "think about what to say to you so much that I forget I haven't" disease, and also zero concept of the passage of time, so I didn't realize it's been 7-15 business months since I responded to you.
Hope you still love me anyway, because I still love you the same.
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taylortruther · 3 months
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this must be the place (naive melody) by the talking heads / howl by florence + the machine / object permanence by nicole sealey
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autdhd · 2 years
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Honestly, everything makes so much more sense after finding out that object permanence also relates to people.
If I don’t talk to, see or hear someone, I forget they exist. And by forget, I mean they cease to exist. I can live/be in the same house as this person, but my brain just erases them from my mind.
It’s even worse if I can’t see or talk to them in person at all for whatever reason, because I forget they exist. I can go for months with no contact with a person because my brain just erases them. This has made multiple friendships of mine breakdown since they often thought I was no longer interested in being friends and was ignoring them.
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cpericardium · 7 months
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sometimes legend cannot tell the difference between a banana and his foot
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sshtonedseagoat · 11 months
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If you block me because I take too long to text back-
Thank you 🥺 One less person I have to respond to 🤷‍♀️
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