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Episode 54 Transcript: The Plural of Shaman is Shamen

G: Hey, BABPals! So-

C: Hi BABPals!

G: Hi BABPals! A couple days ago, our podcast, Busty Asian Beauties: A Supernatural Podcast [C laughs] had our first-year anniversary!

C: Whoo!

G: So we released our episode on January 18, both in Philippine time and- Eastern?

C: US all the time zones.

G: US all the time zones. So January 18 is our anniversary-

C: Yes. Yes, it is.

G: - and to celebrate, we released some... merch, baby! We have some merch!

C: We did do that.

G: Yeah.

C: So it is on Redbubble because that is the easiest thing to do [G laughs], and you can access it at babpod.redbubble.com.

G: Mm-hm.

C: And we have 13 designs, but like, about 6 unique designs.

G: Yeah.

C: And- right, so, we've got variations on the logo, which are really cute-

G: Yeah!

C: And we have some inside jokes related to the podcast.

G: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

C: So. What is your favorite design, Grey?

G: Oh! My favorite design is Sam in his Carhartt hoodie saying, "It's in every culture, Dean!" Because that's literally one of my most favorite inside jokes in the show that like, Sam literally always says "in every culture." Although I would say, if you're like, if, you know, you want a sticker that's a bit more generic, like, you know, it's not- it can be just a sticker, stuff like that, you can also get the [laughing] "I hate Supernatural so much it's unreal."

C: Soo real.

G: Because it's literally "I hate Supernatural so much it's unreal." And-

C: I literally do hate Supernatural so much it's unreal.

G: Yeah. I don't even know if we say that in the episodes, or we just say that when we do talk to each other.

C: I do say it in the episode.

G: We do? That's good. That's good.

What about you? What's your favorite?

C: I say the timestamps at which I send you "I hate Supernatural so much it's unreal." [G laughs]

G: Yeah. Okay, is that your favorite?

C: I think that it is my favorite in that it seems the most applicable to all aspects of my life-

G: Yeah.

C: - but I'm also fond of the Sam "I too am in this episode" design-

G: Yeah!

C: - because he literally to is in this episode, is the thing.

G: Yeah! He literally to is in this episode, is the thing. And he's teary-eyed! It's so cute.

C: Yeah. He's miserable. Love that.

G: Yeah. Can you talk about the artist? Just to-

C: Oh, yeah. So the artist is cyvvang on Instagram and also Redbubble, and she's the best, and she designed our logo, so it's-

G: Yeah!

C: - like, consistent in art style, I guess, so yay!

G: Yeah! It looks BABPod-ish.

C: Love to have an established aesthetic.

G: Yeah! It looks BABPod-ish. It's just super fun.

C: Yeah.

G: So yeah! Get some merch! If you so desire. [laughing] Honestly, we are not expecting any- anything.

C: Any money? Like, none of it?

G: None. We just want to-

C: Redbubble, you need to make $25 before you even get a deposit in your account-

G: Oh my god. Boo.

C: - and like, each product, you make probably like a maximum of $3 off of the 20% markup, so yeah. I don't think we're gonna see any money, but wouldn't you find it so fun to own a shirt that says, "I hate Supernatural so much it's unreal" or a bathmat with crying Sam on it, that you can step on his face? Don't you want for yourself? For your life? For your joy?

G: Do you not want a totebag featuring two people in front of an umpao with a Supernatural devil's trap symbol up top? It's fun, you guys.

C: Exactly! It's fun.

G: Yeah.

C: [laughing] And don't worry, most of the logo versions don't have the name of the podcast on it, so-

G: [laughing] Yeah!

C: - you can wear it in public.

G: Yeah, people do not need to know that you listen to a podcast called Busty Asian Beauties.

C: Yeah! They can just see a really good drawing and be like, "Wow! What a nice drawing."

G: Yeah, exactly. Also, like, if you want to print this shit by yourself, the merch, I think you can probably do it. If you want to put Sam Winchester on a shirt-

C: Yeah, go ahead.

G: Go ahead, and like, I don't know.

C: Yeah, if Redbubble doesn't ship to your country or the shipping fees are ridiculous, just take the PNGs and run.

G: Yeah. And like, just-

C: I think the full-quality versions are on a Tumblr post that we have, so.

G: Yeah, exactly. And just make sure to send us a picture of you wearing it. I think that would be so cool.

C: That would be fun! Do it.

G: Yeah. Maybe a sticker on your laptop of the phrase "I hate Supernatural so much it's unreal" followed by like, [laughing] 5 other stickers from Supernatural. That would be fun.

C: Yeah. That would be fun.

G: Yeah. So, thank you so much.

C: Yeah, enjoy the ep.

[intro guitar music]

G: Yeah. Happy anniversary!

G: Hello, my name is Grey.

C: And my name is Crystal.

G: And this is Busty Asian Beauties, the Supernatural commentary podcast where I, someone who has seen this show several times…

C: And I, someone who only knows about the show through social media, discuss every single episode of Supernatural from start to finish. Also, we are both Asian.

G: Both Asian! So for today's episode, we have “Dream a Little Dream of Me,” written by Sera Gamble and Cathryn Humphris, directed by Steve Boyum.

C: I see that Sera Gamble got together with someone new after the Raelle breakup, finally.

G: Yeah, but Cathryn has been around, right?

C: Yeah, yeah. But I feel like this is the first time Sera Gamble has partnered with someone who isn't Raelle Tucker.

G: With someone else, yeah.

C: Was the result good? Eh.

G: It's like, as I said to you earlier, this episode is so corny. [C lauhgs] Like, multiple times in the episode, I'm like, "Eugh." That was my honest reaction to the episode.

C: I woke up today being like, “I have to podcast today,” and then I like, sat in my bed for like 5 minutes, being like, “What even happened in this episode? What was this episode?” And I went through like, the plot of like, 3.09 first, and then I was like, “Wait, no. It was a different one. There was another one at one point.” [G laughs]

G: I can't believe we're on episode 10.

C: Yeah, we're so close to him.

G: Yeah. We are so close. And yeah. I mean, do you think this is gonna be released by December? [laughs] This episode?

C: I... I have hope in my heart.

G: I have hope in my heart.

C: If not, happy new year, guys! [G laughs]

G: We are so bad at releasing episodes recently, so if not, happy new year.

C: Yeah, sowwy. Are you mad at us?

G: [laughs] Are you mad at us? We are so sowwy.

C: [laughs] Sowwy!

G: Yeah. So I mean, what did you know about this episode? I mean, you probably know a lot, right?

C: Well, I didn't know- I knew a lot of these scenes, but I didn't know that they were in this episode. The only scene that I knew was in this episode was Lisa with the picnic basket, and that she had nice hair

G: You didn't know about the “This is what you're gonna become!” scene?

C: I knew that there was a scene- I did not know what episode it was in- but, you know, I know it had to be in season 3. So yeah, I knew about demon!Dean confronting real!Dean. Obviously, I knew about the Sambela sex dream. Who doesn't? And… huh. What else did I know? I feel like those are the main iconic scenes that I recall hearing about.

G: Yeah. We also get some of Bobby's backstory here.

C: Yeah.

G: [laughing] Do you care even an inch about that?

C: I... Maybe it's something about the actress for his dead wife, but no. [laughs]

G: Well, first of all, I want to say: Bobby's actor? Not that good. [both laugh] I'm so mean to old men. So sorry, old men. I know we have listeners who are old men. I see our demographic. I see our listenership. And-

C: We have listeners who would feel hurt that we're calling them old men because they're like, 50.

G: They are 50 to 60 year-old men. And they're listening to our podcast. Like, they're old. [C laughs] First of all-

C: [laughing] Please don't turn off the episode and leave us forever. I don't think you're old! I think you're so cool and sexy! [laughs] Yeah, they're old.

G: First of all, if you're 50 or 60 years old, and you're listening to this podcast, thank you so much. I feel like by that age, you have like, a whole life that you've lived, you know?

C: It's true.

G: And the fact that you are still using your time to listen to two silly goofballs on the internet- Thank you so much. I appreciate it greatly.

C: Yeah.

G: Everyone else, what are you doing here? [both laugh] We're officially only making this podcast for the 50 to 60-year-old men who listen to us. Yeah. Well.

C: Well. [both laugh]

G: This episode is so horrible already! [both laugh]

C: Like, I know that there are like, moments people consider Dean thesis moments in here, but have you considered that Dean has had the same thesis for like, 20 episodes?

G: I mean, when he started like, shouting at himself, I was like, “Aww!” But then he was like- I hate the whole, like, “He's so angy! [C laughs] He's angy! He's so angry!” Like, I'm tired of it. So I guess it didn't affect me as much.

C: Yeah, yeah.

G: Like, the whole idea of Dean beating himself up would be more effective if he also did not beat everyone else up. [laughs] You know what I mean? [C laughing]

C: Yup.

G: But because this is just who he is. This is just what he does. So it's like, "Eh. It's okay."

C: Yeah. He sees a person with a pulse, and he goes for them with his fists swinging.

G: Yeah.

G: So we get our "Then" sequence, and it's super obvious already who's gonna be here. So like, we have Bela, we have Lisa, and then that's it. Bobby's also in the "Then" sequence, right? Does it matter?

C: And Ruby.

G: What? Ruby!

C: Oh, Ruby is also there, but just for the scene where it's like, “Yeah, I can't actually save you from Hell. Sowwy."

G: Yeah. Yeah.

So we start at this like, house, and Bobby is getting attacked to an inch of his life. I think like he's getting beat up or something? [laughs] I didn't pay much attention. Okay, listen to me-

C: The editing is atrocious here.

G: The editing is atrocious here, and also for the rest of the episode. [C laughs] There are moments where I was like, “Okay, I can see why, but why?" You know what I mean? Like, "I can see what the thought process that led to this. But I wish I didn’t.” [laughs] You know? So.

C: Yeah, okay. But also, I guess it's like, we've seen AMVs during the time, and I think they were just like, “It's the coolest thing to make everything color-graded so weird to show that there are different scenes, and to do confusing flashes all the time.” Like, I think that was just the style of the era, perhaps. But then Supernatural never changes. [G laughs]

G: No, but you're right. It may be the style of the era.

Yeah. And then Bobby wakes up, and you think he's in a hospital bed because of how he’s positioned, but he's not. He's in a hotel- motel room. And then, this lady- who is Asian. Whoo!!!

C: She's Asian!! Yeah!!!

G: Yeah!! Whoo!!

C: Let's go!

G: Whoo! So this Asian lady- we're so [both laugh]- we will always point out the Asian people in this podcast.

C: Yes.

G: But so, this lady comes in, and she's a cleaning lady. And like, she sees Bobby, and she's like, “Oops, sorry, my bad. I didn't know you were still here.” And then she goes back out, but then she's like, “Why is the man not waking up?” So she goes to Bobby and starts like, waking him up, and then there's a part where she like, shakes him a little bit vigorously, and then it cuts back and forth to the scene that is still happening in Bobby's head where he's getting attacked, and it ends with her screaming, “Help! Help!” while shaking Bobby. And all I can think of is-

C: She's soo panicked. Like, you don't know him. Like, whatever. [laughs]

G: First of all, like, once you assume that someone is dead- and like, if someone is dead in your motel room, I don't think I'll be like, “Oh my god! There's a dead person and there's a-!” I think I'll be like, [deadpan] “Another day at the motel!” [both laugh]

C: Literally. Like, when she's yelling she's like, [panicked] “Wake up! Do you hear me?” like she's a love interest and not just someone who he does not know and who does not know him. And okay, I get it. [laughing] Like, you are hired as an extra on Supernatural, and you want to put your whole pussy into acting. I understand that, and I respect that. But also, why do you care?

G: [laughs] [mockingly] Why do you care?

I mean, there was this TV show when I was younger, I don't even remember what it's called, but it's like, in Filipino TV, right? And like, one of the plotline is like, “She shook the baby a little too hard, and the baby died.” [both laughing]

C: So real.

G: And every time like, when she was shaking Bobby, I was like, “You're gonna kill him. He's a little baby that's gonna die if you shake him too hard."

C: He's only 600 months old! [G laughs]

G: Exactly.

C: We cut to a bar where Sam is there, looking like the saddest, wettest little guy. And Dean comes in. Oh, also, I had friends in the room during this time, so this is the first time we saw Sam properly, and he said Sam's a 7 out of 10, and Dean's a 4.5 out of 10. [laughs] This is not relevant to anything.

G: First of all- I mean, "first of all," I keep saying that. But like, whatever of all, Sam looks so good this episode.

C: He does look so good this episode

G: He looks so good. I feel like he is slowly building muscle. Like, he's training for the war, or whatever the fuck he's doing, but he's building so much muscle! He's so hunky. And I know we complained in the past that, like, "early Sam should be lanky!" But like, this is the perfect moment for Sam to transition from lanky dude to-

C: Yeah. No, just to transition.

G: To transition, period.

C: Yeah, he's on T.

G: And the testosterone is making him build muscle! Exactly.

C: Yeah. Happy for him.

So Dean shows up and is like, “It's 2 in the afternoon. Why are you drinking whiskey?” And Sam's like, [mocking] “Well, I actually drink whiskey all the time, because I'm cool. And also like, who cares? Because you get sloppy at bars and hit on chicks all the time. So why can't I?” Okay, Dean says that "there are slim pickings in the bar," and specifically looks at a woman there. And the transcript says that she's a lot older than Sam, but I didn't actually notice that. I was just like, “He's calling her ugly? That's so mean!” [G laughs]

G: I didn't even notice that he was looking at someone. Like, I'll be perfectly honest. [laughing] I just- I like, I just finished my job thing when I was watching this, and I was doing my like, corrections for my students at the same time while I was watching Supernatural.

C: So correct of you.

G: So I was like, not paying attention for the first half. But like, I knew what was happening. I didn't know, though, that he was looking at "an older lady," as the transcript says.

C: She looked like, 30 to me, but maybe I wasn't paying attention

G: Yeah. "Quite a bit older."

C: Hm. Yeah. I don't know.

G: I wonder if these transcripts are like, just the opinion of the transcriber.

C: I mean, probably everything is the option of the transcriber.

G: No, but like, there are some episodes with drafts and shit, right? The production sides, something something.

C: Oh, so you're saying that this might be the script notes that the woman's older than Sam?

G: Yeah. Maybe Sera Gamble wrote that [laughs].

C: Yeah. Or Cathryn Humphris, we don't know.

G: Yeah, exactly.

C: What if the whole time, her name’s pronounced Katherine, but they just spelled it weird, and we've been calling her kath-REEN. Well, too bad.

G: Well, sorry kath-er-in or kath-reen.

C: [laughs] Yeah. So Sam's all sad, and he's saying like, [sasdly] “I tried to save you. And I couldn't, so now I'm getting drunk.” So yeah, Dean sits down next to him, and Sam is talking about how sad he is that Dean's gonna go to Hell, and he's going to become a demon-

G: Which means Dean told him.

C: Yes. But Dean did not tell him about the part where Ruby said that she can't help him, because Sam says, “I'm starting to think maybe even Ruby can't stop it.” So yeah, interesting of Dean to keep-

G: Yeah. He was like, “I'm gonna become a demon for sure. But I'm gonna keep the fact that it's for sure from you.”

C: Yeah. Which I guess makes sense. Like, he wants some emotional support about how he's going to become a demon, but he doesn't want Sam to be in the throes of complete agony.

G: Yeah, I mean, wouldn't it be better to have hope, don't you think? Or do you not think that?

C: Probably? Yeah, I don't know. I feel like if you had hope, you would be spending all your time trying to save him instead of just hanging out, which might be more fun.

G: Yeah. But like, if you don't, all the hanging out would be depressing as all hell

C: Hm. That's true.

G: Ha! All hell. So funny.

C: Tee-hee.

G: [laughs] I'm the funniest person alive.

C: It's true! You are. [G laughs]

So Sam says, like, “No, like, I mean that no one can save you because you don't want to be saved.”

“You don't think you deserve to be saved”!! I miss Cas, I miss him so much, please. Okay. So-

G: I know you hate Mitski Supernatural AMVs. Or do you? Or do you just hate specific ones?

C: I hate Dean's. [laughs] I don't like them in general, but I hate the Dean ones.

G: Oh, but I have one that I like-

C: That's okay.

G: - and it's the "Nobody" one. And it's season 3, for season 3-

C: That's okay.

G: [laughing] Why are you saying "that's okay"? Why are you comforting me?

C: Well, you know it's a really difficult thing to admit to, [G laughing] and a really embarrassing thing to feel, so I just want you to know that this is a safe place, and I will never make you feel bad about your awful taste in anything!

G: [laughs] You’re so mean to the person that I'm complimenting!

C: No, you're right, someone did make it! Sorry person who made it! If you're listening to this, I'm sorry. I haven't seen it, so I'm just making fun of it with no actual knowledge of what the content is.

G: Yeah. I mean it's like “Nobody,” right? Like, “no one will save me / I'm just asking for a kiss,” and it's like, season 3 Dean. And I remember reading the caption, and it's like, "season 3," and I was like “So no Cas?” [laughs] Which is my reaction to everything.

C: Yeah, of course.

G: But towards the end of the AMV, you know how like, the song lulls down to like, [singing] “nobody, nobody” just over and over again. And it's like, Cas's entrance-

C: Aw.

G: So it's like, “No, there is somebody, though” is like, the message of the AMV. And it's makes me feel so emo! And like- [laughs]

C: Yeah.

G: That's why I shared. Also like, [laughs] I mean, who knows when we'll publish this episode? But recently, I've been seeing the “Fireworks” Sam Winchester AMV a lot.

C: Oh, yeah, okay, I do like that one.

G: I love that one. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I have no further comment. That AMV is fucking fantastic. Everyone go watch it.

C: So yeah, Sam goes-

G: [laughing] Wait, wait!

C: What?

G: [laughing] I was like, "fireworks AMV," but I did not clarify that it's "Fireworks" by Mitski. So now I'm imagining a “Do you ever feel like a plastic bag” [C laughing] Sam Winchester AMV.

It should have happened. Someone should make it happen.

C: Yeah. It might exist.

G: 'Cause baby, you're a firework! Yeah, exactly.

C: Yeah. Like, we have the scene where Dean and baby!Sam are-

G: They're exploding fireworks, yeah.

C: So Sam goes, “How can you care so little about yourself?” Sam's- Well, Sam was not paying attention in his psych classes in college, even though he was a psych major in our minds. And before Dean can reply, he gets a call about something. So they go to the thing.

