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ineffectualdemon · 7 months

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I can't find the post (ETA: @furbygoblinxiv found the post! It's here) there is one going around about how no, Shen Qingqiu wouldn't have become Shen Jiu if he was transmigrated into a child. Because has the memories and mindset of someone born into privilege

From what I understood its not that privilege means happiness and success it just means you haven't been ground down by the system in the same way and have a certain knowledge of how to grease the wheels and network and work the system. Especially in Shen Yuan's case as he read the freaking book

And that the parallels between Luo Binghe and Shen Jiu start not with child abuse but with the fact that they both started with less than nothing living on the streets (a theme in MXTX's work tbh)

So Bingqiu's misunderstanding in a lot of ways is rooted in someone who grew up in relative privilege and wealth not being able to understand the perspective of someone who has grown up in poverty (taken to extremes of course and mixed with other trauma)

Part of the reason Luo Binghe does things the way he does is he's trying enter the world of wealth and class above him and is constantly made to feel like that desperate child on the streets again. Shen Qingqiu makes him feel like that even after the transmigration but it's worse because Shen Yuan isn't even doing it on purpose. He just doesn't realise until too late what his actions do to Binghe

And I just find it interesting that in less extreme way we also have that with Moshang and the baseline ship of Cumplane

Mobei doesn't have a great home life (and I would argue there is very little reason to believe Shen Yuan had one either) but he's rich and he's powerful and he's spoiled. Able to have whatever he wants when he wants it. He doesn't realise the cultural differences and that he's hurting Shang Qinghua until it's far too late

And Peerless Cucumber absolutely treats Airplane like shit. The "were you not hugged as a child" line always infuriates me because it's very clear he wasn't. I don't think airplane was a poor a child as Shen Jiu and Luo Binghe but I believe that while supporting himself with his writing and especially before PIDW popped off there was a lot of not knowing when he'd next get to eat. He has experienced poverty and is always on guard against it. We get at least two different mentions of him squirreling away money for just in case

I just think it's really interesting how the couples reflect each other

#svsss #bingqiu #moshang #cumplane #svsss meta #if anyone can link the og post please do and i'll add it #shen qingqiu #luo binghe #shen jiu #shang qinghua #mobei jun

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undertheredhood · 2 months

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shen jiu after witnessing bingyuan being bingyuan: i quickly became homophobic. hating on gay people became a part of my lifestyle.

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binghe-malewife-goals · 9 months

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Can't remember if I ever shared this here, but since I'm going through binghe withdrawal I was looking back at my gallery and found this bingy who @alur-chip so graciously let me color n line 🥺 <3

#svsss #luo binghe #bingqiu #i believe the sketch was for a bq week drawing #mai if u see this ilu we're kissing on the mouth i will see you at 9 for our dinner date #[SLAPS THIS BAD BOY] pls remember i only lined and colored this. the og sketch was by chip 🥺 follow them 🔫

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gatoebean · 1 year

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Your Face in a Crowd - ForgottenVice

MY PIECE FOR THE BINGQIU MINIBANG WITH VICE !! it was super fun to work on :D you at first sight au!

#what if shen yuan could read people even less #THE FIC IS SOO CUTE #i also rec the og manhwa !#this came about bc i was like what if binghe was in the ml's shoes. wow the unwellness #bingqiu #svsss

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thegoldenavenger · 2 months

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First pass at the bingliu and bingqiu fusions

Bingliu has all of lqg’s confidence, lbh’s social graces, and both of their crippling need to avoid failure!

Bingqiu loves himself sooooo much, is pretty detached, and definitely thinks he’s better than everyone else. He’s just helping, why are you running away!

In the ficlet I said lqg doesn’t like interacting with BingQiu (or… sqq thinks that) but really it’s because BingQiu mercilessly flirts and teases him, is effortlessly stronger than him, and kind of projects ‘oh you sweet thing, I could just eat! you! up! [pinches cheeks]’ energy and this is such a contrast from his interactions with lbh and sqq that he just gets very awkward all the time about it.

#kamaetedraws #svsss #I guess haha #BingQiu #bingliu #BingQiu is like… when both of you want be wifey so bad…..#I don’t know if it comes across but bingqiu has a second face hiding a toothy mouth #like a mask…. you know… since both sqq and lbh mask their true selves #bingliu has a second pair of eyes that usually stay closed #they only open when they’re close to destabilizing #oooor when they really want to See something #things that amused me:#bingliu uses they/them pronouns bc lqg is [hand wave] about gender and lbh is [hyperventilates] about gender #so bingliu was like ‘split the difference’#bingqiu on the other hand uses he/him bc lbh and sqq have such a strong sense of who the other (is supposed to) be #that even though bingqiu is SO wife coded he’s gone back around to ‘dude who is so comfortable in his masculinity that he wears pink’ vibes #if sqq ever loosens up a single iota his fusion’s pronouns might change up but currently EVERY sqq fusion goes by he/him #funnily enough this contrasts og!sqq who fused and used they/the #less bc of gender and more that he has such an ingrained sense of self #that when he’s fused he conceptualises that as sharing….#so plural not neutral even though they are a singular being #sqq just hates himself a lot about it

