#odaat renewal

[theclaravoyant]

the fact that this is so blatantly a symptom of the current streaming model of tv …. get the new viewers then there’s no need to make the show … I love capitalism

#see also: perpetual growth is not possible and we’re idiots for continuing to seek it as a society #negativity #me? cynical about capitalism? never #literally anyone renew something past s2 challenge #ofmd #our flag means death #see also shadow and bone sense8 odaat etc etc

[kajaono]

OFMD renewal

How recent events turned the tables and made a renewal more likely again

This post is dedicated to David Jenknis who woke up this weekend and choose violence

A few thing happened during the last week. I will go through them Point by point and explain what it means for a OFMD renewal

1. David jenknis tweets.

When he posted those tweets it was obvious that there was still no new contract from HBO max, renewing the show for a new season. A good example to explain it is the Netflix show shadow and bone. Shadow and bone was a hit show on Netflix but for some weird reasons it took Netflix nearly three months to renew the show. We still do not really know why, even though it is usual that Netflix sometimes needs longer to renew shows this took awfully long. Most probably it was a problem with the contracts but I am just guessing here. But why didn’t the fans started a #RenewShadowAndBone campaign? Because when asking the cast and crew if we would get a season 2 they kept silent. This is a good sign. Because it means they are under a new NDA making it impossible to say anything. A creator saying: „we do not know if we will get a new season“ is a bad sign. And NOT a creator lying to make the renewal more of a happy surprise. Look at the fandom, look how they reacted when Jenkins said he doesn’t know if OFMD will be back. This tweet immediately started to trend. Resulting in a wave of tweets adding HBO max, some of them rude of course. You do not do that when you are renewed and can not tell yet. Another good example are ODAAT or The Irregulars (both Netflix shows). Netflix dropped ODAAT without any promo, also resulting in the creator saying that if we want a fourth season the shows needs more views. You also do not do that when your show is renewed. After the show was cancelled she also encouraged the fans to tag other streaming services to help the show get a new home. Sounds familiar? The irregulars also had the actors say: „we do not know if we will get a season 2 but we hope so.“ they show was shortly cancelled after

So Jenkins deleting all the tweets, only leaving the „No ones giving up“ tweet online means something has changed. I just guess here that the instant Twitter storm has encourage HBO max to change their schedule and get in contact with Jenkins faster then they thought they would. That doesn’t mean the show is renewed but they are definitely talking. Because leaving a tweet up where you talk about changing the network is not so good if you are making new negotiations with your streaming service. But it they still aren’t talking you can leave it up. Maybe he put them down himself because he thought the tweets are too much or HBO asked him to. Whatever, it is a good sign

2. less BTS content

I know you all enjoy BTS content and it is fun to see all the glimpse behind the magic but actors posting so much BTS is a horrible sign for a renewal. Because it means their contracts ended and they can - mostly - post everything they want. In contrast: if you are still under a NDA, there are really strict regulations what you can and can not post. F.e. After season 3 of the Witcher started filming Royce Pierreson (the actor of Istredd) posted a short story showing him in a box, surrounded by nearly a 100 cameras, flashing him with light. They story didn’t spoiled anything was taken down really fast again. Same goes for example for Chris Chibnall from Doctor who, who - during a SDCC Twitter takeover - posted a photo of Jodie Whitaker and Alex Kingston with the caption: the doctor and her wife. The tweet was down after one minute. BBC replaced the tweet with a new tweet using the same photo but another caption (source: an interview chibnal gave a while ago. I can dig out out again if you want).

Why? Because those stories and tweets where against the rules of the network. Or look at shadow and bone. The main BTs content we get is from the official Instagram page. The photos we get from the cast is mostly off set. So a cast posting BTS pictures like crazy, showing all the magic is a horrible sign. So the cast stopping to post BTS pics doesn’t mean the are out of content but under new NDAs.

3. official content

As a fan myself I also always enjoy the chaotic BTS content by cast and crew but what we want now is official content! Aarons photos are approved BTS photos. Same goes for the question video Rhys and Taika took part in. HBO delivering this content is a good sign. HBO now taking care of the content instead of the cast is what makes a renewal more likely. But we should be careful with that. For the irregulars, Netflix also had an Instagram account they put a lot of dedication into it. They posted all the content, shut the account down and cancelled the show. So posting content is =/= a renewal but content hyping the fans up is good!