G: So it's Bobby. He's comatose, and the doctors are telling Sam and Dean like, "He's comatose!" But they can't figure out anything wrong with him, so they can’t test for anything more than they've already tested for, they can't treat for anything, because they don't know what's wrong with him. So Sam and Dean are stumped. So they go to the last place where Bobby was found in-

C: Wait. I want to discuss how Dean is Bobby's emergency contact for a second.

G: Aww. What if he's dead, though?

C: Yeah. Does that not make you go "aww"? What?

G: I mean, is it "aww" material? Who's your emergency contact?

C: It's both- okay, first- Rufus- where's Rufus? That's my first thought. Where's Rufus?

G: Well, I mean, isn't Rufus and Bobby in a bad relationship right now?

C: Yes, because Bobby was semi-responsible for Rufus's daughter's death. That's true. Yeah, I wonder who it was before Dean.

G: I think his wife.

C: Do you think it was Rufus before Dean, do you think it was John before Dean.

G: It was his wife. And then I think maybe Rufus.

C: Well, his wife died when Dean was a child, so he wouldn't go from his wife to Dean.

G: Maybe Ellen.

C: Okay, yeah. But Ellen's still alive and kicking. Why would he change it from Ellen to Dean?

G: I mean, for plot development. What else? [laughs]

C: I know, but if we're taking a Watsonian approach, I want to explore the history of Bobby's emergency contact. [laughs] Like, I don't think it would be John because John is not reliable.

G: I think like, it's a situation of- every phone, he has a different emergency contact.

C: Oh, yeah, okay. Do they go into your phone for that? Isn't there like a- I thought there was- like, you filled out a form for the hospital about it.

G: He's fucking comatose. [laughs] How is he gonna fill out a form?

C: No, like, you put it down on an official piece of paper-

G: Oh, like a database?

C: Yeah. With your insurance or something.

G: Oh, I thought it was like- I mean, in your phone, right-

C: No, they don't- no, they don't go into your phone.

G: No, they don't have to. They just have to swipe right. I mean, we probably have just very different ideas of what an emergency contact is. Because to me, an emergency contact is "Who's on my phone?" [laughs] Like, there's no paperwork, no nothing, yeah.

C: Okay, I think there's paperwork in the US and there's really only one that can be- well, I think you can put down a few, maybe, but they might have tried earlier numbers, and they didn't pick up.

G: Yeah. I mean, okay, there is some sort of like, emergency contact situation in the Philippines. But it's more like, “If this ID is lost, you call this number" kind of situation, you know.

C: Okay.

G: So it's not- yeah.

C: I guess it was Rufus, and then it was his wife, and then Rufus, and then- I don't- how old was Dean when the Rufus/Bobby falling out happened?

G: I mean, probably not that old, because Dean didn't know Rufus.

C: Yeah. Hm. Well.

G: He didn't even know Rufus. Come on.

C: Maybe it was actually fucking John before it was Dean. That'd be hilarious.

G: I mean, Bobby has other connections.

C: That's true. He does have a lot of friends.

G: Yeah.

C: Yeah.

G: Maybe he like, goes- like, every time he has to fill out a form of like, "What's your emergency contact?" He like, does a roulette, and he's like, “Okay, it landed on Dean this time, and now it's Dean.”

C: Mm-hm. Now it's Dean.

G: So they go to Bobby's motel room. They're trying to find what he's hiding, blah blah blah. And Dean found inside his cabinet like, newspaper clippings and stuff. And yeah. I mean, they saw an obituary of this guy who died while doing dream or sleep research. So they’re like, “Okay, Bobby was investigating this. So we need to investigate it too.” So they go over to that place where the doctor’s office is.

C: So Dean's interviewing Dr. Gregg who's- Dr. Gregg's lab assistant, and Dr. Gregg is the guy who died. And she seems quite on edge. We hear that she talked about all this with another detective who she described as “A very nice older man with a beard.”

G: Yeah.

C: Aww. It's good to know that Bobby's like, nice on his interrogations and Sam and Dean are like, staring in people's eyes being like, “Did they see a ghost?”

G: Does he have a beard?

C: Yeah, a bit. He's not clean-shaven.

G: I don't understand his beard situation. Yeah, perhaps. But I mean, I've seen Bobby do the FBI stuff. And he like, combs his hair and shit. So like [laughs], good for him.

C: Yeah. Good for him. And she says that she's busy, and she doesn't want to talk about it, and then she starts going into like, “I promise I didn't know about his experiments, like, the sleeping ones. No one knew, okay? And I spoke with a lawyer, and I can't be held liable for anything.” So like, does this imply that the experiments were unethical?

G: Yeah. But maybe it's just like- Because they imply that African dream root, which is like, the crux of the experiment, right? is like, I don't know. Like, “It's not scientifically- blah blah blah.” So maybe there's some issue with that. But I don't think that would be unethical. It would be like, a waste of grant money. But I don't think it would be unethical. Maybe like, the- I mean, it's implied that like, he had one test subject, and that test subject ended up abusing the drug, so like, maybe that?

C: Yeah. So he didn't take enough precautions or whatever.

G: Yeah.

C: Yeah. Dean starts threatening her with "This is going on her permanent record unless she gives all research over to him." [G laughs]

G: He's so iconic.

C: He's such a loser.

G: He is. But this scene was so fucking funny to me. Like, he was like literally just talking as vaguely as possible.

C: Yeah. He was like, [defensively] "Well, there's, um, new evidence that comes out that's gonna land your ass in jail, soo... you should give me the research."

G: Yeah.

G: So we go to the house of this one guy named Jeremy, and it's just Dean with this. I mean, it was also just Dean last time, right?

C: Yeah, wait, where is Sam?

G: [laughing] Yeah. They literally put him in a bank vault! [both laughing]

C: Yeah, where is Sam? Just at a bar again? Because all he does this entire episode is be at the bar in the beginning, and then just get beat up a bunch of times later. [G laughs]

G: He was crucified!

C: What is doing know? Is he just standing in the hallway of the motel, and random people are punching him? Is that what's happening right now?

G: Yeah. But Jeremy says like, “Look, I don't know what the RA said, but I was growing ferns,” which, like, the implication is that he was growing weed. I love that. I know that this guy turns out to be evil, but good for him.

C: Yeah. So "RA." This man is supposedly a college student, and this is supposedly a dorm, right?

G: Yeah, it's too- I don't know what to say about the dorm.

C: He looks way too old for that.

G: First of all, that's true. I mean, what is the obligation- like, for example, you enter college older. Do you still have to do the whole "first years live in campus"?

C: I don't know.

G: Yeah. That's such a weird thing, too. Like, "first years on campus" thing.

C: Oh, I mean, they need that room and board [both] money.

G: Is that- Are you being for real? Like, that's the reason? It's not like, "We need to teach-"

C: I don't think that's the only reason, but I'm sure that it's not not a reason.

G: It's just a weird thing because, like, I was- when I was looking up US universities, when I was looking up unis, I was like, “This is such a weird rule that you have to live there. What if you live like, you know, a couple of minutes away. What's the deal?"

C: Not allowed. Jail.

G: Yeah. But yeah, he was growing ferns. Good for him.

C: Mm-hm. Good for him.

G: And Dean is like, “Okay, it's fine. Take it easy. I'm not here for that.” And he starts asking about Dr. Gregg’s sleep study. And this guy is one of the test subjects. And the moment Dean says that, like, “Dr. Gregg's study,” the guy offers him some beer.

C: Yeah.

G: And he gets the beer. Dean gets the beer, and this is gonna be relevant. So. I love it that this is relevant. Because it's such an in-character thing to do, and like, the character that they're presenting as this guy is like, "Of course he's gonna offer Dean beer," you know? Like, he was growing weed in his bathroom or something. But it's like an effortless insert into the story, but it proved to be relevant. And yeah. And what he reveals is that he used to be unable to dream because he was hit- well, he didn't say he was hit. He said he was on a bike accident when he was young. And he didn't have a dream ever until this study because the doctor gave him this like, tea that made him pass out and have super vivid, super intense dreams. Yeah. And like, he says, like, “It's like a bad acid trip.” And Dean goes like, “Yeah, totally."

C: "Yeah, I totally get what you mean."

G: And then he remembers that he's like, an FBI agent. He goes, "Nononononono. Like, I don't actually."

C: "I've never done acid."

G: "Totally not. Totally not."

C: When did Dean do acid?

G: I feel like he's not the type of guy. Like, I feel like between Sam and Dean, Sam would do the acid.

C: Yeah, he'd be like, “It really helps me connect with my chakras, Dean,” or whatever. [both laugh]

G: [laughing] Is that what people say when they do acid? I've never done acid. What's acid like? Is it like the paper?

C: I haven't done acid. It's a hallucinogen, I think.

G: I know. But like, it's on a paper strip, right? Like, that's the vessel it's in. I have no idea.

C: Huh. I have no clue what it looks like.

G: No idea. Sorry, everyone.

C: Sorry that you're all listening to a podcast by squares.

G: Look, I am- Yeah. I am a square, I am a prude, I am like, every like, conservative thing you can think about. [C laughs] Except I am also fucking transgender, so like, who even knows?

C: Yeah, this is true. And- I don't know. I'm just boring. [G laughs]

G: Jeremy was like, “Yeah, I dropped out of the study after. Because I was scared." And that's pretty much the entire conversation.

C: Yeah. He was scawed.

G: Scawed.

C: [laughs] Scuarwed.

C: So we go back to the hospital, and Sam and Dean are by Bobby's bed. So okay, maybe Sam stayed behind to just sit by Bobby's bed.

G: Look after Bobby? Oh, that's sweet.

C: That's sweet. Yeah.

G: I mean, what is the hospital etiquette in the United States?

C: There's a lot of “only family allowed inside,” and then like, there's visiting hours.

G: Yeah, that's what I'm confused about. Visiting hours, what's the deal? So like, you're allowed to stay after visiting hours if you're family.

C: Yeah.

G: Okay, got it. I think it's the same, yeah.

C: It's a weird rule. People don't like it. I don't like it. But I guess it's to avoid overcrowding the room if they need to like, do stuff?

G: You know what's funny? Like- because I got confined a lot when I was a kid, and we had a health card, and the health card is at a very fancy hospital. So like, that was- Staying at the hospital is like staying at a fucking hotel. [C laughs] That's how we treated it. Because I got sick often, so I was in the hospital often, and every time I was like, “This is amazing. We have cable!” Like, I was always amazed. And it was the only time in my life when I could watch Disney. So like, all of my experiences with Disney is [laughs] in the hospital! And everybody in the house would like, sleep in the hospital because it was that fancy. [C laughs] So that's super fun. And there's like a couch that's like, pull-out, you know? And like, my mom would sleep beside me on the bed. Which I don't think that's good, because, like, as you said, like, what if I wake up in the middle of the night, going into like, shock, or whatever and they have to treat me, and my mom is literally lying next to me?

C: Yeah, they have to shove your mother off of the bed.

G: Yeah, but I loved being confined as a child. Like, I got to watch whatever I wanted. It was air-conditioned all the time. It was wonderful.

C: Yeah. Congrats on getting sick so much! [G laughs]

G: Thank you.

C: To many more. [both laugh]

G: No, we don't have the same card anymore. If I get confined, it's bad. It's bad.

C: It's a bad hospital? Sorry to hear that.

Yeah, so Sam's been doing some readings of the research, and so he says that the plant being used in the research is known as African dream root. He says, "It's been used by shaman and medicine men for centuries." So the plural plural of shaman - S-H-A-M-A-N - is "shamans," but he says “shamen” like he thinks that S-H-A-M-E-N is the plural of S-H-A-M-A-N. Which I think is fucking hilarious. [G starts laughing/hiccupping] You know. Snowmen, shamen... [G still laughing]

G: [laughing] Wait, that's so funny- [laughing] That's so funny!

C: What?

G: That's so funny! I was screaming so loud and our Zoom call was not picking it up [C laughing] because I was screaming so loud, but I thought that was so funny! Oh my god! Shamen! [laughing]

C: Yeah.

G: Yeah.

C: It's been like, 2 days since I watched this episode, and “shamen” has become a meme in my like, in-person, at college friend group. [G laughing] Like, it's that funny to me-

G: It's so funny!

C: - and to all of my in-person friends right now. God bless.

G: [catching breath] Oh, it's so funny.

C: Yeah. So then Dean- Dean says a line. He says, “Let me guess. They dose up, bust out the didgeridoos, and start kicking around the hackey.” So, okay, so African dream root is- Okay, didgeridoos. That's for like, aboriginal Australians. African dream root- from Africa, as you can tell from the name.

G: Yeah.

C: And yeah, it's regarded by the Xhosa people as a sacred plant, and it is used for like, vivid dreams, potentially prophetic dreams and lucid dreams during the initiation process of shamans- is what Wikipedia said.

G: [laughing] Of shamen.

C: It's a very short article, so I don't know if I can trust it, but every other site that I find when looking this up is all like, New Age, like, Etsy nonsense. [laughs]

G: Yeah.

C: So yeah. We're gonna go with that. Right, and didgeridoos- yeah, aboriginal Australian, used in indigenous Australian music, and it's used recreationally, and also to accompany ceremonial dancing. So Dean’s being racist, as you may have guessed. He's so fucking annoying! [G laughs]

G: Yeah.

C: I guess he's just equating all cultures that he views as like, I don't know. Like, I don't know what he's doing.

G: He took the term “every culture” that Sam uses all the time [C laughing] to another level. That's what he's doing.

C: Yeah. Yeah.

So yeah, he's being racist. So Sam says, "According to the legends, it's used for dreamwalking. So you enter someone else's dreams, and you poke around in their heads." I don't think that's true, according to Wikipedia. I think that prophetic lucid dreams are different from entering other people's dreams. But, you know, whatever.

G: They invent their own lore, yeah.

C: They invent their own lore. Right. And dreamwalking is a thing that comes up later in Supernatural in a way that appropriates-

G: Yeah. African dream root and dreamwalking comes up a lot because of Kaia.

C: Yeah.

G: Which is, you know, a whole- what's the term? Can of worms? Bag of worms? Can of worms.

C: I think it's a can of worms.

G: It's a whole thing. Which I think we'll just talk about when we get there. Which is in a while. Season 13, right?

C: Yeah, she's in Season 13.

Yeah, so Sam says that “This thing is so powerful. You can control anything. You can turn bad dreams good or good dreams bad.” Did you have a lucid, dreaming phase when you were a child?

G: No.

C: Like a phase when you really- Okay, I had a phase when I really wanted to learn how to lucid dream. I think I'd read a book called Every Soul a Star by Wendy Mass, and one of the characters could lucid dream, and I was like, “This is the coolest thing ever!” And I looked up all these techniques to do it, and I could never do it, 'cause, as we've mentioned, I'm just boring.

G: Yeah. I mean, when when you go on- [laughs] I mean, I don't even remember the medications I was on. But like, if you go on psychiatric meditation, your dreams really go fucking apeshit. I mean, have you experienced this? No.

C: No.

G: Yeah. I mean, like, antidepressants, antipsychotics, like, your dreams really become something else. Like, I used to be obsessed with recording my dreams.

C: I used to have a dream journal app, yeah.

G: Yeah. I had a dream journal. Like, actual notebook.

C: Oh. Fancy.

G: And then I- I know. And then I started taking medication for my mental health problems, and I stopped because it was too much. Like, every night I would have like, a dream that was so long and so vivid, it was actually exhausting. Like, I wake up exhausted because my dream is like, an entire movie. But I think that only lasts for like, a couple of months after you start. After a while, it depleted out for me even though I'm still on the medication.

C: That's nice.

G: Yeah. My dreams right now are always like, so fucking funny. Like, one time I woke up crying, I woke up crying because I dreamt that I was Miles Edgeworth, and that Shi-Long Lang broke up with me. [both laughing, C screaming] So- yeah. I mean, that's equivalent to lucid dreaming-

C: I cannot believe you just admitted that on air. [both laughing]

G: Crying! I woke up crying! It was something else. So. [laughing]

C: Yeah. The last dream I had, there was a website that got put up where you could put anyone's name in, and you could see their Spotify history, and I got outed to my parents because they saw I'd listened to “lesbian makeout playlist” 10 times in the past week. [G laughing]

G: I love dreaming so much.

C: Yeah. And so does the antagonist of this episode. [G laughs]

C: So yeah, so Sam theorizes that the doctor was testing the dream root on his patients, and somebody got mad at him and then went and killed him in a dream. And then they're like, “Well, how come Bobby is still alive if the killer is trying to kill him?” And we cut to Bobby's dream.

G: And he's screaming, crying, moaning, throwing up.

C: Throwing up.

G: Yeah. I mean, it's still your turn, right? [laughs]

C: Yeah.

G: I just interrupted you. Yeah, go on.

C: Yeah. So he's doing all those things, but he's still in the hospital bed. And Sam and Dean are discussing how they can find who the killer is. And Dean says, “I don't know how many subjects he had, or who all of them were,” even though he has the files! So this guy was taking like, the worst notes. I guess he didn't have his lab assistant with him, so I guess that's why. And Sam goes, “You know, in most cases, this is the time when we would call Bobby.” Oh, god, I just remember the line from “The Man Who Would be King” where Dean says, “This is around the time we would call Cas.” Anyway! [laughs]

G: Yeah.

C: Yeah. So Dean goes, “Oh my god! That's a great idea! Let's go talk to Bobby by taking some of the dream root and then going inside his head!” And Sam is not sure about this 'cause he thinks this would be a bad situation, and Dean goes, “Dude. It's Bobby.” Which is sweet.

G: Yeah.

C: And Sam goes, “Yeah, okay.” Sam also says-

G: You know what the "Dude, it's Bobby" reminded me?

C: "It's Cas."

G: Yeah! [laughs] We literally need to meet him ASAP. We're just thinking about him all the fucking time.

C: Yeah.

G: Literally because it's Cas. Augh!

C: It's Cas!

G: Sorry, Bobby! Sorry that we are contributing your contributions to the show to Cas. And we will do it again.

C: And we will do it again.

So Sam says that they're out of African dream root, and Dean goes, “Aw, fucking shit. Okay, I'm gonna have to call Bela to ask for it. Okay, fine.”

So- oh my god! You get to do this scene!

G: [laughs] Yeah.

C: [laughs] Have fun!

G: So Sam is, you know, in the room. He's doing research when suddenly, somebody doorbells- or knocks, I guess. They're in a motel room. Somebody knocks, and he opens the door, and he's like “Ugh. Eugh.” Like, that's his reaction upon opening. Because it's Bela.