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piosplayhouse · 2 years

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Mdzs fans: why would anyone ship x*yao or x*exiao like those are soo problematic and toxic it's gross

Svsss fans : what level of shipping characters who kill each other am I on? Probably like 5 or 6 my dude

#i was just trying to remember the ship name for xuexiao bc i forgot and it immediately came up with discourse LMFAO #sorry i promise im done wirh the mxtx discourse comparisons its just!! its so funny to me #like we're theoretically brother fandoms but mdzs fans will be like DO NOT SHIP THIS!! ITS TOXIC #and sv fans will be like bingqiu wasn't toxic enough i need bingjiu og moshang qijiu #post inspired by mutuals getting into gyx x zzl knowing the only interaction tjey have is gyx getting killed by zzl #svsss #mdzs discourse #mxtx #mxtx discourse

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greenflamedwriter · 2 years

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Imposter

Based from the 'extra' on Scum Villain.

Bingmei VS Bingge

Luo Binghe had everything, a harem, a palace ruler of the entire realm and yet it paled compared to those two. Why did that weak Luo Binghe have a shizun that looked at him like that and why...

Why was his shizun so cold.

Luo Binghe traveled to many worlds, one with his Shizun but all of them were cold, cruel and tried to kill him.

So he thought of that Shizun and found a world where it was different, modern. Luo Binghe found himself in a room a strange room with a black box with a light coming from it, it was illuminating a figure.

A dead figure.

Luo Binghe was confused and saw the body looked similair enough, gazing back at the box he leaned forward, did this cause his death?

His eyes widened as he read a small paragraph "Proud Immortal Demon way! Follow Luo Binghe the blackened protagonist on his conquest-"

He blinked, ignoring the dead body he tried to navigate the damn thing, pressing random buttons did something it appeared on the first page, he began to read his story...

Someone had either spied on him, or he entered a world where he was a work of fiction.

He gazed down at the body on the floor and hummed.

Focusing he imagined this man and slashed Xin mo.

He found himself back on Qing jing peak and saw it was night time,

he found a version of Shizun but he was alone- Luo Binghe saw the sword memorial and paused...this had to be that other Binghe's Shizun.

Luo Binghe sat crossed legged and meditated.

This one was dreaming and he was unguarded- a complete wreck.

And because of some insight from the other world all of this Shizuns memories were open to him. Including something called a 'system'...

He looked through all of the memories of this Shen Yuan who in fear only sought to appease the future demon lord to avoid his terrible fate.

If Luo Binghe wasn't watching and hearing Shen Qingqiu muttering outloud he would've been enraged that it was all a lie just to save himself.

But this Shen Qingqiu didn't just mend the relationship between student and teacher, he went above and beyond, he spoiled Luo Binghe. Had thoughts outloud about why someone could be so cruel. He even say Shen Qingqiu look at the mirror in disgust and criticise why someone like a peak lord would be so horrible to a child.

Luo Binghe had no idea how to take this, he dared hope and squished that down in a place and think over later.

He saw the pacing, the muttering the pain in the others eyes.

"Is there any other way?"

"Luo Binghe must go down the Endless Abyss."

This Shizun never wanted to, he bartered, yelled, screamed then sighed and once the moment came.

The timer flashing and even accidently stabbing his disciple, and the one watching saw the wounds and realised.

"Ah so thats how he figured it out." That Luo Binghe kept the wounds, his hands and chest showing a scar.

Luo Binghe had no such wounds, he never wanted to be reminded of his failures.

Shizun looked horrified and even more pained. His Disciple wasn't making it easier on him.

Shizun said some rubbish about heavenly demons that felt pathetic even to Luo Binghe's ears.

And once the abyss closed did the other fall to his knees unseeing. The 'System' gave him points then removed points for 'heartbreak' making the other give a chocked out laugh.

He watched as this Shizun became a ghost, calling out to Luo Binghe, digging his burial mound he had reforged Luo binghes sword zheng lang.

And on one night, he interacted with the system, Luo Binghe watched intrigued and saw how Shizun produced an object. He looked at it his hand smoothing over the lines of the green jade pendant.

Luo Binghe's breath hitched when he saw it, then the same burning anger.

He kept his mothers jade pendent as a barganing chip!

He almost tore into the dream almost screamed at him- then remembered the system whisper poison in this Shizuns ear.