4. the show being highest in demand for five weeks

HBO max is a really new channel, not establish in every country yet and already suffering from a merge. What they need is show that binds viewers. OFMD is hardly suited to be cool edgy brand like GOT or Euphoria and it will never be. Nevertheless people want another season like crazy. Such a high demand for a show that is not even aired in most of the world? HBO knows most of us are watching it illegally. But they are used to it. The finale GOT season was the most illegal streamed show ever. They used that for their marketing. Because it shows that the content is desired. And HBO max is still to be rolled out in other countries. So putting a show up there which is wanted (and already watched) in most of the world is good for them. They instantly have something to promote the channel with. And as bonus, we are doing the free advertisement with all our posts and artworks. There was the same situation for Miss Sherlock which also aired on HBO (HBO Asia). HBO Asia even made a Twitter video saying: we now added Miss Sherlock on HBO international. So please no illegal streaming anymore. Okay? 😉“ they also picked up on the Johnlock tag #watolock. That shows that they have a really good social media team which is really aware if everything going on. Miss Sherlock was cancelled nevertheless, but the show was closed in the first season and today I would assume it was because of Yukos mental health. RIP.

Or look at Paramount+ which keeps on greenlightning seasons for Star Trek discovery even though season 1 heavily suffered. Why? Because they needed (and still need) content for their streaming service. HBO max is young. They need content and viewers

Edit: as a bonus a official HBO interacted with that tweet. Giving us even more official HBO tweets about OFMD in the last week

5. Jenkins saying he thinks the show can be closed in three seasons

I know this interview is from March but What Jenkins did here was really clever. He straight up said HBO his conditions here.

We all want more seasons and I deeply miss the time where we got 22 eps per seasons, but Jenkins set up a really realistic frame here. I have a slight feeling, that if we get a renewal it will be like Sandition where Season 2 and 3 where announced at the same time. And HBO max also know it works. Two more seasons. If they are filmed back to back that means three more years if content. Perfect for HBO max. Not too much but also not too little

6. this tweet I found and interacted with on Twitter

This is good sign. Like I already said: HBO max is new. They can not cancel shows like crazy like Netflix does. HBO max needs the content. So your show has to perform really bad to get cancelled. We do not have the insights but OFMD is doing the exact opposite. It is performing really good. And for after the merge, and possible changes on the website, they need a high demand content so people stick around. Which will be if course euphoria and maybe OFMD

Bonus: 6. HBO added official verified OFMD on twitter to use

Just recently, this weekend HBO added official HBO max verified gifs to use on twitter. You can see the logo. This is also a good sign, because they told an employee to use his/her paied time for OFMD.

So i can not say if a renewal is near or not but those are the signs you should pay attention to.

#ofmd #renew our flag means death #our flag means death #blackbonnet

[mysadcomedylife]

i'm not gonna lie and say that i am hopeful that some other network could pick up the show and produce another season or whatever like happened many times before with lucifer b99 manifest wynonna odaat and shit.

no i am not hopeful I'm way far from that actually. all i feel now is pain and disgust, especially knowing they didn't have the intention to renew it in the first place, they just cancelled like it was nothing and it didn't mean nothing to anybody.

i keep thinking about the cast, especially simon and the room writers. this show was his baby, you could see and FEEL how much love he put into it, how much he cares about his audience. HOW MUCH HE LOVES WORKING HARD IN THIS SHOW. me in his place i would be completely wrecked, way more than i am now.

i keep thinking about Alba, she had a horrible past few weeks i can't even imagine the pain she went through and now this. she came back to twitter just to leave a little message for us, she didn't have to do that because we all understand if she didn't say nothing about it, but she did. And KTY, this girl woke up one day and decided to do all the promotion work, she went herself to find people to do interviews, she started the fight. this is how much she cares. all of this cast man 😭 they really care about this show, is something just as special for them as it is for us. they don't deserve this treatment from that company. that company should be thanking them. it's just an infuriating situation, the more i think about the more my heart breaks for it.

so no, right now i can't be hopeful or positive about anything. I need time, we spent days and nights fighting and it all meant nothing. i will probably take a time off, try to process this. I've never felt so much pain in my life because of a tv show, this was worse than Lexa, worse than Killing Eve finale, worse than anything.