C: She's wearing a trenchcoat. Just like Cas! [both laugh]

G: She's wearing a trenchcoat, and then Sam is like “Oh, I didn't know you’d show up.” And he’s like, annoyed. Yeah. And she's like, [flirtatiously] “Yeah, I'm full of surprises. But you know why I'm here?” [C starts laughing] And then she takes off her trenchcoat, and she's wearing lingerie. And Sam’ is like, looking away, kinda. Like, he's trying to be polite, and also like, a little bit ashamed. And she starts walking towards him. And he's like, "Um. Okay...?" Like, he's like, super ashamed. And Bela is like, [flirtatiously] “I'm here because of you.” And she goes, “I can’t stop thinking about you!” And then, Sam is like, [swooning] “What? What?” [C laughs] And then they kiss. And yeah. Sam goes, “Are you sure?” which I thought was so sweet!

C: It was kinda sweet.

G: "Are you sure?" And then it cuts to them in bed. And Sam is literally eating her out. Slay!

C: So true.

G: Slay. He's got pussy breath.

C: [laughs] Yes.

G: And yeah. And then, Sam, he starts hearing a voice going, “Wake up, wake up!” Oh, by the way, Bela- like, we know he's eating her out because we can't see him, and Bela is just going, [breathily] "Ah! Ah ah ah!" [C laughs] Yeah.

C: Yeah.

G: I can't believe I just did that. [C laughing] That is my recreation of moans. It reminds me of that post that's like-

C: [laughing] Anyone who found our podcast through a search that didn't have “supernatural” in it is like, “Finally! I've been waiting 50 episodes!" [both laughing]

G: This one reminds me of like, you know, those ones that was like, "Bottoms, makes some noise!" And then the next comment is like, moaning noises, and the next comment is like, "Nevermind!" That's how I feel about my- the noises I just made right now.

C: [laughs] So true.

G: Literally "nevermind."

Anyway, Dean is calling Sam, and he's saying, "Wake up! Wake up!" And then Sam wakes up, and he's like, wiping his face, and he's like, "Oh my god." [C laughs] And Dean asks, "What are you dreaming about? You were like, making some very happy noises, so..." And Sam's like, "What? I'm not- I'm not- I- [stammering] I wasn't dreaming!" And Dean was like, "Come on. You can tell me. Like, Angelina Jolie?" And Sam goes, "No." And Dean goes, "Brad Pitt?" [screams]

C: "Brad Pitt?"

G: Bisexual rights.

C: Bi Sam rights!

G: And Sam goes, "What? No! It doesn't matter!" And Dean's like, "Whatever. I called Bela." And Sam's like, "Eu- um- ah." And it's like, Sam is fully bricked up in this moment. Like, I need you guys to understand. Like, it's like, they show it- I mean, they don't show it, but like [C laughs], he's looking down, and he's like, arranging himself in his seat, and it's such a fun scene. Especially what comes next, which is that- so Sam's like, "Oh, Bela, wh-wh-what? Did she- did she... answer?" And Dean is like, "No, she didn't." And then suddenly, somebody knocks.

C: Yup.

G: And it's Bela. And she's wearing a black trenchcoat this time. Like, she enters, she hands them dream root, and it's a whole thing. And Sam is in the background going like-

C: When she takes off her coat, and Sam's like, going like- [heavy, panicked breathing] But she's wearing regular clothes underneath.

G: Yeah, like, he like, almost stands from his chair. He's like, “Huuuh?” And then when he realizes that she's wearing a shirt underneath, he's like, “Oh, okay. We're good.” Like, he keeps on trying to be like, “Oh, Bela, what's going on now? How are you?” [laughs] And it's so stupid!

C: "I'm normal. I feel normal things."

G: "I'm normal."

C: What was the point of this scene? Like, it's hilarious, but what was the point?

G: I mean, a part of me is like- "I mean, of course they need to like-" I mean, Bela is becoming a person in this show.

C: Yeah. So, gotta backtrack.

G: Yeah. Like, a part of me is like, “Are they backtracking from making her more than just like, a love interest? Are they trying to make her a love interest?" Like, obviously not, because if they're trying to make her a love interest, it should have been with Dean.

C: Yeah.

G: And it would probably- maybe, like, the juxtaposition of like, "Oh, maybe she has a thing going on with Dean, but it's Sam who's having this absolutely hilarious experience." [C laughs] Like, maybe that? I think maybe that's what they're doing. And I think it's effective.

C: Mm.

G: Yeah. So Dean asks like, “Why did you bring us the dream root? I thought you didn't- or, you wouldn't.” And she said, “Oh, you said it was for Bobby Singer. And he owes- I owe him something. He saved my life. In Flagstaff." And yeah. Sam and Dean are like, “Huh. What is this girl hiding?” She's like, “Well, he just- I fucked up and he saved my life, okay?” And she wants to participate in the dream root escapade. However, Sam and Dean are like, "No, you're not doing that." So yeah. Bela is like, “It's 2 AM. Where am I supposed to go?” And Dean was like, “Get a room. Like, there's Magic Fingers and Casa Erotica. You'll be fine.” And Sam, of course is like, [dazed] "Uh." [both laugh] For a second, I was like, "Is Sam gonna invite her to stay?" That would be absolutely- like, that would be kind of fucking funny. Yeah. But that's not what happened. And anyway, she's like- Oh, by the way, like at this point, Dean opens the safe. We see him open a safe and put the dream root in there, and there's also the Colt in the safe, and Bela sees all this. Which is gonna be important!

C: Good for her.

G: Good for her.

G: And then Bela finally leaves, and Sam’s like, “Bye, Bela! Nice to see you! Nice to- Bela, nice to see you!” [C laughs] He's so important to me.

C: Yeah. He's-

G: He's such a fucking weirdo.

C: Love this loser.

C: So we cut to a little bit later, and Sam has prepared two cups of tea with the dream root, and Dean makes another, like, I think, tripping on acid joke where he says, “We should dim the lights and sync up ‘Wizard of Oz’ to ‘Dark Side of the Moon.’” And when Sam's like, "Huh?" Dean goes, "What did you do during college?"

G: It's this just like, a weed thing? This is a weed thing, right?

C: Oh, yeah, a weed thing, probably. Yeah.

So Dean takes out an- or, who? No, Sam takes out an envelope and puts hairs in their cups. So apparently, you need a body part from the person in order to enter their dream. So here's Bobby's hair. And Dean goes, “Well, I guess it’s better than some other parts of the body.” And they drink, and it feels like nothing has changed. And then, they hear that it is raining outside, and when they look outside, the rain is moving up. And now they're in the house that Bobby was dreaming about. And Dean says that Bobby is dreaming about Better Homes and Gardens, which I guess he just means that the interior design of this place is nice.

G: I mean, I think it's sarcastic.

C: Right, okay.

G: I think it's sarcastic, yeah.

C: Yeah. And then Sam realizes like, “Hey, like, this is literally Bobby's house, just without all the books and the clutter from before.”

G: Which impresses me. Because we know what happened in this house. We find out later. The fact that he still lives there- I mean, real estate, not that bad in 2007! So-

C: [laughs] Yeah. Yeah. Well, he also has the scrapyard, though, right?

G: Oh, yeah. It's just behind the house. Yeah. I can see why that is

C: Yup.

So we have- Sam says that he's gonna go look outside, and Dean decides to stay inside.

G: Yeah. As Sam moves outside, it turns into a very colorful thing, reminiscent of like, season 8. Which is such a funny thing to say. "Reminiscent of this season- This season 3 episode is reminiscent of a season 8 episode." [C laughs] But like, you know what I mean. It's like, super-saturated...

C: Yeah, it's sort of like the coloring in “Changing Channels” in the opening sitcom sequence- title sequence.

G: Yeah. And also the rest of like, [laughing] season 14 or something. So-

C: Yeah. It's also just late seasons Supernatural.

G: Yeah. And as he's walking around- I don't know. He sees like- he tries to peek inside the house, and Dean is still there, so we keeps walking. Also, he gets locked out of the house, so he can’t enter the house anymore. And he's just walking and walking around. Meanwhile, Dean is inside, and he's shouting. It's so funny to me, because literally Dean is like, "There's plot! He's going through things! Things are happening to him!" And Sam is like, [flatly] “I'm outside!” [both laugh] Literally, that's the part of this segment of the episode.

C: Yup.

G: Like, I need you to remember, the entire time, Sam is just outside. [C laughing] He is literally just outside.

C: Yeah. [laughing] They took him to a farm where all the happy little dogs run around freely, and you'll never see him again, but I promise he's alive.

G: Exactly.

So what happens is, Dean finds Bobby, and Bobby is like, he has a scar on his face-

C: You said Dean's been yelling. Dean's been yelling “Bob-BAY!” [G laughs] the way he yells “Sam-MAY!” or whatever. It's hilarious.

G: Yeah! "Sammay! Bobbay!" But yeah, Bobby is in there. And he's like, "How did you find me?"

C: He's in the closet.

G: Yeah. And he has this very ugly scar on the side of his face. And I say ugly because it looks fake as hell.

C: It's a little scratch.

G: Yeah, it's a little scratch. And when Sam and Dean gets scratched, it's like, "Wow."

C: Hot.

G: Hot. When it's Bobby- We're so mean to old men yet again. Sorry, old men. But yeah. I mean, I get that scratches look like that. Like, sometimes scratches in real life really do look cartoonish, but like, come on.

Yeah. So he doesn't recognize what the fuck Dean is saying about the dream root and everything. He thinks this is real. And what happens is there's like a lady that comes in, and she's bloody. And Bobby is like-

C: She's wearing a white nightgown. [laughing]

G: Yeah. Oh my god! She's wearing a white nightgown. And Bobby is like, pointing at her and going, “Doesn't she looks real?” And he's trying to go away. And Dean goes, “Who is that?” And Bobby doesn't even say her name. He just says, “That's my wife.” Which like, I don't like that.

C: Yeah.

G: I don't like that.

C: Right. Do we ever get a name for her?

G: I think her name's Karen, but, like, I don't think we get a name right now. He doesn't say like, “That's Karen. That's my wife.” Like, he just says, “That's my wife.” And I- Like, we've talked about like how Supernatural kind of reduces women to their roles in the life of the men, and like, this is not egregious because it's like, that's just what happens when you're introducing someone. You know, you introduce them by what they are to you. Your relationship. But it's just like, a pet peeve of mine, so like, let me get on my soapbox about this. Like, I don't like it when people do that. When people are like, talking about someone, and instead of saying like - like, unless you're trying to hide their anonymity or something- "hide their anonymity"- you're trying to make them anonymous, hide their identity - like, just say their name. Is this bad? I mean, is this something?

C: No, I think you're right. Yeah, I think “My wife Karen” would be a lot better than, “That's mah wife.”

G: “That's mah wife.” I mean, you know, like, the whole Try Guys thing-

C: [barely audible] Try Guys?

G: - and like, the whole like, “wifeguys who end up being like-” Why did you just whisper "Try Guys?" to yourself? Like, do you not know what I'm talking about?

C: No, I know what the drama is, but I wasn't sure about how it was relevant.

G: No, like, he's very “my wife” guy, but like, I feel like there is a connection with people who only refer to their significant others as specifically just “my significant other” even though they don't have to and like, you know, people who are kind of shit. [laughs] So. I- honestly, I don't even know what I'm talking about. Let's just proceed. But yeah. "She's mah wife."

C: No, I get it being annoying in this episode where the 3 main women are Lisa fantasy, Bela who spends about as much time in a sex dream as she does in real life, and then Bobby's wife, Karen. I understand.

G: Yeah. Yeah. Like, because of Supernatural's history, it's like, something you notice, and you're like, “Ah. They're doing it again. And like, yeah, it's less egregious this time. But like, it reminds me of the times where it's more egregious," you know.

C: Yeah. And she's literally in a white nightgown, you guys.

G: She's literally in a white nightgown! [sighs] Yeah.

C: We see in the motel, Sam and Dean are still sleepy time.

G: I wish that was me for real. [C laughs]

C: And yeah, Sam is literally just outside. He's just a beautiful meadow with flowers and shit. Meanwhile, Karen's going like, “Bobby, why did you do this to me? Like, you stabbed me with a knife again and again, and you watched me die. How could you?” And Bobby's crying. He says, “You were possessed, and I didn't know how to save you back then.” And Karen goes like, “Well, no. You wanted me dead. If you'd loved me, you would have found a way.” So yeah. Okay. So possessed like, by a ghost?

G: I think by a demon.

C: Wait, stabbing her wouldn't have- well, I guess it would have- can't demons pilot dead vessels? Can they not?

G: They can, but, like, Bobby doesn't know that, we're assuming.

C: Okay, so are we thinking that he killed her, and then the demon kept piloting her dead body? Until what?

G: Until she... I don't know! I mean, there's probably more to this, right? Like-

C: Why was the demon even after him? Like- Yeah.

G: This is like, an interesting backstory, and I would be disappointed if they were like, “Let's just drop it completely.” Or maybe they should have. I don't know.

C: Yeah, like, what was the demon doing there? What's the deal? Oh, well, I guess we'll never know.

G: They're like, "Bobby is going to be a very good member of the hunter community, and we need to get him in there somehow!" So. Just accept it. It's fine.

C: Bobby basically says that, right? He's like, “Well, you have to enter hunting somehow.”

G: Yeah. [laughs]

C: Yeah. Sam sees Jeremy from earlier with a baseball bat, and Sam is screaming and crying for help, and halfway through, he realizes that it's more about killing him than it ever was protecting himself. [laughing] Do you know what song I’m referencing?

G: Absolutely not.

C: It's “Father” by The Front Bottoms. I feel like-

G: The Front Bottoms??

C: I know, it's not a good band, but the song is pretty good.

Anyway, so- [G laughs] Yeah, Sam’s getting beat up. Sorry, dude. And Jeremy is like, “You don't belong here. Your friend came after me and wanted to hurt me.” Sam was like, “Well, yeah, because you kill people,” and Jeremy says, [whiny] “You should be nicer to me in here. You're just an insect. I’m a god!” [both laugh] God, this guy is fucking unbearable!

G: This guy is like a caricature of a bad person.

C: I know. College guys are just like this, though. [laughs] Have you considered that college guys are just like this?

G: Like, I get that he has trauma, and that he has, you know, he like, he talks about like, “Not dreaming is like, not sleeping at all.”

C: Which I don't think is true.

G: I mean, I don't know what it's like to not have the capability to dream. Like, who knows? Maybe they based this on something.

C: Maybe.

G: But like, is that enough? Is that enough to become like, this kind of person? Maybe. [C laughs]

C: Maybe. Who knows? Ugh. He's so funny? Yeah, so-

G: [yawns] Oh, it's still you.

C: So Dean's trying to tell Bobby like, “This is a nightmare. This is your dream, and you can wake up.” So yeah, Dean tells Bobby like, “You have to snap out of this now. I am not going to let you die. You're like a father to me.” Awww. And that works. Bobby goes like, “Oh, shit! I'm dreaming?” And then he imagines Karen gone, and she is gone.

G: And she disappears, yeah.

C: Yeah. And Dean tells Bobby, “Well, now you have to wake up.” So Jeremy is just about to kill Sam with a baseball bat [G laughing], but mid-swing, they all wake up.

G: Yeah. Anyway, they're now in the hospital, and Bobby’s still in the hospital bed, and they're like, putting all the papers on the table. And they're saying like, “Bobby, is this is stuff with your wife real?” And Bobby is like, “Yeah. Everybody got into hunting somehow.” Yeah. But Sam comes in, and he's like, “The guy is not in his dorm room anymore.” And what happened is like this guy is like, you know, he's like, super intelligent, which is not- I don't know how that's relevant, but they say it. 160 IQ.

C: Yeah, they're like, “His IQ is 160!” Like, who give a single shit. Also, we learn that his dad beat him up with a baseball bat.

G: Yeah. Anyway, the guy, the father is like- they gave us so much information on the dad, and I was like, “Why?” And I mean, I was like- During watching the episode, I was like, “Oh my god! Why are they getting so much information? I bet this is gonna be relevant.” And then it wasn't, and I was like. “Why were they giving so much information?” It was not relevant.

C: It was a tiny bit relevant.

G: But yeah. We learned that the father is 5’11, which I love. [laughs] Literally, 5'11 rights.

C: I mean, they had to make a fake driver's license, and that's all information that has to be on there. But yeah, it is weird that all of it was in focus.

G: Yeah, I mean what we needed to see was his face. Because he's gonna show up later, and we need to be able to recognize that “Oh, that's the father." By the way, which I didn’t. [both laugh] I was like, “Who is this random guy?” So I love that. Yeah. And he died before Jeremy was 10. And he, like, gave him the injury which made him unable to dream.

C: Yeah. And also, the specific thing is called Charcot-Wilbrand syndrome, which- It was a thing, but very rare.

G: I thought that was [laughs]- you know, honestly, when he said that, I thought he said like, "He gave him an injury, a la Charcot Wilbrand." And I thought Charcot Wilbrand was just a guy who like, [laughing] batted people with it? [both laughing] [screams]

C: So true.

G: What is happening. [both] Yeah. So...

Yeah. They were like, “Doesn't he need like, a part of your DNA to get into your head?” And Bobby is like, “It was such a stupid thing. He offered me some beer, and I drank it.” And Dean was like, [overlapping, mocking] "I don't think it was that stupid! It's not stupid, what are you talking about?" And Sam's like, "Oh, damn it, Dean. Did you fucking drink the beer?" And he was like, "Yeah, he offered it to me!" And Bobby says like, “We better work fast and like, drink a fuckton of coffee because you can't fucking sleep.”

C: Yep. So we cut to 2 days later, and Dean's driving. [stammers] What's wrong with this man's brain? I'm- ugh. And Sam offers. He's like, “Are you sure that you don't want me to drive because you have not slept for 2 days?” And Dean's like, [slurred, angry] “No, I'm fine. Shut up.” Yeah. I fear for Sam's life. I fear for Dean's life.

G: I feel, the thing is like, when, during the scene, he's like, super angry, super pissed. And so later, when he's super angry and super pissed at his dream self, it loses its effect. I wish his sleepiness was portrayed in any other way than, "He's cwanky!" You know?

C: Mm, yeah.

G: Because I feel like it detracts from scenes later. Like, literally, when he was beating himself up, I was like, "He just needs some sleep!" [both laugh]

C: Yeah. God.