Whenever he failed to co-operate it would show the same nightmare of being a human stick, using fear to keep his shizun on a leash.

Luo Binghe almost hated the system as much as Shen Qingqiu did.

Luo Binghe sighed, he could never fault a man for clinging to anything to survive. He glanced at Xin Mo, he understood the feeling...

After waking up, he realised with as much information as he could get, he made his decision. He was going to try things differently, he had no idea how the other worlds Shen Qingqiu and Luo Binghe got together, he read the Resentment of Chunshan and had a clear grasp of what happened with this in thought he could navigate the events and be able to have what he was owed. He would take what he deserved.

The heavenly demon had already made his decision.

He was going to steal this shizun for his own. He would kill the Luo Binghe of this world and take his place. It was as simple as that.

He used Xin Mo and travelled to the endless Abyss he was stronger than the Luo Binghe here, with seniority and experience unlike the other in that world he slipped through. That one he was his eqaul.

So when Luo Binghe entered the ruins, he was expecting to see the fallen skeleton of a demon with Xin Mo clutched in it's grasp and the Luo Binghe of this world take it.

What he never exepected to see, was that there were no corpses whatsoever, no fallen warriors, no decaying bodies and no sentinal with the sword.

Instead on the floor was a dark lump it's arm hanging from the sword imedened in the ground. Luo Binghe drew closer, surprised to see his own face pale and guant the life stripped away stolen by the sword.

The Luo Binghe of this world...died?

Luo Binghe stared at the sword in suspicion as he drew closer and could feel the straining and desperate pull.

This Xin Mo, was insatiable even his own sword quivered, one touch could destroy a person, or demon in a second. No matter what any Luo Binghe would've failed with a broken sword such as this.

The lack of corpses was telling, the swrod was starved it had no energy and was dying, anything in reach would be sucked dry.

The Shen qingqiu would've waited years, in fear for the return of his disciple who would never come because the Xin Mo of this world was unhinged. Most worlds were the same with only a few changes that changed the course of fate and the direction of outcomes.

In one world Liu Qingge was alive.

In one world Shen Qingqiu was kind.

And in this world, Luo Binghe failed, either he was too weak or the sword too strong, maybe this demon was too impatient trying to leave the abyss earlier than five years.

Luo Binghe raised his own sword his Xin Mo pulsed with demonic energy, disgusted at the weaken state of it's counterpart finally agreeing on something for once, Luo Binghe struck down and his Xin Mo sliced the other in two as it split and fell before distengrating into dust, too weak.

His sword if destroyed would've released thousands of resentful energy the screams of all of the souls Xin Mo had taken.

This one mearly fell to ash. Nothing, it took everything and left nothing behind.

Luo Binghe almost left the corpse then hesitated.

No one had ever loved Luo Binghe, no matter which life and he would always be abandoned. Luo Binghe picked up the corpse shutting it's open terrified eyes and mouth that was frozen into a scream.

Even though the eyes and mouth was shut, the srain on the face left the corpse looking haggared and old.

Luo Binghe slashed Xin Mo and found himself outside the Lou River.

His mother found him here and this was where she was also buried, he found a spot and grabbed a rock digging his own counterparts grave and making the proper buriel rites. He sat on his knees and prayed.

This felt different, he had planned on murdering this Luo Binghe, but he wanted to fight with honour and earn his place. But not to look a gift-horse in the mouth he saw this as a blessing.

This kind Shizun HAD no Luo Binghe to return to him...

And he HAD no kind Shizun to love him.

Maybe both can help fill the spaces in their hearts...

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Shen Yuan hummed "Maybe that other version you saw, he exists because of you. it was your story that I read and maybe that other Shen Qingqiu too since we're both the same. I read that awful trash just because of you." he scowled as he saw the other puff up his chest visibly preening. "Seeing Luo Binghe as a sticky disciple I wanted to spoil him and protect him, you were just unlucky to not be the Luo Binghe on the other side, you could've been that disciple in that other world. It could've been you with Shen Yuan as a Shizun and another Luo Binghe without the kind one. One can't exist without the other. Without you I wouldn't be here."

Luo Binghe sat up his back turned to his Shizun, his hands trembled.

He's faced beasts, monsters humans or demons and never wavered but now- the trust his Shizun has in him, the relief that he wasn't going to rip him into shreds- no he would never do that.

That was Shen Qingqiu, he would never hurt Shen Yaun ever.

But that was the dilema, he wasn't meant to be here, this wasn't his world. This world was supposed to have a Luo Binghe one who was loved by his Shizun one that this demon lord had stolen.

He deserved this.

But in this moment, did he truly feel guilt, shen Yuan- Luo Binge he wasn't even supposed to know that name- knew the parameters of the system, know why Shen Qingqiu was afraid.