#warrior nun #fuck you netflix #avatrice #i needed to let this out I'm sorry

[lupesalvarez]

happy to see a odaat blog still active considering the shows over💖 rewatching it rn and remembering how much i loved it!!! such a shame it couldn’t continue on poptv

Thank you I try ❤️

Sucks that COVID stole half of their season but I don't think they would have been renewed.

I'm definitely due for a rewatch soon.

#anonymous #answered

[g4l-p4ls]

❗️URGENT INFO ABOUT ODAAT ❗️

Gloria, one of the writers/producers tweeted last night that it's not looking good for a renewal. Please help spread the word to anyone you know to watch episodes 5 & 6 LIVE on cbs. If we can get a boost in views for those two episodes we might have a better chance to keep ODAAT and get it renewed! Also, on Friday (tomorrow) help trend #WeWantMoreODAAT on Twitter. Episodes 5&6 air on CBS at 10&10:30pm EST on October 26! SPREAD THE WORD!!!

#earpers on twitter have begun to help out so if earpers on tumblr could join in that would be amazing #ODAAT #odaat spoilers #odaat season 4 #odaat pop tv #ODAAT CBS #one day at a time season 4 #one day at a time #odaatedit #odaat renewal #wynonna earp spoilers #wynonna earp #earpers #elena x syd #elena alvarez #odaat cast

[one-hundred-small-pineapples]

I saw something that said Netflix cancelled Julie and the Phantoms cause it didn’t reach its target audience.

So?

Okay, it didn’t reach the young children it was meant to reach. But it reached the teenagers, and the young adults, and the older adults. It reached so many people. It impacted so many people.

It meant something to so many people.

And what about those kids it did reach? And everyone else? What about the people who saw Julie grieve and celebrate her mother through their shared passion and felt strong enough to do just that for their own lost loved ones? What about the people who saw Alex and Willie’s relationship grow and imagined, maybe for the first time, that they could have something like that?

What about the people who saw Luke’s relationship with his mother and understood just a little more than everyone else when Luke said it was his only regret? What about the people who heard that little line about Reggie’s parents and felt it on the deepest level?

What about the people who saw Flynn and Julie’s, and Alex and Luke and Reggie’s, beautiful friendships? Hell, what about all the little boys who saw Carlos stand up for and protect and care about and love his big sister? And Ray powering through the loss of his wife for his children? Adjusting to being a single father, because even with the help of Tia he was still a single father.

What happens to the people that felt represented and seen through the things Julie showed, now that you’ve taken that away from them?

#fuck you netflix #jatp #julie and the phantoms #I’m still pissed #furious #find all the petitions and sign all of them #it’s fucking odaat all over again #a show that has good rep and tackles serious issues #and you fucking cancel it to make shows abt the hype house #and renew shows that nobody wants to fucking watch #no unfinished business

[one-day-at-a-timeblog]

I miss Odaat so much 🥺 last night I was looking on Twitter and seeing people ask if more episodes were coming. I wish there were!

#odaat season 4 #odaat #one day at a time #renew odaat

[daisyvie]

"i got you"

#one day at a time #odaat #save odaat #odaat edit #one day at a time edit #ronnie #renew odaat #daisyvie

[kajaono]

Because some people have asking me when I think OFMD will be renewed or picked up by another streaming service. That is actually hard to tell so I want to give a few examples

1. I do not know if HBO gives away their shows to other networks. I made a quick google check but couldn’t find one. So I would be happy about a Feedback if you know one

2. sense8 was cancelled and picked up one month later. But this show had the advantage that it was around for already three years, so it had a dedicated fanbase which knew eachother in person and was really well organized. Also it was the first time Netflix was confronted with such a major protest. We had letters, videos which even one of the actors took part in, mailing, we phoned Netflix etc.