So Dean is angy. He's so, so angy. And he calls Bobby and tells Bobby that he looked for the guy at the strip club, and Jeremy was not there. Bobby's also angy. And Bela is using her spirit board to try to ask some ghosts where Jeremy is, but she says that she can't get anything. And Dean goes, “Great. Well, I'm just gonna go blow my brains out now.”

G: Go, Dean! Go, Dean!

C: Go, Dean! [both laugh]

G: We're so mean. We're so fucking mean.

C: Yeah, no, okay, we do not encourage suicide. However, I do think that- I don't like Dean unfiltered most of the time, but that line was kind of fun. That is how I talk, so. [laughs]

So Bobby asks Bela, “Hey, why are you helping us?” And Bela goes, like, “Bobby, you don't remember? At Flagstaff.” And we find out later she's just totally trying to plant a fake memory in his head. I love it when women lie. And Bobby’s like, “Sure...”

So yeah, Dean pulls over and he's like, “Okay. I'm just- I'm going to sleep. Because we cannot find Jeremy, so he should come to us.” And Sam goes, “Well, you're not gonna face him alone.” He grabs some of Dean’s hair, and Dean goes, "I don't want you digging around inside my head, so don't." And Sam goes, “Meh. Too bad.” And then they both drink the tea and go to sleep.

G: Yeah.

C: I love how they set this up for like, “Sam's gonna learn things about Dean!” and then they put- like, they just like, lock Sam outside and then beat him up for an hour. [laughs]

G: [laughs] Yeah.

G: So Sam wakes up. Dean wakes up. And they go out, and they come across this garden with a picnic happening. And the person doing the picnic is... Lisa! And all the while, [C laughing] “Dream a Little Dream of Me” is playing.

C: Also, it looks- So there's a spotlight that like opens like over her little patch of grass.

G: Yeah, it's like, "she's angelic" is what was happening

C: [laughing] Like Cas? [G laughs]

G: Yeah. And Lisa is like, “Oh, come on, we need to pick Ben up in an hour from baseball.” And Dean is like, looks at Sam like, "I've never had this dream before!" And then Lisa goes, “I love you.” [both laugh] Eugh! Eugh.

C: Eww.

G: Eww.

C: Eww.

G: And Dean is like, "Don't look at me like that!" And suddenly, like, the lights disappear, and Sam disappears, and Jeremy is there. And yeah. They start running, but they get separated, and Dean ends up in this little room where he is there. Like, he is- how would I describe this scene? Like, another Dean is like, sitting over at the desk, and he's like, turning a motel lamp on and off. And it's actually pretty creepy. When this happened, I was like, "Ooh, intrigue." And then Dean turns around. Dean asks if it's Jeremy, but other!Dean turns around, and it's other!Dean. And Dean is trying to be funny. He's like, "Oh, look at you. You're so handsome! Look at you." And other!Dean is like, "Oh, Dean. We need to talk." And they start circling each other like prey, like animals. And Dean goes, "Oh, I get it. I'm my own worst nightmare. Yeah. Mano y mano with myself, huh?" And like, here's the thing. If you're gonna do something corny, would you rather acknowledge it or not?

C: I think that lampshading is a way for writers to feel better about themselves.

G: Yeah, but I don't feel better! [laughs] The most important person here is me.

C: I feel like I have the type of personality- I have the type of personality where I would lampshade and be like, [whiny/teary] "And that shows that I'm smart, and every time you criticize me, I already know, so get over it!" [both laugh] But yeah, I recognize it's not actually a good writing trait to have.

G: Yeah. I mean- [sighs]. Where are we? [both laugh] I'm so sorry! I enjoy recording these podcasts. [C laughs] However, I am so sleepy. Like, sometimes, you're just sleepy, you know?

C: Yeah. You have to dream a little- I don't even want to finish that. [both laugh] Anyway.

G: So other!Dean is like, "I know you're being a smartass, but you can't lie to me. I know how dead you are, how worthless you feel. I know you look in the mirror and hate what you see-"

C: Don't we get this from every demon ever in every single episode ever? Like, who give a shit at this point?

G: Yeah, I think the only part here that I truly give a shit about is like, what comes next. So okay, let's just go through the scene, and I'll speak about it when it's there. Dean is like, "Oh, you can't- you're not real. You know if I snap my fingers, you're just gonna disappear?" And then he snaps his fingers, and he doesn't disappear. Ooh.

C: Tee-hee.

So Sam thinks that he is awake. And he tries- And he thinks that Dean is there next to him, so he tries to wake Dean up, but it's Jeremy! And Jeremy [both laughing] hits him in the face with the baseball bat.

G: Why is this so funny? I'm sorry you're getting hurt, Sam Winchester, but have we considered the comedic value?

C: Yeah. I just think that baseball that are a very fun weapon. Like, if there is no spikes on them, then it's just funny. If there are spikes, I'm like, "Okay, that's kind of cool."

So they have a little bit of a talk that means nothing. Jeremy says that the doctor got him hooked on the dream root, and then took it away, so he killed the doctor in order to get more. Can't you just steal? Is it that hard?

G: I mean, yeah, I don't know. I feel like it's way too much work to like, kill someone.

C: Yeah. It really is. Jeremy's motivations this episode are super like, not well-defined or well-written.

G: Yeah, he's just an evil guy.

C: He's just a guy, and he wants to be evil.

G: And I love how they never even brought up once the whole like, [seriously] "He's human." Like- [both laugh] None of that this episode.

C: That's true!

G: Literally, they do not give a shit. [C laughs]

C: So he says that, you know, like, "You're not able to dream for 15 years, so it's basically like you're awake the whole time." I don't know how sleep science works. That doesn't seem right, but, you know. Who even knows? Apparently, this has made him go "crazy," as Sam puts it. And he tells Sam to leave him alone. Sam says no. And then [laughing], Jeremy ties Sam to railroad spikes?!

G: He's crucified.

C: Yeah, he's yeah, he's crucified. It's a good pose for Sam to be in. Sam should always be crucified. And Jeremy's like, "You and your brother aren't gonna wake up this time!" Ooh. Yeah. Love it.

G: Love it! [both laugh]

G: So back in Dean and other!Dean, other!Dean is like, "You're going to Hell, and you don't even want to save yourself. Talk about low self-esteem. But I guess there's not much of a life worth saving, is there?" And he goes like, "You're nothing, and you're an attack dog. What are the things you want, even? What are the things you dream? I mean, your car, your jacket, your music, all of it is Dad's. Do you even have an original thought?" And he says, like, "All of your thoughts are just, 'Save Sammy. Watch out for Sammy.' And it's just your dad's voice." And it makes me so sad, the idea that the voice of a person in your head is anyone else other than yourself.

C: Yeah.

G: I mean, it's just- it's such a sad idea, especially, I guess, if it's like, a parent who you don't particularly have a good relationship with.

C: Right. It's okay if you have another voice sometimes like, for encouragement or something if you're at an intermediate place where you can't give yourself confidence, sure. But like, if the voice is a parent, and it's just saying, "You're not good enough," well, F to that, I guess.

G: Yeah! Like, in this context it's sucks so bad. Especially because, like, Dean believes the things he will say later. But these are still the thoughts in his head.

[C starts humming]

Yeah, it makes me- why are you humming? What's happening? [laughing] Are you humming "I Miss You"? I hate you so much. [C laughs]

C: By Blink-182?

G: You will do anything to bring that song up into the podcast. [C laughs] No, nonono. You got it all wrong. Not by Blink-182, but by 5 Seconds of Summer. [laughing]

C: [laughing] Right. The cover by 5 Seconds of Summer. I'm sorry.

G: Yeah. This is one of those-

C: The best version of it.

G: Yeah. It's literally the best version of it, and I would fight anyone who says otherwise. [C laughs] I love how we're just not explaining this. What even is there to explain?

C: Well, yeah, that this is a song, and one of the lines is, "Don't waste your time on me, you're already the voice inside my head." And you kept saying the phrase "voice inside his head," so yeah, that's the end of that.

G: Yeah, and also, I love this song. I love this song. And we've talked about it several times in the podcast, already, I think, how much I love this song, which is so funny to me. It has become a brand. Yeah.

C: Yeep.

G: Did you just say "eep"? What's happening?

C: I said "Yeep"! It's like "yep," but for cool kids!

G: Is it really? Is that the new college slang in the United States?

C: No, but it will be [G laughs] once I talk to one person besides my suitemates.

G: That's wonderful. I'll be sure to propagate it in my own university here in the Philippines.

C: Thank you.

G: And other!Dean keeps on talking. "All John did was train you, boss you around. And he doted on Sam, but you? He never loved. He fucking hated you! You're just a soldier. Daddy's blunt little instrument!" [C scream/laughs]

C: I'm obsessed with how they wrote this line, and they were like, "This is so good, we need to bring it up in every single season" and it's literally the worst phrase in the entire world.

G: I mean, they didn't bring it up in every single season, they just brought it up in the very last one.

C: Yes. And it was hilarious. Every time I watch the confession scene, I start bursting into laughter at that line.

G: You know what?

C: I laugh through most of the confession, but that's where it really gets me laughing. What?

G: The confession scene, it's like it didn't even happen anymore in my head. I don't know how to describe it, but like, I feel so disconnected from the end of Supernatural already that I'm afraid it's when we get there during this podcast, I will be emotionally distraught all over again because like- I'm afraid I will go through the emotions of it again. And if you saw me, if you fucking saw me going through the emotions of it, it was bad. So like, I'm worried.

C: Aww, yeah.

G: But yeah. It's a funny scene. [laughs]

C: You had a- what was it? Like, a 3-month depression over Dean Winchester's death?

G: I wouldn't say it was a 3-month depression. I would say it's a 3-month spiral that ended in depression.

C: Yeah, okay.

G: It was- it was volatile.

C: I see.

G: It was like, I was happy; I was sad; I wasn't eating, but it was because of joy and then being upset. It was such a weird and complicated time of my life, which I'm sure, most of the people who were into Supernatural at the time could relate. What a weird time. Like, it was like a shared experience. You know, like, the period between the confession and the end of Supernatural, many of us were like, "I can't eat. I can't sleep."

C: Yeah.

G: Which is like, it's wild.

C: It is.

G: Yeah, anyway, Dean finally- oh, yeah, other!Dean says, "Your own father didn't care whether you lived or died. Why should you?" And then Dean, our Dean, goes, "Son of a bitch!" which is how you know he's our Dean. And he pushes dream!Dean, and he's super angry, and he's like, "My father was an obsessed bastard!" And yeah. I mean, "He wasn't there for Sam. I always was. I didn't deserve what he put on me, and I don't deserve to go to Hell." Before that, he says like, "All the crap he dumped on me, that was his crap. He's the one who couldn't protect his family. He wasn't there for Sam," blah blah blah. And yeah, "I don't want to go to Hell."

C: And he blames him for Mary's death [G laughs], which was weird.

G: I don't know. Like, what he's saying is like-

C: Like, slay, I guess. [both laugh]

G: - it's John's guilt. What he's saying is that it's John's guilt, and John decided that it's gonna become Dean's guilt as well. Like, he's not saying that it's Dad's fault. He's saying that Dad thinks it's Dad's fault- why am I calling him Dad? [C laughs] But you know what I mean.

C: Dean kinnie.

G: Ugh. You could not pay me to admit that. [both laugh]

C: Mm. Alright. Yeah.

G: He shoots dream!Dean, and it's a whole thing. Dean, like, approaches other!Dean, and as he goes inside, other!Dean like, wakes up, and his eyes are completely back. And he goes, "You can't escape me, Dean! You're gonna die. And this? This is what you're gonna become!" It's like, a very famous scene.

C: Yeah. And he's right about both things, but there are 6 seasons between his 2 sentences.

G: 6 seasons?

C: Oh, because Dean does become a demon in season 10, but he dies in season 4. I guess he also dies before becoming a demon in season 10, so.

G: I was thinking, like, "This is what you're gonna become? A bad person." I mean, he becomes that a little bit earlier, right? [C laughs]

C: Yeah, that happens earlier.

G: So I was like, "Eh, not sure about that." Yeah.

C: And meanwhile, in the Jeremy-Sam world [both laugh], [laughing] Jeremy's just kicking Sam and hitting him in the legs with the baseball bat.

G: Yeah, and he's like, "I'm a god here. You can't stop me." And it's like, "Dude."

C: I mean, if I was a god, I would have a better, funner way to kill people than kick them and hit them with a baseball bat.

G: I would be a more ruthless and egregious god than Jeremy, that's for sure.

C: Yeah. Jeremy does not deserve to be God, but I do. So. [both laugh]

So yeah, he's like, "I'm invincible because of the dream root!" And Sam's like, "Well, you forgot that I also took it." And then he [barely comprehensible due to laughter/screaming] summons Jeremy's abusive dad! It's so funny, it's so fucking funny.

G: And they never were like, "Maybe this is a bad thing?" Like, never in the episode.

C: They never were like, "Maybe this happening right after Dean calling his father an obsessed bastard-" They were never like, "Maybe there are parallels here or something we should consider." They were just like, "No, this guy sucks, and his dad was mean."

G: I mean, I'm sure the parallels were intentional. But like, it's just absolutely hilarious that it's portrayed like this. You know what I mean?

C: Yeah! It's almost comical the way that his abusive dad shows up, and he's like, "Jeremy! I'm mad at you!" and Jeremy goes, "Oh, noo!" and then he starts running or something. Geez.

Jeremy- like, Sam starts hitting Jeremy. And then [laughing] Jeremy fucking dies! [both scream-laughing. this continues until the next scene break]

G: They literally kill this-!

C: So they're definitely done with not killing humans. Like, they not give a-

G: They do not- they do not give a shit! They do not give a shit! Yeah.

C: And the boys- they wake up. They're awake. Yeah. That's the end. Of that scene. Okay! Next.

G: I mean, so Bobby and Sam are walking down the hallway, and it's like, Bobby is like, "So what happened?" and Sam explains, and Bobby is like, "So are you sure it's dream root and not your... thing? Psychic stuff?"

C: "You know, how you like- you and guys, you sort of- you, you, you sort of like, you know, touching m-men, and how you're gay. It's not about that?" [G laughs]

G: It's so funny! Wait, I'm going to read my post that I made after this. "Supernatural really is like, 'Now replace "psychic" with "gay." Not so funny, isn't it?" [C laughs] And I stand with that post, 100%.

C: Yes.

G: Literally replace "psychic" with "gay." It's not so funny now, isn't it? [both] Yeah.

And Sam was like, "No. I mean, I don't think so." And yeah. They enter the hotel room, and Dean is like, "Where's Bela? I mean, she's not answering her phone. She must have taken off, and it's a little weird." And Bobby is like, "It's weird to me why she helped us in the first place." And Dean is like, "I thought you saved her life in Flagstaff." And Bobby said like, "Oh, that was an amulet. I gave her a good deal, that's all." And Bobby like, in realization goes, "Oh, check your pockets. She must have taken something." And they literally check their pockets. And Bobby is like, "You stupid fucks. Not literally! [laughs] Like, check what you have." And then they realize that the Colt is gone from the vault.

C: Yeah!

G: She stole the Colt. And Dean calls her "bitch"!

C: Yeah. He's learned nothing.

G: "We're gonna hunt that bitch down." [both] Yeah.

C: Okay, like, they know how to make demon-killing bullets. Do they need the Colt for that?

G: I think so, yeah.

C: Can't they just put those in any gun?

G: No, they need the Colt.

C: What's the- okay, so it's not just the bullets

G: It's the Colt.

C: Well, they needed the bullets too.

G: Yeah. But it's also the Colt.

C: How does the Colt work?

G: I mean, it's like a lock and key, I feel. Or, no, that's not an appropriate thing. It's like a Gatorade pod. [laughs]

C: A what?

G: [laughing] You need the bottle and you need the pod. There's a thing going on in like, Youtube shorts, which is my TikTok, because I don't have TikTok. I just watch YouTube shorts. So there's like, this new Gatorade product - this just sounds like a promotion, but I hate this thing. It's like a ready-made bottle, right?

C: If Gatorade wants to sponsor us, though, I don't hate it. I love Gatorade pod. [both laugh]

G: And it's like, you buy the bottle. It's like $27 or $25. And you buy the little pods, and you fill up the bottle with water, and then you pop the pod in on top, so that it disperses the Gatorade concentrate onto the water, and then you throw the pod away. So it's like a waste of plastic, I feel like. Also, like, it's just so fucking expensive, and for what? And the bottle is ugly, too. [C laughs] Those are my complaints. And yeah. And I mean, people are into it. And like, for that one, you need the pod to use the bottle, but also, you need the bottle to use the pod. [laughing] And I feel like that's what happening with the Colt. [both laughing]

C: Great. Love it.

G: Yeah.

C: Alright. We have the ending scene where Sam and Dean are heading out, and Dean asks what Sam saw in his head. And Sam's like, "Oh, like, literally nothing. It was just Jeremy beating me up." [laughs]

G: And he's being for real. I mean, it's so true, though. I mean, he's hiding the Lisa thing, yea, obviously.

C: Yeah, he is hiding the Lisa thing, and yeah, I feel like that does matter a bit. I feel like his wish at the end of "Swan Song" for Dean to like, go and live a normal life, like, maybe with Lisa is probably based off of that. Because he sorta has a look of realization when he sees that. I feel like he isn't really fully aware of how much Dean doesn't want to hunt.

G: Yeah.

C: Or maybe, is he aware? He is sort of aware, because Dean always has his "I'm tired of hunting, and I want to die" thing. But I guess Sam didn't realize that Dean had something else that he wanted to do instead.

So yeah, so they get in the car, and Dean says, "Hey, Sam, I've been doing some thinking, and the thing is, I don't want to die. And I don't want to go to Hell." And Sam, you know, goes, "Okay. Then we'll find a way to save you." And Dean goes, "Okay, good."

G: And then the most weird- [both laughing]

C: And I wish they ended the fucking episode there, and instead-

G: The weird- the weirdest editing choice ever! [C laughs] They were like, "Let's end this episode with the demon!Dean- the other!Dean who goes, 'This is- you're gonna die, and this is what you're gonna become!'" which is what they do.

C: Yeah. But then what happens is, in that part, Dean- Okay, also, this is black and white, which is so fucking ugly.

G: Yeah.

C: It's disgusting. Yeah, but after this, Dean snaps his fingers, and his eyes are black, and then the screen goes black. [laughs] So. Okay.

G: What?

C: What?

G: I didn't see this. What are you talking about?