And he was ignorant that his little white lotus was dead, that he never escaped the endless Abyss, that the Luo Binghe beside him was an imposter.

...

He could feel Shizun wrap his arms around him "Doesn't that make us the same?" Luo Binghe gazed questiongly at him and felt Shizun look up at him.

"Both of us has warped ideas of the future, changing courses for a better outcome, you knew everything about me, the same way as I know everything about you."

Almost like, they were equels just the two of them, no one else could understand the choas of toeing the line to keep things balanced but reacting to your own ripples in the water.

Shizun suddenly tensed his eyes wide "You don't have a system do you?" Luo Binghe tilted his head "no. I do not."

He felt Shizun uncoil, relieved.

"Thats good."

Why? Luo Binghe's eyes narrowed "Does Shizun wish for me to destroy his system?" He would do it, he would tear that thing to shreds it had tormented his Shizun and made him do things he wouldn't do of his own free will.

Shizun paused seeming to consider then shook his head. "I've grown too dependent on it, it helps me cultivate in this world."

"You have me, what use is it?"

Shizun huffed, "I'm not some wife who would sit on the sidelines, I may not be the protagonist obviously, but I want to keep up and actually fight alongside you as an equel."

Luo Binghe let out a breath, amused. "So be it."

Shizun glanced away, he couldn't exactly say he wanted to be close to the action to see Luo Binghe in all his glory.

#svsss fanfiction #svsss #one day I WILL write these prompts!#Shen Qingqiu #Origional Luo Binghe #OG Luo Binghe #Bingqiu #Bing-ge #Bingge #Shen #Yuan #Proud Immortal demon way

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trickstarbrave · 2 years

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thinking about how when luo binghe gets back from the abyss he doesn’t know why his teacher kicked him in. sqq had told him that not all demons were evil, only to then declare his heritage meant he was actually worse than most demons and couldn’t be by his side. he comes back for answers, afraid to return to sqq as his disciple so he goes to huanhua palace. he is sent on a mission to investigate a weird outbreak. he sees sqq.

sqq looks shocked, but then says nothing. did he expect lbh to die? did he want him to? if he hates lbh so much why didnt he expose him as a demon? why did he instead just say he died? sqq could stand there, right now, and declare him as a demon and condemn everyone from huanhua for housing and protecting a demon. but he just stands there shocked. he wants answers.

he goes to see his shizun late at night. sqq was expecting LUI QINGGE to be visiting his room of all things. sqq run from him when he just wants to fucking talk, to ask why sqq kicked him into the abyss. he acts like lbh is going to kill him. luo binghe cant understand why. cant understand what he possibly did to make sqq think he’s some horrible monster. what happened to the man who told him what mattered was the moral character of demons and humans? what happened to the man who saw the worst parts of his psyche and trauma and protected him? what happened to the man who called for him every day, the one who trusted luo binghe, the one who put his honor on the line bc he believed luo binghe could do anything? who made him special practice books?

then in the water prison he blames lbh more. says hes the one who was responsible for framing him. for orchestrating the whole thing. he refuses to even wear his outer robes, preferring instead to be cold, wet, and half naked than wear a shred of clothing from luo binghe. when he escapes, he instantly blames luo binghe for killing guards and gongyi xiao, even though while he isn’t happy with them he wouldn’t go so far as to kill them. why does sqq assume the worst in him? assume he’s a monster? assume he’s manipulative, underhanded, vicious, and cruel?

but then, during a qi deviation, even though sqq could have used it to escape, he once again jumped in between lbh and danger. he gave up his life to save lbh. why? didnt he think lbh was horrible? didnt he think lbh was ruining his life? he hears that sqq bet an enormous amount of money on him at the alliance. that he didnt even return lbh’s sword but buried it and mourned it. that he was losing his mind from grief. that he lied about lbh dying to protect his honor, so it wasn’t revealed that he was half demon.

luo binghe probably couldn’t make sense of it. did he act afraid the whole time because he thought he had wronged lbh? did he think binghe was back for revenge? to hurt and kill him? did he feel guilty, and thats why he ran? why still give his life to save him? why did sqq keep doing things that didn’t make sense?

but no answers came. he was just left alone with the body of the man who was his savior and protector, and the man who feared him more than anyone. the man who both cherished and shunned him. the only other person besides his mother who truly loved him, and now he was gone too. gone before they could make amends. gone before he could get answers. gone before he could tell sqq he never hated him, that he loved him.

#luo binghe #shen qingqiu #bingqiu #svsss #scum villain #just feeling a lot of things when i realize cucumber was so wrapped up in the personality of og!binghe #that he cant even see this binghe for how he is #but in his defense he was also afraid of unimaginable torment #but lbh was left so confused and hurt with absolutely no answers

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