2. B99 was picked up by NBC after one day. But this was an expectation. Just ignore that

3. ODAAT was picked up after three or four months by Pop Tv. That was one of the rare examples where Netflix gave away one of their shows. But that was understandable because it was sitcom. (Considering that OFMD is a cheap produced mostly improvised costume play it can also be produced „everywhere“ and „easily“ gave away… if HBO wants)

4. Sandition was cancelled by Prime. The fanbase was really dedicated and well organized even though they also where only around for one season. They managed to get a second and third season… after TWO Years

5. Veronica Mars was cancelled after three seasons in 2007. the fans eventually managed to get a movie… after SEVEN years

6. Dirk gently was cancelled after season 2. the show was never picked up by anyone. The creator is appearently working on an animated show but we haven’t got any news in a long time

7. MFMM was finished in three seasons in 2015. the ending was kinda open for the main romantic couple. With a kickstarter they managed to collect 600.000 Australien dollar and where able to make a movie in 2020. so a FIVE years wait

8. Shadowhunters was cancelled after three Season and got two extra episodes from Netflix to close the story. The show was never picked up even though the fans were really REALLY dedicated and did everything possible. We got a podcast and a BTS book by the headwriter eventually

So OFMD has a higher chance to get renewed because it is not closed yet. How long it will take and by whom is hard to say. Also because of the merge.

Right now it is important that we keep on streaming and keep on being loud and tagging HBO max

#ofmd #blackbonnet #our flag means death #renew our flag means death #renew ofmd

[thesunsethour]

i’m heartbroken

#one day at a time #odaat #netflix #renew odaat #renew one day at a time

[ginas-opinion]

so ODAAT’s been cancelled again 😭

#one day at a time #renew one day at a time #save odaat #the old tag flies again #pls stop doing this tv network ppl #why don’t you understand that odaat is an amazing studio and has a strong international fan base!!! #becky talks #but sadly

[actuallylorelaigilmore]

THANK YOU ONE DAY AT A TIME FOR 3 YEARS FULL OF LIFE AND LOVE [x]

#i hope it finds a new home but whether it does or not...it's so important to me #fun fact: i was up until 5am making this to share either in celebration of a renewal or in thanks in spite of a cancellation #so i slept til noon and was like the last person to hear the news #one day at a time #odaat #penelope alvarez #elena alvarez #lydia riera #schneider #alex alvarez #leslie berkowitz #one day at a time edit #odaat edit #penelope alvarez edit #elena alvarez edit #schneider edit #leslie berkowitz edit #lydia riera edit #alex alvarez edit #my edit

[snowoiive]

shipuary day three: SYLENA

#they're so... soft...... #im so happy odaat got renewed #im ready for more of THEM #i love my happy babies #meendoodles #art #artists on tumblr #digital art #clip studio paint #sylena #odaat #one day at a time #elena alvarez #syd #elena x syd #wlw #odaat fanart

[maybeicanbesaved]

Netflix likes to cancel and blame us for “not enough people watching” when they blatantly choose not to promote/advertise/hype up shows like ODaaT and Sense8 and The Get Down, etc, meanwhile I can’t go on anything without seeing shit about 13*rw , which didn’t need a first season let alone a fucking second

Not to mention there always seems to be a LARGE group of fans for ODaaT and Sense8 and even Shadowhunters....??

@ Netflix just admit you’re trash and don’t give a fuck about your viewers or diversity or LGBTQ etc

#no i wont take criticism #i dont wanna hear it #im pissed #odaat #one day at a time #save odaat #renew odaat #sense8 #the get down #shadowhunters #jessica jones #luke cage #daredevil #iron fist #the punisher #the defenders #marvel #mcu #netflix #personal #my shit #my popular posts #1k #2k #3k #4k #5k #6k #7k #8k

[heretocrioverfiction]

I feel like Netflix has a problem with shows that highlight social issues and are really amazing because of that.

They cancelled one day at a time. And we all know how much issues it highlighted. They cancelled Anne with an e which is the ultimate feminist show and countless other diverse shows. They really have a problem and then they go and post about black lives matter. Like ok chill we know you lying you don't really mean that. If you did you wouldn't have cancelled shows that actively stand against racism.

#netflix #one day at a time #odaat #anne with an e #sexism #racism #black lives matter #netflix has a problem #renew anne with an e #save anne with an e