C: Okay, so I looked up a little bit about the writers' strike, and it didn't happen until they'd already written episode 12, so this isn't like, "Oh, we've realized that we can't end on hope here because we've realized that he is gonna go to Hell, so let's quickly add this back in." Well, maybe it is. Maybe it is this because they could have just reused old footage, and then like, put this part in. But it's still a bad editing choice. So what if people have hope? That's like, the point of suspense and shit.

G: That's the point. "Hope is the whole point!"

C: It literally is. [laughing]

G: What did we think about this episode? I mean, it's truly an episode.

C: Yeah. It sure is.

Yeah, I mean, sure, there's some Dean thesis moments that I could care about if I cared. But since I don't care, I don't. [both laugh]

G: I mean, I don't care that much, but like, it's an enjoyable episode to talk about and find.

C: It is.

G: Although not so much to watch.

C: Yeah. Yeah. I just think it's funny that they put Sam in another bank vault. Especially because Sera Gamble likes Sam, right?

G: Yeah.

C: Yeah. Was this part of Sera Gamble's sick fantasies? Remember how there was some interview where it was like, she wanted Sam to like, have a thing with a guy in a season, and Eric Kripke was like, "We're not gonna peddle to your sick fantasies, Sera Gamble."

G: Ugh. [sighs]

C: I mean, maybe for her it was a sick fantasy, but like, yikes.

So that was 40 minutes of TV.

G: Yeah. And 2 hours of commentary. [laughs]

C: Jesus.

G: What's our Best Line/Worst Line?

C: Ah. I don't know.

G: I think... I don't have a best line or a worst line. I mean, I like the, "I was growing ferns!" [both laughing]

C: That's your best line?

G: For best line, I should probably choose a better best line. Wait. I like that Dean- well, it's so cliche, like the whole like-

C: "You're like a father to me?"

G: No, like, "I don't deserve to go to Hell!" It's like, okay. We've seen it. We enjoy it.

C: Yeah. I guess I liked when Dean said Bobby was like a father to him, even though I feel like we haven't seen enough of their relationship to justify that yet. Because I know where it's gonna go, I'm like, "Yeah. Aw."

G: I mean, for me, my worst line is, [dramatic] "You're just an insect. I'm a god." [C laughs] Because it's so stupid given everything else that happened to the episode.

C: Yeah. Yeah. But Godstiel can do that and then fall flat on his face in mud, and I'll be like, "So true."

G: Yeah, exactly.

C: I guess- I don't know, my worst line is, I don't know, the didgeridoo one, I guess. That was fucking annoying.

G: What's our- what's this?

C: IMDb- or, our spreadsheet?

G: Yeah, our spreadsheet. Homophobia- not much.

C: No, no homophobia. I'd say 1 on racism and then-

G: Misogyny. Here we go.

C: Misogyny, there's definitely some.

G: I want to give this a 2, but I'm willing to bump it down to 1.

C: I- yeah. Yeah.

G: Like, their only portrayal of women being like, almost like, all fantastical, and like, you know, like there's women here, but are there really women here?

C: Right.

G: Like, Bela was an actual person. And I love her character, and I love what they're doing with her. But like, like you said, she has equivalent screen time, so like- her dream self has equivalent screen time to her actually self. So like, I don't know.

C: Yeah. Yeah, I think a 2 works.

G: Okay.

C: We gave "The Kids Are Alright" a 2, and I feel like it's similar levels of misogyny.

G: Yeah.

C: Yeah.

G: So, I mean, IMDb.

C: People are gonna think this was stupid, right?

G: No, I think people are gonna like this.

C: Because of the Dean talking to himself thing?

G: Yeah.

C: Oh, boo.

G: I mean, I'll probably give this an 8.5, just to- just to hedge my bets.

C: Okay. I'm gonna go for an 8.4.

G: Okay, let's see. Oh, you're right.

C: Oh? Oh? Am I? Well, that's exciting.

G: Yeah. 8.4.

C: Okay, what are the people saying?

G: I mean, everything is positive, so I don't want to read any of them. [laughing] I'm only a hater.

C: Oh, not even a little bit? No complaints at all?

G: There's one that's like, 7 over 10.

C: Okay. That's something.

G: "Bela is irritating."

C: Noo!

G: Ah, no. "The naiveness of the brothers with the tricky Bela is irritating." I didn't read the entire sentence.

C: Okay.

G: I mean, they're stupid. What can you do?

C: Yeah, they're stupid. Also, the last time she helped them was during "Fresh Blood," and that was like, without strings attached. I mean, she felt bad, but yeah.

G: Yeah, I mean that's the only negative review.

C: This one says, "For some reason, I really can't imagine a Sam/Bela affair. It just doesn't seem right. A Dean/Bela affair is more logical, though he will probably kill her, since she made a fool of him for like, the millionth time." Alright.

G: I love- I mean, you know this of me, but I love combos where like, the guy's kind of stupid and the girl is evil. I mean, Bela's not evil, but like, you know, I love that dynamic.

C: Yeah, a lot of people do, and I agree with them.

G: So yeah, I mean that's it for this episode of Busty Asian Beauties. Next week [laughs] hopefully, we will be discussing Season 3, Episode 11: "Mystery Spot." Leave us a rating or a review wherever you get your podcasts, unless you're frustrated by our very infrequent uploads, in which case don't leave a rating or review! [C laughs] Only if you love us.

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Transcript Episode 44: Schwa, the most versatile English vowel

This is a transcript for Lingthusiasm Episode 44: Schwa, the most versatile English vowel. It’s been lightly edited for readability. Listen to the episode here or wherever you get your podcasts. Links to studies mentioned and further reading can be found on the Episode 44 show notes page.

[Music]

Lauren: Welcome to Lingthusiasm, a podcast that’s enthusiastic about linguistics! I’m Lauren Gawne.

Gretchen: I’m Gretchen McCulloch. Today, we’re getting enthusiastic about schwa and stress. First, we made our LingComm grant goal! We’re now giving out three grants to linguistics communication projects. The deadline for those applications is the 1st of June wherever you are, which is very soon, so make sure to get those applications in. That’s 2020, in case you’re listening from the future.

Lauren: We’re actually giving out four. We are giving out more than we originally planned, thanks to Claire Bowern funding a fourth LingComm grant on a project that looks at minoritised languages.

Gretchen: Those grant applications are due on June 1st, 2020. If you’re interested in applying for that, go to the website lingcomm.org. That’s “comm” with two Ms. You’ll see all the details there.

Lauren: If you’re listening to this deep in the future, you can go to lingcomm.org to see what great projects we funded.

Gretchen: Indeed you can.

Lauren: We now have new Lingthusiasm merch. We have little badges for you to wear through Redbubble, which is really exciting. They’re super cute.

Gretchen: Interesting! I think I would call those “pins” or maybe “buttons.” Whatever you call them, they are round circular things that you can pin on your clothes or backpacks that say fun linguistics things on them.

Lauren: Hm. I’d call them “button badges” as well.

Gretchen: I think “buttons” is kind of ambiguous because you don’t know if that’s a kind of button you use that you sew into your clothing or that you pin into your clothing. Maybe I like “pins”? Anyway, you can get these at lingthusiasm.com/merch along with more sticker designs and other Lingthusiasm merch like scarves with the International Phonetic Alphabet on them and other fun things like that.

Lauren: This month’s Patreon bonus episode is about numbers. We look at different counting systems, different number systems, and what using your fingers to count says about you. You can get access to this and 38 other bonus episodes at patreon.com/lingthusiasm.

[Music]

Gretchen: Okay. I have a puzzle for us.

Lauren: Awesome. I love a puzzle.

Gretchen: I’m gonna give you a few words, then you can tell me what they have in common. Our words are “about.”

Lauren: “About.”

Gretchen: “Broken.”

Lauren: “Broken.”

Gretchen: And “council.”

Lauren: “Council.”

Gretchen: Any thoughts for what they have in common?

Lauren: My immediate thought was I’m sad we don’t have Lingthusiasm think time music.

Gretchen: We do have theme music. Maybe we could play it a bit again.

Lauren: Hm. Ah. “About, broken, council” – they all start with different letters. They all have different letters in them. I’m assuming it’s not something about what they mean. They’re all two syllables long.

Gretchen: That’s true. I should give you a couple more examples that also have this thing in common to see if that helps.

Lauren: Okay.

Gretchen: We have “about, broken, council, potato,” and “support.”

Lauren: Oh, “potato.” The goes my two-syllable theory. Definitely nothing semantic about their meaning. They still all have completely different letters. You’ve actually made it harder with more data, Gretchen. Harder. That’s not useful.

Gretchen: The thing we wanna think about is not just what letters are in them but what sounds are in them.

Lauren: Right.

Gretchen: Is there any sound that all five of these words have in common?

Lauren: If I look at the spelling, they all have completely different vowels. They don’t even have the same vowels. But if I listen to how they’re spoken, think about “about, broken,” and “council,” [Gasp] “potato,” and “support,” they all have schwa.

Gretchen: They all have schwa, which I know is your favourite vowel. I have created this quiz just for you.

Lauren: Excellent. Thank you so much. They all have this /ə/ sound. It’s the coolest little letter that doesn’t exist as a written letter in English. It’s one of the coolest sounds in English. I love it. We’re doing a whole episode. It’s schwa time.

Gretchen: It’s schwa time. So, /əbɑʊt/ has that /ə/ in the first syllable. /bɹoʊkən/ has that /ə/ in the second syllable. /kɑʊnsəl/ has that /ə/ there – /pətɛɪtoʊ/ /səpoɹt/. There’s the /ə/ going all the way through. Here’s your second quiz. There’s a special thing about this particular set of five words. They all have schwa in them, but they all have something else that’s different about them.

Lauren: They’re all spelt with the actual different vowels. When I learnt that schwa was the sound that hid across all of the vowels – it doesn’t matter what one you write, if it’s in an unstressed syllable, and we’ll talk about that, it becomes a schwa – it explained to me why I find writing some words so difficult. If you don’t know how to spell “potato” and someone says /pətɛɪtoʊ/, that could be a P-A, that could be a P-U. It’s really hard to tell. But all of those are written with different vowels but sound the same in speech.

Gretchen: Yeah! You get words like /dɛfənɪtli/, which was one of these words that I didn’t know how to spell for the longest time. It would give me this red underline and I was like, “Why? This looks totally reasonable to me!” Then, I had to learn that the schwa – /dɛfənɪtli/ – the schwa there wasn’t spelled with an A, it was spelled with an I. You really can’t tell in English because every single vowel letter can represent this particular vowel sound, which is really frustrating when you’re a kid learning how to spell and yet is really cool when you’re a linguist because it’s one of these mysterious things that once you notice it, it’s everywhere. Yet, you can go your whole life without noticing it.

Lauren: We talked about all the vowels back in Episode 17 with vowel gymnastics and how, unlike consonants, vowels exist in this space and they all shift around like a multi-dimensional slide trombone. I guess that’s why we went with “gymnastics” as an analogy instead of “multi-dimensional trombones.”

Gretchen: I mean, if someone wants to design a multi-dimensional trombone for me, I’ll take it.

Lauren: We talked a teeny bit about schwa in that episode, but I have been wanting to do an episode all about schwa for ages. Here we are. Exciting times.

Gretchen: I think we should also mention what schwa looks like when it’s written in the International Phonetic Alphabet because it is part of your icon or your whole icon on various different websites, is it not?

Lauren: Yes. If you’ve ever seen the upside-down E looking thing that is the Superlinguo logo, that is the sch – so schwa is interesting in that it has a name. It also has, like all of the vowels, a representation in the International Phonetic Alphabet. That representation looks like an upside-down E. I’m not normally one of these people that has lots of opinions about fonts, but when it comes to how it’s written, it is not an upside-down E. This is something I’m very fussy about.

Gretchen: What is the difference between a schwa and an upside-down lowercase E? Please tell the class because I don’t know.

Lauren: If you turn it back up the other way, it looks really unproportioned. It’s like the top of the E is just way too high up. It looks all weirdly stretched.

Gretchen: So, the thicknesses of the letters and so on are weirdly stretched? Is that the thing?

Lauren: Yeah. The height of that little loopy bit of the E, if you turn it back the other way and try and use it as an E, looks a bit – it just makes it look like the E is gonna fall over. It’s really wobbly.

Gretchen: Okay. I feel like we need to point this out that you know this because you made schwa cookie cutters.

Lauren: Yes. I designed and 3-D printed a schwa cookie cutter a few years ago for Christmas gingerbread.

Gretchen: Then, a very helpful person on the internet said, “Couldn’t you just have used an E cookie cutter and turned the cookies upside-down?” and you were like, “No, no, no, because the thickness is different.”

Lauren: No. You absolutely cannot.

Gretchen: I feel like, historically speaking, it probably was an upside-down E though because I know a lot of the IPA symbols are upside-down versions or rotated versions of existing letters because that way they didn’t have to typeset new letters back in the metal printing days. But I believe you that, now that we have digital formats, schwa can have slightly different line thicknesses.

Lauren: Yes. It has its own representation. It has a name that not many other vowels have names. Technically, it’s a mid-central vowel, which just means it’s just in the centre. It’s not high. It’s not low. It’s not front. It’s not back. It’s not any of these dimensions that we talk about. It’s just the most /ə/ vowel that exists, which is why everything ends up going towards it when it’s not stressed because it’s the least exciting thing to do with your mouth. There’s actually a Wikipedia entry for the mid-central vowel – that /ə/ vowel – but schwa is so iconic there’s also a separate Wikipedia page just to talk about it as “schwa.” This is how strong its brand is.

Gretchen: Schwa’s brand is strong. Especially for the vowels, normally if we talk about vowels, we talk about /i/ or /ɛ/ or /ʊ/. You just say the name of the vowel – or sometimes people say the name of the symbol. Like, “small cap I” or –

Lauren: “Open O.”

Gretchen: “Open O” or something like this. Schwa has got this name that doesn’t refer to the shape of its symbol, it’s got its own name. The thing that’s always tormented me about the name “schwa” is, like, it’s a cool name. I will grant you this. But it doesn’t have schwa itself in the name.

Lauren: This is true and very disappointing.

Gretchen: Other symbols, like “theta” – /θɛɪtʌ/ has a theta in it. Great. We’re doing a great job. Good job, theta. Schwa does not have a schwa in it, and I find that kind of disappointing.

Lauren: Disappointing.

Gretchen: However, I looked up the history of the name “schwa.” Apparently, “schwa” used to have a schwa in it and then it stopped, which I now think is even better. The word “schwa” is from the Hebrew /ʃva/ for which the classical pronunciation was apparently /ʃəwa/.

Lauren: Ah, so before modern Hebrew, it had a schwa in it. It was like /ʃəwa/?

Gretchen: Exactly. /ʃwa/, /ʃəwa/ – maybe we should start calling it /ʃəwa/ because then it would have a /ʃəwa/ in it.

Lauren: Amazing. I think one of the things I like about the name of schwa is that the name itself encapsulates its history.

Gretchen: Yeah. Initially /ʃva/ or /ʃəwa/ is the name of one of the sets of dots that indicates this sound – because Hebrew writing, along with Arabic, are normally written with just the consonants. Then, if you want to indicate what the vowels are, you can add these extra little dots and bits above and below the consonants which, most of the time, aren’t used but are sometimes used for children or for contexts where you wanna be super precise. One of the names of these sets of dots indicating the vowels is /ʃəwa/, which was used to indicate either the /ə/ sound, the schwa sound itself, or /ɛɪ/, which in most languages the /ɛɪ/ sound is written with what English calls a letter E. If you think of the /ɛː/ as in /kæfɛɪ/ or /foɹtɛɪ/, those Es are that /ɛɪ/ sound. This kind of explains to me why it’s an upside-down E and not an upside-down literally any other vowel because every vowel letter can become a schwa sound because in this origin it could be used for either one of these two sounds.

Lauren: Nifty. Even though it’s pronounced /ʃva/ in modern Hebrew, the spelling of “schwa” itself is actually from the German spelling for it. I think this was one of the reasons I like the name “schwa” is that it encapsulates its history being borrowed from Hebrew orthography. Then, in the 19th Century, a lot of German linguists used it for that sound. That S-C-H spelling is the German spelling rather than any other language. Most satisfyingly, it was first used by a guy called Schmeller who has his name spelt S-C-H as well.

Gretchen: Johann Andreas Schmeller, who also used the schwa. Maybe that’s why he liked it.

Lauren: It became big in the 19th Century and definitely by the end of the 19th Century/Early 20th Century it was being used in texts to represent that sound.

Gretchen: Schwa is also very common in German. A lot of words that end in E in German have that E pronounced as a schwa. The name what in English would be Gabe – the German name /gaːbə/ – that /ə/ at the end is also a schwa.

Lauren: It definitely pops up in a lot of languages because it’s quite efficient.

Gretchen: You also get this optional schwa sound with Es at the end of the word in French. You can have /lɔ̃ːg/ but also /lɔ̃ːgə/, which is the word for “long.” There’s an E there that can be optionally pronounced. When it is pronounced, it’s pronounced kind of like schwa. This gets to something interesting because German and French have these schwas that are spelled with the letter E at the end of a lot of their words. English, instead, has these completely silent Es at the end of a lot of its words.

Lauren: The bane of all children learning to read in English – the silent E.

Gretchen: Oooh, “bane.” There’s an example! Words like “bane” and “fame” and “fine” and “bone” and “meme” – that one is not one that I learned when I was in Grade 4 spelling class. There’re all these words that end in silent E in English. The rule that I learned when I was in Grade 5 spelling class was the silent E makes the vowel say its own name.

Lauren: Oh, I like that. I never learnt that. That’s very handy, trying to get your head around the rules of reading English.

Gretchen: Yeah. It’s really nice.

Lauren: I’m really jealous that I never learnt that very efficient way of thinking about what E was doing.

Gretchen: But it’s a rule that’s kind of unsatisfying to me as a linguist now because why should adding an extra vowel to the end of the word change how the vowel in the middle of the word is being pronounced? That’s something that I found unsatisfying as a budding linguist. What sort of process is that?

Lauren: I am going – I mean, I know the answer. But if I had not known the answer, I would’ve taken a wild guess at it being retrospectively attempting to make sense of a historical process by pretending that there’s some kind of reason for it.

Gretchen: I mean, that’s not not what’s going on.

Lauren: The reason why they had to retrospectively come up with this rule is because the E used to be pronounced. It used to be pronounced as our friend schwa. They weren’t just one syllable words. The were two syllable words. It was /banə/ – “bane” – and /famə/ and /hamə/.

Gretchen: Oh, so the schwa actually used to be pronounced there. You’d get, instead of “fine,” like /fɪnə/. Instead of “fame,” /famə/. Instead of “home,” /hoʊmə/ or something like that.

Lauren: Yes. You had two syllables instead of one syllable that we have now for “fine,” “fame,” “home.” Those syllables started with a consonant, ended with a vowel. Then, over time, that schwa comes off at the end. It’s not as easy to always pronounce it – a bit like with the French example. In French at the moment, you can pronounce it, or you don’t have to. It’s starting to erode away at the end of a word. That was the process that happened in English.

Gretchen: Right. This is really interesting because in English and in other Germanic languages as well there’s a difference between the kinds of vowels that you can have in a syllable where there’s a consonant at the end and in a syllable where there isn’t. We have English words “hid” and “hide,” which have /ɪ/ and /ɑɪ/ in them both between H and D. But there’s a word like “hi,” but there isn’t a word in English /hɪ/ or /fɪ/ or /kɪ/ or /mɪ/ even though all of these can be perfectly good as long as there’s another consonant in them.

Lauren: This is where the rules of English syllables interact with the rules of what sounds can go into them. We used to have two syllables in words like “fine” and “fame,” and now we have one. That little E sits there to remind us as a written fossil even though we don’t pronounce it anymore.

Gretchen: It reminds us that the vowel that’s in this first syllable, which is now the only syllable, is the kind that can exist without a consonant after it. Because we can have a word like /hɑɪ/ and not a word like /hɪ/, if there’s that E at the end – you have /hɑɪd/ or something – then that reminds us – and by “us” I mean people who know this history, which is not most modern contemporary English speakers – that this is the kind of word that has the vowel that can exist in open syllables.

Lauren: For the rest of us, it’s just a handy way to spell properly.

Gretchen: There was a special reason why it was schwa that was so easily lost at the end of all of these words like “fine” and “home” and “hide.” That’s because schwa is what’s known as a “reduced vowel.” It’s physically produced for a shorter amount of time than a full vowel like /ɑɪ/ or /i/ or even /ɪ/.

Lauren: It’s what allows us to just sneak it in really quickly in syllables that we’re not really focusing on.

Gretchen: If we produce some syllables faster or quieter than other ones, those faster or quieter symbols tend to also have schwas.

Lauren: This is why schwa crops up in all of these words regardless of what vowel they’re spelt with. I’m pretty sure Lauren who really struggled to spell words because she couldn’t distinguish the vowel because it was being pronounced with schwa when she was learning to spell would’ve said, “Why don’t we just spell all the words with schwa and be done with it?” That wouldn’t be the most practical solution.

Gretchen: The problem is, if we respell English to be consistent and every time we say schwa we write schwa, it works in the short term because we have this transparent relationship between the sound and spelling, which is nice. But the annoying thing – this fact that you can write any English vowel letter for the sound schwa – is also a fact about the structure of English. There are all these words that are related to each other where we can see that relationship more clearly based on the spelling than we can sometimes with the pronunciation. The spelling can help us notice when words are related to each other. If we take up a word pair like “acid” and “acidity” –

Lauren: “Acid” and “acidity.” Well, that -ity bit on the end of “acid” that turns it into “acidity” also changes the vowel to a schwa.

Gretchen: Yeah. /æsɪd/ and /əsɪdəti/ – in the first one we have /æ/ as the first vowel and in the second one we have /ə/. Yet, it still seems pretty intuitive that these words are related to each other. It’s just that when we do have this -ity on the end, we pronounce the main word – instead of /æsɪd/, we say /əsɪd/.

Lauren: It would be inconvenient in the even medium turn to lose the relationship between, say, “courage” and “courageous” just because we have that -ous on the end of “courageous.”

Gretchen: It’s the same thing there. /kʌɹəd͡ʒ/ – the second syllable -age, there’s a schwa. But /kʌɹɛɪd͡ʒəs/ – now there’s a different vowel there. It’s just because we’ve added the -ous on the end. Yet, it’s nice that these two words that are very clearly related to each other still look the same.

Lauren: I guess it’s particularly true as well of those word pairs in English that only differ because of stress. Like /ˈɹɛˌkəɹd/ and /ˌɹəˈkoɹd/ – only different because of stress. Then, we’d be spelling them differently because each one has a schwa in the opposite place.

Gretchen: /ˈɹɛˌkəɹd/ – the schwa is in the /-əɹd/. /ˌɹəˈkoɹd/ – your schwa is in the /ɹə-/. You’d have to /ʃwap/ the – swap the [stutters] /ʃwaz/ – /ʃwap/ the /ʃwʌz/? Wow. That’s really hard to say. Swap the schwas. You wouldn’t know what vowel to recover from the syllable once you started stressing it. It’s the same thing with -ity and -ous. When you make “acid” into “acidity” and “courage” into “courageous,” instead of stressing the /æ/ and the /kəɹ/, you’re stressing the /ɪd/ and the /æd͡ʒ/, if you will.

Lauren: Adding the extra bit to the word shifts where the stress is.

Gretchen: It’s these unstressed syllables where schwa – not every unstressed syllable in English is a schwa, but a heck of a lot of them are.

Lauren: I think we’ll keep the spelling system as it is.

Gretchen: This was something that always used to come up for me back when I used to teach Intro to Linguistics. People would be trying to write things in the International Phonetic Alphabet for the very first time, so they’d go through each word, and they’d say it really slowly and carefully. What that would mean is that instead of saying /əsɪdəti/, they’d say something like /æsɪdɪti/. Okay. Or, instead of saying /kʌɹəd͡ʒ/, /kʌɹɛɪd͡ʒəs/, they’d have /kʌɹɛɪd͡ʒʌs/, /kʌɹɹɛd͡ʒ/.

Lauren: They’ve gone back to stressing every syllable, so the schwas evaporate.

Gretchen: Right! They’d write these words and they’d have no schwas in them all over the place. You’d have to say, “You can say this word like this -- if you’re really saying it slowly and carefully, and you were saying each syllable at once maybe to help someone spell it, you do have the full vowel there some level,” psychologically, for a lot of people, especially because of the spelling that’s influencing you to tell you it’s there. But in normal speech at a regular pace, most of the time you do say schwas a lot. It’s an interesting tension where many of our schwas actually represent a sound that we could recover if you say the word slowly and carefully enough, which is also a reason to keep the spelling where it is because there is some psychological reality to the non-schwa version as well.

Lauren: This discussion is very English-focused, I should say, because it’s something that English seems to do in particular in terms of having this kind of stress and this reducing to schwa on unstressed syllables. In fact, it’s a fairly prominent feature of the English accent. I imagine it’s something that gets transferred when English speakers are learning to speak other languages. It’s probably the closest I’ve come to having the ability to understand what the English accent in other languages must sound like to native speakers of those languages. They must just think that we’re failing to hear vowels all over the place.

Gretchen: “Why do all of your vowels become the same vowel?” I think the inverse is also the case is that it’s one of the trickiest things for people who are learning English from a language that doesn’t do this, which is most of them, to do is be constantly trying to hit this vowel that I don’t even have. “Don’t you want your vowels to all be very distinct from each other?” Schwa or not schwa is this very English thing. The stress part about it being very important which syllable’s stressed and which part of which word is stressed – that’s also a very English thing. I find the most interesting place to notice how important stress is in English is when it comes to poetry.

Lauren: Sure. Because a lot of poetry relies on having certain numbers of syllables. Using stress is one way to explore the rhythm of a poem or a poetic construction.

Gretchen: Right. Some of the oldest English Mother Goose rhymes, nursery rhymes, have a consistent number of stressed bits per line rather than a consistent number of syllables. If you have something like “Hickory dickory dock, the mouse ran up the clock.” There’s three stress bits per line, but the number of syllables is quite different. The same thing with limericks in English, it’s not that there’s the same number of syllables in each line, it’s that the stress pattern is you have to have three stressed syllables, three stressed syllables, two stress, two stress, three stress. You can do that with a varying number of actual syllables in it. Something like, “There once was a man from Nantucket,” three stresses – “once,” “man,” “tuck.” Nine syllables. But “A tutor who tooted the flute,” also three stress – “tu,” “too,” “flute.” That’s eight syllables. And “A wonderful bird is the pelican,” ten syllables but still three stresses.

Lauren: It’s funny. My brain is so tuned to listening to the stress in these, I actually found it hard to count the syllables as you were going because I was so tuned into the limerick structure of stress.

Gretchen: A lot of very English-y poetry styles, as long as you get the stress right, you can really mess with the syllables because English pays a lot of attention to the stress. Whereas, in French, they don’t have this individual, unpredictable stress at the word level the way English does at all. There’s no /ˈɹɛˌkəɹd/ versus /ˌɹəˈkoɹd/ in French. Everything just gets a bit of stress at the end of the phrase or sentence or utterance or whatever you’re saying. You might say something like “Bonjour,” but you could also say, “Bonjour, comment ça va?” and you just stress the “jour” or the “va.” You don’t have to go anywhere in between and stress anything else. This means that French poetry can’t do this stress counting thing because there’s no stresses for them to count.

Lauren: Ah. Normally, I spend a lot of time going, “Oh, poor English speakers. They’re missing out.” But poor French speakers! They’re missing out on limericks.

Gretchen: I really don’t know how you do a limerick in French. I think you’d have to pick a number of syllables that is approximately equivalent and just do that.

Lauren: We talked about this schwa-syllable relationship being very English-focused for this episode, but it’s not the only language in which schwa appears and is a little bit easy to drop once you have reduced the pronunciation of schwa. French was one example you had. In Indo-Aryan languages as well – these are the languages of the same Into-European family as English but they’re over on the Indian subcontinent, so Hindi. I know about this because I had to learn Nepali. They have schwa as a vowel. A bit like the Hebrew writing system, for this vowel in particular, they just don’t write it down. You have to know when to pronounce this vowel by memorising. For some languages in the family it’s just gone altogether. It’s another example of how schwa in some languages can be really eroded. But not in all languages.

Gretchen: This is actually true in Miꞌkmaq as well, which is an Algonquian language spoken in Eastern Canada. In their writing system they use the apostrophe to represent the schwa sound, but the apostrophe is only added when the schwa is quote-unquote “unpredictable.” If you can predict the schwa, then you just put in the schwa where you know it’s supposed to go because as a speaker you say it. Of course, I am not very good – I don’t speak Miꞌkmaq so I’m not particularly good at predicting where it goes.

Lauren: Unpredictable schwa is almost cooler than unstressed schwa.

Gretchen: You can kind of predict it. Speakers actually know how to do it properly, but it’s not always represented in the writing system which is, I guess, something it has in common with Nepali.

Lauren: Schwa has so many cheeky personalities.

Gretchen: Schwa also shows up in English – speaking of being cheeky – as the vowel sound that people end up producing, if you’re an English speaker, when you’re trying not to make any vowel sound at all. If you’re trying to say the sound that the letter B makes, but you don’t wanna say B, you just wanna say that sound by itself, you probably end up with /bə/, which is still a vowel, it’s just schwa. Because that’s the least vowel you can make.

Lauren: Just adding a little bit so you can get that /bə/ across.

Gretchen: Yeah. It also shows up sometimes in people’s names. I knew somebody called /ksɛnjə/ and a lot of English speakers couldn’t pronounce that /ksə/, the KS, at the beginning of her name, so a lot of people ended up saying /kəsɛnjə/ by inserting a little schwa between because that was how they were able to keep both the K and the S.

Lauren: Very handy. Although, I like unpredictable schwa in Miꞌkmaq, one of the best things about schwa popping up in the particular context of unstressed syllables in English means that schwa is set up for being just a really great source of jokes because, when it comes to English, schwa is never stressed. I think that’s a life motto we can all get behind.

Gretchen: This means that there are people who’ve made t-shirts saying, “I want to be a schwa, it’s never stressed.”

Lauren: There’s a great photo from Sandy Abuadas who has made cookies for her students with schwa on them so that her students’ finals will be stressless.

Gretchen: I love it! It’s so good.

Lauren: It was very cute.

Gretchen: I think the stress part – in the technical sense, there’s this very tempting pun with the stress part in the vernacular sense.

Lauren: I think because it’s a sound that is everywhere and ubiquitous but, until you study linguistics, you don’t know that it is all around you. Not only is it around you, but it has its own symbol and it has its own name. I think that’s why it’s a classic linguist iconography to have fun with.

Gretchen: I hope that learning about schwa has not been stressful!

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jjadestar · 4 years

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hey! i know i haven’t posted on here in a bit! due to the pandemic i’m currently unemployed and struggling to make rent.

but i really wanna start working on my character art skills some more so i’m gonna start working on designs again!(i’ll post all my others i had queued up because i hate them now lol) still gotta figure out the order tho

and i’m also open for commissions!! i’ll make a post soon but yeah! please consider dm’ing me if you’re interested because again i am. struggling to pay bills rn. i’m accepting payment through paypal AND cashapp($VegaParks)!

oh and i have a redbubble too. just 1 design rn but hopefully there’ll be more to come soon!@vegaparks

thank you so much, and expect art soon!!

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suushidragon · 4 years

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I've just realized I forgot to give Peril the blushie Blushes uhgghgh. But I remembered right before I finished this picture 'OH WAIT I HAVE TO ADD THE HEARTS AND BLUSHES AND YEAH' But anyway. Here is Glory, I know this is the 3rd time I think I've changed her headcannon design. I just saw some people color her as dark purple, blue and pink and I was like 'aw shit that's pretty cool' so yeah. If you do not like my headcannons or designs that is completely fine! Just don't harass me please and also if you do not like the LGBTQ+ or Pride month please don't follow me. <3 --- Glory's Design: - She is a gradient from dark purple to dark teal. - She's so dark because she was not given the correct sunlight as a dragonet. Although when she does go back into the rainforest she does become brighter, but next to most Rainwings Glory is quite dark. - Many of her scales that should have color don't. Most Rainwings have many patterns and such on their body but Glory doesn't have any markings on her because in her beginning years the markings on Rainwings slowly beginning to appear when they are 3 and given the sunlight they needed. - The only bright colors she has is on her frills and wing membrane. Rainwings do not need sun to have a bright colorful frill as they use it as a self defense mechanism. Also the wing membrane has the same genetic makeup as the frills. - Glory doesn't get with Deathbringer. When they first meet, Deathbringer actually doesn't start flirting crazy and being weird. And Glory defiantly doesn't want to be with a dragon that tried to kill her. But after a bit she decides to make him her personal guard. And years and years go by and they become close friends. Although after a couple of drinks (do they have alcohol in this universe??? they have to) Deathbringer will go on rambling on how beautiful Glory is and that he's surprised that she hasn't gotten a mate. Although Glory is flattered by this no dragon really stood out to her. - But after meeting Peril after years of her learning to love herself, they hit it off. They become friends, then close friends, then go on a date and now their together. - Glory is transgender! MtF! Yeahhh have a book about my headcannons with Glory. She's probably my fave dragonet of destiny but she might be tied with Tsunami. But idk. Anyway yeah she doesn't get with Deathbringer, although after years of connecting and learning about each other they become like bros or besties. So yeah I did this bc I personally don't mind Deathbringer but he's not the best in the books. Especially the whole Glorybringer arguments and stuff. So yeah their besties and they gossip while they groom slots and paint their nails. AND ALSO! I have the idea of bringing back my next gen! And I will be using my ships and headcannons in the universe! Although I need a name for it and hghkljs yeah. Gonna be a bit hard lol. So yeah Im kinda hyped and yeah --- *Please do not talk to me about drama in the fandoms I make art in. I can't handle with drama to well.*

My DA: https://www.deviantart.com/meat-monster My Toyhouse: toyhou.se/Meat-Monster My Tumblr: Your Here My Amino: aminoapps.com/u/IamMeat-Monste… My Redbubble: www.redbubble.com/people/Meat-…

#wings of fire #pride #rainwings #glory #mtf #transgender

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franeridart · 5 years

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what program/brushes do you use for your art? it's so damn pretty

Easy Paint tool SAI and the default pen/brush/marker tools, mostly! and thank you!!! ;^;

Anon said:When I was a kid I would've had a crush on Akane

HECK that’s such a compliment!! Thank you!!!

Anon said:Couldn't Akane technically Control/move Kiri's hair since it's dyed? I mean it's like his hair is stained meaning it's not alive! so Akane finally warms up to him and messes with him or plays with his hair?

She can and she did! I drew her doing just that both in the first and in the fourth thing I posted about her! :D

Anon said:okay i don't know if this is coming through but i have just looked through your entire blog(can only go 4 years back) and let me just say you are wonderful, I absoluty LOVE how you paint/draw like its sooo pretty??? like dnjwcfehbi i cant describe it, (part 1) || like you are wonderful, I absolutely LOVE how you paint/draw like it's so pretty??? like dnjwcfehbi I can't describe it like it's absolutely Fabulous, Stunning, Amazing, Lovely and it looks so smoooooth like what????how??But anyways love your art and love you keep being Amazing! (part 2)

AH GOD THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!! This is such a sweet ask to get TT^TT (and you can only go 4 years back because the blog is 4 years old! Can’t believe you actually went through it all!!)

Anon said:I really love your art style and your comics are so cute and I love how you draw older Bakugou and Kirishima!! It’s all so wonderful! Thank you for sharing it with everyone!

Oh man thank you!! ;;; I’m so happy yo know you like them!!!!!! TTOTT

Anon said:the level of FLUFF and KOOKIENESS and SOFT and MARSHMALLOW and MY HEART CAN'T TOOK THIS IS is so much I could die.

PLEASE DON’T DIE I LOVE YOU !!!!!

Anon said:I love everything about Akane's au. Her, her interactions with Bakugou, how she dislikes Kirishima but is beginning to warm up to him, the boys' aged-up designs. Everything. It's all amazing. Thank you for bringing it into my life!

Nggghhhhhhhh no anon thank you for liking her!!!!

Anon said:Currently procrastinating on my essay to go through your blog because it de-stresses me and I love your art so much like seriously h e l p

GAH THANK YOU SO MUCH!!! /////

Anon said:There's something I'm not understand in your AU children kiribaku. She adopted by bakugo or she is a kid bakugou have with someone. ( I'm really really sorry for my English )

Adopted!

Anon said:Your comics are so cute and funny! I'm loving the story with Akane, the last update was great! I really like the way you draw the characters, like your style is so nice. Thanks for making my day better with your art!

G o d thank you So Much!!!!!!

Anon said:Akane is adorable, and I absolutely love the comics that you upload of her, but also on top of that your mohawk Bakugo has cleared my skin, watered my crops, and brought me back from the dead at LEAST twice.

I’M REAL GLAD TO HEAR THAT because mohawk Bakugou owns my whole soul and it’s nice to know I’m not alone in that hahaha

Anon said:What are some ways Akane messes with Kiri (or used to) when he wears red clothes? Does she often do that? Does she do it when Baku's not home, or when he is so that she can hammer in just how much she dislikes Kiri? Has she ever done anything major that caused her to be really reprimanded by Baku, but being the best person in the world Kiri did not get angry?

She really only ever gets pissy (or used to! they’re starting to get along better !!!) at Kiri when she feels jealous for whatever reason, and that doesn’t happen as often as it seems through my doodles, so it’s not like she’s always antagonistic towards him! Mostly she just ignores him, so no, it doesn’t happen often at all! And she’s never gone further than messing his hair up or tugging a bit at his clothes, since she doesn’t have the strength to move Kiri all that much haha the only reason she managed to have him fall the first time was because he was balancing already, but generally Kiri weighs way too much for her to move him around or pull at the red stuff he’s wearing enough for him to notice it all that much

anyway, Baku never reprimended her for it - not more than he did in the first comic I posted with them, at least, specifically because the damage she can make is so minor that Kiri and Baku barely consider it something to tell her off for... if she were ever to act that way towards someone she might actually hurt (say, a kid her own age) then Baku might reprimend her more seriously, but as long as she’s just tugging at Kiri’s clothes they don’t see it as anything worth fighting her over :D

Anon said:Just sent an ask, so forgive me for this one, but I'd love to get this straight: in the Akane AU Kiri and Baku graduated and share an apartment, are madly into each other, but they neither has made a move on the other yet? Perhaps that should be sad, but it's 100% adorable.

I know I shouldn’t say this as I made the au myself, but I find the arrangement pretty dang adorable too haha they act like a married couple anyway, so it’s like... pining while the rest of the world already considers them an item? and the pining is mostly about stuff like ahhhh I wanna tell him I love him or ahhhhhh god I wanna kiss him, but then they’ll fall asleep on the couch together or hold hands just for the hell of it or cook for each other or make plans that always involve each other and all in all act as each other’s partner, so it’s mostly just like *Kaminari voice* “God these oblivious idiots” hahaha

Anon said:That latest Akane comic melted my heart like you often do. Though for a moment, I expected Eijirou to say "I don't want Katsuki to be my dad, I want him to be my daddy" XD Though that would not sound like him. Props for his adorable interactions with Scarlet Death Queen Witch.

Anon you don’t get it that’s exactly why I had him say “be his son” instead of “be my dad” LMAO it was like, a conscious wording decision hahaha thank you so much for liking my girl, btw!!!

Anon said:Fran! I was just wondering if you would be willing to post your Demon Kiri and Angel Baku art on Redbubble? I'd love to buy a print of it!! Totally understand if not. Also your newer Akane comics are killing me, they're so damn cute!! So yeah love you and your beautiful art! Hope you have an awesome year!!

I CAN TRY I think I did try last time I updated my rb? But the format of the pic made it hard to use it for a lot of things so I gave up??? I can try again tho!!! Thank you for being interested in buying it!!! And thank you for liking Akane too!!!!!

Anon said:is katsuki and kirishima not together in the adopted child comics or is there gonna be a plot to them getting together? 👀

I’m not really writing anything cohesive for it so I wouldn’t call it a plot point, but yeh they still aren’t together! And I wanna have them get to the point in which they are together!!! :D

Anon said:I'm gonna die why do you do this with your adorable art my god

PLEASE!!!!! DON’T DIE!!!!!!!!!!!

Anon said:Your Akane + KiriBaku comics are adorable and I love the relationships that exist between them. I can't wait to see more of them!

Thank you so much!!!!!!!!!!! I hope I won’t disappoint!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anon said:I love your art so much!! Especially the little Akane au (so freaking cute!!!!). Random question: if you’ve ever seen Lucifer, who do you think would fit his character? Have an awesome day!

I haven’t seen it, sorry :((( but thank you for liking my girl!!!!!!

Anon said:I apologize if this has already been thought of but i feel as though when akane gets older and if she decides to be a hero, part of her costume could include useful red objects mayhaps?? Such as a shield or daggers or handcuffs so if there’s a lack of red around her she isn’t in a complete ditch. But i love your work sm ahhh💕💕

Yes!!! That’s the plan!!!!! I don’t think I’ll ever draw a teen version of her character but I MIGHT mention this idea in the current timeline, I like the idea so much TT^TT

Anon said:Hey there, I am absolutely obsessed with Akane like I love her so much wow but anyways I was wondering if you've ever drawn tododeku/ will in the future?

Thank you!!!! And I have drawn them in the past (under my tododeku tag!) and I might draw them again in the future, though currently I’m in a pretty big izu//ocha mood so I dunno when that will happen!

Anon said:I love your art so much like??? Help???

THANK YOU TTATT

Anon said:Y'know it could be gayer c'mon

This ask has been in my inbox for 17 days and I still don’t know what it means ??? but I laughed a lot when I got it so thank you anon and yes, definitely, everything could always be gayer that’s just how the world goes

Anon said:I swear you drew an older version of the krbk kids and it wasn't a fever dream I'm currently frantically searching through your blog rn help

I DID that post is CURSED anon, you can look it up through any of the tags I used to tag it and it won’t show up it won’t and I don’t know why!! I always lose it exactly because of this reason I have zero idea why it does this but??? okay I guess???????????

anyway if you still want it it’s here

Anon said:If Akane can control red things, does she low-key also have control over things that are pink and orange depending on how reddish in hue they are? I love her btw. Such a smol bean who could probably kick my ass!

What a good question you got there!! She has control over everything that has a color that falls in the red wavelength of the visible spectrum - that does include certain tones of pink and certain tones of orange, but there’s a point where orange gets too yellow or pink gets too white that her powers stop working. As long as the red in the color is more than any other hue, though, her powers work!

Anon said: im just imagining if baku takes akane with him when he is going to work and is there with kiri and akane help kiri with his hair bc she is suffering when he tries to style it himself

Once they start getting along better Akane and Kiri actually start helping each other with their hair! They’re both very particular about it so they understand each other as far as that topic goes haha

Anon said:Hi I just wanted to say I’m really enjoying what you are doing in your latest drawing. The contrast with the thick sketchy lines and the thinner crisp ones and the spaces that have no defined line! It’s cool to see you experiment with your line work while staying true to your natural style! Sorry if this came off weird but I love seeing talented artists try pushing the boundaries of their style it’s really visually/conceptually interesting! :)

AH MAN thank you so much I’m so happy to know you like that tool TT^TT it’s really super comfy to use, so it’s nice to know someone finds it visually appealing too!!! thank you!!!!!

Anon said:Is there any chance you could make a masterpost of the aus you do? It's a lot to scroll down to the beginning of a concept u have sometimes and it can be unclear when they start

They all have a tag they’re under, tho? If I’ve made more than one post about them! I have so many AUs going around that making a masterpost with all of them is a bit... mostly so since I don’t know for how many I’ll actually go back on! But if the tags don’t really work for you (generally the link is gonna look like https://franeridart.tumblr.com/tagged/[here goes the tag]/chrono to have it in chronological order) then I can try? I can’t promise I’ll find a comfortable way to do this, tho orz sorry!

Anon said:This might be an odd ask but does Akane like Jirou? I feel like they would get along really well. And how about her grandma Mitsuki? Since she takes after Katsu who takes after her, they could make an adorably angry trio

She hasn’t spent much time with Jirou yet so right now she’s mostly meh about her (though right now she only actually likes Bakugou, and she’s warming up to Kiri, but that’s about it). She doesn’t mind Mitsuki, but she hasn’t spent too long with her either! She yells a bit too much at her dad tho, which Akane isn’t particularly fond of (protective bean that she is, she doesn’t get that that’s just their way of communicating just yet), so out of her grandparents she prefers Masaru, after all~

#fran answers #a bunch of asks i had forgotten about after closing the inbox!!!#jesus im a disaster #i was sure i had a couple asks more in here but i can't find them so...???#ah well #either way i'm sorry these took so long my brain is seriously all over the place lately #go d s #anonymous

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disasterbisexual-moved · 5 years

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i'm gonna ask my parents if i can get a couple things from your shop! i'm not sure if they'll say yes but 🤞 also if you don't mind me asking how does redbubble work? i remembered some headers i had made to post here that would make cool stickers and i was wondering if like, redbubble prints and ships stuff for you or do you have ta do that? i've never really used it before so this is all completely new to me! thanks 💗

oh, that’s so sweet of you!! thank you so much!!

yeah, redbubble does the shipping and printing, and the artists get roughly 20-40% of the profits. so if you buy something that costs $1 from redbubble, the person who made the design will most likely get paid $0.20. you can increase the amount you get paid as an artist, buuuut that means the overall price of the stuff you’re selling goes up too.

personally, I think I’ll start out with lower prices and slowly increase them for stuff that sells well, maybe by 10% every couple of months (until the mark-up function maxes out), so hopefully that gives your parents a little more incentive to let you get something you like now.

since you already seem like such a lovely customer, I’ll give you some extra advice: the cheapest thing you could get is probably a sticker, and the clothes (especially stuff like hoodies and heavy tshirts) are on the more expensive end of the spectrum. if you want something inexpensive but useful (and generally long lasting), spiral notebooks, tote bags, and phone cases are the way to go.

I hope all of this helps you in some way!

#asks #redbubble #artists on tumblr #artists on redbubble

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jaderimehardt · 2 years

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I have my sakura designs finished! (I think)

I realized after I had everything colored and ‘finalized’ that my borders are slightly different from my paintings 😅 honestly though... I’m not sure if I like them more on my digital art, or if I prefer the borders on the paintings better. So, that’s a thing I’m being wishy washy with. And I’m facing that back ‘n forth of; well, if I go through the effort to change the borders and recoloring to match the new borders, and then decide I actually liked them the first way- wow, I just wasted all that time 🙃

Decisions, decisions...

Oh yeah, I wanted to throw out a note/statement that not everything I post here is going to be stuff I’m tossing up on RedBubble. I didn’t make this blog for that, I actually wanted to avoid that. And I realize so far the things I’ve been posting has been going in that direction, but it’s just been kind of accidental 😅 I’m not sure if I should keep posting my lil thumbnails, and leave out the links when I post (as I have been doing), or just not post my RB doodles at all. They’re still artsy things so I guess that’s why I’ve been posting them.

I have two more things in my ‘foliage collection’ I want to work on after this one, which yeah... they’ll be going up on RB too. I have some Octopus things I want to work on cause I 💝 🐙 babies. And lol, those are gonna go up too (I’m not helping my case here am I?). AFTER THAT THOUGH...!

I really want to work on some emojis for discord. And after that I want to work on some FFXIV art. In-between all that mess, who knows what I’ll work on. Cause my art flows off motivation and that means ‘on a whim’. (Also based off my free time too, so let’s hope FFXIV doesn’t throw a dozen time-gobbling events at me.)

#jade.blog #jade.wip #jade.art

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curledlife · 6 years

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Get To Know Me!

I was tagged by @k1hyukie !!!! Thank you as always love!!! <3

- The Last

Drink: Coffee (Let’s get that heart rate up boisss)

Phone call: @memeanna123 (she’s gonna be so mad when she keeps seeing these tags xD)

Text message: Momma

Song you listened to: Fxxk It by BigBang

Time you cried: .....It was actually yesterday but it was happy crying!!! I got my Jimin pillow and my Taehyung tapestry :D

- Have You Ever

Dated someone twice: That was a mistake..wow

Kissed someone and regretted it: nah

Been cheated on: yup

Lost someone special: sadly

Been depressed: Back in 2013

Gotten drunk and thrown up: nahhh

- 3 Favorite Color

black

Red

Royal Blue

- In The Last Year Have You

Made new friend: So many, so many!!!

Laughed until you cried: Yesterday actually haha

Found someone was talking about you: yeah

Met someone who changed you: Not exactly, I’m very stubborn sometimes and I mean to change myself my own way

Found out who your friends are: yes

Kissed someone on your Facebook list: that’s gross cause all i have are family...oh hell no

- How many Facebook friends do you know: Many

- Do you have any pets: i have one snow white deaf dog, MY ACTUAL SON named Hoss <3

- Do you want to change your name: No actually, I’m so used to being called J (not my actual namd but if you knew my actual name, it doesn’t change either way)

- What did you do for your last birthday: .....Damn I almost forgot but, I went bowling with my friends :D

- What were you doing at midnight last night: Trying to reply to all my messages on Tumblr and getting back to my tags ;-;

- Name something you can’t wait for: TO WATCH THE HANDS UP MV BY B.A.P

- When was the last time you saw your mom: about an hour ago

- What were you listening to right now: Love me Love me by Winner

- Have you ever talked to a person named Tom: i think so???

- Something that is getting on your nerves: Tumblr cause it acts like it can’t load for shit rn

- Most visited websites: tumblr, youtube, redbubble

- Hair color: black

- Long or short hair: short (I cut it...and my soul left my body honestly)

- Do you have a crush on someone: besides my biases...hell no

- What do you like about yourself: My personality!

- Blood Type: I have no idea

- Nickname: J xD

- Relationship Status: haha..single...this is a funny question, I love it

- Zodiac: Capricorn!

- Pronouns: she/her

- Favorite TV show: Peaky Blinders

- Tattoos: don’t have any yet but, I want a cresent moon on my arm!

- Right or Left Handed: Right, when I write with my left...it’s like a chicken took over my body and started to write about his fears of being turned into a drumstick

- Surgery: Right arm surgery

- Sports: track, martial arts, volleyball, dance (It’s active so I count it as a sport ok)

- Pair of shoes: A bunch of vans, boots

- Eating: nothing at the minute

- Drinking:Coffee

- Waiting: For my BTS albums once again

- Want: Christmas to come around!

- Get married: Maybe, we shall see

- Career: Game designer!

- Which Is Better

Hugs or Kisses: hugs

Lips or Eyes: eyes

Shorter or Taller: please. i’m 5′2 ~ taller (same annie)

Older or Younger: older

Nice Arms or Nice Stomach: it doesn’t really matter to me

Hook Up or Relationship: relationship

Troublemaker or Hesitant: uhm neither? someone in between? idk, a decent person

- Kissed a Stranger: nope

- Drank hard liquor: don’t drink

- Lost glasses/contact lenses: never so far

- Turned someone down: Yuppp

- Sex on the first date: no

- Broken someone’s heart: not that i know of

- Had your heart broken: no

- Being arrested: never...maybe....you never know...UH OH I GOTTA HIDE Jk

- Fallen for a friend: yeah

- Cried when someone died: Yes

- Do You Believe In

Yourself: A little bit

Miracles: Also a little bit (being a buddhist helps on this more xD)

Santa Claus: no

Kiss on the first date: nah

Tags: @zoohope @taeminsguccislippers @localgaylad @nevalium @bel1ev3 @sunshine-chanyeol @salty-minsuga @naamjoodle @wrecking-bias @jvng-shook @dancekinghobi (of course, you don’t have to do it!)

#curledtag #thank you for the tag!!!!!!!#<3

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chasing-rabbits · 4 years

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I dont think the monetizing on your mentally ill page is a bad idea, IF you do it the right way. I think the idea behind spreading the word of mental illness, raising awareness and destigmatizing it is what we need to do. If selling buttons or stickers or shirts or what have you to sell accomplishes this goal then go for it! I would buy a pin that says " __awareness" I would NOT buy a pin that says "SOS my girlfriends bipolar" BUT ur smart and you get it so I doubt you would do that anyway lol

Well considering I have bipolar and bpd and am currently battling stigma from MH professionals yeah I just i see on redbubble the site i use for my vegan designs. Like I looked up bipolar some of it was just horrible like there was these his and hers tops and it was basically correlating bipolar gf w/ crazy etc and i just...idk i find it in v. bad taste especially since i found no evidence to suggest this person has bipolar or any mental illness that is heavily stigmatised. I understand using dark humor to cope but i feel if you are going to sell on the nose dark humor related merch it should be about a disorder you personally have. You know? Also i would not sell even dark humor stuff that uses the word crazy in reference to bipolar. Like when I say dark humor and stuff i mean like i used to follow a blog called self harm shark and some ppl sent it hate saying it glorified it and such but honestly it helped me on tough nights not to cut/not to feel less alone i actually felt less crazy because many user submitted stuff I could relate to and its one of those things where you might think youre alone in feeling this or that and you realise youre not and that is sad sure that someone else experiences it too but it is relieving to know youre not the only one it makes you feel less crazy bcos u realise its not just you so its almost like not normal but its not like youre the only one who experiences it therefore you just idk im not good at explaining it just makes me at least feel less crazy etc. But yeah i mean..idk i just think yeah certain things shouldnt be joked about and i feel like if youre not suffering with said mental illness or dont have a relative or partner or anything with said mental illness you shouldnt really even consider making dark humor or on the nose jokes/humor/memes to sell etc. Cos it comes off as more well..do you actually think that? Are you stigmatising us or thinking these things? Are you trying to make a buck off mental health but you dont care about the mentally ill? You know you just never know someones intentions. I know like for example i woudlnt want to buy vegan merch off someone whose not vegan who doesnt believe in the vegan lifestyle..when I could buy a vegan pin or magnet or coaster set etc from a vegan trying to work hard to make a living its just yeah... I have some designs in mind actually that i have already created for bipolar and mental illness. I actually have one saying my mental illness is not your adjective or something like that. I do have one i created that says ‘bipolar af’ i created it when manic and now ive come out of mania im not entirely sure if its a good idea to sell it or not? I mean im not sure if that is like idk if the as fuck bit makes it sound bad or if it could be misinterpreted and seen as like..the whole using it as an adjective thing like what if people buy it who are like buying it to like use bipolar as an adjective in that terms like you know how people say the weather is so bipolar or quite often bipolar is used to describe someone who just has mood swings or someone who people might define as highly strung or ‘crazy’ idk im not sure if the AF bit makes it seem like thats how its gonna be viewed. I mean to me idk I guess it was just an idea of a shirt or pin etc saying hey im bipolar and you know im not ashamed but in less words...idk if youve noticed but im extremely like anxiety riddled and so worried of being seen as what i despise and that..like worried my designs or words might be misinterpreted or that i might have like a dark humor post or something and maybe it is abit too on the nose or that people might be upset about it or so on. I dont know because no one can police how someone copes with their illness but it is different when that person it putting it out there for sale on pins and stuff you know? Oh btw I am going to be making pins and magnets and other stuff. I am currently working on deciding if i do it through Teepublic/Redbubble or if I use this local manafacturer I found in Leeds (im from good old britland lmfao or brexshitland) Which might be more costly because Idk that i’d be able to afford to bulk buy the products..i mean I could always do like a uhh thing where whats it called where you have a campaign and you set a limit/target so you say once i reach 100 sales i’ll buy the product and ship it out kinda thing? But idk because i mean what if it takes literally a year to reach 100 sales and people dont want to wait that long. So im not sure...i mean I could do a gofundme maybe but idk how that works..or how to set it up. I really want to focus on my Mental health blog and socials and that combines with my poetry as much of my poetry is mental health related and so recovery related too. So my poetry is less of something i really need to worry about maintaining because i write when i want to when i get inspired or when I need to vent to keep my mental health in check. So i just do it off the cuff as and when and post it to my poetry tumblr. I have over 500 pieces stock piled that I just need to schedule to my WordPress site. So thats not an issue. So I guess right now I need to work out where to focus iike Mental Health stuff or vegan designs for my Rb or what I could do is just dedicate a day a week to the vegan designs on redbubble as its not very time consuming to create the designs. And then I can upload them like as and when maybe just spend an hour a day uploading designs and making a new instagram post and sharing that on facebook and here. So then I have 6 days minus an hour a day to work on my mental health stuff which is my main focus and passion tbh. I guess ive been delaying it because ive been strugglign so much lately ive felt like a fraud or felt like i’d be a fraud preaching happiness and recovery and talking about things to help yourself during depressive episodes etc when i was just mooching around watching tv and just feeling blah...you know? I just..I dont know where to start with the mental health stuff and im so afraid of failing and fucking up or being judged and people thinking i suck or like recently i got accused of faking my mental illnesses from a guy in a UK businesses networking group..he sent me a tirade of hate and how he was gonna shame me for being a fake and claimed he had borderline PD and bipolar too and how hes learnt most people fake it and take advantage of the system put in place to help people really mentally ill luckily the admins removed him from the group..but its just..it really got to me you know. My biggest thing is being told im faking it because so many people think borderlines fake their mood shifts because we change happy to suicidal in seconds or at least i do sometimes at my worst..its just hard..i get it can seem attention seeking because we over react to minor issues and arguments but thats literally the definition of our disorder. we are emotionally unstable and we think and like evrything to us is in extremes i love to the max i get angry over reactive to the max i ahve extreme fears of abandonment triggered by slight changes in my relationships w/ people things others might not even pick up on.. idk i got a lot to say and dont know where to start! haha but thank you I will definitely look more into creating mental health based merchandise..

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Wow Hi I can't spell for shit but I was wondering if you could draw some more KamiSero? Your art style is really beautiful and there are not much KamiSero art >•

Awww thank you!!! And in the future I might, yeah! Right now I’m a bit swamped by the zine things and using the time I take away from it to draw low effort stuff or my main ships so I can’t promise it’ll happen soon, but I still like the ship lots so !!! might happen!!

Anon said:Hey thanks for that last art I know you're probably just staying on model and it doesn't really mean anything but it felt really good to see a character with my body type for once so thank you

Anon the pleasure was all mine! Miruko’s body type is beautiful to look at and a pleasure to draw, and if my indulging myself could make you happy then that makes it even better spent time!!

Anon said:I love you. That is all. Carry on.

Thank you!! I love you too!!!!!

Anon said:that drawing of hawks blessed me and my children and the children of my children, i feel the salvation in my bones, i've been purified

I dunno which one specifically you’re talking about, but thank you!!!! ;^;

Anon said:I just wanna say I love Baku I’m goods! Peace

Hell yeah anon love that boy!! Smother him in love!!!! Give him all the affection his heart can take and then more!!!!!

Anon said:This is from the anon asking about todoraka and iideku fusions, I just got far enough to find them, sorry for bothering you earlier!

Not a bother at all, don’t worry about it!!! And thank you for liking my designs enough to ask about them!!!!

Anon said:Hey!! I love your art so so so much and i was wondering if you could get in some mina and bakugo friendship content bc they're just,,, so underrated as friends and I love them

Ahhhhhhh the Baku // Mina friendship debate, nice, hadn’t been around on this blog for a while - you know, the reason why there isn’t much content and their friendship is somewhat underrated (unless we’re talking about full squad content, there’s a lot of baku and mina there) is that, going only by canon, they... aren’t friends. Of course Mina’s part of the squad, but she is more in virtue of the fact that she’s besties with Kaminari and Sero and has her backstory relationship with Kirishima, than because she has had any significant interactions with Bakugou (a bit like Jirou’s a member of the squad through Sero and Kaminari and Bakugou even if she’s got no relationship with Kirishima at all, all in all) - I, personally, like to think they could be great friends, you know? But if we’re talking canon I can count the times they interacted on the fingers of one hand (the only serious one being during the sports fest, which Mina herself commented as Bakugou picking her only cause of her acid being a good strategy against Todoroki’s ice)

I know this is sort of a digression from your question, but, as you obviously noticed since you sent me this question, lately whenever I have focused on Bakugou’s friendships in my drawings Mina hasn’t been there, and people have been more or less aggressively pointing it out to me, like I was doing a disservice to a canon friendship by not portraying it - when in truth the relationship in question has nearly no canon basis at all. So I just wanna say, from the bottom of my heart and honestly, I’m sorry if my liking to delve into and focus on Bakugou’s canon friendships makes you sad, but if the focus of a drawing or a set of drawings is supposed to be Bakugou and the relationships Horikoshi gifted him, then Mina’s most probably not gonna be there (for now, I’m still hoping Hori will add her to his growing list of canon friends soon *crosses fingers*)

Either way this has nearly nothing to do with your question and it wasn’t even really directed at you specifically, I just used the chance to address something that was bothering me a bit - THAT SAID! I do have something I mean to draw that’s gonna be focused on Bakugou and include Mina! It might not be exactly what you’re looking for, but I hope you’ll like it anyway, at least a tiny little bit! ;^;

Anon said:I loved your Have a Nice day comic. It really gave me a nice day. It’s totally cute I can imagine them living together and sing this every morning Love your art xoxoxo

Ahhhh thank you so much!!!! I’m super glad you liked it!!!!!!!!!

Anon said:Bro I just wanted to thank you! Becuase of your amazing art on boku no hero academia. It got me intrested in checking it out. And let me tell you, I love this show sooo much,even if its getting really intense right now. So its all thanks to you that I even started watching it.Its even more amazing becuase I get to admire your stunning work base on it.Thank You!!!!! 💕💕💕💕

HECK I’m so glad you checked it out and ended up liking it!!!! I hope you’ll keep on enjoying it from now on too, anon!!!!!!!!

Anon said:Hey fran! I love your art style so much!! Will we ever see more of the Bakushima neighbor’s cat au?

I KEEP ON PROCRASTINATING ON THAT ONE!!! I DON’T EVEN KNOW WHY!!!! It’s in the projects but I never!!! sit down!!!! to draw it!!!!! So I wanna say yes, because that’s the plan! But when I’m being honest I’m not so sure anon orz

Anon said:Okay but like.... hawks is hot right?? Its not just me??

Given the reaction the whole fandom has had to him, I’m pretty sure it’s not just you anon hahaha

Anon said:AAAAAA I BOUGHT A STICKER FROM YOUR REDBUBBLE ACCOUNT AND IT ARRIVED TODAY AND I LOVE IT!!!!!!

I’M SUPER GLAD TO HEAR THAT!!!! THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BUYING!!!!!!!

Anon said:Could you possibly draw more of the Deku + Kirishima fusion?

I... dunno? If I ever feel in the mood to play around with that AU again? But to be honest if I were to draw something that isn’t just a design for it it’s probably... not gonna be about kiri and deku of all people............ so I can’t promise anything, sorry!

Anon said:Hi! I know you haven’t really touched the fusions au in a while but please consider: miritama fusion

I have considered it! It’s the first one I’m gonna draw if I’ll ever feel like going back on the fusions!

Anon said:Let kirishima touch the butty

I’m 100% sure Bakugou lets him touch anything he wants, but if you want depictions of that this blog is not the right place to ask, anon hahaha

Anon said:First off, you draw the greatest art/headcanons for KiriBaku I've ever seen! Secondly, I found it funny since Bakugou is almost exactly like his mom, and since she got with Bakugou's dad by aggressively hitting on him, what if there was a scenario where Bakugou did that to Kirishima? Idk, I just thought it would be funny.

I actually have a couple of comics based on that concept!! Somewhere... in my bakushima tag............ I’ll def draw more on the same line in the future, tho!

Anon said:I know you posted your batteryacid (kamimina) picture a while ago but I just saw it and I'm sobbing I love it!

YO that makes me super happy, thank you!!!! I love that ship so much, it’s nice to know you liked the little thing I drew for it!!!!!!!!!!

Anon said:hi, i just binge watched bnha for the first time and now that i understand all your comics i fucking love them, i'm in love, i love bakugou, i love them all, i love your art

And I love YOU to be hecking honest!!!! Thank you for loving my boy, anon!!!!

Anon said:i just want kirishima to meet bakugou’s family one time in the show and his mother is probably gonna wanna make him her second son and bakugous LOSING IT

I DO hope that’s gonna happen in the manga canon sooner or later, but meanwhile Kirishima met Mitsuki in one of the novels! She’d been taken hostage by a villain, and Bakugou yelled at her for it, and she yelled right back at him like she wasn’t in the hands of a villain right then, and Kirishima said “as expected from Bakugou’s mom” and Bakugou said “don’t admire her!” or something on that line - I’d give you a link if I knew how I tagged it when I reblogged it, but I’m sure if you dig a bit around you can find it! Maybe on @aitaikimochi‘s blog, they translated a lot of kiribaku novel moments!

Anon said:im supposing that you do, but why do you think you like bakugou so much? personally i just like the angry scowl-y but fluffy characters haha and really hes so!! cute!!! and cool!!! really!!!!! hes so good at so many things but he sucks so badly ay feelings its so!! endearing!!!! apart from this i meant to praise you and your work but i ended up screaming about bakugou hahaha. i love him too muchasgshdjl

Oh heck anon, you really don’t wanna get into this, if I started talking about why I love Bakugou as much as I do I’d probably end up saying a 10k worth of words hah I love everything about him, everything he is and everything he has the potential to be, everything he’s changed about himself and every step he’s taken along the way to be who he is right now. I love his personality and I love how strong he is, I love how hard he works, I love how angry he is and how honest and direct and genuine in everything he does he is. I love the way he interacts with people, I love his expressions SO MUCH, I love his habit of speaking in hyperboles and I love how he’s a fast thinker and how he has to go back and walk through every step he skipped when he explains things to people. I love that he presents himself as a genius when actually he just pours everything he has in being the best at everything he tries doing, I love that he’s autocritical and that he cares and that he admits when he’s wrong and that he cries, I love the fact that he cries a lot. I love that he’s set on his path and that he takes everything life throws at him and keeps walking head up and square shoulders, and also I love his eyes and his hero costume and the fact that he wants to be intimidating and yells DIE at inanimate objects and enjoys hiking in his spare time and that he calls people nerd like he isn’t one himself I just. Love him. So damn much.

Anon said:Franeriiiiii~ I see that you're trying new techniques on your arts! Very nice, I enjoy watching you come up with new clothing and whatnot. I also see that the painting is a bit different, more detailed. Just dropping by to let you know I see your efforts ❤ keep on exploring! Maybe you'll discover that you can do what you couldn't in the past. As always, have a good day and much love \0/

SOB thank you SO MUCH, anon!!!!!

Anon said:Hey Fran, how are you? I was wondering if you have any tips on how to know where to place the shadows in a drawing? I'm still a beginner and this is the hardest part for me... And I love your art very much!! You're amazing, thank you for sharing your talent with us!

God, I would love to give you a hand there but to be fair I have zero clue what I’m doing when shading, anon ;-; I go a lot about it following more gut feeling and what looks right, than any actual tecnique (which probably shows to people who have a deeper understanding of it than I do orz) the best I can tell you to do is to try to draw from real life, but really this is such a hard question for me to answer when I myself need to work more on it ;^; I’m so sorry!

Anon said:Bakushima alternative ship name: POPROCKS

A GREAT NAME I’m nearly sure I read a fic called that once!

Anon said:I just wanted to thank you for sharing your amazing work for us. You literaly made my day

AHHHHHHH THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!

Anon said:I just finished going through your kiribaku tag and I honestly don't know if I'm feeling fulfilled for all of it or empty because I just saw all of it daNG YOUR STYLE JUST FUCKING FITs KIRIBAKU SO MUCH I REALLY LOVE YOUR KRBK CONTENT AND THE KIDS FUUUUUUUKCKCKCKK. I'm really, really looking forward for more of your art but for now I gotta go through all your other content as well. Ps. Have I mentioned that I fucking love how you draw feet?????

OH MAN that’s such a nice thing to hear, that my style fits them!!! My style changed so much since I started drawing them that they probably influenced it to begin with, but I’m happy you like how it looks on them nonetheless!!! thank you so so much for the kind words and for taking the time to go through the whole tag!!!

Anon said:Hi! I’m an artist and i’ve been trying to draw boy teens for a while now but i cant seem to make them have muscles without making them look like sorta adults. Any tips? I like how you draw them

I dunno how qualified I am to answer this question since I’m still playing around with my style trying to work that out, but most of what I keep an eye out for are proportions and also how round I make the traits, I guess? The rounder the younger, as far as my art style goes - I also make the eyes bigger the younger my character is supposed to be, but that probably only works if you don’t mind your style not being all that realistic hahaha

Anon said:I want to go through and the like every single one of your posts but I feel like that's a little bit excessive. Since I can't do that, I would like to tell you how amazing you are and how even when I'm having a bad day your art always makes me smile. I hope you're having a lovely day!

Thank you so so much for this ask, anon!!!!!! I hope you’re having a wonderful day/week/month too!!!

Anon said:New hawk boy lookin like a snack.

I would lie if I said the first thing I thought when I read this ask was “I guess we’re talking chicken wings”, tbh

Anon said:Fran, I love your sketch of Yuuto!! :3 Do you ship anyone from yowapeda?

Thank you!!! And I guess I ship more or less anything with a vague canon basis? Which is, like, a whole damn lot of things thank you Watanabe for your gay biking children - I’m not particularly invested into anything at the moment, tho!

Anon said:Whenever I'm having a shitty day, I come back to your blog and scroll through it, the way you draw krbk is really sweet and gives me the warmth I need when I feel down. Thank you for sharing your beautiful art, you're amazing.

Sob thank you so much, oh my god! This is such a nice ask to get, I’m glad I can help you feel a lil bit better, anon ;^;

Anon said:Fran your iida is real real cute and I'm love

THANK YOU! I think he’s way less square than he’s supposed to be... I’m working on that lol

Anon said:KIRI'S PINEAPPLE HAIR??? SAVED ME. MY HEART IS SAVED. SOUL?? SAVED. LIFE??? SAVED.

I’M SO HAPPY YOU LIKED THAT!!!!!

Anon said:that drawing of hawks ended my life oh my goddddd he's bEAUTIFUL

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anon said:Tbh I thought of Hawk teaching Tokoyami how to fly with his quirk like a bird would, but birds just fricken shove their kids out of the nest.

At this point I wouldn’t even put that past Hawks, t b h

Anon said:I love all your art and I only recently discovered all of your old kirikamibaku stuff and was wondering if you'd consider drawing it again?

YEP! Not in the near future tho, as explained in the answer to the first ask up here!

Anon said:For your fusion au do you have any of the dances figured out yet?

Only the KiriBaku one, which is just hand holding - the AU was never meant to be more than just the designs tho, so I can’t say I spent too long on this sorta things!

Anon said:Your art is so nice and beautiful that you could probably draw any two characters together and say it's a ship and I would just accept it without question like "You right omg how have I not noticed this befORE IT'S GENIUS" and it could literally even be two rocks. Not even characters. Just rocks. Bless you

THANK YOU this is!!!!!!!! such a cool feeling omg so much power to have.......... I’m gonna need to use it wisely (I say, but the first thing I thought when I read the two rocks thing was “I did draw Kiri and Tetsu in the past!” so I guess wise isn’t a thing I am at all lol)

Anon said:I’m sure you get asked this a lot but is it okay if I post some art of yours on amino? (With credits to you of course)

Nope, sorry! I don’t allow reposts with or without credit, please don’t repost my stuff - if you really wanna share you can just drop a link to the original post~

Anon said:Can I repost your art in my Instagram page with credit please ?

Anon said:Can i repost your art with credit ?

Again, sorry but I’d prefer it if you did not do that!

Anon said:Hello! Opinions on iida x deku x todoroki? I love ur art sm and ur latest thing(which inspired this ask haha) hope ur having a nice day!

Love it!!! It’s one of my main ot3s in bnha!!!! And thank you!!!!!!!!!

Anon said:Can you draw more Bakugo with glasses?? I love my goth/jock/nerd son. (I also love your art btw :'D💕)

Thank you!!! And I can! And most probably will!!! Can’t say how soon that’s gonna be, tho!

Anon said:was the art of bakugou doing kirishima's hand pose/stance based off of the official card game or was that a super happy coincidence? :'D

Seeing as I posted the comic weeks before the card came out, I’d say it was a coincidence haha that said! In the card Bakugou isn’t actually doing Kiri’s pose! He’s doing his own, which is adorably similar to Kirishima’s - one closed hand against an open palm as he lats out an explosion, you see him take the stance as he gets ready to fight now and again in the manga and anime!

Anon said:Psst, you got that Bakukamikiri?

Sadly, not at the moment :( as I said, maybe in the future~

Anon said:I love your art more than anything and your Kiribaku keeps me alive, especially now it's finals week. Also your Kaminari is a beautiful boy who deserves all my love. I have to ask for more of him. I love you omg!!!! Please never stop drawing! ❤️❤️❤️❤️

More Kaminari is coming your way! Definitely! Since I draw him a lot all things considered and you therefor you don’t really need to ask to see more of him haha

#fran answers #used my free day which i gave to myself as an undeserved gift to answer some asks finally #so many!!! why do i always do this #i might have missed a couple #im sure i did miss a couple #i have vague recollection of reading asks i did not answer in here #HMMMMM #sorry if it was your ask pls feel free to send it again if i missed it!#anonymous

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